Flying Backwards with Twisted Risers - BANDARRA
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I've seen people twist around when flying to look backwards or just for fun and I've been wanting to try that move.
Well this day was the day. The ridge was almost empty, there was plenty of smooth lift and a safe wing and this is what I found.
It takes a considerable amount of force to get twisted half a turn and to stay twisted. As soon as you let go of the risers the wing wants to spring you back to your normal position immediately!
However if you go for the full turn or more that untwisting force is much smaller and it's harder to get out of it. In a controlled environment I think it's really good to try these things as you learn what to expect in an emergency.
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Thank goodness for that!! Lost my usual first place, but ANOTHER GREAT episode to look forward to.
More good stuff! Thanks
Nice flight
Another great video. Thanks a lot :-)
Cool... Thanks 4 the Vids....
Twist and shout... fun!
i am reminded of the time when the down escalator was broken at the mall so i tried to go down the up escalator. I just wasn't getting anywhere.
I've been wanting to practice that also :)
U make paragliding look so easy
You get more weight shift response because you're effectively moving your clip in points together.
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Awesome! Thanks Jarred, hope you enjoy it :)
@@AndreBandarra1 hows the retreat going? I'm real excited to hear about it and if you guys are going to plan a 2nd one later in the season
It's going really well. Everyone has a great attitude and we are getting some good weather days so hopefully it will be worth it at the end :)
Twists are cool when self inflicted :)
like u say its counter intuitive, if u're facing backwards and a asymmetric happens where does the weight shift go? I know that u have to partially pull the good side to keep heading.
You still have to weight-shift to the side that is not collapsed, but if you are twisted leaning left will put weight on the opposite side
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I noticed she stopped the audio at the question "Does it take long to learn to control it?". Funny. Guy sounded pretty interested, though. Watching Anthony playing like THAT, it would be tough not to. Interesting vid., great to have the audio from the pilot on it during a "new endeavor" like this.
"It really wants to twist you back to normal". Watching videos of people going down at obviously high "g", maybe spinning and obviously quite "locked" into the twist, I suspect (pretty much know) that is true only on the straight, level, controlled mode you were flying twisted in there. I don't think I would depend on that in ANY WAY, to be the case in a "flat spin" twisted or fouled line type of environment.
Again, not a parafoiler yet, just commenting from the videos I've seen of people in this mode, trying to extricate themselves from it, sometimes in panic mode, sometimes not and often all the way to a very hard, but apparently often survivable, if frequently injurious, landing....anyone that HAS experienced this, feel free to correct me if wrong, as I'm trying to "learn in advance" here, too, and have occasionally been known to make "ignorant idiot" comments. ;-) :-(.
Also, anyone who has experienced a main/reserve set of foils, flying downward opposing, as they seem to settle into, when one is twisted and the reserve is thrown, please comment on collapsing the fouled foil to get the sink rate back to normal. Seems like the RIGHT thing to do, given enough altitude to accomplish it....know they DON'T teach that in many schools. Is is an issue of the fouled chute being difficult TO collapse, given multiple twists, and disallowing a pull on the Cs or whatever, or what? I'm curious.
This is what I was thinking ... have they actually had formal training? A lot of the signs point to no.
@@audioillity7893 You might want to watch him handle a ground "kite", though, before you get down on these two. He doesn't just hold it above trying to keep it stationary for launch, he does TRICKS with it.
@@MrJdsenior They just seem very unconfident like they haven't had full training or they did the basic course and never spoke to another paraglider again! A lot of things they would learn about in a club before trying themselves they just seem to be out there learning about for the first time! I'm not doubting their skill, just their training.
@@audioillity7893 I understand. I think he is trying to push the "be safe" aspect by the "tenor" or tone of the videos. Maybe it just didn't "sit right" with your mentality toward PG? The whole thrust of his series is "learn by doing", and for the most part, he is pretty careful, from what I've seen, but he does show when things get a bit "sticky", as well, including judgement errors...again, I think to help get info out there about different aspects of the sport.
He has done a couple of things that would certainly be outside my current safety "range" (especially at the more conservative age of 60, at his age I probably would have) like flying the seed, a non cert wing. Apparently many other PG fliers have done this, he certainly knew that, and he was VERY careful to pick a good day, and keep the envelope really "flat", as in nothing but gentle weight shift /gentle braking inputs for gentle turns, STILL outside my current safety zone, by a lot. I find the "immortality" thinking goes away at about the inverse square of my age. ;-)
I'm pretty sure he has had training and in his other videos he flies with other paraglider pilots in places like Lake Anise, France where they do both regular and SIV training. I think he has done the SIV, too, but not sure.
One thing that does concern me a bit is their flying out over deep water without flotation, and I've mentioned this in comments a couple of times. Even a good swimmer, if they were to hit the water really hard, as I've seen happen in some SIV vids under hosed lines or chute, maybe with a reserve out as well, where they said they were injured enough to require days or weeks of recovery to feel "normal" again, or just the possibility of getting entangled hundreds of feet of line. They may have some there in the seat I don't know about. I hope so. Both seem like really nice "kids".
I know as an avid RC and, at one time, a private pilot who built a LongEZ, that anything that CAN happen, likely will (to me anyway) and that anything that CAN'T happen has a fair possibility of occurrence. Cheers, fly safe, fly fun.
I see the problem of landing with too much headwind and the pilot is moving backwards relative to the ground and moving forwards relative to the air. Could this idea of twist be used in that situation or are you too close to the ground with too many other problems and you just need to do a parachute landing fall?
I am no means an exoert but id say no. Thats a bad idea. If the wind speed is more than trim so your landing backwards. You want full control of the glider so you are ready to kill the wing as soon as you land to avoid being dragged backwards. But what do i know
@@bendoherty3129 yes you pointed out my assumption the wind speed is too much you're landing into it flying backwards. If I was flying backwards and I had a half twist I would be facing forwards and I would prefer to land with my feet facing forwards and my wing-facing into the wind if the wind was exceeding my trim speed.
I mean its not a crazy suggestion. Im not experienced enough to really know if it would be good.
I get twisted quite often. But not on a paraglider. 😁
Adorable video ...waiting for Gemma twisting...you both great but one thing is undertand Andre explanations one another is tio think it is the twist back fly itself easy...Im out!!!
what about the brakes
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