Lil Wayne Reveals Why Lebron Is His GOAT Over MJ & Kobe | ALL THE SMOKE | Full Ep Drops Tomorrow
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- On an upcoming episode of ALL THE SMOKE, Lil Wayne reveals his GOAT rankings between Kobe, Lebron, and Michael Jordan. He explains why Lebron is his pick for #1.
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“ bron don’t even know what the middle feel like “ that’s a banger 😂
Bar
He got bars whether he rappin or not 🤣🤣
What Wayne said about us being young and only pay attention to the game on a surface level, just enjoying our favorite players and hoping they win and trashing other opposing players and teams. ppl denounce the things you need to pay attention to in order to actually tell who is the best this or that in sports because of bias and favoritism. Many ppl still think sports like theyre 13 in highschool still. insulting their own sports intelligence for bias takes
Never heard one denounce
lol...stop reaching. There are a large number of sophisticated sports fans. Wayne said nothing profound.
Lil wayne cancels his owns shows while in the arena they would have to pay him so much money to get a person who's never had a 9-5 and he's been working since he was 9 that guy is not going in Monday thru Friday to argue with skip Bayless but dam hella of imagination
@@noliakid5045 you were trynna reply to that top comment huh.. this ain’t it bredren
Sit down young blood
“He don’t even know what the middle like, been at the top so long…” Jesus, never thought of it that way lmao
Finally! A die hard kobe fan explained it the best way
it's better to lose in the finals 6 times
@@ricardolozano5356oh brother
Exactly. I’m a die hard Kobe fan but even I came to the conclusion
Thank y’all for keeping 💯 on all y’all podcasts genuine brothers!!!
Mannn drop the full EP already 😂😂 I needs it
I swear to god bruh… been checking this shit every other day since they posted the first clip☠️ it’s been weeks😭
4 mins teaser is actually torture
it’s dropped 💯💯
Need*
“Man, what is you smokin”
Wayne: “Weed”
Neither LeBron or Kobe are better NBA Basketball players than Michael Jordan. Every interview results in: "Who are your Top 3?"' It goes #1) MJ #2) Kobe #3) LeBron. Nobody is better than Mike.
Jordan Kobe that's it
@@dreway4161 Not even Magic or Bird?
He said nobody is better than Air Jordan which is truth.Nobody played basketball better than M.J. and I'm in Detroit and love my team and Isaiah,Chauncey,Sheed!But yeah
@@dreway4161 goat James kid😂🤔 you heard what Wayne said
Lil Wayne is the replacement for Shannon Sharpe on Undisputed thank me later.....
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Hell yeah, give me hours of incoherent rambling, that'd be great TV for anyone with severe brain damage
its a morning show, aint no way lil wayne can get up 7-8am everyday lol
@@user-ht9mh4cm3f Skip already been giving you that for 20 years. Big Perk does it on the other network too
@@nerdheid7306 lol facts
Damn shame what happen to Wayne brain cells
Facts
Not everyone believes what ya’ll believe. Jordanites everywhere.
Bro lol he owns business ventures nd still has some of the best features in the last few years
Jordans days: only 3 players could drop 50 pts...TODAYS NBA: 10 PLAYERS CAN DROP 50 AT...ANY...GIVEN...GAME😮
@@streetclothes4450 omfg ya only say this because he gave bron his respect.
Crazy to think Bron & Wayne never connected
Interesting to hear his take and not speak on Kobe. He made a song called Kobe Bryant which included an excerpt of Lebron saying Kobe is the greatest of all time.
the excerpt said Kobe is the best player in our league/greatest scorer in our league. said nothing about all time
@@dominicharris5489right. Bron was paying homage. He always had the utmost respect for Kobe
@Dominic Harris I think he was talking about Lil Wayne how he put LeBron over Kobe when he did a song about and did it again when he passed away
Lebron payroll runs deep 😂😂😂
Then lil Wayne mention something about lebron money what that has to do with on the court so money separates the best 🤔
DROP THIS EPISODE AHHHHHH
“Kobe doing work for 2. 4. On his shirt he’s the greatest on the court and I’m the greatest on the verse “ Lil Wayne In 2009 lol
“ Going for his fourth ring like it was his first “
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Lmao can ppl opinion not change ?
In 2009 Kobe was greater than Bron, but ya know, time passes.
@pelonmartinez579 peak kobe is as good as anyone even Jordan himself...peak LeBron doesn't hold candle to jordan or kobe
14 years ago
Wayne changes his GOAT pick every few years. Nothing new here lol
Makes since with Bron still playing cause it was mj not too long ago
@@ericwilliams2791 mj been the goat....
Y’all just hate the fact he chose lebron and not Mj
@@kingclutch1978 right
@@ericwilliams2791 He Said Kobe 4 Years Ago 😭
Great take
The things he really choose to care about is amazing
Damn, I was really waiting on him to speak on Kobe.
I’m surprised Wayne said Bron number 1…….
He didn’t mention that LeBron also had super teams when he won on all 3 teams 🤷🏽♂️
@@puncho8799 he had 2 really good teammates on those super teams , mj had 2 really good teammates and kobe had the greatest teammate between those 3 players
@@puncho8799 plus Bron was fmvp every time he won a chip, idk if you got kobe over Bron but yea
@@ericwilliams2791 Jordan, and Kobe was never able to handpick their superstar teammates. The way LeBron has been able too. And let’s not forget he was in the weak east for most of his career.
@@puncho8799 um…mj and Kobe didn’t HAVE to “hand pick” their teams cuz they each had a HOF star on the team where as bron had none for years did it by himself and soon as Bron decided to go out and get him some help, everybody had a problem with it
yooooo Matt was baked lol
Like Wayne said gotta know the ins and outs. Wayne a skateboarder, he don’t play ball & he said he was too young to understand exactly Jordan’s impact & how his game makes him the GOAT.
Wayne switches his answer every year
Just like lebron switch teams
Considering lebron is still playing, it makes sense to have your opinion change
@@kingsleyjackson8287 that’s why he’s the goat😂🤔😂
Only between MJ and Kobe.
Bron has been his Goat for some years now.
@@kingsleyjackson8287 tell me any NBA superstar who switched to different teams and won a ring?
I need some of what he smoking 😂😂😂
Facts. Got him trippin
He sipping lean nd smoking brotha
Bron is the goat
Why just because he has MJ at #2? Lol bruh there's so many in the world who got Jordan at 2. Myself included. You just get outa jail? Where you been bro? 😂😂😂
@@marcusg1021 "you just got out of jail?" LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'm crying these Jordanites get so emotional
Matt Barnes & Stack are the culture and we love y’all for it
Weezy can relate on being on top so long he dnt kno what the middle feel like!!
Was that song for Kobe fake?
chill tf out
Lil Wayne know the deal 🐐
lets be the real...the kids born now will say lebron played against twitch streamers (the same way we say mj played against plumbers)
@@AhmadKhan-ez3zk😂😂😂 facts
That’s the reefer talking 😂😂😂
Can we all agree there was never really a debate 😮💨
Bron is the goat 🐐
@@truthspeaks1813 😮💨🤦🏿♂️
this is why we don't smoke before ranking the goat. SMH
MJ INCELS MAD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 MJ 1-9 without Scottie. Cant even get pass the first round with out Scottie pippen. MJ groupies are delusional 😂. Pippen almost made to the ecf. Jordan can't even get in the playoffs without him. 😂 COPE LEBRON GOAT 😂🤡🤡🤡.
@@coreythomas3633 you act like bron didn't have any helps lmao. they call yall "bronsexual" for a reason.
@taiwangodsheng the point is whether he has superstars or not he was a contender mj kobe or most ppl never could do that foh
You mad an entire CZcams account dedicated to lebron
I respect Wayne’s thoughts on Lebron, but staying with one organization and winning 6 times is just more impressive to me, bron played with soooo much talent on those 3 different championship teams… winning with the same organization is just more impressive
Not really he had a system and organization built around him
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These facts
It’s not impressive at all to have the best roster in the league and playing in the weak 90’s where you couldn’t play zone or double team while there were no players remotely close to MJ’s athleticism. 🥱
Facts
Wayne 100 correct take. Well done tunchi
That's LeGOAT Thing 💪👑🐐
Happy to have been able to enjoy all of their games. I love making MJ, and Kobe fans mad but Kareem has the best resume. He's 7 foot 2 and at 40 the go to guy at the age of 40.
with 6 championships and 10 finals appearances - like MJ and Bron career in one
@@smokejones4484 Learn comprehensive skills please before you start talking. TRUTH is lebron the GOAT. Robert horry 7-0 in the finals. He better than mj too 😂🤡🤡👇👇. MJ was CARRIED by Scottie he never had a winning season without Scottie clown 🤡🤡🤡🤡. MJ had the best superteam in the 90s that won 55 games without him. Bill Russel better than MJ he also have 11 rings. Fmvps didn't exist in the 60s 😂. MJ OVERATED 6-0 record in context? Clyde drexler Portland trail blazzers is not better than 2014 or 2007 spurs. Charles Barkley suns and utah jazz is not better than 2015-2018 warrior clown. MJ faced weak competition and he was CARRIED by Scottie. Lebron the real GOAT carried teams as dolante west as his second option. Lebron played MAJORITY OF 55 PLAYERS. He was
Drafted in 03 😂,same year MJ retired CHOKING With the wizards. Yea the truth is LEBRON THE GOAT End of discussion. 😂🤡🤡🤡😂😂😂😂😂😂. MJ fans really hate reality. Mavs in 2011 SWEPT KOBE and beat KD okc in the wcf. But mj would beat them. 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡😂😂😂👇👇👇👇👇😛😛😛😛😛.
LABRON the GOAT
Nah he doesn't dude has 2 final mvps lol
@@BIGJERSEY908 Bruh. You name one thing and act like that's it. High School state champion in the most competitive coast at that time. They changed the rules in the entire college game. No freshman can play and no dunking. 3 national chips and MVP. Who led the league in scoring their rookie year. Bruh the lol really hollered you don't know what you are taking about at all. Team dynamics have nothing to do with who the best player is. Jerry West put work in against the Celtics and lost. He was still the best player on the court.
Make up your mind before wayne said kobe was better than mj and bron 😂
Stack mad af 😂😂
"What ya all forgot" iykyk
This is pure comedy 🤣
What’s funny 😅 shit hurt he said Bron huh lol
Lil Wayne Trolling. 😂
Exa😂
WHEN IS THE EPISODE DROPPING!?!?
Tomorrow they drop their episodes every Thursday
Somewhere Skip dying inside.
Wayne dedicated an entire song to Kobe and considered him his favorite player and the GOAT. Now he's a Lebron guy.
Exactly Wayne a clown
He has the right to change his mind and opinion.
So what he said that for Kobe.
That was then, this is now
So he can’t change his mind or reevaluate previous thought patterns on who is better ?? Y’all be having no issues with folks putting people ahead of Bron who probably not better but when it comes to Bron y’all be angry.
Get used it. Lebron will have many believers joining him as time goes on. People mature and see the bigger picture as time goes on.
He also has an entire song dedicated to LeBron, Bing James. Get your fuckin pasta right
Kobe rollin over
Well keep rolling 😂
this is the right answer
This was the set up for him to join skip on the desk
Y’all gotta understand everybody ain’t agreeing with y’all 😂😂😂😂
Right honestly when Kobe died, I stopped get upset with these rankings, these great players: MJ, Bron, Magic, Kobe, Kareem, Dream, Shaq Diesel, etc. Ranking them takes away from appreciating their greatness
Jordan is the greatest to me because he had will with skill and had a real sidekick. Jordan and pippin together wasn't gonna b denied. But can't lie kobe and Lamar Odom was a mf to stop when Lamar wanted to play damn.
Goats don’t take shortcuts and retire and comeback
@@YvngGoat_ if my dad died it will probably mess me up too. Mike still is my guy any day. Mike had defensive accomplishments more than LeBron and LeBron played longer so what.
@@YvngGoat_Bron took shortcuts his entire career joining and forming superteam after superteam
Yo I've been trying to find this interview . Anybody know how to find it
Tune appears on All The Smoke🙌🏾🫡🎯🔥
Lil Wayne said exactly what I’ve been saying, LeBron brought three different organization, a championship #Goat
because he ran to three different organizations........you think Jordan or Kobe couldn't have went to another team in their prima and won??!?
@@nelsonrivera764”ran” lmao every team he went to was not competing before he got there. Lakers were in lottery, cavs were in lottery, and Miami missed playoffs. Cut that old tired narrative out
@Donaven Murray ran is accurate..after every loss
@Donaven Murray heat didn't miss playoffs they lost to Boston in first round..
@@fresh2def23231 inaccurate actually. “After every loss” do you watch basketball or just type stuff to get responses on the internet.
From one 🐐 to another! 🤴🏿🦁
I thought Jack had one of them red boots pullin out bud
They all fried up there lol...
People forget how Kobe played real talk that dude is a killer
2011 GOT SWEPT BT MAVS CHOKED A 3-1 LEAD AGAINST STEVE NASH.
@@coreythomas3633 don’t forget to add 5 championships with that playa
@@coreythomas3633Lebron lost 6 finals. Mic drop
KOBE played 20 years in the game just remember that and you’ll claim he is a killer but he ain’t no where close to bron in points scored
Nicca stop it u only saying that cuz he on ur team 😂😂
Guess nobody can have their own opinion anymore huh jordanite 😂😂
You a hater off top 💯 all of MJ fans are haters 💯
You a hater off top 💯 all of MJ fans are haters 💯
@@showtimej2582 “Jordanite” is such a perfect term for these stan-boys, lmaoooo. They swear their beliefs are everyone else’s, and they’re not.
@@showtimej2582 lol
He ain't lying though, Bron is the real goat 💯
Stak wanted him to say Kobe over bron so bad 😂😂
Larry Bird had similar stats to Lebron only major differences are:
•Lebron scored slightly more
• Bird rebounded more
Everything else is close , yeseven passing ability
•Lebron has 1 more Ring , 5 more finals appearances, 1 more MVP, 2 more Finals MVP
•Lebron played 20 Seasons
•Bird played 13 seasons
•Lebron is considered better due to Longevity??
Yes. playing 7 more years at an elite level..having more rings, mvps, finals mvps, all nbas, and all defenses makes Lebron a historically better player than Bird. Not sure what point you were trying to make
@@donavenmurray3463exactly lol
@@donavenmurray3463 playing 7 more years gave Bron more opportunities to get 1 more Ring, 2 more MVPs & finals MVPs, all NBA s… i agree Lebron played at an elite level longer than anyone in NBA history, and i disagree Bron was a better defender, all defense team is great in all but in a cup cake era its a skewed stat…. My point is Longevity boosted his opportunities. Doesnt prove Lebron is better just proves he had more opportunities. Stats prove that they were on the same level , longevity and consistency is in Brons favor
@@donavenmurray3463 why didnt youleave a comment in the Magic Johnson vs Lebron and Only in the Bird vs Lebron ?? 🤔
@@KrispyKleenex365 yeah but longevity is a factor in determining who is a historically better player. Or else I could say d rose is one of the best point guards ever. Also Lebron was definitely a better and more versatile defensive player than Bird. Lebron had multiple years in his prime that he was top 3 in dpoy voting. You can’t just discount that cause of era cause I can say that players now are way more skilled than back then. Bird was a better rebounder and was on par with Bron as a passer but Lebron is a better scorer and defender.
Lil wayne made a fire song about Kobe . That’s all
I’m Lebron no kobe I need 5 rings
Facts!
Wayne opened up my mind to understand how great Bron is.
The goat has spoken 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Wayne has changed.
In an interview from last year he left 2Pac out of his top 5 rappers of all-time when back in the day he had Pac in his top 5.
He put Missy Elliot over Pac which is blasphemy.
And every hardcore Wayne fan knows Kobe was always Wayne's favorite player going back to the Hot Boys days.
Now in 2023 he's putting Lebron over Kobe and MJ, smh.
I mean times changed. Bron is my goat.
His brain is fried 😅😅
@@Qayoh_Renzel But you're a kid.
You never watched MJ or Kobe play.
@@Qayoh_Renzel Look at what's uploaded on your channel. I can tell you're like 16 years old. Of course Bron is your favorite player.
@@RALF0691 lol of course you'd think that. You're not smart enough to understand people can have a difference in opinions so you automatically assume someone is a kid because they don't have Jordan as the goat. And Kobe isn't even in the conversation when it comes to Bron and Jordan.
Wayne literally performed at Lebron’s 21st birthday loool
Stak is boiling inside 😂
Wayne is my goat in the music industry and it pains me to hear him say this especially over Kobe who I know Wayne loves and respects dearly 😭 sorry bro it’s still MJ Kobe Bron to me
Bron the GOAT
@@coreythomas3633 how please explain that
@@coreythomas3633 he is still active so he isn't in my top 10 and when he does retire he probably be 9 or 10 on my list because my top 3 don't change Michael Jeffrey Jordan 1 2 Ervin Magic Johnson 3 Kareem Abdul Jabbar 4 Kobe Bean Bryant 5 outta respect I put Bill Russell 6 Shaquille O'Neal 7 Larry Bird 8 Tim Duncan 9 Isiah Zeke Thomas 10 Hakeem The Dream
AGREED.But,that's his opinion,I don't respect it nor agree with it. LOL.
@@powerbadpowerbad you don’t respect his opinion?😂😂
Lil Wayne also had to sell his rights to his masters....not the best person to get insight about greatness on the court...being great on the court doesnt equivicate to being great on the mike...and vice versa
That a stupid argument. Everyone is selling there masters
So now his opinion doesn't matter because of that clown
i strongly agree
Wayne fugazzi for this
It ain’t hard to win with different teams when u teaming up with other Super Stars. It’s harder to keep winning with 1 team. That’s y Bron always jumps ship cause it’s harder to continue winning with 1 team. But people will listen to Wayne like he make sense cause he famous.
Not if you have one of the greatest organizations and coaching staffs. Jordan had that. I mean its common sense.
thank u for sayin this bro.....people don't get it
Greatone
Wizards not so much 😂
Bra any team and GM can add stars and replace rosters, ya gotta use ya brains and stop tryna follow narratives don’t gotta like em but give up hoping they about to place this dude off the number 1 or 2 position, it’s been the same rankings for years and the few of ya keep tryna act like this is shocking like oh wow they put him at 2 or 1 like they just threw him in out of nowhere, mike and kobe played with top ten players in the league when they played, kobe played with the number 1 player in the league, Lebrons played with top ten players, it’s not rocket science they all had top tier talent
@@JadaSnax People on this video maybe and even that's a stretch. Most people don't like LeBron. 65/35 hate to like ratio I'd say. So bad Udonis Haslem started rocking with him because of the irrational hate he'd see Lebron get on the daily.
Regardless, the "he won because he teamed up with multiple superstars" take said to downplay his accomplishments is common . It's nothing profound.
Jordan = Greatest Career/Legacy 🐐
Kobe = Most Advanced/Skilled Player Of All Time 🐐
LeBron = Best All Around Player Of All Time 🐐
their’s no wrong answer.. it just depends how you look at it 🤷🏻♂️
Bron had the best career, Jordan the greatest winner , Kobe the most driven professional
Bron first athletic billionaire.. nuff said !
jordan not even close
Yea i think this is fair
I like that order
Wow, never thought he’d put anybody over Kobe
Biggest flip flooper out there next to pippin
MJ, Kobe, Bron! I can’t put people over MJ that grew up watching him play. When students become teachers, they teach the next generation. For any athlete to compare themselves to MJ after coming after him is really disrespectful and flattering at the same time I’m sure. Michael changed the game, Kobe, and Bron are both goats in their respective eras, but they haven’t changed the game. MJ hasn’t played in 20 years yet still relevant.
Haha Wayne on one saying that BS 😂
Bron literally the stat goat
Smart man
I think Wayne needs a little refresher and watch Michael Jordan's historic bulls mixtape. His mind will be changed back by minute 2.
Winning with multiple teams imo actually hurts your argument when u have less rings. U have to ask why did he go to different teams? Why he couldn't just keep winning with the team he won with 1st. That answer let's u know why it's far more impressive to win multiple with the same team
The same way MJ didn't win without Scottie hurts MJ's argument ... Could he do it with others? We will never know
@cynreveal which 1 is harder? Doing it with the same person everytime (with some decline) or doing it with 1 person, seeing him decline and go to a better person, see them decline and go do it with a better person again? Honestly
@@jonjon5665Doing it with multiple teams and never having a system is much harder than winning with the best coach of all time. Its like everyone wants to praise MJ for being elevated by the best coach of all time and his system that went on to win 5 more without MJ.
No it doesn't
Noone who replied answered why he left after he won. Bringing up mj b4 he won is a deflection. I'm tlkn bout after winning. Everytime lebron has won and sees he can't win with that squad anymore he leaves to a better situation. It's harder to continue to win with the same people who don't have that hunger. Yall wanna Flip that and give him more credit than those who stayed with their core and won multiple rings together and it's nowhere close to the same or should be respected equally
1. Jordan 2. Bron 3. Kobe
LABRON 1 for me bill Russel 2 Kareem 3.
Now we've got Ja Rule on the line to give us his thoughts on this matter...
This definitely went over a lot of folks heads...best comment on those thread!😂😂
“That n*gga musta pray a million times” 💀
He can get six if he keep building superteams or keep changing things every year I think any great can do that
Facts
Ummm every team changes every year all the time what are u saying g
@@devvyzuko Keep it a buck In LBJ history he has over 100 trades under his belt where Kobe and MJ had 25 and 24 trades they whole career looks like to me this man had a whole lot of help. It's not the same bro. This season alone they got 6 pieces name a team that did that. Don't forget every year and after all star games. Now the media is trying use d lo as and escape goat.
@@truckinndrivin3089 nah everyteam lebron was on regardless who was on the roster he was always the reason they were successful.
@@devvyzuko Ok since you say that 2016 take Kyrie off that finals what happens he blown out again. Take AD off that Lakers run 2020 they won't make it off the playoffs. So when he tossed who was the blame 2011 you know who 2015 they were up 2 to 1 if he so great and he makes everyone better which is lies. 2014 got his ass handed to him by old ass Tim Duncan. He needs shooters around him because he's a streeky shooter. no where elite as a shooter. bully ball to the basket is what he got when that goes his streaky 3's. I guess he'll be a point guard. They always talk about MJ playing short guards what about him who's guarding him on the perimeter.I guess everybody is 6ft 8 huh.2017 and 2018 he won one game. All because he wanted Chris Paul Kyrie heard so he wanted out. The same Kyrie who was scoring 40 plus in tw0 games. Come on bro
Lil Wayne a Millionaire and I don't take anything he says seriously 😂🇯🇲🌴💯
Wayne looks younger 👏
Me: kids wanna see a goat 🐐
Kids: Yes
Me: Press play
Wayne finally came around
Wayne is my favorite rapper by far! But his reason for Bron being the greatest is exactly why I think he isn't. He had to go to different teams to get the 4 championships he got, plus he always had another superstar alongside him. Kobe and Jordan literally stayed loyal and stayed solid and won against whatever teams were being built to beat them. 24, 23 then LeBron are my picks
No one cares bro 🤣🤣 it’s all opinionated y’all get mad that ppl got bron as the goat is sad
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Favorite rapper but he fried fasho 🍳
Old heads have always had alot of bias against LeBron because he came in right after Jordan retired the most beloved American athlete of alltime & Kobe was in his prime and had the whole state of Cali with him, so many people resented his hype from day 1 because they didn't want any new kid to surpass their all time favorites hype.
You can see the bias against Bron because so many people on the internet totally ignore or take for complete granted anything he ever did great and focus 99% of their attention on any mistake. If you take that approach with any human being its gonna look like they suck.
Also people justify this bias by saying Lebron isn't a "killer" . So instead of judging based off reality they judge based off of a made up concept they define in their own minds.
For example Jordan Kobe could shoot 10/35 and miss the game winner and Lebron could go 10/20 and make the game winner and a Lebron hater will be more impressed with MJ and Kobe because at least they failed with "killer mentality".
There's more than 1 way to be great the Jordan/Kobe method may be your favorite but it's not inherently the best way.
Also the goat debate just ends up being disrespectful. There is no goat in a team sport and comparing players stats and accolades from completely different eras doesn't make sense. Different players bring different things to the table and the individuals value to winning is dependent on how their skillset fits within the team to provide what that team needs, and that's also mixed with how well the opponent matches up with that individual, some matchups you can dominate more than others.
For example MJs was great all around but a 2 guard on defense isn't impacting everything on that end nearly as much as a Center like Hakeem protecting the paint and controlling the boards. On offense his greatness skillset was as high volume play maker.
So the Bulls were actually the perfectly constructed team for what Jordan did best (and a really good team independent of him 55-27 with Pippen, Grant, Armstrong Big 3).They were 34-31 5th seed in the East before Jordan returned but that was without Grant their 2nd best player from the year before.
So if Jordan played with a team that was constructed just around good offensive players instead of 2-way like Pippen, Grant, Rodman, Harper, Jordan's team wouldn't be an elite defense with just a great guard defender and on offense either MJ to play how he plays would have to take away shots from his score first teammates, or he would have to shoot alot less because the pace of play in the 90s there's only so many possessions.
Goat Conversation
In 5-10 years
20s Jokic. Giannis/Luka
10s Lebron. Steph/KD
00s Duncan Shaq/Kobe
90s Jordan. Hakeem
80s Magic/Bird. Moses
70s Kareem Dr.J(ABA included)
60s Russell/Wilt (Big 0, West)
Top 20 all time in 5-10 years all will be worthy of goat conversation within their era because they are all incredible and provide different things.
Kobe was entering his prime, but the NBA did not want Kobe as the image of the league due to the Colorado rape allegation. So it was the perfect timing for Lebron to be pushed.
@@cryptoindeed5909 Kobe's case was summer 03 the summer LeBron was drafted but LeBron hype started nationally when he was a Junior so it was during the 3 peat. Jay Bilas said he's by far the best highschool player he'd ever seen , further along than Kobe at the same age. Most scouts felt that way, it wasn't just mythological made up hype to find a new face. Many people genuinely felt that, and it's pretty much confirmed their hype was correct from the fact LeBron averaged 20.9ppg 5 and 6 as a rookie not even near full development when the league scoring average was at an alltime low. The Cavs went from 17-65 to 35-47 an 18 game improvement.
Every other player out of highschool didn't even averaged over 15ppg. Perimeter players under 10ppg.
@juju 32 I get it you are a Lebron fan boy and I don't want to change your mind. Jordan accomplished in 13 years with the bulls more than Lebron had done 20 years recruiting players and managing teams. He is so great he is 4-6 in NBA finals.
@@cryptoindeed5909 because it's a team sport. I'm more of an anti player hater and LeBron has the most hate and baseless claims made against him.
@@cryptoindeed5909 MJ INCELS MAD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 MJ 1-9 without Scottie. Cant even get pass the first round with out Scottie pippen. MJ groupies are delusional 😂. Pippen almost made to the ecf. Jordan can't even get in the playoffs without him. 😂 COPE LEBRON GOAT 😂🤡🤡🤡.
I'd go Kobe, Jordan, LeBron if I'm going with skills. If I'm going accomplishment at the highest level then Jordan, Kobe, LeBron. If it is longevity or peak maintenance and team carries then I'd have the same rank as Wayne.
How the hell is Kobe over LBJ when it comes to accomplishments ?
Kobe isn’t over Lebron in any way when it comes to individual accomplishments. Lebron has more mvps, finals mvps, all nba team selections. Not to mention he has a higher avg career scoring, rebound, and assist numbers.
@@donavenmurray3463and ranks higher in defensive win shares by a mile than Kobe
I am going to be real with you I don’t have Kobe over Bron in none of these things. Also the way we discuss skills seems to just be different scoring ways. Out of these list Bron can definitely do more things all around at higher level than them
I hate how when people express how Lebron James is their goat, everybody wanna dismiss it like let Wayne have his opinion, y’all expect everybody to get on their knees for MJ and Kobe and hate on Bron huh🤦🏽♂️
It’s ridiculous
Ik they hate his greatness for a FACT ik it bothers them that a another NBA player in our era can surpass their favorite basketball player 😂😂😂
Wayne was on All the Smoke 3 years ago and said Kobe was the real goat 🤣 it’s ok still love weezy
If u got either 3 as your goat nobodys mad at u.
Rings are a team spot! Kobe fans won’t tell you he has only 2. FMVP and 1 MVP. With that said BRON is THE GOAT
lol with that being said that means Jordan is the goat with 6 FMVP and 5 MVP's....
@@sizzahandz1Jordan is the FLOAT
I'm kobe fan an dhe only has 2 fmvp and 1 mvp and I'm still taking him over bron without question
What bout All MJs individual accolades?? Minus the 6 rings and judgeBrons vs MJs accolades n accomplishments… All time scoring is based on longevity, MJ retired after his dad wad murdered n then when phil wanted them to retire together ( not tellin mj he was going to LAL) 4 1/2 years MJ lost Yall bron Dick eaters lucky he retired kuz his stats woulda been unreachable by bron . Bron wud only beat MJ in Rebounds n Assists n turnovers totals smh
Okay but MJ was the best player on them 6 championship teams, and you Bronsexuals big cap because y’all never give credit too Kyrie for that 2016 championship or Wade and Bosh for that 2012 or 2013 championship, all you hear is how LeBron carried while playing on Superteams so stop it
Funny how they are rolling weed 😂😂😂
Haters sitting up there wasn’t expecting that answer.
I don't care what Wayne says!
Why listen to a dude that said racism doesn't exist? His mind and thought process is damaged beyond repair. MJ is and always will be the GOAT.
MJ INCELS MAD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 MJ 1-9 without Scottie. Cant even get pass the first round with out Scottie pippen. MJ groupies are delusional 😂. Pippen almost made to the ecf. Jordan can't even get in the playoffs without him. 😂 COPE LEBRON GOAT 😂🤡🤡🤡.
NOW RACISM EXIST ya PETHETIC
Yea Bron jumped ship ring-chasing with 3 different teams. I don't know how that's the justification for Bron at 1. How many hall of famers did he team up with? Sigh.
Put the smoke down, Wayne.
Crazy to me to give the guy so much credit for winning when he got to hand pick his teammates. Barkley could've won if he got to pair himself with 2 other top 10-15 players as well.
@@donela6730 For real. They wanna paint it like it's something noble, and the fans buy that bs. Please...Why don't people have the same energy for Bron as they do for KD? Boston started the superteams, and Bron made it an official thing. Only 1 guy played with Wade, Kyrie, Bosh, Love, AD, Ray Allen, Ilgauskas (yes he was an all star), Westbrook etc...
Even that Cleveland team he took to the finals when they said he had no help had a bunch of dudes shooting lights out. I remember Boobie Gibson couldn't miss that playoffs. Now who ever mentions Boobie? It's all the "king".
Not sure you know what ring chasing is
@@ABG_7 Yeah I'm okay with regular people giving KD shit but the Lebron fans doing it is a joke. They're basically angry because KD beat Lebron at his own game of stacking the deck in his favor. They want to look the other way when Lebron does it but crucify KD when he does it better.
@Beery
Ring chasing is for guys at the end of their career. The Heat were not better than the cavs at the time
Kd was ring chasing
Wayne got a whole Kobe song tho
1.) Air Jordan
2.) Mamba
3.) King James
Now I really respect n appreciate the greatness of lil Wayne....king James 3 different teams!!!!!! Goat!!!!!!!!!!