Paper Shotgun Shells - Peters Premier Blue Shotshells
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- Peters Blue is Back with new, yet traditional, paper hull shotshells. Tuned for the modern trap, skeet and sporting clay shooter, the paper hulls reduce felt recoil for a more enjoyable day at the range. Enjoy the sweet smell of paper…and victory.
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50 years ago when I started hunting as a youngster, plastic shot shells were a novelty, the "new thing", marketed toward waterfowl hunters.
Everybody that made shotshells at the time made paper shells.
I remember the days also. Thought they were joking when I first heard about the plastic ones.
That's awesome I've never shot any paper rounds but I'm still young at 56. 😃😆
I don't know about that,, I mean I know several companies made paper hulls for the shotgun shells but I shot plastic hulls in the late 60s, never thought of them as a novelty. But okay.
@@lovethehuntOutdoors I can remember shooting paper shells, but only in my 410. I'm also 56.
As the resident child in this thread at 47 (Lol). I honestly never knew about paper hulls. I just figured when they stopped using full length brass like the blackpowder shotguns it was because they started using plastic hulls.
Love those paper shells. Nothing like the smell of the waterproofing wax smoke on a cool fall morning.
Yeah. They have that distinct hot wax and gunpowder smell. That brings me back. I gotta get my hands on a box of those.
@@TheGeekiestGuy Federal makes them, too.
Thank you for your reply@@oldad6207.
I'll see if anyone brings them in out here. If not I'll order some hulls and load them myself. Have a good one, brother. 🤙🏾
Been awhile since I've seen them.. my dad had some laying around when I was a teenager of course I shot them.. 😉
@@JimRyser Oh yeah. I can smell it in my sleep.
I haven't seen paper shells in a long long time. Thanks for showing that they still make em. Appreciate the content, brother. I hope everyone's having a good one. 🤙🏾
A loooong time !!!
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Love them Paper Shells. I have shot a few of them years ago. My GrandPa had several boxes of Old shotgun shells and He let me shoot them all up when I was much younger. I used them Hunting Dove, Squirrels and Rabbits. I sure do miss Him.
When i first started reloading shotgun shells they were all paper and had to be careful not to pick up any that had rained on because they would seperate that was before they started making things out of plastic. That is how long i have been hand loading
I can remember the paper shells from the past. Plastic was just coming in during the time. I saw some somewhere a few weeks ago. Thanks for the video.
Never shot the Peter's paper shotshells, but back in the 70's and 80's when I was shooting a lot of trap, shot a lot of Federal paper shells. Worked great, and you could reload then 3 or 4 times before they started to get ragged around the mouth.
I love reloading Paper hulls.. Ballistic Products has some in 20 Guage 2.5" primed.
Yup .They had awesome performance.I shot my highest score with them.
Woo-Tee-Woo has finally gotten hold of some Peter's. 😏 Sorry man had to say it. My dad used to have a box of Peter's 22LR, and in 2011 back when gander mtn was around I had bought a couple boxes of there exclusive Peter's brand 22LR in 50 round retro styled boxed from remington. They were exactly the same in look and feel. And the rimfire shell were stacked exactly like the old original Peter's box. Just like my father had in his day. The first gun he had ever bought was a Ruger 22 automatic pistol with a few boxes of Peter's brand cartridges for it. I miss my father dearly since his passing in August of 2022. I still find things around the house that pleasantly remind me of him.
Paper was all shot gun shells used to be made of before plastic didnt know you could still get them pretty cool
Lol I grew up hunting with paper shells. There was nothing else. Once you shot a shell and held it to your nose and took a good sniff you will never forget that! When I first started bird hunting 20 gauge hulls were RED no gauge color coding back then. Even today I hunt with RST paper shells sometimes Rio Paper and Federal target paper shells. They are expensive but worth it to me.
Yup, dad had a brown sack full, and you had to check each shell to make sure you got the right gauge.
You are spot on!
I'm only 58, but I remember those from my childhood.
I used to love paper shells they used to be around a lot in the 70 s
I remember as a kid rummaging through my grandad’s closet where he kept his long guns and ammo. He had cases of these old paper shells. I fired hundreds of them off in his back yard learning how to shoot. The smell of those old paper shells going boom is like nothing else! It’s a smell I’ll remember forever.
I remember as a kid squirrel 🐿 hunting with paper shells 👍👍
When I first started hunting they were paper, awesome. I have metal detected for 35 yrs and I have found a lot of brass shotshells. Like big lipstick tubes
My neighbor had some of the solid brass shells, I could never talk him out of one, lol.
They’re pretty cool.
You are showing some of us our age. Paper shells were the thing when I was young.
Before my time 😄
When I got my 16 gauge topper my Uncle gave me a glass jar full of papper shells buckshot some slugs and some 4 shot. They were green and red that was back 45 years ago.
it is a real trip to hear your amazement about paper hull shotshells. Back in the 50's, when I was a kid learning to hunt and shoot, paper was standard, I still have tons of the old paper red hulls. Plastic hulls came to be and slowly the paper went out of vogue seems to me in the late 70's or 80's.
I remember someone in my family had some old shotgun shells that were made out of paper
When I was a kid I think all shotshells were paper. When the plastic shells came around the reloaders liked that from what I remember.
Winchester double A hulls we're a game changer for most reloaders. Before I started reloading I used to use Winchester double a trap and skeet loads and you could resell the once fired empty hulls for a nickel a piece at my local club.
Mr. WHO_TEE_WHO,
Back in 74 when my grandad died, my mom inherited his double-barreled side-by-side shotgun in 16ga. As I recall it came with about a half box of shells that had red paper hulls. A number of years later I tested a couple and they still worked just fine. I'm 60 now and I believe my mom still has those shells and the shotgun. Thank you for the video. It was great to reminisce.
Paper hulls are where "high brass" came from, it wasn't for heavy loads, it was to help keep the paper from burning through for reloading. I remembered when they were the only thing out there.
Moisture would make them swell and wouldn't chamber.
I believe they were rolled and glued.
You young whipper snappers!! 🤣
We realy have gone back in time... cardboard or paper was the OLDDDDDD DAYS
Good to see some old school coming back , thanks for the video
Heck yea, those take me back to the old days when I got my first shotgun as a kid. Nice.
I still have a few paper shells that were made back in the 60's. Hung onto them just because they were becoming obsolete.
Finally, those will reduce shooting trash significantly if more adopted. Thank you Remington.
In a few days I'll turn 68 and I recall when all shotgun shells were paper. And we clung to paper hulls until they disappeared from the shelves of our local stores. The reason we stuck with paper hulls was that the early plastic hulls were notorious for sticking in chambers and it was not unheard of for the brass to be pulled away from the plastic upon ejection/extraction which of course left the plastic hull stuck in the chamber(s). We learned to take our pocketknives with us so we could get the hulls out and get back to hunting. Not ALL plastic hulls stuck in the chambers but enough did that we despised the darn things. I don't know when the ammo folks figured out how to make plastic hulls that did not stick but those of us who had horded paper hulled shells did so until we ran out and had no choice but to switch to plastic. If I could find a few boxes of Peters in 16ga bird shot, I know which scattergun would see action this year. The double barreled I inherited from my Dad.
Yes I grew up with paper wall shot shells in the 70's and it worked well when kept DRY!
Ol' Dad you are soooooo right, intoxicating!!!!
I grew up shooting paper shells because that was all there was. The only problem with them is that you can't let them get moist or wet. I still have some. I really don't see the benefit with paper but old is new again and at least the paper brakes down in time when spent and left in the field, where plastic won't.
We used to reload paper shells when I was a kid.They where the best for trap shooting.
Grew up using paper hull shotgun shells.
When I think about shotgun shells, the distinct feel of paper hull shells is what comes to mind.
When I was a boy paper was all you could buy . I really liked the super old ones that had the paper tag in the end that told the charge . They also biodegrade. I got paper shells from the 40’s and 50’s that will still fire
Love the battle worn look of that radical. Never heard of paper shells before.
Paper used to be the standard.
Who Tee Who...
Paper shells is how 'they used ta was' ... back in 'the good ol days'
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Remington used to market their Peters Blue Magic plastic shells. I still have some of them. Federal Paper Champions were a great shell. Many times reloadable. I've only used them in my side by sides or over and unders, so I can't say how they would perform as reloads in an 1100 or any other semi-auto.
I'm coming up on 70 years old. Been hunting 60+ years and reloading shotgun, rifle and handgun about 50 years. A lot of shooters don't know the difference between a "high brass" and "high base" shot shell. The Winchester AA compression form case is a low brass case that can be loaded to any power from light trap or skeet loads to the heaviest magnum charges. "High base" or "low base refers to the internal base wad of a shell which determines how much powder charge and what wad with what weight shot can be loaded in that case. The AA compression formed case and similar competition does not have a separate base wad. It's built into the case. There are plastic shells with either low or high brass that have either low or high base wads depending on if they are low, standard or high velocity or magnum charges. Just because a shell has high brass does not mean that is more powerful. That might have be true in days long ago but is no longer. That also goes along with the BS that a long barreled shotgun "shoots harder". Any smokeless powder will have its shot charge at its maximum velocity in the first 18 inches of a barrel. Black Powder, which is a class A explosive and has a burn rate much faster than any smokeless powder but produces much less pressure may take a little more barrel length to get its shot charge up to speed.
I'm also going to have to call BS on Peters claim that paper cases have less recoil. If you passed basic high school physics you will know that the formula for energy is one half mass times velocity squared and that for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction. The speed of the shot charge and hot gases exiting the barrel pushing backwards on that shotgun are what determines recoil. Of course the modern gas operated or inertia operated auto loader are going to reduce felt recoil by using up some of the recoil energy. If you have a reloading manual that shows data for paper shells you will see that it takes a larger charge of a given powder with the same components and shot charge to achieve the same velocity as in a plastic case shell. That is because paper shells, at least in past years, do not seal in gases as well as plastic shells. Therefore they do not build up as much pressure. It's just like having blow by in an engine. You can't get maximum compression.
As to these new paper shells if I were to find some I might buy a box to try just for fun. The first thing I would do is to pattern them in one of my 1100's, 11-48's or 11-87's before taking them to the field. You Benelli shooters will have to do your own testing. If they cost more or don't work any better what's the use? Just more marketing BS and hype. Happy hunting boys and girls!😄
Fifties and into early sixties paper was king. Nostalgic reintroduction. I will buy some just because.!
I have reloaded hundreds of the federal paper shells. Used to get them from the shooting match, and reload them with 4 and 6 shot for rabbit and squirrel hunting. Still have a few. Shot some from 25 years ago last year and they still go boom
Awesome
When I started hunting in 1967 paper shells were the norm I remember seeing plastic shells for the first time and thinking what the hell 🤣😀
Trick shot WhoTee!! Good shootin’ as always!!
Paper hulls are awesome. Federal makes them too, they’re pretty cool. I’ve been loading my own paper hulls in 20 gauge.
Yeah some CZcams guy that reloads a lot of buckshot told me about them 20 Guage "yellow" paper Hulls at Ballistic Products.. got me some and they worked great.. 😁
@@mattkissmyasstyrants8676 wow didn’t expect to run into you here man lol
@@theshotgunscientists ah man I Love WHO_TEE_WHO lol. He's a great gun Toober. I also frequent Alaskan Ballistics, Therapy Range and Todd the gun guy. Therapy Range has fired a few of my loads and guns.
Started hunting when I was 12 and I’m now approaching my 66th birthday. Didn’t know they were bringing back the paper shell. Never hunted with them but I recall hunters not being happy with paper shells when they got damp as they would swell and not fit into the chamber. I do still have a few old paper shells that I have collected through the years.
I grew up with waxed paper shotgun shells in the 70’s, think I still have some of my Dads reloads from the 50’s
Paper was used in the first cartridges in the 1870’s. They also used fibre wadding so we’re completely biodegradable. Eley in the UK made some of the first cartridges I believe.
I have 6 full boxes of paper shells from the late 50’s or early 60’s in my ammo stash. 1 box of peters #7 1/2 , 2 boxes of Winchester super X # 4 shot, and 3 boxes of Winchester super X #2 shot. All 12ga. Nothing like the smell of a recently fired paper shell. I remember when plastic shells came on the scene. They were pretty much a novelty thing. I started shooting shotgun at age 10 in 1959. My dad gave me my first shotgun, a Mossberg 20 ga bolt action with a 2 round box magazine so with 1 in the tube you have 3 available. It has an adjustable choke. It resides in my safe now . I take it out every couple years and shoot it. My grandson gets it when the time comes.
Those were what you got when I started shooting. Yeah, I remember when plastic shells came out. They are better now. The paper ones liked to swell over time.
I been using paper cartridges, reloads, for 65 years. Still reload and they work fine. About 40 years ago I started using plastic wads. Federal,Winchester peters ,remington and plain with no labels.
Wow you make me feel old. This is how shotgun shells was made in the 60's and 70's. And in all calibers. .410, 20, 16 and 12 gauge. LOL
I've got a old pump shotgun, with a cage at the end of the barrel, with choke tubes. Modern shotshell wads peel off and fill the cage. Glad to see these.
It’s fine I shot the paper shells for years with my granddad . When I started shooting in 1973 !
Until well into the 60's, all shells were paper. When my dad and I reloaded them, there were also no plastic shot cups. Reloading was a very tedious process. Atop the powder, we placed a thin Nitro card to contain the flame. One or two thick Alcan cushion fiber wads made of reclaimed wool or paper were seated one at a time, then the shot charge was added. Loading data gave how many and how thick, like two 3/8". Nothing protected the shot from bore contact, but they gave good spreads for close range partridge hunting. We reloaded them at least three times. I still have a few boxes, including slugs and buckshot. Absolutely nothing new about paper shells! Actually, manufacturers never stopped using rolled paper base wads in plastic field loads.
Old school shot shells.
I have boxes of old paper hulls shotgun shells. Good that there are companies still making them.
They are good and fun! Nostalgic!
My first shotgun back in 1977 was a second hand Italian Breda 12 gauge semi automatic,in a presentation box,it was completely covered in silver and gold inlay including the barrel and mag tube, it had screw on external chokes and came with 50 box’s of ICI,DuPont,Elly, Knock, and Winchester cartridges, they were all paper cartridges. I remember buying new ammo with paper hulls but can’t recall the brand. I sold that gun to a friend, I should never have sold it, I won’t ever own something that beautiful again😢
Well kid, that's all we had when I was a kid. All shotgun shells were paper. Smell is totally different. The wax burns off some. They also crimp much easier.
I Love loading up paper Hulls.
When I saw the shotgun shells in the thumbnail I was kind of hoping to see that beautiful Weatherby pa-08 again.
Shot boxes of paper shells , old guys rule.
I have reloaded MANY a paper shotgun shell in my younger days with my dad.. I still have the Lee reloader (whack a shell) and still have all the shot, wads, powder and primers in a box..
Got a box of old paper shells. Had no idea they still made them.
I still have my grandfather's paper shells. Box of Winchester 4&5 shot. By the date code they was made in the late 30's or early 40's.was able to take a gobbler in 2022 spring turkey season
Where do you find all this ammo ? I used to reload back in seventies, paper was my favorite
I probably got two or three boxes mix matched that came from my dad,grandpa, and uncle. Got some old Peters rifle shells as well. They still shoot, and probably 60 years old.
My stepdad had some old .410 paper shells from way back in the day. Cool stuff
Cool segment! I still have some of these, as well as some paper Winchester, and Revalation brand in my ammo scrapbook box. Shot quite a few in my early years. Like to look at the original price tags, some $1.79 at Western Auto! 😂
Yep revelation, I have a purple plastic 16ga. hull, revelation shell from way back in the late 60s or early 70s.
That's all there used to be in the 50's and early 60's! Grew up shooting paper shotshells!
When I was a teenager, I bought a few boxes of paper shotgun shells. They were probably old even back then.
When i was a teenager they were all paper
@@garywoodlief1976 lol
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OMG I LOVE THE FINISH ON THAT BULL PUP, VERY VOOL LOOKING
I used to see them a lot when I was a kid 50 yrs ago 😂
I can't count how many shotgun brass from paper shells I have dug up metal detecting...multiple hundreds at least.
Cool to know they are still making them.
Never seen them before 🤔 awesome video as always 👍
Yupp over fifty five years ago we used them and loved there power and knock down for ducks n geese . They're wax impregnated paper and they reload beautifully. I've shot thousands of those and federal paper target loads. Competition trap is my game and i did very well. at big shoots. All over the east coast.
WOW! It has been years since I seen a paper shell. My old 16 ga loved them.
I remember paper shells being the norm. Winchester Super X was what my grandpa hunted with in bird shot and slugs.
At least the paper breaks down out in the field where the plastic out lasts even the brass heads.
In the late 60s early 70s. Shells were paper. I still have a few.
Awesome!! I remember paper shells when I was a kid.
Nice to see the paper back. Intresting to see how they compare to what we are now used to.
Thanks for the awesome video and information and showing spent shell's as well.
Thanks for watching Jerk
I am old. All shotgun shells, when I was young were paper or brass. Brass were the old ones. I didn't see a plastic shell, until I was a teenager.
My German Shorthaired Pointer and I. Would knock on the Farmhouse doors. Carrying a shotgun . Most often the man of the house, was already busy. Most heard was ... Oh! Go ahead Sonny. Or you will find him near the barn.
I don't remember ever getting turned down.
In the cornfields of Illinois.
My Buck was taught to point, by his mom. If I got more than two. I dropped off the rest.
I almost always got more.
Also usually a sweet snack and milk or tea. With an invitation for next year. From the man of the house. Pheasant season of my youth.
Wow. I haven't seen paper shellsbin 35 or 40 years
We collect the old antique paper shells. Good show.
My Grandpa told me about Remington Peters that they made them years ago. Cool to see them back again. I bought a few boxes myself. Great videos by the way thanks!
My Dad used those paper shells in his double barrel shotgun while hunting geese on the river
You are making me feel old Who Tee. But my grandson also often asks me what it was like "back when everything was made of wood".
I remember when shotshells were paper or occasionally brass. Plastic was introduced for water fowlers and then became the rage. Paper was looked down on as inferior. Now here we go again.
Paper was how all shotgun shells were made
My uncle Walt even reloaded the paper shot shells. Antimony replaces lead now in some cases.
Back in the day I fired plenty of Peter's True Blues, along with Federal Champions and Winchester Super X loads. Actually reloaded the Federals about 5 - 6 times when I was shooting trap leagues. Those old paper hulls were pretty tough!
My grandfather gave me his 16 gauge side-by-side and a decades old box of Peters in the mid-1970s.
Shot gun shells were made out of paper until the 1960s My dad still had some in the 80s.
What they used when I started hunting. Use to cut partway through the paper all the way around to make it act like a slug
That's some cool history. Been around a long while
Flash from the past.....way back when
I was shooting paper hulled cartridges from the USSR back in England as a youngster. They were red of course, but had a rolled top with a paper disc on the top. Not crimped.
Glad to see Remington, remaking that retro round..
Didn't even realise paper shells were a thing, thanks for the video mate. I might ask around over here for this to use in my 12g SxS shotty👍
Hi, my father used these a long time ago...when I was young!lots of colors and brands 👍😉
Used them all the time when I was young
Great video! I JUST had about 8,000 rounds of ammo sent up here in AK. (It took quite a bit of logistics, but I got it done). It was part of what I had when I lived down south. In that shipment I have several hundred shotgun shells that I inherited from my grandfather. Still in good shape, they fire reliably, so many years later.
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