Diablo 2 Ultimate Poison Necromancer Guide (old)

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  • @balazskiss8134
    @balazskiss8134 Před 9 lety +5

    I thnik that the best golem for pvm is the IRON golem. Make it of a low/any insight so your golem will get the meditation aura, solving any mana problem. It shouldn't die with tele/merc/summons/cta etc. And even if it dies, its dirt cheep to remake, you can use any normal polarm. Damage doesn' t matter, you need the golem only for the aura, not for damage.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 9 lety

      Balázs Kiss Mana problems is non-exsisenting bar mana burns on this build. Teleporting maybe not. I play on NL so even a junk insight is hard to get, if it did die :) Hard = not exspensive, just not many sales going around.

  • @IzludeTingel
    @IzludeTingel Před 7 lety +2

    OMG!! I didn't expect poison nec to be that sick! I've been doing it for along time in regular D2, just recently got expansion though. Wow, gotta start hunting these items down...

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 7 lety

      We'll a lot of builds are strong with such a gear level :) More look into what classes/builds you enjoy and have fun with.

  • @zandiskoul
    @zandiskoul Před 8 lety +1

    sick video, i respec outta bone and like this style of play even without any charms and missing gear.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety

      yep, works fine as untwinked due to CE.

  • @JeebusSc
    @JeebusSc Před 8 lety +3

    This is the setup a few of my friends go, we play on a private server (reddit.com/r/slashdiablo)
    2-3/20fcr Circlet (2x 5/5'd)
    Enigma
    Dweb (5/5'd)
    3PnB Darkforce (5/5'd) / Spirit Mon
    Trang Gloves
    Arach
    2x 10 Fcr Rings
    2/10-15 Fcr Amulet
    Treks/Aldurs/Etc
    Merc (Gear varies depending on wealth in current ladder):
    Infinity or EbotD
    Fort or Treach
    Andy/Vgaze or Cham'd Gface
    Max P Nova + Synergies + CE (81)
    1 Point Bone Armor + Wall (2)
    1 Point Iron Golem + Summon Resist (5)
    1 Point Lower Res + Amp (7-22)(Rest into either Lower Res or Amp depending on preference, i put the rest in amp for cows)

    • @wanashthegash
      @wanashthegash Před 8 lety

      Why play on private the games costs 9 euros ? ;P

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety

      We'll availability, not all of his friends might wanna pay....money is money imo.

    • @JeebusSc
      @JeebusSc Před 8 lety +2

      Too many Bots/Dupes on B.net. I like the economy our small community has (No RMT/D2jsp), just trading item for other items.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety

      thats cool :)

  • @marcgg1227
    @marcgg1227 Před 5 lety

    Cta warscepter for style
    Insight golem
    Merc might aura with forti, vampire gaze and any good weapon..obidience, botd, infy if want better CE, pride if want scellies
    Or act5 with lw cb for style

  • @Djuntas
    @Djuntas  Před 7 lety

    czcams.com/video/A3NoDCj9lWc/video.html&ab_channel=DjuntasGaming New version of this old build is done :) Sorry again for the pooere quality on this older upload.

  • @PontusUlfvensjo
    @PontusUlfvensjo Před 9 lety +10

    Mate, just a heads up - the Poison Nova that your mercenary have a % to cast due to him wearing Andariel's Face, will override yours if he does cast it. Might be a good idea to get something else for him.

    • @Tyjohnable
      @Tyjohnable Před 8 lety +1

      +Pontus Ulfvensjö
      Yes but it only has a 2 sec duration and yours will also override his.

    • @SomeRandomCanuck
      @SomeRandomCanuck Před 7 lety

      It won't.

  • @Irmarinen
    @Irmarinen Před 7 lety +3

    TBH, i don't think that build is the best one for veno, it is more like it's CE necro w/ Summons and veno as support dmg. I prefer Bramble runeword, DWeb+PN/Blackbog+PD,invest 80 points in poison skills and LR, clay golem a few, and CE the rest, you can get in PE about 50k dmg, and 11-12 k in PN. Plows through everything in the game like holly water through demons, except one and only weakness - Uber Andariel - Lilith.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 7 lety +1

      It's all about balance. Maybe I could tweak some things nowadays, bit old guide, but I think CE dmg is to important.

    • @Irmarinen
      @Irmarinen Před 7 lety

      CE has fixed dmg, only range changes, so a few points are just enough in my opinion; you can allways invest rest of those pionts somewhere else, but, there is playstyle for everyone, so i will not judge anymore :) GJ on that one

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 7 lety

      Yea, might have some skils a bit odd, old guide, now days my necro is summon, something I found to be more versatile, but maybe not as fun ^^ That guide however is 100% current, no changes.

  • @Djuntas
    @Djuntas  Před 9 lety

    Pontus@ That an excellent point, just hard to know about any other leech helms thats as good as it ;(

  • @jewelersofwhale
    @jewelersofwhale Před 7 lety +1

    U should get 1 skill on revive, they work as magic-immunity shield.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 7 lety

      Yea, bit of a old guide by now. Things here and there could maybe be better :) Not to mention the resolution hehe!

  • @CobaltBomber
    @CobaltBomber Před 8 lety +4

    i would personally swap out for bramble chest, and trangs gloves, belt, and offhand

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety

      +CobaltBomber cant remember the reason, but i looked it up, and decided against trang. Bramble just aint worth it, unless you maybe also use a lot of summon's. Teleport is just to good :( especially if you get FCR like mine.

    • @Commandos12
      @Commandos12 Před 8 lety

      +DjuntasGaming u do extra poison dmg with bramble. the thorn aura is just a bonus. also socket shako+poison facet gem is better.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety

      well duh yea 40-50% poison is OK, but it's nothing amazing. Thorn aura is great if you keep a large summon pack's trough. I use my helm over shako due to FCR breakpoint and overall better stats than shako - You dont need all the survival stats that shako gives anyway....Teleport is just to important, especially when you also maybe want to use summon to re-position them faster.

    • @Commandos12
      @Commandos12 Před 8 lety +2

      +DjuntasGaming teleport is indeed nice but the summons you make are just there to be your wall so monsters doesnt bother you (hense i would not pick up fire golem and 2nd point in lower resist and get revive and skele mage instead). your summons will follow you just fine on foot. if the worst case happens. buy a vender staff with teleport charges and use that to move around.
      also I can't really understand why you would want to have the FCR break point since poison dmg doesnt stack, you casting poison nova multiple times on already affected monster doesnt really do much other than refresh dot timer?
      I would think you reviving monsters with crushing blow is better than investing in bonespear or even bone spirits.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety

      We'll I think over all I have gotten to used to have a fast teleport on my "spell-caster" builds :/ Its really just to good for general PVM play, and obviously 100% needed in PvP....dont do pvp, but still xD I do agree with the over all not much focus on summons parts...I also rarely bother with summons since corpse explosion I tend to spam to much so no corpses.

  • @dk4002
    @dk4002 Před 8 lety +1

    i have a similar character except i use stormshield , coa and hoto.. i think the damage and fcr is good enough..so i went with more damage reduction and fhr on the helm and shield

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety

      That's a nice mix :) Sadly DR dosen't work in PvM, but the rest is solid. Trough I'd say homunculus is always the better shield, it can also easy max-block

  • @nilsipilsiable
    @nilsipilsiable Před 8 lety +2

    Why don't you use bramble and the TO-Shield and -belt? I think the damage output is a bit higher.
    With 9 skillers, my nova does 15k damage, plus -90 enemy's poison.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety

      +Nilsi Pilsi Teleport is very usefull (sadly) on pet-classes to re-arrange stuff. Also now that I bothered get some FCR for BP, its quit nice for speed. Afaik trang belt and shield wasent better, but long time since i looked it up while building char.

  • @RastafaryxX
    @RastafaryxX Před 7 lety +2

    I'll be back for the next reset :)

  • @tobiasdamaris
    @tobiasdamaris Před 7 lety +1

    bramble + trangs shield > enigma + homun

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 7 lety

      I will have a video for a updated build of it out soon :) It will defiantly improve this old one.

  • @diegogonzalesmendoza9781

    I'm using him for pit runs at 7 players, he Is so dam strong and fast

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 5 lety

      I need to remake the build :P

  • @daviddawdy3023
    @daviddawdy3023 Před 8 lety

    Do you think it's possible to make Straight bone Necro, with all maxed synergies? Also does Lower Resist amp bone magic at all? Not sure it can survive alone in hell, may have to use corpse explosion as AoE back up. I personally like a good long distance corpse explosion, nothing like 13+ yards of explosion lol.
    Here's an interesting think i found out, a friend of mine says he knows you because i talk to him about your builds alot. Do you know Jan Herder? Lives in the Netherlands.
    Anyways, thanks again,
    David

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety

      +david dawdy Bone necro is horrible for PvM, even with the best gear. Just dont. ok for pvp trough.

    • @donnyhooks6970
      @donnyhooks6970 Před 8 lety

      Pure bone spear + synergies with +1 into golem and skelly's will melt anything in hell, Yes you need some gear but you can cheap-skate that... 2X spirits , Shako or any +1 helm - Lore, Smoke or stone armor until you can afford a Enigma ' the one item you NEED ' , Marrow boots or waterwalks, rings and amulet can be Fcr + life & res, Crafted amulet is good too and super cheap. String of ears for belt. Insight merc with stone armor and any helm. My current ladder necro can do Andy \ Meph \ Diablo and baal just as fast as my Hdin, Don't let people tell you a bone necro can't PvM it's just a flat out lie.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety

      the spec is bad compared to summon or poison, that its. I commented about this so much lately :p meh....always compare your own builds to other - ofcourse it can do hell...any build can, but how good is another story.

    • @donnyhooks6970
      @donnyhooks6970 Před 8 lety

      DjuntasGaming Comparing Nova to BS, You only need a white wand ' io dol ' and a spirit shield, or dual spirits to farm meph \ diablo on hell, To farm meph and diablo on hell with a Nova necro it takes entirely to much gear to even think about........Summoners can't farm diablo or meph till they have enigma \ dual spirits and more mitigation on gear, BS builds max out bone shield so we don't need the mitigation, It is also fairly easy to find a base wand with +1 revive for BS making it free to have 7-10 revives. BS necro's are cheaper and far more effective than Nova or summoner builds sorry but your information is way off, Stop misleading people.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety

      :[ See my video about this topic, actually made a video just for this.
      Even with insane 2.000 FG gear bone is never gonna be better than poison or summon just due to low amount of raw damage.
      All build's relies on corpse explosion obviously, but summoner has high amount of solo capabilities/survival (It can do ubbers etc) and poison has some of the easiest spammable AOE that fills up your screen with high damage combined with lower resist.
      Bone is fine for PvP, but...again get this word: COMPARED TO, the other 2 choices talking best gear possible w/e it just ain't better sadly.
      Im not misleading, I might be wrong sometimes, but sure don't lie about this :P Anyway you need to have played summon or poison nova....or just google and you'll find that Im by far not the only one saying just this :)
      Anyway I think I'm a end-game player, where you might more focus on fresh ladder, bone might be strong early on for that 1 kill fast>corpse explosion spame style. That it does good.

  • @Dominik40301
    @Dominik40301 Před 7 lety +5

    lol my poison nova is lvl 40 and has more dmg than this lvl 46- my is 11826 max dmg, Bramble runeword op

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 7 lety

      Its a OK choice, but its never gonna find any use over enigma. On top of that poison nova ain't even your main damage ability...corpse explosion is just too good.

    • @Dominik40301
      @Dominik40301 Před 7 lety

      I would like to see how you kill act and pandemonium quest bosses with corpse explosion

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 7 lety

      You don't. No poison damage will do much ever. You rely on summon's and your merc that of course uses infinity for that nice CB :)
      Poison necro aint meant for boss kill speeds, let that be done by sorc's or melee classes that can stack CB.

    • @FarnhamTheDrunk1
      @FarnhamTheDrunk1 Před 7 lety

      i play venomancer for over 10 years now, and i NEVER have used CE as a main dmg source. it works TOO WELL with ONLY nova... and u NEED summons when u play with only nova.... there are MAAAANY ways to play a veno, this is just one of them

    • @cerberus8867
      @cerberus8867 Před 7 lety

      PNova with Dweb is actually powerful as fuck.. Djuntas you should try it before you judge it's op, and never uses CE

  • @estandarteestandarte4860

    I have a question... do you have any suggestion on how to deal with hell monsters with immunity to poison? i tried using lower resist to remove the immunity but my nova doesnt deal that much of damage even after removing the immunity. I'm really having a hard time killing those guys

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 7 lety

      you simply can't unless immunity aint broken. Rely on summons and merc then spam CE instead. CE is so OP anyway.

    • @estandarteestandarte4860
      @estandarteestandarte4860 Před 7 lety

      i'm around lvl 70 right now and i maxed out all poison spells but my summons are low levels. Should i max my skeletons and sk mastery?

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 7 lety

      Nah, just rely on revive, get a good merc and spam CE

    • @tobiasdamaris
      @tobiasdamaris Před 7 lety

      use amplify damage and corpse explosion... it works for me

  • @danielfurr7356
    @danielfurr7356 Před 8 lety

    So do you consider this to be stronger than your other necro guide?

  • @punkerboys
    @punkerboys Před 7 lety

    best poison build for pvp is Trang oul full FRW build

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 7 lety

      Probably, but meeh, teleport is still needed for the most part, but more raw damage, maybe even bramble has it place i guess.

  • @Tyjohnable
    @Tyjohnable Před 8 lety

    You could upgrade your boots for about 75 more defense.
    You seem to be pretty rich so why not?

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety

      +Tyjohnable True that! Upped WW is nice, tough about it back then, just kinda forgot about it.

    • @Tyjohnable
      @Tyjohnable Před 8 lety +1

      Also 1 point in revive is nice for bosses.
      Using council members and balrogs on Baal kills him pretty fast with lower resists and the ability to teleport on his head.
      With your huge pluses to skills it would only be a two point investment (1 for skell mage).

    • @Tyjohnable
      @Tyjohnable Před 8 lety +2

      The only problem with that is how much mana it takes but mana potions drop everywhere and you could also just switch to Insight.
      In fact Insight is so overpowered and cheep that I make iron golems with it lol.
      Witch would also enable you to teleport endlessly.

  • @SuperZakaru
    @SuperZakaru Před 7 lety

    Obedience is not anywhere near the same price as a cheap infinity... maybe same price as a insight you mean.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 7 lety

      We'll on ladder its cheap thats is, maybe still costly on non-ladder, only bought 1 on NL so not sure :)

    • @SuperZakaru
      @SuperZakaru Před 7 lety +1

      There is nothing at allll cheap about infinity man ladder or non ladder.... BER MAL BER IST.... like how is a Ko and Fal and Hel rune even close to the same price as infinity? Ko Hel Fal arent even close to a Mal rune never mind Ist or 2 Ber lol.. I dont think you have played enough of the game on a the beginning of ladders to understand the prices.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 7 lety

      Oh, we misunderstood each other. Yea infinity is a lot more costly :) I read wrong. Infinity, even a basic one is about 10-15 HRs on non-ladder, or around 8-10 FG on JSP EU NL.

  • @trubi16
    @trubi16 Před 9 lety +1

    How good is poison necro at low level ? And I want to play him without gear. So its can be good like a sorc or wind druid ? or its really useless without gear ?

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 9 lety

      trubi16 Its pretty good cause of corpse explosion. But dmg will be low without alot off +skils.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 9 lety

      I have never used that programe, sorry. I only play online.

    • @crypticmcnuggets754
      @crypticmcnuggets754 Před 8 lety

      +trubi16 How's your Necro doing?

    • @trubi16
      @trubi16 Před 8 lety

      I surrendered it :D not high

    • @ZenithSpellz
      @ZenithSpellz Před 5 lety

      At low level, I would just focus on getting enough loot to get a 1 socket wand with 2 or more buffs at low level - relying on amp. damage curse and summons til u get there.

  • @mikefrost5575
    @mikefrost5575 Před 8 lety

    My poison Necromancer is kind of good, but can't run hell that much. Is there a specific reason why?

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety

      +Mike Frost Did you see my guide? Copy the build and build up wealth for the items :)

    • @mikefrost5575
      @mikefrost5575 Před 8 lety

      XD. I wish i could afford man. I'm going to make mf Sorc so that I can get those Items!!!

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety

      See my wealth guide. It's surprisingly easy :)

    • @mikefrost5575
      @mikefrost5575 Před 8 lety

      Lol. I see all your videos dude. Even the low budget smiter build. "The worst damn armor I could find with two sockets!" Dude, you're the best, and I always look for the next one to some out. Remember, you don't have to be over the top with that untwinked sorc. I think that at least 3 res small charms (about 4-5) and 21 life med charms (about 7-8) should help out, but not too much. I don't really know, though, but I agree. Your res on that sorc is horrifying!

  • @Leny1777
    @Leny1777 Před 8 lety

    I haven't played this game since 2008, I lost all of my high level characters. Me and my friend Dchaps are playing together, you want to play with us in the future? I will subb.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety

      +Classic Video Games 1777 Havent quit played Diablo 2 much lately, also only NL EU :)

  • @Devilfish6666
    @Devilfish6666 Před 5 lety

    Venomancer without Bramble?!

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 5 lety

      Of course, its a really bad chest. Enigma gives you you teleport and great stats.

    • @Devilfish6666
      @Devilfish6666 Před 5 lety

      ​@@Djuntas Yeah...+50% dmg is bad alright... Enigma is only ur choice when you have the dmg without Bramble to one shot everything and anything in Hell anyway which isn't the case for ppl that don't have an inventory full of skillers, torch and anni. Also you can use Naj staff and switch if you wanna tele to get somewhere quickly or even an amu with tele charges.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 5 lety

      You do you, but I would never use Bramble :) Enigma also has really good stats Bramble lacks.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 5 lety

      @@Devilfish6666 On a budget its fine I guess, but see the title on the video...Ultimate :P Also if you want to, this video is outdated so you should see my updated one.

    • @Devilfish6666
      @Devilfish6666 Před 5 lety

      @@Djuntas And whats your definition of ultimate? Certainly not maximum dmg, since that includes Bramble and Trang off hand and belt(-25% poison resistance from 3 trang parts). Its not tankiest either since that would probably take CoH over Enigma. Yes its mobile but you can achieve the same mobility with Naj Staff or a teleport amu and still achieve more dmg with Bramble. What is the ultimateness that you talk about? Enigma is pure convenience if you dont wanna switch weapons....

  • @ThatFightingInfo
    @ThatFightingInfo Před 8 lety

    ty ty

  • @piona1119
    @piona1119 Před 6 lety

    46k poison dagger wow

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 6 lety

      46k is nothing for those skills :) But its also very weak even if it did say 1 million dmg I figure.

  • @ttfd
    @ttfd Před 8 lety

    dude, this much skiller charms is not a regular build, its freaking expensive... why u no cheap poison necro?

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety

      Skiller are fairly cheap. This is not a budget guide anyway. If you need wealth see my wealth guide, its really not to hard to get this stuff.

    • @ttfd
      @ttfd Před 8 lety

      DjuntasGaming well, im only playing single pvm, therefore it looks xp to me...

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety

      ah thats fine :) yea self-found offline is something very else. I only play online NL

    • @ttfd
      @ttfd Před 8 lety

      DjuntasGaming do you think you can come up with offline build, which can solo hell on /p8 ? psn necro

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 8 lety +1

      same build, just use other items...rely on CE more.

  • @majupiju2347
    @majupiju2347 Před 7 lety

    nice build ;D

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 7 lety

      Thanks :) Might do a more updated build for it once.

  • @Andreasws24
    @Andreasws24 Před 7 lety

    With max block you don't need much life. Respec and put 50-150 more in energy.
    Relying on mana pots is pretty pathetic with that kind of gear.

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 7 lety

      Dunno if I had to rely on mana :) Might re-do my poison nova necro soon, bit of a old guide by now.

  • @yibrahimovic569
    @yibrahimovic569 Před 4 lety

    should invest in a better micro, its so annoying

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 4 lety

      microphone or? Micro could also mean...well, RTS term :) Anyway yes my old headset wasn't very good, you should see my updated 3-parts trangoul nova guide instead, this one is old now.

    • @yibrahimovic569
      @yibrahimovic569 Před 4 lety

      @@Djuntas yes I mean your microphone ok ill check it out!

  • @derekwolf9788
    @derekwolf9788 Před 7 lety +1

    Play D3 already. That game is on like patch 1.5? Super convoluted. The best days are behind it. When you could sell accounts for $250. 1.08. Noobss

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 7 lety

      huh :P? Dont think I understand your comment. I can tell you I have clocked about 1k hour in Diablo 3 through. I mostly played on launch, beating game before any nerfs was a ton of fun, and later flipping gold on AH in 1.8. ROS was also OK, but been bored in 2016.

    • @falcon3205
      @falcon3205 Před 7 lety

      lol fuck D3.. fuck D3 in the bum bum.

  • @yukmoutb5885
    @yukmoutb5885 Před 7 lety

    isn't this guy the same person that said bone necros suck for pvm ? lolololol

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 7 lety

      It sure is, and that stance can change in a coming video maybe :) I posted about it in Indreks video as well. Anyway thanks for watching.

  • @dylanhunt5368
    @dylanhunt5368 Před 3 lety

    cheat gear

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 3 lety

      Cheating on online :P? Well, wish I knew how...would be fun tbh.

    • @dylanhunt5368
      @dylanhunt5368 Před 3 lety

      @@Djuntas no way u can find all that stuff by urself. thus its cheat-gear

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 3 lety

      @@dylanhunt5368 Erhm...no. This aint even good gear, its shit. You should see my newer guide :P If you play online its easy to get good gear if you trade. And yes, I know trading = botted gear and all, I know it all...no need to go there hehe, but this is very shit gear. On JSP there are people rich enough to buy my 3 online accounts and not even care about it.

  • @KidAran
    @KidAran Před 7 lety

    dude, take your fingers off your nose. its so hard to hear what u are saying

    • @Djuntas
      @Djuntas  Před 7 lety

      Bad mic back then, thats all... Try to see my dream paladin build also.

    • @KidAran
      @KidAran Před 7 lety

      ok, no worries, it was just so annoying trying to hear you