BMW M47 / M57 Crankcase Breather Replacement
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- BMW M47 / M57 crankcase breather replacement.
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I have to say, that my BMW dealer chief mechanic told me that the "old" version, which was not old anymore as it was re-introduced on newer models, the one with the little sponge filter inside instead of the vortex, is more efficient and does a better job than the vortex one IF, and only IF, you are going to change the little filter every 2nd oil change...this is what I am actually doing on my e90 320d M47 163HP
Correct Mr Z the reason this one is covered in oil is because its not efficient, i have just removed my original one on a 2001 330d 150k and it was almost spotless apart from the filter
@@carlwood5501 I have a M47 136hp and i rather have the old one than this updated version.
Everytime i change it the filter is dirty but the housing is pretty clean.
Since its a bit of work to access the air filter and the filter is very cheap i change it everytime i change the air filter.
I service the car every 6.5 - 7k miles or every year since i dont do too many miles.
Good video George, you very often replace items most people do not know exist, Very informative.
Cheers Michael!
Very helpful as ever George, all the best in the new year mate.
Same to you mate!
Funny you make this video😂I needed it. Great videos though mate, very useful for my E46 320Cd.
Just for you mate👍🏻
Great vid!
Good to see a bmw channel that doesn't lie or massively over exaggerate how hard a job is to make it look like he knows what hes doing. When all they do is copy other youtube videos badly
🙌🏼
Thanks for the video
Great content mate!
Cheers Ivan!
Great video mate
Thanks mate
Can you tell me if this will fit my x5 e70 2009 and what is part number cheers Pete keep up the good work
Hi, what did you used for cleaning? And how ?
I changed my air filter today and noticed mine has a little bit of oil exactly where yours was but I replaced it 2 years ago with new seals also 😤
Love the video, thanks! Quick question, should the loose part be fixed to the main body of the breather before assembly? I tried to push it on but it wouldn't really sit right so I left it loose, but tightened it up and hoping it pinched together? It was the febi version :-)
Just replaced the CVV on my own 320d touring, I'm very new to working on cars. And now it no longer smokes on hard acceleration, woo! Cheers for the very clear guide, I wouldn't have attempted this had I not seen this video. Next up, glow plugs.
Did it puff black smoke on hard acceleration?
@@shaunhollis1624 It was pretty smokey off the line, especially after idling about for a while. Much better after changing the CCV.I've also cleaned up my intake and replaced the gaskets, made a good difference.
You are fricking awesome dude! you’ve saved me hundreds on repairs recently on my bmw 120d m47 e87 Just like to say thank you so much 👍🏻
my vortex breather did send lots of oil to intake, so yeah, you still need to clean that at least,( and i mean cleaning of vortex separator and intake itself) so it is much better to use good "old" fabric filter to prevent that, not to say diesel engine can use oil as a fuel, so it can start revving on its own
What was the case how did the engine runn?
Ive checked mine and i have the new vortex option, and all appeared ok. Just for my info, how did u clean it all up ??
Can you spray brake cleaner in and around the crankcase breather system and wipe it all away ?? If not what did u do ??
Can you use a vortex style one on an e39 530d 193ps?
What did u clean the case with ?
Hello. Where is the pcv valve on this model? thanks
what does the second compartment do on the CCV? Im tempted to Delete mine and use a catch can.
05:10 What did you use to clean it? Brake cleaner sprayed directly inside or?
Could this cause thick white smoke form exhaust? Worried got blown head gasket but want to double check easier stuff first. Thanks
Nice video’s I have mine 320cd 113k miles 330cd 156k odometer.not done yet in 5yrs.😬I seen to much smoke while I floor it 😀
No chance for me to do always rainin in wales 🏴
hello
mine was old version, got a new one put up now i've done 70,000k, should i replace it back or not
Hello mate how you doing? Can I ask you and everyone else here a question... do you all think remapping m performance bmw vehicles good?
thx bro
io uso sempre quello con il filtrino cilindrico, mai avuto problemi
Good job again George
You have that in the n47 engine?
your videos are really helpful
I made a video replacing the N47 one👍🏻
Can you do a video on replacing the blower motor , starter and maybe turbo recon in the future, love your videos!
If they need replacing then sure👍🏻
Yes agreed. My blower motor is faulty
The mixer valve seems to be faulty on mine, will only blow hot on the left side. Would be interesting to see but believe the part needs coding with Insta-d.
I know this is 2 years ago. But I ordered the kit and my crank case breather on my e60 530d says Viaco on the top. Is this the modified vortex breather as it says Viaco on it and not the toilet roll version not sure? I have no oil leaks on the outside. Thank you
Nice vidoe pal
Cheers mate
Hi, on a bmw e90 1.6 petrol can you please tell me where the pcv valve is, is it still in that place?
Am I able to just replace the module itself and not the housing? Price difference is crazy
How to clean? With Break Cleaner?
what is Crankcase Breather how it works????
Just had my 2007 325D breather replaced after 150K miles (don't think it had ever been serviced) so is now the vortex type. It's like night and day now, had some other major work done and it's like a new car. Love that engine.
Yeah, i changed mine yesterday. The engine feels totaly different.. what more work did you do? I plan to do a egr delete also..😊
Can you describe how "different" it feels ? My e53 has 300 000km and i think that breather is still original.
@@michaltimko the turbo spunn up much quicker..engine feels little snappier.. i plan to do the egr-delete and clean out the intakemanifold and intakeports..
@@vladito80 Thanks a lot for a fast reply. I`ll definitely replace that little piece of plastic. What brand did you used ? Febi/Meyle ? I tried to drive with EGR vacuum hose plugged and throttle response was def. better but i plugged it back. I think when car was new and everything was clean, engine was responsive. BMW wouldnt sell it in state in which we have our cars now with everything dirty and on half-way to death :) Thats why i believe egr is not (or wasnt) a problem when engine works as it should.
Im also planning to replace MAF. I heard that it was best mod from basically every m57 diesel owner i know. Lot of MAFs are malfunctioning and not throwing code. And also, MAF is controlling EGR as well.
@@michaltimko I ordered some generic brand from ebay i think.. its not a filter its a direkt fit vortex breather..
Hi George. I have a lot of oil coming out of the crank case breather so i replaced it. The new one also spills oil so maybe it could be blow by?
@@TheMrPopper69 worn or broken piston rings.
Thanks for your help ! Great video
Someone's M47 is spitting oil from the oil cap? I changed 2 times the oil breather with the vortex type, and it blow me a new turbo and a lot of oil spitting in the engine bay from the oil cap, and only adding a oil catch can i solved the problem... Someone like me?
Hi George, great video. I replaced mine ages before my turbo blew. It's been a couple of months since I changed my turbo and I'm having a bit of an issue I hope you can help me with. The engine runs sweet and I'm getting no smoke from the exhaust at all now etc however, when I remove my oil filler cap or dip stick, there is a fair amount of white smoke flying out. I've been scratching my head over it for weeks as I'm sure it's not normal and indicates too much pressure? I'm double check but I don't think there's suction pulling the cap down. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks!
I have exact same thing
@anassnouri6129 hi mate, don't worry, it's normal. Just make sure your vortex/pcv isn't blocked. I just removed the internal filter altogether. They all have white smoke. That's the smoke that runs from the vortex/pcv valve, along the air box and back into the intake system. I've deleted all this now and chopped the air box off to put an inducting kit on. I made a blank plate to replace the pcv vortex, got a brass elbow on it with a pipe that runs back into the intake, so no need for a vortex filter any more . Cars way faster now 😜
I have the same issue, changed turbo (that blow up) and togheter with the breather... I saw that my engine is "breathing" from the oil cap cus it was dirty with oil, than the same turbo belw up again and smoked white smoke and half a litre of oil (thinking that the engine did breathe throw the turbo, changed again turbo and breather). Checked compression and everithing, it was still breathing through the oil cap. The only thing that helped me was an oil catch can that i connected to the oil hose and the engine is not breathing anymore from the oil cap, but my impression is that she smokes a bit, but oil consumption is not so excessive. Someone can help me? i'm out of ideas, and the oil catch can whitin 1000 km is compleatly empty...
Hello I was wondering is this the reason why I think I’m finding oil in my charge pipes intake pipes? M57 engine?
Yes it's normal
Can a broken vortex breather be the cause of oil drops from the intercooler of the car?
yes if your breather is bad it pushes oil to intakemanifold
Great vid George. Anyways would you know why there is oil on the maf housing and the maf sensor on the m57? Where should I start looking for leaks. Thanks, by the way my mpg is absolutely appalling, getting 14/15 mpg local from a 2.5 diesel 😬
Did you find. Out what was up?
@@anishmahadeo5073 was hoping George would have helped, didn’t get to the bottom off it ended up selling the car.
@@AshG786 ah shame, my first guess would have been it's coming up from the turbo up the pipe to the MAF personally which would mean an oil seal has failed on the turbo which is bad news or it could be being pushed through by a faulty PCV. I'm gonna change my PCV before the blows all my oil seals
@@anishmahadeo5073 actually i did change the turbo seal as the other one was leaking so it May have helped the cause. If changing the pcv valve use a reputable brand.
@@AshG786 ah good, yeah I used meyle, the one on the car was vaico
Can be the reason for my m47, to louse a little oil between intelcooler pipe and egr valve?
A little bit of oil is normal
Too many M47 owners complained of too much oil into the intake pipes because of this vortex type air oil seperator.Additionaly,charge air temperature sensor failures may occur because of this big oil concentration on the sensitive electrical component of the sensor with bad affects to injection fuel rate.Too much oil into the intake manifold could also produce soot and DPF cloggage dont you agree?The older loo roll type was more effective in oil gas filtering and prevent oil leakage into the intake pipes...The only disedvantage was the required maintenance every 20000-30000 km (filter replacement).What is your opinion on this?
Definitely you're right!
@@nbrtr4141 Charge air temperature sensor operates badly in my X3 E83 2.0d.Only when engine is on high load on turbo boost shows normal values. On idle or when cruising or deceleration temperature values drop below ambient temperature. I believe is because of oil. If I put sensor somewhere under the hood (I use a 2nd sensor) temperature reacts normally...
@@georgiosz. First of all M47 does not have a DPF and second, all the oil who get in the manifold its burned because of the high level air temperature. I removed the manifold because of this thought and it was pretty clean, but I have egr and swirl flaps off and remap.
@@kent8280 Wrong!M47TU MY2006 has a DPF.X3 E83 2.0d has a seperate unit .Older models definately don't have.About oil,I agree it is burned into the engine.But I insist that too much oil my affect temp and MAP sensor readings!
@@georgiosz. My mistake, I was thinking about e46. Yes, X3 has the DPF.
Got the same engine and it’s putting out blue smoke you think this will be the issue?
Possibly yes!
By the way, does it make any sense to add an oil catch can into the system of a n47/x3lci/-08. I think of a Ventpro 200 from Mann.
Personal preference
@@GeorgeAusters But if I want to see a real difference, I have to clean more or less the whole egr system.
I have 205 kkm on the clock, and I'm quite aware how it looks like inside the system... 🙄
By the way, thank you for all the informative videos!
did you changed that old air filter?
Yes
i also replaced mine the other day still have the loo roll filter
Good stuff, make sure you change it every other oil change👍🏻
What year was your car mate? Mines an 06 will it have loo roll? It’s running rough & bogging low end
What would happen if you left it empty? No loo roll no updated breather? Just pull it out an replace with nothing an close it back up. Would it cause any issues or benefits etc?
Hi, you just liked the comment but never answered the question?
@@SY-ml5nl Ya because he does not know the answer, guys just a CZcamsr not a mechanic
@@SY-ml5nl I know the answer. If you left it empty it will suck oil from the engine to the combustion chamber way more, than broken (old) crankcase breather itself. The filter or plastic labyrinth (updated version) is there to prevent sucking oil, it only filtrates the oil vapors.
Lots of smoke I’m guessing because this is there to allow crank case Vapor’s to be re burnt but stop oil going in with the vapours
Would i need to do this to my 118d, M47n2 engine?
Yes, all M47 and M57 engines
@@GeorgeAusters thankyou bro
Code please!
Ad essential maintenance item, every other oil change if I recall correctly. Better to change it for the "newer" vortex version and make sure that you clean it every other oil change rather than having to replace the "loo roll" filter.
Is it possibile to clean it?
Not worth it
can you just clean this crankcase breather,not bying new ?
Not worth trying
will it fit to e39 520d m47 as well? I want to install the updated version
Yes
@@GeorgeAusters pn 11127799224 on realoem does not list e39 m47 is quite annoying, still it gives 11127799225 but is this the updated version or not..
What about clean filter and maybe intercooler cleaned as oil will be in there, thanks thought useful better if you could show symptom i.E remove turbo inlet pipe and thier a main breather reurn to inlet mine was dripping oil from thier will idleing, the oil can damage the turbo turbine cold side so inspect turo turbine, oil can shash your turbine taking chucks out and the oil can kill the dpf / cat. So this may need replacement also. Smoking a symptom to
Cual es el respiradero del motor
Please can you supply part number for this replacement vortex part
Is it not linked in the Description?
i have a 320d e90 m47 also changed this because one car was leaking oil on the hood and smoking it worked but after 2 days back same problem please help me
Did you replace the O-ring?
What was the problem?
La cat schimba asta uleiul de arata in halul ala😅
I took my crank breather off today and noticed there was no cartridge inside in like yours. Is that bad ?
There isn’t on the later models
@@GeorgeAusters hmm good to know thank you
Hi , i searching in manual but i couldn't find where is written "Nm" for breather. Are you sure 10 Nm are correct ?
PS: Great video :)
Won't be far off!
@@GeorgeAusters I ordered Vaico.OEM part is too expensive for me , i hope aftermarket part is good choose.
@@VelizarL Vaico was on before this and it leaked. Febi is better.
Did my aftermarket Ebay breather at 7 Nm and snapped 1 middle bolts. Was so careful ordered new breather hopefully better quality and hoping enough to remove snapped bolt out
Don’t get a cheap ebay one
You clean with what ? That oil ?
Brake cleaner
Yo mate I know this is a bit random but u seem to know your stuff lad just wondering if u could give me any advice on an issue I have with my bmw its a 2003 e46 320d it has the 136hp engine in it now and I removed the swirl flaps and the egr it dosent have the 150hp engine in it I had to change it out back in June and it pulled like a train and drove really well but ever since i changed the engine i had to get a new engine I've had a big loss in power its driving like it has no boost at all ive inspected the turbo and the boost pipes and checked for boost leaks and I've also checked all the sensors and everything is working as it should and the turbo is putting out the correct amount of boost that it should be making but it drives as if there's no boost it dosent pull whatsoever its completely dead just wondering if u know of any other reasons as to why its like that just asking u cause u seem to know what your an about I've had it checked by loads of diffrent garages and even they don't have a clue im getting desperate to sort this out 😂😂
Engine and turbo are not communicating together which leads me to think ecu may need some checking and maybe programming. I may be wrong but this would be my first thought if everything is operating as it should
@@velocitydrift1214 cheers lad ill get that checked 👍
@@jayknuckels0431 keep us updated and will try and help you further
I have a 2009 e61 525d(m57n2) i replaced the crankcase breather as preventitive maintenance but i still find alot of oil in the breather pipe that goes to the turbo and the engine eats oil, i went with febi and the vortex one, now im thinking of replacing it again, is the m47 and m57 breather the same?
whats your mileage? what is your oil consumption? It could also be turbo, dpf, cylinder head or worn engine
@@MrTurboDima 290k km, changed valve stem seals, turbo has been restored, so the only thing left are the piston rings
@@MrTurboDima dpf has been cut out
@@noxlight5564 check injector corrections first. than engine compression
@@MrTurboDima compression is good
What could happen if that crancase breather hadnt been replaced for a long time or even failed working?
Sucking in oil, oil consumption..
When I checked mine there was only a small amount of oil not like yours. However, there was no filter nor a vortex filter. Is this normal?
No that’s not normal. The previous owner had taken out the loo roll but you need to replace it with the vortex one. Leaving it open like that is detrimental to the engine
Can't seem to find the breather anywhere.
Look again
@@GeorgeAusters I'm talking about where to buy it. I know where it is on the valve cover. I've been looking online for this updated breather and I can't seem to find it anywhere.
Is it just me or are u missing the fan shroud on that engine?
Yes
Hi George ive just purchased this kit for my M57 530d I notice on your video the 2 larger gaskets I also have a small o ring gasket but I'm not sure were this goes any advice would be appreciated.
Hello the O ring goes between the bigger part and the smaller part (the one that you can remove)
There's always oul hanging around these things.
Theres a nifty little trick you can do 😂 you still have the intake damper . This was seen as a mistake by bmw . You dont really need that . Remove it . Bit more noise but you get a better running engine in return
i hope you changed that air filter too jeez
Of course
I did the same, but for the N47 engine. Mine is more complicated to do, so I did it at the workshop.
For the M47, so easy. For the N47, 3 hours, bigger part and bigger costs.
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I also did mine on my n47 but it certainly didn’t take 3 hours. Just need to pop the diaphragm off the rocker cover and install a new one👍🏻
@@GeorgeAusters The guy in the workshop took a maximum of 2+ hours, 3 hours including getting to the workshop, finishing up, paying, repairing the M-ASK iDrive knob and leaving.
Honestly takes no longer than 10 minutes to replace👍🏻
Here’s my video on it:
czcams.com/video/QKb4sCHqfWg/video.html
poor video no explanation of how it works or what its purpose is
Did you not read the title? It’s a replacement video
What is it with yoytubers and the weird way they say. Ai-nother and ai breather is head of a breather and another . Also Thee instead of the . I don’t anyone who say the in general conversation