Was Buying This 2023 VW ID.4 Pro S A Mistake? 6 Month Ownership Update | US Spec Pure Gray RWD
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In this video, we’ll review all of the accessories I’ve added to our 2023 VW ID.4 Pro S and then go over our ownership experience over the past 6 months. In summary, and despite what some have said, we have quite enjoyed the ID.4 and have had an overall positive experience using electrify America on the ccs network. This Volkswagen electric SUV fits perfectly into our lifestyle. That said, it doesn’t hold a candle to our Tesla, and if we could go back and do it again knowing that the process on the tesla model y were about to tank, we would’ve gone that route instead.
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My 2023 ID4 is the most comfortable car I have ever driven. My local VW dealer (in Santa Monica) provides outstanding service, so I'm not worried about getting problems fixed.
Glad to hear it. We just did a two hour trip. With the roof box. Fully loaded cargo area. Still a buttery smooth drive (minus fussy baby in the back seat).
Congrats on the new baby!!
We are also loving our ID.4 (9 months). We did our first road trip a couple weeks ago and charging was really a non-event for us too. While the chargers may have been de-rated at times, we tend to stop for 45 minutes to an hour anyway to eat and such. It still charged plenty while we waited. 😊
Sad to hear of the service experience. Service providers can sure vary from one to another with any car for sure. We are lucky to have a great dealership near us for service. They take pride on their "It's easier here" motto.
Thanks! So many ID.4 owners have commented on my videos and reiterated that same positive experience. Love to see it. I’m satisfied with the dealer that I found. They’re on the other side of town is the only issue, but such is life, no big. Haha.
I love the baby! Thank you for a fair update 😊
I love him too! Thanks for watching. 🫶🏾
Welcome back! The pics are great!
Thanks Brian. Glad to be back!
Thanks for the fairly positive review. I have been looking at the ID4's
It’s a great car. Highly recommend. Although, the Model Y is a better all around car imo. If this is your first EV, I’d recommend going the Model Y route unless you absolutely do not want a Tesla in which case this is a great alternative.
Congrats and great to see you back! Looking forward to more EV experiences together with your growing family 😄 Roof box sounds really pragmatic for your needs.
Thanks! It works great. Fits our stroller and jogger perfectly. I was very intentional when selecting this one so that it was JUST big enough so that I can easily install and remove it on my own.
Great video! Congratulations on your baby.
Thank you! New video tomorrow.
Congrats on the family. Really liked how you fixed up your car. having the roof carrier painted to match the car was genius.
Thanks Tim! I happen to like the way it looks. Got the idea when I saw a blue Porsche Taycan GTS with a paint matched ski box last year at the Fully Charged Live auto show. Surprisingly not that expensive. Like $200 bucks.
Thanks for the update. Just hit 1 year with my ID4.
I’m guessing it hasn’t been terrible for you either?
@@BlakeCheck yeah so far pretty good. I did have to put new tires on it at 21500 miles. Fun of evs.
Fun tax. Haha
Congrats 🎉
There is something cool about this car, I have been looing for information and your video was quite informative.
We love it. Glad I could help. Let me know if you have any questions. Happy to answer
I'm in the Phoenix, AZ area too! Congrats on the baby! Keep up the great work! BTW who's your paint guy? I didn't see the link in the video
Hey! You should come to our meet ups. Join the Scottsdale Electric Vehicle Association group and the Tesla Owners and Enthusiasts group on Facebook for events. Also good call I forgot to add his info. I’ll add now.
Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉
Thanks!✌🏾
Congrats on your adorable son. Enjoy the parenting ride. It'll be tons of fun.
Thank you. Lots of fun, little sleep lol.
Great to see the newest star of Blake Check, Evan! I think the roof box was a good addition. Hopefully the VW service gets better. All in all I think the ID 4 is a nice looking EV. Time will tell how reliable it proves to be.
Yup I agree. We will see.
🎉.Anyway to remedy the interior piano black? Teetering between this and the model y. So many necessary accessory purchases with the y make me nervous.
The piano black doesn’t bother me as much as I thought it would tbh. But I’d go with the Y if I were you. Better deal at the current prices.
I enjoyed your video
Thanks for watchin, Robert!
Congratulations, dad! 🥳🥳.
Thanks Daniel!
I’ve definitely even happy with it 😁 Perfect family car ❤
And that’s all that matters really lol.
Hi. How did you wrap the front reflectors in satin black?
Thank you.
Just used some extra vinyl I had. Laid it over to reflector and cut around the edge.
Loved my 2023 Pro so far
Big improvement over previous model year. It’s too bad the old one gave the ID.4 such a poor rep.
Welcome back! Hello Evan! he's adorable! but you don't like fingerprints! Evan's in trouble.
Haha yeeeaaah I’ll have to get over that I guess huh.
I love it the video but.... why the screen protector? What would scratch the screen?
You’d be surprised. Fingernails mainly. Screen protectors for car touch screens is a common addition that most recommend. Might not seems like much but those micro scratches add up over time. Definitely worth a $10 investment.
@@BlakeCheck i will consider it, thanks!
The matte one reduces glare too if you have that issue. That’s what I use in my Tesla. I don’t notice much glare in the ID.4 though so I just went with clear, it’s cheaper by a couple bucks.
Aye bro .. Idk if you’ve done a video on it already but .. I’d like to get your thoughts on the Jaguar i-pace
Congrats on the baby ! 👶
I haven’t. I got some footage of one when I went to Fully Charged Live last year. But haven’t spent much time with it otherwise. What do you like about it?
Thanks man!
@@BlakeCheck The looks! It’s a sexy car and I’m not ashamed to say it lol
Just not sure how I feel about an EV that doesn’t have an established charging station network like Tesla.
I test drove a 2023 ID.4 a month ago, the AC sucked and wondered why. Did they tell you what they did/replaced? I’ve been considering the ID.4 or waiting for the new Tesla 3 Highland
There were not one but two hoses that were leaking, they said. That replaced those and it’s been fine since then. Really strange. Haven’t heard anyone rose say they’ve had that issue.
The drive modes also alter the AC performance for some reason. In eco mode, the AC cooling is limited. So that might be what you were encountering during your test drive.
I think you’re making the right call waiting for the model 3 tbh. Especially if you don’t NEED an SUV.
How is the fuel economy with the box and crossbars vs with just the bars, and without the crossbars?
That is a great question. I’ll need to make a video on that. For the few weeks after installing it I left it on at all times to see and it didn’t seem to make much difference but I wasn’t doing much highway driving. I’ll need to test that bc that’s where it’ll really become apparent.
Another reason I wanted it to be smaller so that I can easily remove it if we’re doing a long highway trip (which the dogs normally don’t join us for so we don’t need it for that).
There is a guy who sells plans and a kit for making a tray for being able to store some stuff in the front. I got my ID4 in June, and so far no issues. The one thing I have to tell you but I think you know already since you put that storage on top. You are going to run out of room quickly in the rear storage with kids. My kids noticed this right away, which led me to say this car is for Two people, not Four people, (they are grown now). The ID4 was to replace my Toyota Highlander which was perfect for road trips and can carry up to 8. Although we rarely had over 5 in the vehicle, usually just four. And we had plenty of room for storage. When I went to put all my beach stuff for four people into the ID4, it all didn’t fit. I do have a hitch basket I got for the Highlander so it looks like for our big trips or beach trips with 4 people I will have to use that
Thanks for sharing. Yeah it’s already getting tight with the three of us. We actually just leased it for 4 years. Alter that, hopefully there will be some affordable 3 row electric SUVs on the market. We have our eyes on the EV9 and the R1S. But the market will look very different by that time so who knows.
Well the service experience does not sound too bad, my 2023 Ioniq 5 I got rid of after 6 service visits to attempt to repair no fast DC charging issue since new, finally on the 7th visit at another service department they were able to fix it (only one time was I abe to get a loaner and I have a 80 minute ferry ride to and from to the closest Hyundai (at my cost about $50.00 each return trip), to bad too late the car is gone. My new 2023 Tesla Model Y not one issue on delivery, not one issue after 5000 miles perfect! Hope VW will treat you with better care and attention in the future as all dealers should treat their customers with kid gloves, you are the bread and butter of their business!
Noooo. I love the Ioniq 5. That’s such a bummer to hear. But glad you got into a model y. I wish we had done the same. Had we known prices were gonna drop a month after getting the iD.4, we would’ve done the same thing as you.
Don't get me wrong I still loved that Ioniq 5 and feel no animosity towards Hyundai, other than they need to get their dealer network EV trained and supportive, but happiness now is a Tesla Model Y! I still have the wonderful 2020 Kia Soul EV limited (Canadian availability only with 64KWH battery) and I traded my original 2019 Soul EV for the Ioniq which they did give me good value for, Kia / Hyundai autogroup do a fine job with their cars although my 2023 Ioniq 5 should have been caught at final factory testing of the charging system where I see Ford for example does to their F 150 Lightnings and possibly other mfg's as well. The first thing I did with my Tesla was run it for a road trip and try the super charger, call me gun shy!
Nothin like a road trip in a Tesla. It’s been a while. We’re due for a trip to the beach.
Nice review, and a very cute baby!. iD4's are great cars, and you don't have to be concerned about participating in a cult. Two years of charging at home has produced a cost of only $.02 per mile, which is only 10% of the cost of fuel for a second vehicle that averages 23 mpg. We have found that moving the rear cargo floor to the lower level provides much more efficient space and control over the items in back. Incidentally, interior volume/cargo volume/trunk volume are 130/64/30 cubic feet respectively. The Model 3 is 97/43/23 . . . which is considerably smaller. Rear seating in the Model 3 is decidedly cramped, while the iD4 is very comfortable and roomy for adults. Enjoy your car!
The iD.4 has great rear leg room considering the overall size of the car. We love it. Made pregnancy and these early infant days so much more convenient and comfortable for my wife and son. But how do those numbers compare to the Model Y, taking into account the frunk space. Much better comparison than an SUV to a sports sedan. There are definitely some crazy Tesla fans out there but the majority of us just love these cars and are excited to be around other people who love theirs. My model 3 performance is so awesome. It’s my dream car. The ID.4 is great but it just doesn’t evoke the same emotion for me personally.
As far as those glitches and issues with the software/infotainment and charging, you own the "updated ID 4". So, you most likely won't experience those problems with a 2023 on up.
Correct. 👍🏾
Just out of a curiosity, why did you opt for the phone mount at all? The ID.4 has Apple Car Play.
I ordered my 2024 ID.4 a few weeks ago, now waiting impatiently for it to be built. I'm in a similar situation, have a 3yo son, and a dog. I need to replace my aging station wagon, and I need to fit a medium-to-large dog transport box in the trunk with some space to spare, and I decided for this practical family SUV.
One thing I'd recommend, though is the back protection of the front seat. In a couple of years from now, you'll have your son in a front facing child seat, and he will kick the back of the seat in front of him, if he's anything like my son.
I simply recommend to cover the entire seat underneath the child seat (I was switching my son's child seat from one side to the other recently, and the amount of dirt I found underneath the seat was shocking), plus the back of the seat in front of him.
To play movies [for the passenger] on long trips when travel assist is on, or even just so I can have a large screen displaying Spotify while the main screen shows the map, or for filming videos, or for FaceTiming.
I’ll certainly invest in something like that when we get to that point. For sure.
I'll just call them the Tesla super super enthusiasts, but I think too many people make a huge deal about the SC network and you have to go Tesla just because of that. Glad the ID.4 is working out for you and the home charging is the real game changer. Working great on our Rivian :D.
Couldn’t agree more. I love Rivians. Wife really wants an R1S but our bank account keeps doing this weird thing where it doesn’t have enough money in it to afford a Rivian R1S sometimes. So strange. Hahaha.
@@BlakeCheck Haha, yeah even with the pre increase pricing, our wallet hurts. Gotta pay to play right now for a true EV SUV unfortunately.
We've had Teslas since 2016, the supercharger network is an absolute game-changer. If you're considering driving your EV outside the city, the supercharger is required. Now that the supercharger network has been opened to some other EVs, you don't need a Tesla for that reason. But make sure that your car has access to the supercharger network. The Rivian looks great, haven't driven one but I'm positive it's a great car.
We've driven from central Texas to San Francisco, New Mexico, Nebraska, and North Carolina. Lots of long-range experience.
Of course for in-city driving, you don't need a supercharger. In fact you don't WANT a supercharger (as the slow in-home charging is slightly better for the battery). I drove a 50 mile round trip commute in the Teslas for several years, NEVER used a supercharger for in-city charging.
@@Patrick462 Totally agree. We in particular really don't drive on road trips, like at all. So while having the SC network is nice if you have a Tesla (we also have a Model 3), we don't really utilize it. All I'm saying is that if you're looking at an EV, consider everything, not just Tesla because of the SC network. It's a nice to have, but not required.
We bought the Rivian full well knowing that we would have to use EA if we were going somewhere far. But those times are so few and far between, it's not really relevant and we'd just deal with it as a one time thing. Luckily for us, Rivian is going to jump on the SC network this coming spring. So we get the benefits of having the proper size car we wanted with no compromises and have the convenience of using the SC network for those few times.
As you mentioned, home charging is where it's at. We love having a private gas station in the garage :D.
I personally haven’t encountered issues with the CCS network but that should come with a caveat that I’ve only used them less than 10 times in our 6 months of ownership. I know it’s possible to road trip on the CCS network, but that it’s much more likely that you’ll encounter issues and longer wait times. I don’t think anyone in their right mind would dispute that much less try to compare EAs network to Teslas SC network. I like our ID.4 and love having some variety in the garage (helps me stay unbiased and gives me more perspective on the market) but we def would’ve bought a Model Y had we known prices were gonna come down a month after we got the ID.4. I’ll be first in line to buy an adapter if VW and Tesla come to an agreement on switching to NACS.
I would also schedule with Berge VW as they did treat me well
Haven’t tried them yet. Maybe I will when I run into issues again. Thanks!
Funny you say that, we're in fl and they have ony one tech too and in the waiting list for who know when
Yikes. What are you trying to get done?
@BlakeCheck have a recall for batteries, doors handle.
@jtalonrider4769 whaaat? For the high voltage pack?? If so, SK on cells or LG?
@@BlakeCheck i don't really know, i think is cells
@BlakeCheck for how long do you have yours?
That thang fits a stroller ? The box ?
Correct. Fits that jogger that you saw in the trunk too. Best believe I went over every inch of the stroller and jogger we have to make sure the dimensions worked before buying. The clearance is millimeters. It’s perfect. Lol.
It doesn’t look ugly….it has a shark 🦈 y look which is cool 😎
Service experience could b more where/state you’re…AZ might b why not as expected❕
I appreciate it! Thanks for watching. I actually just had it repainted to match a little better.
I’m hoping I don’t have to interact with service much more lol. It’s been pretty smooth sailing since that last experience.
Does it have the famous VW 'THUD' when you close the door.
Lmao indeed it does. 😂
TO EVERYBODY WITH AN ID.4: I have a 2023 Rav 4 Prime which is a PHEV. It’s for road trips. I also have a 2013 ICE Rav 4 that we want to replace with a BEV. It will mostly be for around town and charged at home with a level 2 EVCS. Okay. We are considering several BEVs including the ID.4, which is on the short list along with a Chevy Bolt and the upcoming Volvo EX90. Can you please reply with your personal experience with the ID.4 and would you recommend buying one?
You just described the perfect use case for the ID.4. Our experience has been great with ours and I’ve heard most if not all 2023 ID.4 owners reiterate that sentiment. If you aren’t interested in buying a Tesla (which is fine, no judgement) this is the best option on your short list imo.
@@BlakeCheckwe need cargo space for Costco runs so only the model y would do. I think it’s $10k or more expensive than our short list types. Cost for a run about BEV is a big factor. In about 5 years, when battery technology has improved and the road trip charging experience is much improved, we will get a road cruising BEV to do like you have and no more direct fossil fuel consumption. Then we will look seriously at Tesla vs other fast charging comfortable road cruising BEVs.
Be vareful with edge guart. There is potential rust issue.
It actually started coming off just a few weeks later so I removed it. Thanks.
🎉congrats & good call to take a break & focus on the true importance. The ID.4 is worlds better than Model 3 or Y. It’s one of the most under-recognized EVs. With our 2 kids, we do supplement with a minivan because you’re limited to 4 seats in the VW. By the time grandparent, family, or friend tags along the ID4 can shrink fast.
For everyday it’s so comfortable to drive and the EA charge network with the 3yr free charging is awesome.
Our pro s AWD is amazing in inclement weather and heated windshield should be standard on every EV.
ID.4 is great but I have to disagree with you on that first point. It does a couple things better (ride comfort, feels more solid), but that’s about where it ends. I check ppl when they say that the ID.4 sucks, that’s far from true, but I also gotta check you on that one bud: model y is a better all around car, hands down.
Haha nooooo way! I’ve had the 3, Y, too and now ID.4. The Tesla tech is better no doubt. The VW app absolutely blows. VW makes a better car for driving. Sunshade? Not in Tesla. Cornering lights, not in Tesla. Massaging seats, not in Tesla. Heated windshield, not in Tesla. Rear cargo cover, not in Tesla. Rear window wiper, not in Tesla. Free charging for 3 years, not in Tesla anymore. Drive modes, ambient lights, quiet hvac w/ normal vents, Normal windshield wipers that don’t go 100mph in misting rain, not in Tesla lol. And THEN you get into build quality and Tesla is still learning how to make cars.
Yeah we’re gonna disagree. Teslas do in fact have heated windshield (and a literal defrost mode in the app) and a cargo cover…the other stuff, a better drivers car does not make. If we were to sit here and every feature that Teslas have that the ID.4 does not have, we’d be here all day and frankly I don’t feel it’s necessary to do that: the market speaks for itself I think. It’s okay to like your ID.4: we like ours. But you don’t need to discredit Teslas to justify liking it lol. You gotta be more objective dude.
On that note, I don’t either of us are gonna benefit from this exchange anymore so I’m gonna leave you to your thoughts. Glad you like your ID.4!
Nice ID.4 man. Sounds like VW service is just as bad for their EV’s as it is for their gas/diesel powered vehicles. I have a TDI Passat at the moment. Love the car but the couple times I’ve had to take it into the dealer for warranty work has been an absolute nightmare. Weeks to get in, no loaners available, have to haggle with them and VWoA about coverage, etc. It’s really a shame, the cars are so great! Service is just terrible.
I appreciate it. Thanks for watching! And yeah you hit the nail on the head. Car, good. Service, bad. Fortunately we haven’t needed service again since. Hope it stays that way.
I can also say the VW service is a problem. I also had a AC issue that took 5 trips to finally get fixed. The issue is that VW dealership is 90 miles away from me. and there is only one other dealership and its as far away too
You had to drive 3 total hrs on 5 separate occasions to get a simple ac issue addressed??
@@BlakeCheck well to get it fixed yes. Scheduled an appointment to get it looked at and no tech was there even though I scheduled appointment, went again and thought they properly diagnosed the issue and they ordered the part. When I got it in to repair they took it in and then hours later get a call saying they had the wrong part. I was pissed. Took a day off work for that. Finally up there was going to take 4-6 hours but there weren’t able to finish that night so got an atlas for the night then it was done but no communication from dealership on if it was finished. It was frustrating but other than that my id4 has been great.
@@BlakeCheck I did contact vw customer support and they contacted them and made me feel better but still terrible experience. They gave me another 10k service and $50 to vw parts which was nice but still bad experience.
Unbelievable. Sorry you went through all that. Glad you’re ownership experience has been good other than that though. Same for us.
Canadian Id4 owner. The car has been with dealer VW Bramgate in Brampton Ontario since April 22nd, over 3 months, with no eta for missing parts and no support but sorry. At this point doubt I will ever see the car again.
Dang dude! I’m sorry. For what? The recall or something else?
@@BlakeCheck went in for the recall, they said there is a faulty radar module?
How bizarre. Truly sorry to hear that. Can’t imagine how frustrating that must be. Hope it all works out soon.
@@BlakeCheck thanks for the support hope you have good luck with yours
The model Y is the best tesla experience!
Subjective. Definitely a better suv than the ID4 in my opinion but I prefer the driving dynamics of the 3.
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The baby and you look a like
Fortunately for him he looks more like his mom haha.
Buying a better hardware than Model Y is never a mistake.
Wait you’re saying you think ID.4 has better hardware than the model y?
@@BlakeCheck I meant as a vehicle: build quality, ride quality, noise insulation. You can just compare closing door noise of the two cars.
@@BlakeCheck By the way the roof box is lit!!
Oh then I agree haha. ID.4 definitely feels more solid.
that's the smallest roof box ive ever seen lol
Haha. Well you know what they say. It’s not the size that matters. It’s how you use it.
can't argue with that! @@BlakeCheck
Model 3 LR rwd? Wtf is that?
Long range pack but single motor rwd variant that was discontinued late 2019. It was actually slightly more efficient than the dual motor variant bc it weighed less. Tesla stopped selling it bc more margin on dual motor and to simplify production.
Got rid of my ID4. Don't buy this crap! It is like a train without railroads!!! And take a Tesla Y for a day from Herz - you'll see what I'm saying.
Here's the story: I had always been a fan of Germans, until I bought this shame of German car making. Germany has winter, but it is somehow not prepared for winter AT ALL:
1) we put winter tires from official dealership (Michelin tires mind you), and Anti-slip system started to engage whenever I am trying to accelerate. I WAS ALMOST HIT BY A TRUCK WHEN MERGING to a highway - the car DID NOT ACCELERATE!!!!! THIS IS INSANE!!! the dealership was trying to "dial in" some settings, they invited a VW rep - NO CHANGE. I ended up swapping my tires back to mid season.
2) and now, after the "dialing in" experiment the range at 100% battery load shows 210 miles. I brought it back to the dealership - they can do nothing about it.
3) no heat pump - goodbye range in the winter
4) charging is slow - max charging speed I saw when charging was 65 - 70 kW
5) finding a decent charger is a good luck experience - you have to drive off the highway and there is no guarantee there'll be an available stall that works... AWFUL. We are driving between Boston and NY often - a couple of times we merely made it back home even with a pit stop to recharge...
Result: Picked up my TY in March 2024. ID4 has been such a waste of money. We paid 36K+ for a certified used ID4 a year ago and now trading in for 20K (VW offers me 19K and tries to sell a newer ID 4 - guess my reaction). DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY, IT IS A PIECE OF JUNK!
Tesla has a super reliable charging - it shows you how long to stay at what charger - and the network is SUPER RELIABLE!!!! After driving my TY for just 4 weeks - I forgot about ALL THE CARS I HAD PREVIOUSLY OWNED!!!
We have had our 2023 iD.4 for a little over a year and it’s been great. We love it. Have driven every version of the model Y and it’s great too. Those are not mutually exclusive truths. Peak charge rate for 2023 with SK On cells is 170kW which is good (and I believe the new 2024 might be even better than that). I live in Phoenix so cold weather isn’t a factor. I’m sorry to hear you had a bad experience and I’m glad you enjoy your model Y. I love my model 3, so I can understand your passion.
Had an FE and had issues for two years that were never resolved. So I sold it back to the dealer! i wish you good luck. FYI: as a viewer of this media I really want to see the product being reviewed and NOT the reviewer!
Sorry to hear it. Ours is performing great. Best part of CZcams is that there’s something to satisfy everyone. So many of us make the decision to put ourselves and our creative talent out there for your free viewing pleasure: if not me, I’m sure someone is making what you’re looking for.
The size of the box is feminine. But since ur on the west coast I can imagine it's smart because it doesn't entice theives.
I mean, it’s meant to store a baby stroller on my wife’s car so that makes sense.
10 minutes in and finally a review of the actual vehicle..
This isn’t a review video. It’s an ownership update.
I don’t Twit or X so I missed you update.🥲 Thanks for the update.
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