Why LEBRON Is The Goat, NOT Michael Jordan! | Gilbert Arenas Breakdown

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  • Welcome to Player’s Breakdown, where former NBA star Gilbert Arenas grinds the tape on today’s legends. On this episode, he breaks down LeBron James and why Gilbert believes he is the superior player to Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant.
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  • @whistlesports
    @whistlesports  Před 3 lety +77

    Check out our NEW episode with Gil on DAMIAN LILLARD! czcams.com/video/oOdjW1Qp2Cs/video.html

    • @desomusicinc
      @desomusicinc Před 3 lety +5

      😂😂😂💀 I couldn’t make it through that. This man said there strategy against Lebron was to leave a nba player open 😂😂😂. You talking about the same Lebron who’s arguably the best all time at finding the open man and with a great pass. I can’t 🤦🏾‍♂️ Then this man said they left Damon Jones the same Damon Jones that can only hit the OPEN THREE😂 You right about one thing mj ain’t never played against competition that trash. Going into the game thinking you can’t win with the worst game plan of all time lmaaaooo. I’m done

    • @antuanleach6762
      @antuanleach6762 Před 2 lety +2

      @@desomusicinc I love how we act like mid 80s and early 90s ball was the best thing smoking...smh...Jordan's own team was coming in out of shape, so that let's you know the state of "competition" the league had. It's a reason NBA was needing to raise it's profile.

    • @mrl2029
      @mrl2029 Před 2 lety +1

      @@desomusicinc he's so delusional bru. MJ is emperor

    • @timhinton5672
      @timhinton5672 Před rokem +1

      This dude done loss his mind

    • @timhinton5672
      @timhinton5672 Před rokem

      Man Jordan did that his whole career...I can't believe he just said that

  • @Area-5l
    @Area-5l Před 3 lety +1665

    I want this man on undisputed and breaking this all down in front of skip and Shannon just sitting back nodding his head.

    • @Frankie2259
      @Frankie2259 Před 3 lety +15

      Nodding his head and sippin that milkshake or whatever ahah

    • @OnewYork
      @OnewYork Před 3 lety +19

      Gilbert has already made his appearance on Club Shannon
      (skip not invited)

    • @chiefdymondwolf6764
      @chiefdymondwolf6764 Před 3 lety +34

      Him breaking this down don't make him right about it. Greatest of this era Lebron can have all day, he earned that. But it's impossible to have a "goat" because the style & rules of the game keeps changing. The greatest of the era is the best we can hope to get that actually makes sense!💯💯💯

    • @OnewYork
      @OnewYork Před 3 lety +9

      @@chiefdymondwolf6764
      # LebrongoatofthisERA

    • @chiefdymondwolf6764
      @chiefdymondwolf6764 Před 3 lety +3

      @@OnewYork fasho!

  • @teddyhart2913
    @teddyhart2913 Před 2 lety +720

    Only Gil can explain his take on Lebron being the GOAT and the comment section isnt even that upset about it lol

    • @wv8071
      @wv8071 Před 2 lety +24

      I liked Arenas as a player, but he can only sell this garbage to fans of The Choke.

    • @oof3479
      @oof3479 Před 2 lety +72

      @@wv8071 And you guys only follow other haters, Keep kissing Jordan

    • @wv8071
      @wv8071 Před 2 lety +19

      @@oof3479 Ladies and Gentlemen.....I give you "THE GOAT" Michael Air Jordan!

    • @oof3479
      @oof3479 Před 2 lety +28

      @@wv8071 Yeah hes def top 5 but I have a diff opinion just as you and I respect just don’t hate on Bron for no reason

    • @wv8071
      @wv8071 Před 2 lety +13

      @@oof3479 I got every reason to have a lack of respect for your boy. His whole persona is fake.

  • @IrvInTheGym
    @IrvInTheGym Před 2 lety +86

    You know your the 🐐 when you telling your opponents where they’re supposed to be for their own plays 🤣

    • @mj23goat3
      @mj23goat3 Před 3 měsíci

      You know you _ain't_ the GOAT when you've been to The Finals nine times and lost SIX of them.

    • @ihatecrowbars3572
      @ihatecrowbars3572 Před měsícem

      @@mj23goat3Out of those 6 losses only one of them was actually his fault. Rest can be chalked up to barely no help exempt 2016 even though besides Kyrie, only Tristian Thompson was scoring double digits. Was the only one showing up against the Spurs on the cavs, and him and Wade were the only ones stepping up when they won a ring. Stop it.

    • @mj23goat3
      @mj23goat3 Před měsícem

      @@ihatecrowbars3572Oops. I actually misspoke. It's TEN times and lost six of them. And when you're supposedly the GOAT, it's ALWAYS your fault that your team lost. Which is why he AIN'T the GOAT.

  • @divadoll606
    @divadoll606 Před rokem +25

    Finally, someone that knows the game, played the game with LeBron on the Court, and showed us exactly what was going on.

    • @Rctfy1
      @Rctfy1 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Not only that, he played against Jordan as well

    • @user-cn8nu6lq4w
      @user-cn8nu6lq4w Před 5 měsíci

      ........you're literally Gen-Z trash.

  • @Zangetsu196
    @Zangetsu196 Před 3 lety +105

    “Soon as i get on the court im chuckin” 😭😭😭

  • @Kevin-zc3ej
    @Kevin-zc3ej Před 3 lety +2052

    I swear Gilbert arenas is the best analyser I’ve ever seen. So clear. So underrated. He needs his own channel on TV.

    • @BRAWLIC215
      @BRAWLIC215 Před 3 lety +38

      He has a podcast. And knowledge is shared

    • @The_favorite_Uncle
      @The_favorite_Uncle Před 3 lety +32

      Fr hes an actual hooper, and actually knows the game instead of bringing stats up

    • @favreFOURLife21
      @favreFOURLife21 Před 3 lety +44

      Only reason why he’s not is because he talks about the actual game and that’s not appealing to the masses...all ESPN and Fox analysts either don’t know what their talking about or they dumb themselves down for the casuals

    • @imkotable
      @imkotable Před 3 lety +49

      The same guy who said Luka was not gonna make it in the NBA? Yeah, super great "analyser".

    • @The_favorite_Uncle
      @The_favorite_Uncle Před 3 lety +14

      @@imkotable lol gilbert can get a little crazy sometimes with the physics and athleticism. I bet if Larry bird came in as a 19 year old euro player in the nba today. Then gilbert would say the same. Also about jerry west and other players not as physically impressive guys even tho guys like bird and luka are 6 8, 6 9, 6 10. But yes that was quite the bad take.

  • @salem9341
    @salem9341 Před rokem +13

    Lebron knowledge of the game in a critical situation is surreal, he demand his own coach to make adjustment during the game and in most cases they end up winning the game due to his input

  • @pureuncutlakers1010
    @pureuncutlakers1010 Před 2 lety +33

    Arenas is a smart, independent thinker. I always though the same about the Lebron vs. Jordan argument. Jordan had an early Lebron Cavs team in the 80s and he went out in the first round. I wish the Lakers would bring him in as an assistant coach.

  • @dabab156
    @dabab156 Před 3 lety +241

    Gil is my coach and this is exactly how he teaches and tells us at practice, even something as small as a hedge or layup we need something else to make it perfect...it pretty dope

    • @KingWale94
      @KingWale94 Před 2 lety +11

      U lucky to have Gil as a coach, mans is gifted

    • @jlove1945
      @jlove1945 Před 2 lety +5

      Your coach brother i thought u were a rapper

    • @bradyhicks9252
      @bradyhicks9252 Před 2 lety +1

      Was your name?

    • @unspokenrespect
      @unspokenrespect Před 2 lety

      @@jlove1945 😂😂😂😂

    • @user-cn8nu6lq4w
      @user-cn8nu6lq4w Před 5 měsíci

      Condolences on your career. I think we both know you're not pro.

  • @c.x.661
    @c.x.661 Před 3 lety +1071

    This was such a deep and specific topic about brons game. It’s crazy

    • @uncleiroh7967
      @uncleiroh7967 Před 3 lety +30

      He even asked to be an intern assistant coach for the Lakers. Free of charge 😂

    • @MrAlvarez23
      @MrAlvarez23 Před 3 lety +23

      I hope he gets it. He's going to be a great coach

    • @mrblend
      @mrblend Před 3 lety +7

      literally said nothing new for us watching LBJ since highschool

    • @uncleiroh7967
      @uncleiroh7967 Před 3 lety +11

      @Michael Jordan 😂 jordan ain't making those cavs teams better than lebron that's pure cap

    • @uncleiroh7967
      @uncleiroh7967 Před 3 lety +8

      @Michael Jordan mj quit on his team, the league and the fans twice...

  • @TheYardSaleRobber
    @TheYardSaleRobber Před 3 lety +82

    A strong argument indeed by this gentleman 👏. However, I politely disagree.

    • @jeffknight9292
      @jeffknight9292 Před 2 lety +1

      Respectfully

    • @razgaros
      @razgaros Před 2 lety +2

      Same. He just isn't the same type of player. He is a team first kinda of guy. Jordan is a win first kinda of guy. Lebron tries to elevate bad to average players. Jordan didn't waste his time with that and won 6. Kobe didn't waste his time with that and won 5. Lebron won 4. Maybe if he wins five you could reconsider the arguement but at this point it's guetting too late in his career.

    • @TheYardSaleRobber
      @TheYardSaleRobber Před 2 lety +1

      @@razgaros Michael Jordan did make thoae around him better. However, Lebron does not have that winning mentality that Kobe or MJ had. All these flops and walking out of games early are things that keep lebron from reaching MJ. MJ wanted to win at all costs, Lebron gives up when things are bad.

    • @chrisvu7260
      @chrisvu7260 Před 2 lety +10

      @@TheYardSaleRobber but Lebron's still the GOAT, too bad for Mike and Kibe, they tried tho

    • @TheYardSaleRobber
      @TheYardSaleRobber Před 2 lety

      @@chrisvu7260 He could be the GOAT but, he is running out of time and he is ruinning his legacy. If he keeps leaving games early and being a man child, then he will be remembered for that only.

  • @robertfarrar9564
    @robertfarrar9564 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Gilbert is exactly on point. Finally someone giving a true analysis without afraid of the backlash from the Bird jock holders and MJ FANATICS.

  • @themindofsam
    @themindofsam Před 3 lety +459

    Even though I disagree with Gil, I love how he broke down his reasoning for his decision. Very well detailed.

    • @natescarr3685
      @natescarr3685 Před 2 lety +98

      Yup he Gives the best analysis based off of fact context and situations and not bias emotional childhood memories

    • @godlyform974
      @godlyform974 Před 2 lety +12

      True I really like hearing him talk about the game of basketball he really know his stuff. He hit it right on the head with Lebron being the goat

    • @baylenjessup4719
      @baylenjessup4719 Před 2 lety +12

      These arguments against Jordan don’t add up. Arenas only played against 40 year old Wizards Jordan with a severed finger and bad knees. Different eras so can’t compare. He acts like Jordan only knew how to score. Gimme a break! Jordan has ten times more sensational big moments in the playoffs. The public and even NBA players today pick Jordan and it isn’t even remotely close. Yeah, Arenas is a smart guy,huh? So smart he brought guns to the locker room to put heat on another player. Downright stupid!

    • @kordaeklein4778
      @kordaeklein4778 Před 2 lety +51

      @@baylenjessup4719 he was a mutiple first roud exist in the playoffs they do add up u will bring him bringing guns into the arguement? yall mj fans will do anything stfu and look at the stats :)

    • @devinsmart1547
      @devinsmart1547 Před 2 lety +7

      @@baylenjessup4719 oh you big mad😂😂😂

  • @jameslighthouse
    @jameslighthouse Před 3 lety +331

    Freak in nature + High IQ + Unselfish = Greatness

    • @phucjack1334
      @phucjack1334 Před 2 lety +2

      The Goat never calling himself Goat idiot, everybody know that Jordan is Goat but Lebron is jst calling himself Goat but no one admit lol, this is the link czcams.com/video/VDV2qe7uUMo/video.html

    • @Bungycb
      @Bungycb Před 2 lety +5

      @@phucjack1334 only an idlot would consider a choke artist like jorfraud to be the goat

    • @phucjack1334
      @phucjack1334 Před 2 lety

      @@Bungycb Everything u said is jst tell u r an idiot and jeolously, come on kid if u ask ur mom who is the greatest basketball player of all time the answer will always Jordan ok

    • @Bungycb
      @Bungycb Před 2 lety +7

      @@phucjack1334 when I asked your mom who her greatest lover was she always said me

    • @Bungycb
      @Bungycb Před 2 lety +5

      @@phucjack1334 when I asked the person who gave birth to you who her greatest love was she said me

  • @georgepng6814
    @georgepng6814 Před 2 lety +49

    I'm a Lebron fan, I may not agree that LBJ is the best ever but I do enjoy hearing bron's opponents or teammates talk about him. It feels more credible because they stepped on the floor with him, it's not an unbiased opinion because it's really a real story or experience. I'm excited about how would the documentaries be after he retired.

    • @TB12Pats
      @TB12Pats Před rokem +4

      I’m not even that big of a lebron fan and I cannot wait for them to make a documentary about him once he retires. Man deserves his own last dance documentary.

    • @carlosa9467
      @carlosa9467 Před rokem +6

      He’s the best ever and I think he’ll get another ring to change your mind

    • @1DJ_416
      @1DJ_416 Před rokem +2

      @@carlosa9467 It won’t matter what lebron does he’s hated and MJ is loved. Lebron can 3peat win 3 more mvps and finals mvps, and he’ll still be ranked below jordan by most people

    • @lizardking9010
      @lizardking9010 Před rokem

      Definitely top 5

    • @ShaDusK
      @ShaDusK Před rokem +2

      He is number 1 if you disregard your childhood heroic moments, and the brand Jordan. From a basketball player stand point that plays all 5 positions, yes LeBron is more versatile and skilled overall than Jordan.

  • @darrenwalters9886
    @darrenwalters9886 Před 2 lety +82

    It's fascinating to hear another professional break things down. I've always thought Lebron has the most raw physical talent of those three contenders, and I can't imagine having to be in front of that freight train of a man night in, night out. While we are Monday morning quarterbacking, I also thought his jump shot mechanic looked a little off, which might hinder him in the long run. Sure, he can still score prodigiously, but compared to MJ and KB's silky smooth motion, I thought it was lacking.
    But on the whole, it sure looks like Lebron is emerging as a true GOAT possibility.

    • @Mercurial.
      @Mercurial. Před 2 lety +6

      U talking about physical power with IQ of Lebron.
      We talking of Heart, Mindset and SKILLSET when talking of MJ and Kobe!

    • @edobwoy
      @edobwoy Před rokem +9

      If you also look at the positions he plays...he can play PG, SF, PF, SG and this season for the first time he played C. He is a multi skilled player who can switch when it is necessary unlike Kobe or MJ who played shooting guard and defense for most of their careers. Meanwhile, Lebron also plays defense.
      You can't be the greatest civil engineer for doing bridges only while another civil engineer has done bridges, water structures, hotels etc...if that makes sense
      Gilbert made a good point about scoring. Lebron could score 60 and still lose a game. That's why lakers stopped making playoffs even though Kobe was scoring many points until his retirement. It takes a TEAM effort because it's 5 players. You need others to contribute.
      MJ was successful because Pippen, Rodman were consistent too

    • @russelbritt5134
      @russelbritt5134 Před rokem

      @@edobwoy BUT HE IS A AWFUL PERSON

    • @air2373
      @air2373 Před rokem +2

      We’ll find out few years after he retires. I don’t know why but something is telling me not only he won’t be mentioned as the greatest, but he wouldn’t be mentioned at all. Like Kobe Bryant before his death. And I’m pretty sure on the platform they will have another kid aiming at Jordan and replacing him.

    • @air2373
      @air2373 Před rokem +3

      @@edobwoy Lebron stop playing defense after 2014 and he was great defender for 2,3 years not more. Jordan was consistently great defender throughout his career with the Bulls.

  • @yaboytl
    @yaboytl Před 3 lety +230

    Skip Bayless has left the chat.....lol

    • @coldwolf7014
      @coldwolf7014 Před 3 lety +8

      Skip Bayless always says when a player praises Lebron they have beef with Jordan. Well what about Gilbert? He lost to Lebron and they aren’t best friends for what I know so what can Skip use for this? Lol nothing 😂

    • @Jlc754
      @Jlc754 Před 3 lety +2

      Facts

    • @jaydenvert9168
      @jaydenvert9168 Před 2 lety +1

      @@coldwolf7014 I know he spit nothing but facts, most other players, *PAUL PIERCE ESPECIALLY,* would’ve just hated on him without acknowledging how great he is

  • @CitizenoftheWorld1
    @CitizenoftheWorld1 Před 3 lety +245

    I was a huge Wizards fan when they had the Big Three (Arenas, Jameson, Butler). So naturally I was a LeBron hater. But seeing him single handedly whoop my team then the Pistons the way he did made me appreciate his greatness. I think he was only 22 at that time

    • @eazyduzit-tr3nx
      @eazyduzit-tr3nx Před 3 lety +16

      He “single handedly” whooped “your team” with no Arenas/Butler that year, and then an old Pistons team with no Ben Wallace/coach Brown. Have a feeling you weren’t born yet or were too young to remember.

    • @CitizenoftheWorld1
      @CitizenoftheWorld1 Před 3 lety +56

      @@eazyduzit-tr3nx I was high school so I remember enough. He still whooped those teams so why make excuses? You just proved that you're older than me and still a LeBron hater 😅😅😅 I thought hating celebrities was something only teens do. Looks like you still got some maturing to do 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @eazyduzit-tr3nx
      @eazyduzit-tr3nx Před 3 lety +12

      @@CitizenoftheWorld1 ehh seems like you don’t, a Wizards “fan” who doesn’t even bring up no Arenas/Butler in that series. Hilarious. I just find it odd how LBJ fans are quick to bring up injuries when he loses to certain teams to excuse his losses but we can’t do the same against him?
      Also, how is me telling exactly what happened hating? Just say you’re a Bron groupie pretending to be a Wizards fan & that my comment offended you bc you’re that much of a Bron fan.

    • @CitizenoftheWorld1
      @CitizenoftheWorld1 Před 3 lety +57

      @@eazyduzit-tr3nx Wow very insightful.....All I said was he's a great player so that automatically makes me a LeBron groupie and a fake Wizards fan 🤦🏽‍♂️ Just admit you're a hater, ok boomer? I don't even think he's the GOAT, so you're wasting your time with me 👋

    • @eazyduzit-tr3nx
      @eazyduzit-tr3nx Před 3 lety +9

      @@CitizenoftheWorld1 oh look the victim card...and all I said was that the Wizards were missing Arenas/Butler two very key important players. Just keeping it fair is all. LBJ fans love to point out injuries he had with teammates when he loses but we can’t do it for other teams he beat?
      I called you a Bron groupie bc of how defensive you got for him and how little you cared for your teams injuries. I call it how I see it but whatever, I’m done here •shrugs•

  • @dennisdimaculangan2800
    @dennisdimaculangan2800 Před 2 lety +4

    Very good point. Very good analysis.
    Nice job! Gilbert😊👍

  • @rodrickwimberly3245
    @rodrickwimberly3245 Před rokem +12

    Though I am 100% a Jordan as the GOAT advocate, I don't think that I have ever heard a more cogent argument for Lebron as the GOAT. He's still wrong, but I have more respect for the argument after watching this 😄

    • @dru2396
      @dru2396 Před rokem +2

      @Rodrick Wimberly
      I agree with you. Am not a crazy Jordan fan. Jordan is the goat....the only possible player close to Jordan is kobe Bryant ....

    • @CMXR
      @CMXR Před rokem +4

      @@dru2396 in the playstyle maybe but lebron's better than kobe in everything except kobe has 1 more ring

    • @unspeakablyawesomebros3392
      @unspeakablyawesomebros3392 Před rokem

      @@dru2396 Kobe is great but he isn’t on the same level as Jordan or Lebron. His play style was like Jordan and he was certainly more skilled than MJ but he lacked the 48 inch vert and wasn’t nearly the shooter that MJ was.

    • @grubgamer8383
      @grubgamer8383 Před rokem

      Nobody can be WRONG in this GOAT debate, Jordan and LeBron are good but I think LeBron is greater.

    • @luminousrxk7288
      @luminousrxk7288 Před rokem

      @@grubgamer8383 how so?

  • @gamilucena3401
    @gamilucena3401 Před 3 lety +110

    gsw fans: who is this fella?
    oldies: the original no look three😤

    • @areoinstylz
      @areoinstylz Před 3 lety +4

      Larry Bird is the original bro....and the 1st

    • @runtherace189
      @runtherace189 Před 2 lety

      Chris Mullin you mean.

    • @TBtheking405216
      @TBtheking405216 Před 2 lety +2

      GSW fans know exactly who he is... he started his career with the warriors

  • @YesPlease357
    @YesPlease357 Před 3 lety +703

    "i think that we were spoiled by jordan". i think so too. i was so blinded in the idea of killer mentality.

    • @OnewYork
      @OnewYork Před 3 lety +48

      👍 blinded by that street ball mentality of yesterYEAR, which has no place in "this era" of NBA

    • @erictolbert4769
      @erictolbert4769 Před 3 lety +12

      Killer mentality is many faucets of the game. # jordanfan

    • @BallSoHard78
      @BallSoHard78 Před 3 lety +45

      Dude makes good points but Jordan will always be the GOAT. If you haven't watched Jordan's career you will never ever understand why people call Jordan GOAT. Jordan dominated the NBA when he played. They changed the rules because of him. People who watch lebron will always feel he's the GOAT and i understand why because that's all they know. Its nothing Lebron has done or continue to do that impresses people who watched Jordan's career for the fact we can actually compare them. We got a chance to watch both of their careers. There is no comparison. They are two different players. Lebron is the best of this generation and he should be. Look at how weak the Nba is now compared to when Jordan played. Its sad. Jordan greatness is on a completely different level. Jordan had no weakness in his game. Its disrespectful to compare anyone to him. Jordan will forever be the True GOAT. Accept it.

    • @OnewYork
      @OnewYork Před 3 lety +106

      @@BallSoHard78
      the NEW era NBA aint weak, they play the game the RIGHT WAY ..
      the OLD ERA brought that "playing on concrete, in the park" slug fest, disrespectful type BS ..
      which is exactly why the NBA rules in "this era" changed for the better ...
      out with the "old"
      in with the NEW
      you oldheads got grandchildren 😂
      go sit down, YOU had your turn

    • @OnewYork
      @OnewYork Před 3 lety +9

      #LebrongoatofourERA

  • @derrickburrows8511
    @derrickburrows8511 Před rokem +7

    I love gil because he's doesn't let his emotions get in the way of his logic

  • @derrickscott9469
    @derrickscott9469 Před 2 lety +16

    Jordan vs Lebron, I'd rather have LeBron as the franchise centerpiece but acknowledge that strong arguments can made for both.
    LeBron vs Kobe isn't a real debate. LeBron is a much better player (bigger, stronger, more efficient, better decision making, can do more with less etc.). Kobe was undeniably great but at a tier below GOAT consideration.

    • @devinsmart1547
      @devinsmart1547 Před 2 lety

      Everything you said in the lebron kobe debate can bd applied to lebron jordan. Kobe was a carbon copy

    • @derrickscott9469
      @derrickscott9469 Před 2 lety +2

      @@devinsmart1547 Kobe replicated Jordan's game but was only about 85 percent as good.

  • @ThePeaklove
    @ThePeaklove Před 3 lety +684

    BEST EXPLANATION EVER!!

  • @aitlin
    @aitlin Před 3 lety +33

    Man he was probably right about Jordan on that Cavs team. Not like Mike can't make his teammates better, but like they need to want it too. And I don't think most of that team would like to improve much more while being at the bottom of the play-offs.

    • @kealunleday3948
      @kealunleday3948 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Intergalactic facts bron had bums whose names we would never never know outside of a 1 year zeke in Cleveland. Jay leave bj armstrong is an all star pip 3 conference appearances. Cleveland players 0

  • @kennthashby6351
    @kennthashby6351 Před rokem +1

    That was the best breakdown on this I've heard so far very well done 👍

  • @kfh2577
    @kfh2577 Před 2 lety

    Great video 🔥

  • @VFVT101
    @VFVT101 Před 3 lety +41

    The sad part about this that Arenas didn't diss MJ or Kobe. He just simply sad that LBJ is always playing with his teammates in mind. Whereas MJ & Kobe would just shoot. Even in the days of the Bulls being great, Pippen ran the team and MJ was just great. Ask all the Bulls teammates and they will tell you that it was Pippen that made them work well.

    • @SNIPEonSIGHT
      @SNIPEonSIGHT Před 3 lety +2

      Crazy bse when Jordan left Pippen had one good season and the next year he quit on the team bse he wasn’t wasn’t chosen for the last shot but kukoc was and nailed it. Pippen had the team out of playoffs and Jordan came bck and lead them to the playoffs but lost to magic.

    • @paisan79_13
      @paisan79_13 Před rokem +2

      I've always given Lebron his proper respect. I think MJ is the greatest but I believe Lebron will get more respect after he's done playing.
      However, this notion that MJ played on this bomb squad, all stars everywhere, Pippen ran the team, etc and then on the other hand Lebron carries everyone, it's all him. It's nonsense. Lebron has always had help and alot of it at that.

    • @user-cn8nu6lq4w
      @user-cn8nu6lq4w Před 4 měsíci +2

      Fairly stupid take, given Jordan still averaged 5.3 assists per game.
      Sure, Jordan shot more at 22.9 attempts per game vs. 19.7, but that's only because LeBron can't shoot.

    • @Kedvin7
      @Kedvin7 Před 4 měsíci

      @@user-cn8nu6lq4w You know assists are last passes right? And don't show the reality of what happens on the court? Watch the games please don't be a box score watcher.

    • @mj23goat3
      @mj23goat3 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@user-cn8nu6lq4w Not to mention that MJ (and Kobe) were _shooting_ guards. Their entire job is to SHOOT. By the way, Money is 3rd all-time in assists per game among pure SGs.

  • @Banned4Life
    @Banned4Life Před 3 lety +175

    Apparently, when you're being guarded by 4 players and you pass to one of the best 3-point shooters in the league completely open at one of the most efficient spots on the floor, it's debatable whether or not it was the right play to make? Seriously, that is one of the most indicting moments in Bron's career to prove how much bias there is against the dude.
    Three members of the opposing team are right there; Crowder stepped in the way, and a fifth is in the paint - the entire opposing team is within a few feet of him to make sure he doesn't score, and he finds a Finals record scoring 3-point shooter so open he could take a nap before shooting, and there is still criticism?

    • @micahbell7840
      @micahbell7840 Před 2 lety +24

      Agree man. Haters are just hatin

    • @DanceswithHyenas
      @DanceswithHyenas Před 2 lety +31

      It was the right play. It was the highest probability play. Most importantly, it was the sort of play that is the Lebron way. I am glad that he doesn't try to be like Jordan or Kobe. He is LeBron and the choices that he makes on court are the reason why he is so special.

    • @StraightLEFTfromPAC
      @StraightLEFTfromPAC Před 2 lety +10

      There’s no hate. The Lebron system is great. But Magic was a tad better at running it. 5 out of 11 years is better. They both need killers to the left and right. It’s a good enough system. But there’s another system proven in Chicago and LA but that takes a different type of cat.

    • @Banned4Life
      @Banned4Life Před 2 lety +12

      @@StraightLEFTfromPAC But that's a reasonless argument here. The original point was that LeBron made the absolute right play. Any pass to Kerr or Grant by MJ, if missed, would be a blemish to any commoner idiot fan. Bron made the correct call with more defenders on him than any player ever sees, and that's a fact.

    • @StraightLEFTfromPAC
      @StraightLEFTfromPAC Před 2 lety +4

      @@Banned4Life Never said it was the wrong play. His success rate doing this is ok. But don’t say he’s a killer, ‘consistently’ takes over games when it’s close, never shrinks under big lights, on the line. Don’t say that tho. He’s really good, with a really good system. That’s it. For ex. over 50% of Federer’s majors came under close quarters. He pulled through. Great players don’t fold or rarely do. James has pulled through ok and enough with the pass first mentality. They were ok. I ain’t gonna hype higher than what it really was.

  • @JoeAse
    @JoeAse Před 2 lety +31

    Gilbert Arenas always striked me as an intelligent guy. I like the way he expressed his perspective here. I still say it's Jordan all day but it's imperative to listen him here.

    • @jessepetite2468
      @jessepetite2468 Před 2 lety

      Intelligent compared to a pile of 💩👍🏿

    • @jpavila5053
      @jpavila5053 Před 2 lety

      @@jessepetite2468 compapre to you keyboard warrior. You're nothing compared to Arenas

    • @ethantampus6021
      @ethantampus6021 Před 2 lety

      @@jessepetite2468 that’s your opinion but Arenas gave solid and objective points here with no bias. not some ESPN opinionated responses. my heart will say MJ but that’s my heart and there’s obvious bis, Arenas is using his brain here which is impressive considering he grew up with Jordan and it’s easy to be blinded by nostalgia but props to him for putting his biases aside and actually making an objective analysis. he actually got me thinkin twice here

    • @martin32074
      @martin32074 Před 2 lety

      @@ethantampus6021 different people have different perspective about the greatness. MJ has the most impact on basketball culture. Almost Everybody knows MJ. He is more popular than anyone in the world. Greatness is not just about being good at sport but what impact does the person bring to the sport and people around the world. Looking back all these great people in history. Every one of them impacted our society or culture in different way. That’s called greatness. The goat. LBJ might be the goat in next 20 years when next generation know only about lbj and he would be bringing more influence to the generation but until then , no lbj is nowhere near MJ.

  • @nunayobiz
    @nunayobiz Před rokem +16

    Best, most accurate GOAT assessment I've heard!

    • @roadrage9191
      @roadrage9191 Před rokem

      It is bad as he assumes a lot about Jordan.
      Like Jordan was not focussed on getting the top score at all, he was focussed on winning the game as a team.
      That is how you win NBA titles, as a team. And Jordan won 6 as he was such a good team player.

  • @MistahUnknown
    @MistahUnknown Před 3 lety +165

    Fans: Score 30PPG
    LeBron: No, A dozen NBA Finals.

    • @lr44810
      @lr44810 Před 3 lety +26

      But only 4 Wins..

    • @michaelwoods6272
      @michaelwoods6272 Před 3 lety +29

      @@lr44810 Yes because his competition is adequate.

    • @edrushhh
      @edrushhh Před 3 lety +12

      @@michaelwoods6272 His competition wasn’t adequate to get to the finals tho

    • @bilindameen6302
      @bilindameen6302 Před 3 lety +4

      @@edrushhh In '07 and 18?

    • @edrushhh
      @edrushhh Před 3 lety +13

      @@bilindameen6302 What great team did he faced thoses years before reaching the finals?

  • @akremsuadik5334
    @akremsuadik5334 Před 3 lety +244

    Man, this is everything ive been preaching but in a condensed self explanatory way !!!!! Agent 0 is forever the realest man

  • @chriskoia3266
    @chriskoia3266 Před rokem

    Awesome watch loved it

  • @TB-tp2dh
    @TB-tp2dh Před 2 lety

    Nice breakdown perspective.

  • @Bigproductions02
    @Bigproductions02 Před 3 lety +513

    This man is a basketball genius

    • @dfkgym4400
      @dfkgym4400 Před 3 lety

      @@sij809 and to be honest I think he deserves it.

    • @louburgunde9719
      @louburgunde9719 Před 3 lety +13

      He's not a basketball genius because there's a lot of basketball geniuses that would disagree with him...

    • @louburgunde9719
      @louburgunde9719 Před 3 lety +3

      @@dfkgym4400 you don't know much about the game of basketball

    • @iammikalanthony
      @iammikalanthony Před 3 lety +2

      @@louburgunde9719 such as?

    • @iammikalanthony
      @iammikalanthony Před 3 lety +15

      @@louburgunde9719 Genius is not confined to one point of view. Picasso can be a genius and paint COMPLETELY different than the genius that is Rembrandt. Just because some basketball geniuses have different points of view doesn't mean Arenas is not a genius.

  • @gabrieldortahernandez8426
    @gabrieldortahernandez8426 Před 3 lety +33

    Pretty impressive analysis, he defined LeBron James as player and where does his greatness come from.

  • @bizzyrizzy4075
    @bizzyrizzy4075 Před 2 lety +5

    You don’t win 6 chips, 6 NBA finals MVPs, 5 MVPs, average 37, win DPOY and MVP in one year, also average 41 ppg in the 93 finals, hold the NBA record of 69 points in a playoff game, average 43 against the Larry Bird Celtics, win 10 scoring titles( more than Curry, Durant, harden, Kobe, Lebron, AI, TMAC etc), never lose 2 games in a row the first 3 peat, take two retirements come back and win, have 9 All Defensive NBAs, win the slam dunk , win 3 straight with only one other all star, and not be the GOAT nor Kobe or Lebron can say they did those things oh and guess what he did that in a 13 year span🤷🏾‍♂️ and no I’m not an old head I used to be be a Bron fanboy and I’m 22

    • @noahhanft7982
      @noahhanft7982 Před 2 lety

      Jordan won 6 titles cuz the Bulls had 2 top 5 players in an era that didn’t have super teams.
      The Spurs and Warriors are better than any team Jordan ever beat.

    • @noahhanft7982
      @noahhanft7982 Před 2 lety

      Also MJ (and Kobe) got all defense teams cuz they were guards. So much easier getting it as a guard than a forward.

    • @luminousrxk7288
      @luminousrxk7288 Před rokem

      @@noahhanft7982 actually no. How is it easier to get for a guard?? You could argue the opposite. And no Jordan did not have a top 5 player every single year he won the chip Especially in 1998 when pippen was hurt all playoffs.

  • @Taj_Rahine
    @Taj_Rahine Před 2 lety +17

    Good point Gilbert, Jordan is going to take that last shot every time...except for when he passes it to Paxson, Kerr, or Wennington so they can take the last shot. But other than that, great point from a brilliant basketball mind.

    • @xaviervega468
      @xaviervega468 Před rokem +5

      If he has the 1v1, absolutely. But Jordan didn;t force up last shots against double and triple teams. He left that nonsense to Kobe.

  • @ingemarsmith4154
    @ingemarsmith4154 Před 3 lety +347

    This is literally THE BEST LeBron James take ever.

    • @ingemarsmith4154
      @ingemarsmith4154 Před 3 lety +18

      @Michael Jordan jordan couldn't get out of the first round of the playoffs until he got Pippen on the squad

    • @Mir2Nastyy
      @Mir2Nastyy Před 3 lety +3

      @@ingemarsmith4154 jordan never lost the finals not once is that not what a goat would do? Never lose when it really counts. You can’t use Lebron constantly going to the finals win or lose as a great accomplishment but overlook Jordan also going 6 times and never losing even 1. How is that not what a goat is never losing the big game?

    • @ingemarsmith4154
      @ingemarsmith4154 Před 3 lety +19

      @@Mir2Nastyy MJ was great. Not taking anything away from him. But I'm considering the situation. He had Pippen a team around him.

    • @brooklynnetsdyehardfans6229
      @brooklynnetsdyehardfans6229 Před 3 lety

      Sir ingemar I respect you so much for appreciating the new GOAT but Kevin Durant is the real GOAT than LeBron and Jordan

    • @mildamalinauskaite4722
      @mildamalinauskaite4722 Před 3 lety

      These takes are stupid all im going to say lebron is a second but not close to jordan im not javing a whole day conversation just read this if you see and to answer back ok because i have days and days of arguments all im saying

  • @hoagie00
    @hoagie00 Před 3 lety +271

    Best breakdown of the GOAT argument ever! And Gil, you are the people's GOAT, don't get it twisted.

    • @tonyavant1773
      @tonyavant1773 Před 3 lety +7

      That would be iverson actually

    • @hoagie00
      @hoagie00 Před 3 lety +6

      @@tonyavant1773 Can't really argue that one...

    • @gallusuniverse805
      @gallusuniverse805 Před 3 lety +11

      Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, so is Gilbert Arenas. Now, you can't be the goat with 6 losses in the finals!!!
      But for Gilbert, Lebron is the goat just by making his teammates better? Yet those teammates failed you 6 times. Gilbert really has the best Breakdown of the GOAT argument. Wooow!

    • @tonyavant1773
      @tonyavant1773 Před 3 lety

      @@gallusuniverse805 well said

    • @Mark-oe1df
      @Mark-oe1df Před 3 lety +5

      @@gallusuniverse805 I try the tell people the main reasonl why Lebron can’t be the goat because he has a losing record on the biggest stage
      Also it’s completely false that Kobe and Mike wouldn’t make it to the playoffs with the cavs roster when they did it with teams that was just a bad if not worse than what he had.

  • @thinkingoutloud1353
    @thinkingoutloud1353 Před rokem

    Great break down👏👏

  • @northwestthrills3453
    @northwestthrills3453 Před 2 lety +2

    Finally, someone said it.

  • @Johenz
    @Johenz Před 3 lety +119

    Gil was spot on about the Cleveland team. We seen it with Kobe in 05-06 he just dropped 40 and first round exit. Mj before Phil was just first round exit.

    • @jamessims9298
      @jamessims9298 Před 2 lety +17

      My biggest thing about Arenas and all these lebron the goat fans fail to realize conference play. Its like Bron gets participation points as the goat for just making the finals.
      If everyone just took 5 to 10 mins to do some research of nba basketball after Jordan left Chicago the west actually won all but 5 of the first 20 nba finals, so what exactly does that say about the eastern conference. In fact it was so lopsided that in my eyes the final was between the lakers and spurs, lakers, dallas or GSW from 2000 to 2019 for the most part. We all expected that Cleveland team to be there in the end and to get smashed by one of those four teams.
      Also the proof in my argument is exactly why the allstar game format change when the west had 8 of the top 10 players in the league or so most seasons. The commissioner got tired of west winning the game 164 to 125 or so. Also the reason why they considered changing the nba playoffs format a few years ago because it wasn't fair for the #8 seed in the east to be 30 and 52 meanwhile #8 in the west was 44 and 28 or so. My point is lebron and those Cleveland teams wouldn't sniffed the finals in the west until he had Kyrie and Love and that possibly would've only happened one season or so

    • @Johenz
      @Johenz Před 2 lety +14

      @@jamessims9298 okay but lebron don’t get discredit for making it to 8 straight finals. no matter how you want to look at it that is impressive.
      Also content matters. In the early 2000s lakers and spurs were the two super teams in that era. Then there were finals where the eastern teams were as good as the western teams. Packers vs lakers, spurs vs pistons, lakers vs Celtics, mavericks vs heat, warriors vs cavs first time were all Evenly matched teams. And you contradicted yourself by saying we all knew cavs will be in the finals yet saying it was spurs or lakers in the west in the finals. Both conference was dominated by a dynastic team. When warriors was winning it was always gonna be them in the finals. From 2000-2010 it was lakers or spurs coming out the west, from 2011-2013 was the only year the west was open. From 2015-2019 it was warriors easily. What made lebron run impressive is he held his dynastic run for 8 years

    • @UPxYOURs2
      @UPxYOURs2 Před 2 lety +4

      Yea but they don’t talk about that🤦‍♂️

    • @Artrail1000
      @Artrail1000 Před 2 lety +5

      @@UPxYOURs2 what about his first 8 years in the league they brush over that as well.

    • @JBrulez
      @JBrulez Před 2 lety +4

      @@jamessims9298 What are you saying right now. You're talking out the side of your mouth. If you're going to try and diminish LeBron's success at least use facts. You are saying that LeBron wouldnt have made the playoffs most of the years if his team had the record they had but in the Western Conference, which isn't true at all. There is only one season the Cavs would not6 have made the Playoffs if that was the case and that was in 2008 when they were 45-37 which isn't bad and the West's 8th seed was 50-32. Just admit you're a hater because that's so sad that you would even put that out there to make what he's done less impressive.

  • @michaelwhite7926
    @michaelwhite7926 Před 3 lety +172

    That was a fair breakdown of the goat conversation

    • @MrAlvarez23
      @MrAlvarez23 Před 3 lety +5

      Most deft I never thought of that, the way he explained it

    • @shawn17g
      @shawn17g Před 3 lety +6

      Nope mj was underrated by arenas

    • @princekurie805
      @princekurie805 Před 3 lety +7

      @@shawn17g Dawg it was fair. If he talked about MJ how he talked about Bron there would be no “he underrated Bron”

    • @anthonyhogan5878
      @anthonyhogan5878 Před 2 lety +5

      @@MrAlvarez23 6 finals and 6 rings on the same team and 6 times defensive player I thinks that's consider an goat 🐐. Never lost in the finals . So stop it

    • @franjoikrloipatrik
      @franjoikrloipatrik Před 2 lety

      @@anthonyhogan5878 in 90s weak era and no zone defwnse 1 v 1 against 6 feet plumbers and thats your goat? Lol

  • @edwinnkwenti2741
    @edwinnkwenti2741 Před rokem

    Great analysis GA

  • @based5198
    @based5198 Před rokem +2

    "Killer instinct" type of play won't survive this era, today's era is all about the right play and good pass. Look at Luka he makes almost all the shots and don't have any championship take note that Luka is also a great passer and still can't win a chip. Today's era is a different built of talent and Bron is still competing in a high level. Dude, bron literally adjusted his playstyle in 3 different eras and still the best. 00s,10s,20s

  • @jameslbolden
    @jameslbolden Před 3 lety +197

    Maybe...just maybe...I might have to reconsider my GOAT choice after this breakdown....🤔

    • @maxwiththeimpressions9217
      @maxwiththeimpressions9217 Před 3 lety +23

      I am also considering it, but not quite ready, not quite sure, but this breakdown is great and again shows how incredible LeBron is. Very different from the "best guy shoots" style of star player. However, there's no doubt in my mind that he is a better team guy, and that he can lead bad or mediocre teams the furthest, by believing so strongly in his team mates that they start believing in themselves and turn into value. And then again he can just do so so much, he has great versatility and obviously he's longevity!

    • @markied2873
      @markied2873 Před 3 lety +7

      It's a good breakdown but if you gotta do all of this analysis to consider someone a 🐐, he's probably not. Eye test is best test.

    • @Obikso
      @Obikso Před 3 lety +55

      @@markied2873 When people believe popular analysts' views without doing their own research then yes, you gotta breakdown your own point for it to be even heard. A well thought out and explained breakdown is better than a casual saying 6-0 vs 4-6 with no context

    • @brannybrannylo1706
      @brannybrannylo1706 Před 3 lety +14

      @@maxwiththeimpressions9217 you made a very crucial point and I want to reiterate on that when you said he trust and gets he's team mates involved and ultimately they have confidence in themselves and make the game easy for him I totally agree with that and that's the reason why most players become more productive when they play with Lebron and when they don't play with him anymore they don't seem to meet up the same standards after he's not playing with them anymore

    • @maxwiththeimpressions9217
      @maxwiththeimpressions9217 Před 3 lety +2

      @@brannybrannylo1706 Yea exactly, exactly.. Do you think he is the greatest basketball player of all time though, skill wise?
      I think he is a greater team mate than Jordan, a better team guy, but still don't know about player.

  • @clutch3ball239
    @clutch3ball239 Před 3 lety +113

    For a long time I thought that MJ is the G.O.A.T. but after witnessing LeBron James and seeing what this man has done throughout his long career, it’s undeniable he’s the greatest basketball player of all time. His mind, his vision, combined with his superior athletic ability, rarely if ever gets injured, leads teams not with an iron fist, but with inclusion and a sense of community, pass first attitude instead of shooting a 29th shot after going 4-28 from the field, can adapt to any play style, guard 1 though 5, never a coach killer, humble student of the game, constantly improving to maintain longevity, the list of feats are endless with this guy.

    • @dsworld8721
      @dsworld8721 Před 2 lety +17

      Facts

    • @Mfm_96
      @Mfm_96 Před 2 lety +15

      He’s amazing but I got Jordan #1

    • @l1ll4rd48
      @l1ll4rd48 Před 2 lety +9

      We look at a GOAT by how good they were in their prime, almost prime position, offence/defence and scoring. Longevity and injury does not affect GOAT status, especially since leBron is spending millions on health and longevity meanwhile MJ was stuck in a time of cigars and drugs, he’d even smoke a cigar before every game. MJ only needed one play style, and that style got him GOAT status, and “humble student”? What has this got to do with how good a player is, MJ was cocky and had a big ego because he was insanely good. LeBrons efforts outside the court have nothing to do with his skill. MJ is the GOAT and undeniably better at basketball.

    • @l1ll4rd48
      @l1ll4rd48 Před 2 lety +7

      Sorry forgot to mention as well, I don’t think you’ve seen enough of MJ playing because something both Lebron people and MJ people agree upon is that MJ is more athletic, it’s just fact. Not many people come close to Jordan’s athleticism.

    • @clutch3ball239
      @clutch3ball239 Před 2 lety +15

      @@l1ll4rd48 You clearly have a lot to learn about basketball and are undeniably influenced by mainstream sports channels. You speak of “we” as if you’re the entire world. You’re not. You’re just one man/woman. That being said, there’s obviously more to basketball than scoring. MJ was elite at scoring, there’s no denying that. But if you’ve ever played the game, then you remember the most joyous thing to play next to is an elite scorer and especially an elite passer. Conversely, if you play next to somebody who doesn’t pass (and there were countless moments where MJ refused to pass, I’ve seen the good, bad and ugly passing games of MJ), you’d tell him to stop hogging the ball! Prime is nothing, absolutely nothing compared to longevity. If a GM wants to build his team, why would he care about about a player’s prime or peak? He wants sustained excellence. If a company has a choice between hiring somebody with a prime or somebody who can give you years and years of excellent work and most of all availability, you’d know who’d they choose. Be honest with yourself.
      About the health thing, it’s astonishing to see how in-objective you are when you praise MJ’s habits of cigars and drugs and indict LeBron for taking care of his body, you know, the number one thing teammates/players/coaches ask you to do as part of your job. Being humble has got EVERYTHING to do in being good in LIFE let alone basketball. Having ego in any situation, especially in basketball is never appreciated.
      When it comes to skill, sure MJ has a better offensive package. Beautiful highlights. But that’s where it stops.
      Passing, chase-down blocks, defending all 5 positions (you’ve seen LeBron front the post and neutralize bigs in their prime), communicating, getting teammates involved. All skills LeBron possessed that are way superior than MJ’s footwork. There’s so much to teach you, but I’ll leave it with these couple of jewels.
      Look, it’s been a nice run for MJ, and he was phenomenal, but people are slowly waking up to the obvious fact that the bigger, faster, stronger, healthier, more unselfish and smarter LeBron James is the greatest basketball player of all time 👑

  • @WordSpeak1048
    @WordSpeak1048 Před rokem +2

    Great breakdown

  • @longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24

    Real recognize real 💯

  • @eamorrison859
    @eamorrison859 Před 3 lety +18

    Masterful break down of the 🐐. Most people don't even see it like that. Not to mention how he's know's dang near every set a team is going to do. Others watch the game and are reactionary, no my G this is planned.

  • @jakethesound4586
    @jakethesound4586 Před 2 lety +1

    The Danny Green play makes all the sense in the world. Himself - Low % Shot, Morris - Career 34% 3Pt guarded by great wing guard Crowder, hands on his knees, KCP reachable only with pass thru 3 ppl 39% 3pt career, Danny Green COMPLETELY FREE at that point 42% 3 pt shooter over the season. Only play that makes sense is what he did.

  • @kantankafinejewellersinc.1879

    insightful breakdown.

  • @jovertoamigable2151
    @jovertoamigable2151 Před 3 lety +13

    Man ur breakdown means everything is worth to watch it again and again tnx man

  • @Maxisnicee
    @Maxisnicee Před 3 lety +832

    Greatness 🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @legendaryslic
      @legendaryslic Před 3 lety +1

      You the goat MaxIsNicee

    • @The_favorite_Uncle
      @The_favorite_Uncle Před 3 lety +5

      @Christian Wood hope u get better goat wood 🙏 we need u to continue your historic run

    • @riquetc0060
      @riquetc0060 Před 3 lety +5

      Ain't the goat tho lmao

    • @jemirtoussaint3440
      @jemirtoussaint3440 Před 3 lety +5

      @@riquetc0060 he ain’t your goat

    • @riquetc0060
      @riquetc0060 Před 3 lety +5

      @@jemirtoussaint3440 Nah, he just ain't the goat in general.

  • @mauricemolden4126
    @mauricemolden4126 Před rokem

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 breakdown

  • @LetsBuildThatApp
    @LetsBuildThatApp Před 3 lety +25

    The issue is that even if you call LeBron the goat, you'd have to consider Jordan as some legendary mythical figure beyond basketball. Jordan was an international icon during the 90s and made basketball

    • @abcdefg1392
      @abcdefg1392 Před 3 lety +9

      Jordan came at the perfect time era wise to get a ton of worldwide exposure like no superstar had before in the NBA and also benefitted from an incredible marketing campaign from Nike, again the first of its kind. If LeBron had played in that era and been in MJ’s shoes, I think he would’ve been similarly popular. I know what you mean though, I think Jordan is still the most well known player internationally, but it’s because of his play. A legendary mythical figure outside of their sport to me is someone like Ali or something and Jordan as a figure outside of basketball wasn’t quite as transcendent as that IMO 🤔

    • @abcdefg1392
      @abcdefg1392 Před 2 lety +3

      @xo 4u ok yea like now that's just not true lol, MJ would be an MVP candidate ever year if he played now the same way Bron is

    • @abcdefg1392
      @abcdefg1392 Před 2 lety +4

      ​@xo 4u LOL im literally 23 you're honestly dumb if you think anyone would make MJ "look like a high schooler" WHO lmao

    • @LetsBuildThatApp
      @LetsBuildThatApp Před 2 lety +2

      @xo 4u Well I wouldn’t say a handful, the only player I can think of is Kevin Durant, arguably the most unstoppable scorer to ever play the game. Other than that, the game has changed too much to where it doesn’t make sense to compare anymore.

    • @Tmoney7994
      @Tmoney7994 Před 2 lety +3

      @xo 4u bro don't talk basketball anymore

  • @ddp5406
    @ddp5406 Před 3 lety +108

    Exactly, Lebron is just different

    • @geraldwilson1705
      @geraldwilson1705 Před 3 lety

      Lebron os trash he lost 6 finals

    • @ddp5406
      @ddp5406 Před 3 lety +18

      @@geraldwilson1705 yeah because we all know its better to lose in the earlier rounds

    • @johnnycoop8694
      @johnnycoop8694 Před 3 lety +8

      @@geraldwilson1705 like championships aren’t team accomplishments. Bunch of idiots on here

    • @killmeinorder
      @killmeinorder Před 3 lety +4

      @@johnnycoop8694 Making it 10x is also a team accomplishment 🤦‍♂️

    • @johnnycoop8694
      @johnnycoop8694 Před 3 lety +7

      @@killmeinorder who said it wasn’t?

  • @O7V3
    @O7V3 Před 3 lety +64

    And why isn’t this man a nba coach or staff member. Incredible mind

    • @Henry-kv7zl
      @Henry-kv7zl Před 3 lety +3

      He coaches highschool level right now I think. With his son

    • @BRAWLIC215
      @BRAWLIC215 Před 3 lety +1

      Naw not hs.. his kid only 10.. but he is coaching an Aau team

    • @H41030v3rki110ny0u
      @H41030v3rki110ny0u Před 3 lety +5

      @@BRAWLIC215 No guns allowed on school property

    • @zetsutsuletsu2034
      @zetsutsuletsu2034 Před 3 lety +2

      He says om his youtube show he will coach. He is just not sure which level(highschool, college, nba) suits him the most at the moment.

    • @55jemmz5
      @55jemmz5 Před 3 lety +1

      There’s nothing about this video that shows that he could be an nba coach.

  • @Andew711
    @Andew711 Před rokem +2

    Everybody is forgetting that LeBron had to go against a super talented warriors roster in the finals

    • @judahmourneth3211
      @judahmourneth3211 Před rokem

      And he had enough talent on his team to compete. His super team just lost to another super team.

  • @floydpotts2438
    @floydpotts2438 Před rokem +1

    Excellent breakdown

  • @lawsupreme2922
    @lawsupreme2922 Před 3 lety +93

    Lakers fan love Kobe he's my GOAT but I love to hear actual NBA players perspective on these type of topics

    • @LeChina
      @LeChina Před 3 lety +16

      You know nothing about basketball if you think Kobe is the goat.

    • @lawsupreme2922
      @lawsupreme2922 Před 3 lety +14

      @@LeChina what gave u the audacity to comment if we all liked the same thing we would all chase the same girl enjoy your day brother

    • @anormalfacedguy8251
      @anormalfacedguy8251 Před 3 lety +18

      @@LeChina Don't talk about other people OPINIONS.

    • @drewfilson6795
      @drewfilson6795 Před 3 lety +4

      @@LeChina Yeah, huge respect to Kobe but he's just not on Jordan's level.

    • @Kingdoscuatro
      @Kingdoscuatro Před 3 lety +12

      @@drewfilson6795 Jordan’s era was weak..easy era to go iso one on one...compared to Kobe’s 2000-2010 era run 😂

  • @emmanuelpetit8291
    @emmanuelpetit8291 Před 3 lety +25

    There is not enough like button for me to press. I'll just leave my appreciation

  • @firstchain_prominence
    @firstchain_prominence Před 2 lety

    0:35 that’s the whole video bro lmfaooo

  • @MultiSWEETPEA26
    @MultiSWEETPEA26 Před rokem +2

    Excellent assessment Gilbert

  • @souljamakinbread08
    @souljamakinbread08 Před 3 lety +122

    The sad part Gilbert was a killer like kobe & mj but he knows that style of playing tho it's exciting to watch it doesn't equate to wins with any roster & it is what it is its seems anyone who clearly puts mj or kobe over bron has to be looking at the game from a 1on1 standpoint but basketball is a team sport & bron gets the most out average teammates

    • @imkotable
      @imkotable Před 3 lety +5

      What JR Smith numbers before and after playing with Bron?
      What Kevin Love numbers before and after playing with Bron?
      What AD numbers before and after playing with Bron?

    • @qwerty-rv4ty
      @qwerty-rv4ty Před 3 lety +38

      @@imkotable how many rings did they have before and after?

    • @samarjeetbhonsle6000
      @samarjeetbhonsle6000 Před 3 lety +8

      @@qwerty-rv4ty exactly

    • @imkotable
      @imkotable Před 3 lety +16

      @@qwerty-rv4ty Lol stupid argument. How many rings Scottie had before and after playing with MJ?
      How many rings Gasol had before and after playing with Kobe?
      So based on your perspective, Kobe and MJ make their teammates better. Lol.

    • @qwerty-rv4ty
      @qwerty-rv4ty Před 3 lety +6

      @@GD-ue4ty thank you😂😂 hes so dumb

  • @michaeljames1818
    @michaeljames1818 Před 3 lety +7

    My boy always keep it real 👍🏾

  • @moodyville
    @moodyville Před rokem +3

    The reason his offense is so potent and perfect is because when LeBron's on the floor, everyone on his team becomes a true threat. My favourite players will always be AI and KD but LBJ is the greatest to touch a basketball

  • @anthonytucker2140
    @anthonytucker2140 Před 2 lety +3

    Michael Jordan 6 times NBA Finals MVP and never loss in the Finals!!!! That’s a real GOAT!!!!

    • @spencerpremier
      @spencerpremier Před 2 lety

      no

    • @spencerpremier
      @spencerpremier Před 2 lety

      So that’s just means most of Jordan’s losses came in the conference finals and earlier rounds lol, how is that a debate

    • @syzorst
      @syzorst Před 2 lety +1

      @@spencerpremier There's no reasonable argument that Lebron is better than Jordan. Lebron had his chance and failed.

    • @lecowardjames
      @lecowardjames Před 2 lety +1

      @@spencerpremier LECHOKE ONLY 4 RINGS IN 17 YEARS,NOT TO MENTION HE IS THE BIGGEST army deserter IN ALL TIME NBA HISTORY

    • @lecowardjames
      @lecowardjames Před 2 lety

      @@spencerpremier lechoke missed 4 playoffs😂

  • @KevinCunninghamvisionaryelite

    Jordan believed in John Paxson for the first Chip!

    • @wlbw1
      @wlbw1 Před 2 lety +10

      And Steve Kerr for the 5th

    • @NwoFresh
      @NwoFresh Před 2 lety

      Bruh the beat the lakers 4-1

    • @embroiderystitch2374
      @embroiderystitch2374 Před 2 lety +6

      Who took them to the finals. Daddy MJ so shut up.

    • @thelight3547
      @thelight3547 Před 2 lety +2

      It was a broken play, stupid casual

    • @dparks2856
      @dparks2856 Před 2 lety

      Jordan didn't pass it to Paxson

  • @poochiejames4200
    @poochiejames4200 Před 3 lety +12

    I’m glad GA came out and started his own platform. After the gun incident that’s all I thought of him dude actually articulate af

  • @aaronrooks2703
    @aaronrooks2703 Před 2 lety +1

    Bruh. The only games he had that actually get recognition are the high scoring games with an opposing player. His 60 points game against the Lakers when Kobe had 45 and his playoff series against Lebron in ‘06. He made the all star team ‘05 and ‘07 and lost in the 1st round twice.

  • @BarryB.Benson
    @BarryB.Benson Před 2 lety +3

    0:24, Jordan passed to Kerr for the game winner in the exact instance he’s talking about

  • @g_zehrbach
    @g_zehrbach Před 3 lety +30

    This is straight facts lebrons iq is better than anyone else who’s ever played LEBRONS THE GOAT

    • @jeffcook2570
      @jeffcook2570 Před 3 lety

      Larry Legend

    • @mobetta2092
      @mobetta2092 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jeffcook2570 in his career, Larry had Kevin McHale and Robert Parish (equivalent to having Tim Duncan and Karl Anthony Towns), Dennis Johnson (equivalent to having Drew Holiday/Lou Williams), Danny Ainge (equivalent to having Gordan Drajic), Nate "Tiny" Archibald (equivalent to having 5'9 Isaiah Thomas at his best), Reggie Lewis (equivalent to having PG-13), Bill Walton (equivalent to having Pau Gasol), and as head coach and GM he had K.C. Jones (equivalent to Doc Rivers), and Red Aurebach (equivalent to Pat Riley).
      Now ask yourself what would LeBron have done with that caliber of support?

    • @jeffcook2570
      @jeffcook2570 Před 3 lety +1

      @@mobetta2092 just thought I'd leave this here for you. Pay close attention to Kareem's part
      czcams.com/video/cAtySAPhFW8/video.html

    • @mobetta2092
      @mobetta2092 Před 3 lety

      @@jeffcook2570 players respect Magic and Larry not only because of their greatness, but also because they made the NBA a part of popular culture, so I know Larry Bird's value.
      However, MJ, LeBron (Kareem and Wilt to lesser degree) are the reputable names in the GOAT conversation. (Give Bird LeBron's Cavs teams and they're not even contenders...give Bron Bird's Celtics teams and they're still winning).
      Edit: I've NEVER heard any credible basketball mind ever consider Larry Bird the GOAT

    • @mobetta2092
      @mobetta2092 Před 3 lety

      @@jeffcook2570 here's something for you to view.
      czcams.com/video/7DyTMEiORok/video.html

  • @tonyharris8350
    @tonyharris8350 Před 3 lety +66

    Much respect Arenas ....you wasn't to bad yourself 💪🏿 🏀

  • @ottogreenjr.7857
    @ottogreenjr.7857 Před 3 lety

    Nice!!

  • @JDJ2504
    @JDJ2504 Před rokem +1

    Gilbert is not lying. He was a basketball player he knows the game inside out.

  • @MrCrossdatracks
    @MrCrossdatracks Před 3 lety +17

    Agent 0 was spot on with his take 🔥

  • @madisonkirchofer1560
    @madisonkirchofer1560 Před 3 lety +65

    This was a good argument for Lebron tbh 🔥

    • @kitwalters5949
      @kitwalters5949 Před 3 lety +2

      You dont watch basketball

    • @jemirtoussaint3440
      @jemirtoussaint3440 Před 3 lety +6

      @@kitwalters5949Lmaoo how could you possible tell?

    • @CaspaTheGhost
      @CaspaTheGhost Před 3 lety +3

      @@kitwalters5949 And we supposed to take your opinion on Basketball over Somebody who played & studied the game & played at a high level give me what your smoking on 😂

    • @kaywill9677
      @kaywill9677 Před 3 lety

      Not really. Every other great did the same thing LeBron did... Gilbert just made it seem like he was the only player EVER to do this.

    • @jemirtoussaint3440
      @jemirtoussaint3440 Před 3 lety +4

      @@kaywill9677 every other great came back from 3-1 against a team that went 73-9 and had the unanimous mvp?

  • @hite3h
    @hite3h Před 2 lety +3

    I want this man to coach a team

  • @metalmaster7789
    @metalmaster7789 Před 2 lety +4

    Applying the same logic to Jokic will make him a potential GOAT as well (and Duncan, and to a lesser extent Nash), vision, shooting, team player, nigh unstoppable, and even better, terrific efficiency. However, Gilbert's analysis is interesting because it puts value on how good Lebron is as a coworker, which is not an argument based on workload, rather fellowship. However, Lebron's teammates were not good enough and he had to change this approach early on his career and embraced the super team cheese. I appreciate this video and Gilbert's insightful arguments.

    • @digimon3522
      @digimon3522 Před rokem +1

      Agree! Although LeBron is great! His decision to leave teams to team up with other superstar or all star calibre players will always be enough for me to put Jordan as the Goat! Imagine if in the late 80's when Jordan didnt have a great supporting cast and lost many times in the playoffs and he decided to join forces with Barkley,Ewing or other stars of his era, i dont think that many would still proclaim him as the Goat since he took the easier road as LeBron did!

    • @alexvega8940
      @alexvega8940 Před rokem +2

      @@digimon3522 well. lebron with worse teams in his first stint with the cavs in the 2000’s then mj in the 80’s. bron made the playoffs every and conference every year, even made an nba final in 07 at 21. the organization didn’t build players around lebron that could help him win championships like jordan. the bulls built and bought players around mj once they realized he needed help. bron did the same but look at what they did, nothing. they didn’t help lebron at all. he left because the organization didn’t build around him. you cant blame him for that. he gave everything to the cavs even came back and brought them a ring in the end.

  • @footvirtual9965
    @footvirtual9965 Před 3 lety +8

    I think both of them is affecting the game in a quite similar way. And its not all about skills, its actually the intangible and the drive to win the game in any way they possibly can. Best example of this attributes is Jimmy butler, as Jimmy is actually an inefficient player but somehow having him in the game affect the Heat's chances to win greatly.

    • @The_Crazy_Monkey75
      @The_Crazy_Monkey75 Před rokem +1

      That is true. It's not just about stats. MJ actually had a greater impact in the overall performance of his team than Lebron ever did.

  • @lnd1998
    @lnd1998 Před 3 lety +5

    People don’t realize bron’s first ever playoff series he averaged 35 and had TWO game winners against Gil and his wizards.

    • @MrMilez-ic1vl
      @MrMilez-ic1vl Před rokem

      Thats not saying much since nobody puts the Wizards on the all time great defensive teams list

    • @freakthegod2362
      @freakthegod2362 Před rokem

      @@MrMilez-ic1vlthen it doesn’t mean much when Jordan was dropping 35PPG on farmer teams

  • @libertydc482
    @libertydc482 Před 2 lety

    Good point of view on differences in style of game of 3 GOATS .

  • @pimpportal
    @pimpportal Před 2 lety

    Great point

  • @tiemann55
    @tiemann55 Před 3 lety +4

    That is a great analysis!!!

  • @carltondelva5726
    @carltondelva5726 Před 3 lety +7

    Gilbert arenas not only a fantastic player but humble enough to be objective in this

  • @vijayak713
    @vijayak713 Před 2 lety +3

    I agree with Gilbert for this exact reason, but everyone else is just blind to lebron's assists and vision

  • @Polo22546
    @Polo22546 Před rokem

    One helluva break down!!

  • @shalifmusic
    @shalifmusic Před 3 lety +17

    If Gil redid his career with what he knows now he would’ve had MULTIPLE RINGS!

  • @saulw6270
    @saulw6270 Před 3 lety +4

    Gil is the most respectful basketball commentator he thinks he understands and he doesn’t belittle ppl or hype em too high jus gives it real

  • @nileshjagtap6324
    @nileshjagtap6324 Před 2 lety

    Last month I searched video like this. Now I found

  • @rudeboi1766
    @rudeboi1766 Před 2 lety +2

    Lebron first step was fast af doe

  • @riddickflowe
    @riddickflowe Před 3 lety +8

    Basically it comes down to Lebron being a small forward who’s asked to do everything VS Jordan and Kobe who are score first mentality players. Just because their main role was to score doesn’t mean they didn’t have high IQs too. Kobe proved later in his career that he could get triple doubles easily too if it’s asked of him and Jordan also had no problem making those extra passes at the end of games too

  • @mayozachary24
    @mayozachary24 Před 3 lety +104

    There’s still so much more that makes him great

    • @akshayrao4473
      @akshayrao4473 Před 2 lety

      And there's more than that why Jordan is the GOAT!

    • @akshayrao4473
      @akshayrao4473 Před 2 lety

      @@bryrashad Winning mentality, never quitting and the list goes on and on

    • @flameking3344
      @flameking3344 Před 2 lety

      @@akshayrao4473 "Winning Mentality" is very subjective, we can't simply know what burns inside the heart of the person.

  • @mariopantoja8259
    @mariopantoja8259 Před rokem +3

    I'm not buying what he's selling.

  • @jayc3479
    @jayc3479 Před rokem +2

    Well said!
    With LJ about to break the all time scoring record, this has aged incredibly well.