5 Signs You Are A LOSING Poker Player
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- A losing #poker player is easy to spot, especially since they tend to do most of the things in this video! See how the things they say, the ways they think, and the limitations in their overall poker strategy almost guarantee they won't be profitable in the long run. If you're making any of these mistakes, it's time to put in a little extra study!
0:00 5 Ways To Spot A Losing Poker Player
0:54 Sign 1 - Words Like Always And Never
1:57 Sign 2 - Cannot Be Objective
3:45 Sign 3 - Super Reactive
5:29 Sign 4 - Losses Are Never Their Fault
6:57 Sign 5 - F The Math
10:06 Fixing These Leaks
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All you need is this one: you constantly need to add money to your account in order to play
Lol definitely a big sign, but a lot of people have to take multiple shots and add on to their bankroll. Losing/adding $50 every week is bad.
I came to say the same exact thing
Lmaoo right what else do you need to know.
It’s possible to run below EV for extended periods of time. You can also be a break even/small winner but rake makes you a losing player. Although if youbreak even , you probably exhibit some of the traits James is talking about
@@mrburns805 if rake makes you a losing player you are a losing player, you are not break even player. You cannot take out rake when you analyze if you are a winning or losing player
Retired pro here: I'll take a guess at the five things.
1. Limping into pots
2. Calling too many 3bets from OOP
3. Not defending your BB often enough
4. Raising too tight or too loose preflop
5. Playing garbage hands
Edit: Got them all wrong! :D
Yours is a good list none the less =)
No you got them right this list is not good
This list is easy and simple. I like it a lot lol😂
He talked about folding KK pre-flop. Couple years ago I was playing a game where the guy never raised without the nuts after the flop. Preflop I saw him flat Ace King pocket jacks etc. One hand under the gun raised to 10 he made it 40. I was on the button with KK. In my head I knew I should fold because he had to have aces based on his play. But I called anyway and we got it all in on the turn. He had AA.
Yea I feel ya… I’ve folded KK & QQ several time because the raise made prior to me pretty much made that hand a game of Russian Roulette. My saying is ‘I rather lose the battle but win the war’ comes into play in these circumstances. If the raise before me is low then I can of course smooth call it to see the flop
I always look at my hand objectively and I always see the future and react proactively -I’m a genius …my only losses come through bad beats… playing the percentages with an awesome feel for the game…. They call me fat stacks…equity is not sitting down across from me….variables and formulas is like breathing to me…you FEEL ME
LOL. If you know he has aces, you SHOULD call with KK. As long as you have the implied odds. Then obv. fold if you don't make your set.
@@aheroictaxidriver3180 He only had two hundred behind. So I shouldn't have called.
Love the comments about feel players. I was a profitable live player but had to go online during the pandemic. I struggled heavily and have to admit that the lack of live reads hurt. I was more of a feel player than I thought. I had taken CORE and was using the principles, but evidently not well enough. What a wake-up call that was! If the pandemic had any silver lining at all for me, it was to show me that I had alot of work to do. Thank you SplitSuit for all you do.
This sounds like me
You're very welcome Keith, and nice job putting in the hard work!
Because your average live player is considerably weaker than your online player.
"Man, 9's are hot tonight... that's why I limped with 3,9o... I just knew a 9 was gonna flop". I hear this kind of thing a lot from a certain type of player at lower stakes. They truly believe in "Hot" or "Cold" cards and "streaks".
“I only called cause of the bad beat jackpot” one of my favorites
I always encourage this kind of thinking.
Yes indeed!
You dont think its plain as day that you have stretches of running hot or running cold?
@@well.thy.one. I am smart enough to know that having a string of good statistical variance is MEANINGLESS data, and is ZERO indication of the next hand. People that think like you apparently do are proof that poker will always be a profitable game.
#4 is just human nature. You'll find it in every hobby. It's a lot easier psychologically to blame something else for your own failure.
I think it's a pretty easy mindset to fix once you're aware of it. When you fail, ignore everything that happened except your own actions, and evaluate those alone.
Failure is the best teacher.
When I started playing, I used to chase really improbable hands and had a hard time letting go of anything I put into a pot and would piss away more on a thin hope.
A lot of it had to do with not really being able to afford to lose. I was playing for money I needed and thinking about every losing hand too much.
Once I started thinking of the buy-in as already gone and the chips as just chips, I was able to play more intelligently and take informed risks without sweating it.
I never play real high stakes. I had the attitude of "well, I drop $500 at a music festival for fun with no chance of return... why am I sweating $250 when I can have fun and maybe come away with something?
I always love your insights and never miss your videos!
Thank you so much Raz!
Old saying was "Feel players are generally good at feeling their wallet get thinner."
Thank you for all your hard work, I appreciate it, and the people I play with would have some different things to say.
As for fishy actions, over playing their hands when they are 100BB deep, like saying "I grind my bankroll up playing sit and go's and then switch to cash games and always lose it back, open shoving 100 BBs getting called and sucked out on." My comment to them "If you can crush SNG's why bother with cash unless your bankroll can actually handle some swings?"
"There are many old poker players and there are many bold poker players, BUT there are NO old, bold poker players"
Nicely said =)
Sometimes it's good to check all the boxes, here, I'm sad to say so. All accurate, although more often now, I am clear (relatively), and can achieve a likely range in a given moment. Most of my hero calls (70%) are still wrong, and my bet sizings are not well constructed, but, otherwise..lol. Thanks, as always, for your insights, much appreciated.
You can go from shark to fish by simply playing 1 or 2 levels higher than you normally do (on the micros you will probably notice a difference less quickly). Deciding to play higher stakes can change something in you mentally, which can therefore affect your way of playing positively and negatively. It's in your own interest to know what kind of person you actually are and what character traits you possess. When playing poker you will often enough be confronted with who you actually are. If you are comfortable at the table and don't play with scared money and know that you are probably the underdog when you go up in stakes (playing higher stakes does not mean that there are always better players at your table) know the fundamentals of the poker game well, take the time to study your hand history thoroughly, recognize your leaks at the appropriate level you are playing and be able to minimize and ultimately eliminate them from your game, learn from players who are better than you, then you are well on your way to getting better. Good players 'smell' it when someone is not comfortable, such a player is more inclined to make mistakes. ('That guy always cracks my AA when he's on the BB, What a luckbox!', always? and is he really?) Note that everyone has a limit in level of thinking and insight. We're not all Phil Ivey, although many poker players would like to think they are and with this category you'll definitely want to sit at a poker table. ;)
7: being a complete degenerate in other aspects outside of poker.
But...what was 6!?
Another you could add is just taking break cuz it doesn’t matter how good or bad you are you are going to have a stretch of days when you just constantly lose and sometimes the best thing you could do is just not play for a few days so you can calm yourself down and go through what went well and what went wrong and that from that you go into your next session improved
That's more of a suggestion or random advice than it is a "sign you are a losing player". Might help some people but it doesn't fit the theme of this video.
Hey James, I want to start studying poker. I play regularly and already know some things of strategy because of your videos/other books. Should I start with your math poker book or with GTO gems?
Cheers Carlos! If you know your math needs work, start with the math workbook. If you feel decent at the math atm, then start with GTO Gems imo. GLGL either way!
It might fall into sign number one, but I have a big problem with wanting to always win every pot, especially post flop.
I've been improving a lot, but I still struggle to anticipate turns/ rivers, and still have no real thought process when it comes to balance.
Things get easier with practice. This video might also be helpful for you! www.splitsuit.com/range-balancing-in-poker
Also play around on equilab. See what hands have for equity on the flop against various ranges
That helps a ton, for sure.
Last season in the WSOP video game I had three 1st places, one 4th place, and two 2nd places including getting 2nd in the main event and getting player of the year in points. This season I'm over half way through the season and only have 1 min cash. The thing about poker is you are gonna run good for a while then run bad for a while because there is a lot of luck involved. I think the number 1 thing in becoming a profitable player is bankroll management by far.
Video game?
@@duncanglen3452 Yeah i just bubbled in a 7 card stud tourney. I hit three 8s on 4th street and this idiot chased a flush all the way to the river and crippled me. In holdem the whole last season I've been playing bad, running bad, and in the tournaments i am doing good i have got crippled multiple times by not folding AK on the flop with top top in a raised pot. Both times it was not worth calling I should have just folded and both times the cpu slow rolled pocket AA on me pre flop. Only had 1 win and 1 min cash last season. That is horrible for me.
@@Jolly-Green-Steve
I played the WSOP PlayStation game as a kid. It peaked my interest in the game early.
@@ryanbahnsen6429 Battle For The Bracelets on Wii is super difficult.
This just reminds me of a hand a couple weeks back. I had Ace's and after the flop realized I should have made it bigger preflop, lost a big pot and talking through it had the moment where I got raised and the person behind me cold called. I should have realized I was beat but got married to the aces.
On 6:58 , I understand this because I've tried using "feel" based thinking when playing online and it doesn't work. There have been times I've been convinced the other guy is bluffing, and he wasn't and then I got shocked. There have been times I'm convinced I'm beat, only to see they're bluffing.... etc etc. It's very easy to jump the gun and make incorrect judgements about a person's playing style from such a small sample of playing with them. But I jump the gun too quickly sometimes lol
Good job for looking at it objectively!
The first one I do on purpose. The others I say I do in order to fool the good players into thinking I am a bad player and also encourage the fish to continue their ways when they se me leaving with their money. You and the rest of the fish are my target audience for this strategy.
Is this relationship advice or poker advice? The overlap is phenomenal lol sometimes I feel like you’re giving me free therapy!
Always and never, like many other elements of a individual's personality, are often intrinsic to them whether at or away from the table. This is so much so that if I can simply sus out that a person holds strongly held political opinions they are probably not that good at poker. If your favorite color isn't gray you likely need to work on you before you have any hope of working on your game.
I feel this is true in regards to most tight, loose, or passive players. These aren't conscious playstyle choices when they first start playing poker, but rather extensions of their baseline personality. The life nits force themselves to loosen up and get more aggressive to get better at poker and in life while the life LAGs force themselves to tighten up and learn when to apply the brakes both in poker and life. Meanwhile, the passive player...ehh...just keep losing in the game and instead of identifying their flaws continues to blame external and imaginary forces....just as they probably do IRL.
Very nicely said MC
Nailed it. People who refuse to change their beliefs or accept that life is hardly ever black and white, are typically losers both in poker and in life. It's a heuristic, but a really harmful one in the modern world.
I JUST FOUND U...EVEN THOU IVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 19 YRS 15 AS A PRO AND I KNOW EVERYTHING UR SAYING ITS GOOD TO HAVE IT REMINDED ONCE IN A WHILE..GG KEEP IT UP BUD
Cheers Kamen!
Check out how much alcohol they are consuming.
Usually that’s the person to go after, but you also need the pot odds in your favor to beat the other players at the game as well
I love when my opponents order drinks. Loosens em up and they make dumb decisions.
I do have one "feel" story.
I was playing $2-$5 no-limit. I got dealt AK off suit. There a few callers and the pot is only about $20. This one guy then suddenly raises to $168. He had not made a move like that before and it was VERY odd. And yes, I suddenly got a bad feeling. It just felt really off. I won't claim to know what he had, but I did feel confident enough I was behind. I have been told before I made the wrong move, but I did fold. Is there a play out there that says that is a good raise?
Anyway, he got one caller. They guy who called him had 3-7 off suit. Guess what? A 3-7 came on the flop. Both players go all in and the two pair does beat packet aces and no more pairs came on the board. I have been told that even though I made the right call I played "bad" poker. I don't know, but I did go on to have a winning night by the time I left.
A lot of winning players say "always" and "never" when referring to a specific unique spot. What they mean is there's no mixing being done and the decision being made is pure. That doesn't mean their decision wouldn't be different if they were against a different player. It's a robot-esque type of thinking putting forth the scenario that if you were to run this same exact game tree against the same exact player a trillion times what your strategy would be.
Split-Suit has some good insights, but he does skew toward "Mathy" and discrete evaluation. Note his first "Sign" draws from taking someone literally when they say "always" and "never". The biggest "tell" to identify losing poker players is by observing their *Range* by seat position. See someone open from EP with K9 (suited or unsuited)...Losing player. See someone close the betting in a raised-Pot (4-way, 5-way) pre-flop from the BB with 76-suited...Losing player.
Why is 76 suited bad multiway preflop?
Yea I would assume 76s picks up some implied odds in a multi way pot, especially if they are tags and nits…they probably have each other’s outs. 😂
I certainly skew mathy, but both examples you gave are underpinned with math, ranges, and technical understanding =)
Ok, I hear ya and thats good info. That said, ive never heard of you or any accomplishments of yours in the poker community. Never seen you play a livestream, until I see you crushing somewhere, its all theory.
The most obvious sign has to be calling all-in with a pure bluff catcher with J4... And when asked why'd you call, u say u thought the opponent had an Ace.
That seems like it would be a controversial call. Is anyone talking about this hand? lol
Loooooool why u deleting my comment
@@Shmobbin_ I didn't. Your previous comment is still there...
thank you rabbi
if i feel like J4of is a good call in TT93 for overber x3... It's bad?
Only if you *always* call with it...
Humility is one quality you need in order to be successful in the long term as a poker player.
Folding KK pre flop is -EV in the long run. If they have aces then it's just a cooler
Does it always make sense to bet a set post flop? Or is just usually safe to?
OOP you should be check-raising sets or if your opponent is a calling station then donk lead as big as they will call.
Well first lesson of this video. "words like always or never". So there will be situations when it's best to not bet a set
It's usually safe to, but not always best...
It doesn't always make sense. Sometimes the board is so dry and toasty that you should absolutely check and let your opponent catch up some.
For instance, you have KK and u raised pre and the flop comes K72. Generally, a C-Bet is not only warranted, but most likely the best thing to do....but what if you play against someone who is extremely tight? I'd def be putting in some checks to let hands like AQ/AJo, KQ, KJs, J10s, all PP 99 and below, etc....."catch up"......all hands which have so little equity, yet can easily hit on the turn and give opponent "hope" or that feeling like he got ya.
I always liked to sandbag when I played bridge and it's hard for me to not do that in Texas holdem.
Just keep reminding yourself that they are two very different games and thus require different strategies =)
Thanks for the tips!
IMHO, the background music is a bit distracting.
You're very welcome! Is the BG music too loud, too busy, something else...?
@@ThePokerBank I think it's a bit "upbeat" for the topics you cover in the videos so it's harder to concentrate on your message comparing to that of your videos without BG music. Something calmer would be appreciated. Thank you, sir!
Totally fair. I'm still working on dialing in the BG music since energy matching is so damn important =)
Like your style of communication.
Thanks George!
My losses are solely due to my genius. I always know if I have KK that I'm gonna get it in good but that an ace is coming on the river. It's a talent.
"Never" and "Always" are words I stay away from in the automotive field too.
I sometimes have a hard time recalling hands.
Totally agree with the analysis. Here are some more: 1. They open limp. 2. They call frequently preflop. 3. They buy in short. 4. They use bet sizes that don't make sense given the board. 5. They donk.
Lol love seeing someone buy in for minimum 200 on 2,5 table, lose it, buy in again for 200 more. Rinse, repeat. 😂🤦♂️
@@ryanblanchard2508
I love those. They donate more money into play
I always go all in pre flop with aces and I never win. I hear this a lot.
That means I lost the last two times I got it all in with aces.
You pee on the flop and get kicked out of the casino 😮
So true, lol
@@MrAgmoore wtf
@@well.thy.one.
Tim Elkin
16 hours ago ( before the edit)
"I always go all in pee flop with aces and I never win. I hear this a lot."
On the luck one, so since December to July I was up 18k playing 1/3. Since July I have lost 5k - running really bad. I know my play suffered in my down swing, but sometimes it is luck right? Or am I being fishy.
Like I keep getting my money in good like the last hand before I took a week of was … 450 effective. I have 6s in MP and raise to 15 and get 2 callers (villain in button). Flop comes Q63. I check button bets 20 and I raise to 65. Other guy folds and button calls. Turn is an 8. I bet 90 and the button jams. I call because he is a wild player. He turns over Q8o. River comes an 8. This is just how my 6-7 weeks have been. I have made mistakes over that time, I always do, but I keep running into long odds for the villain and they hit.
@@RB-jf5ww
Exactly why we have bankroll management
@@RB-jf5ww You can't worry about variance, you want to get all in as a 70%-91% favorite as you did in this hand, 70% if he is suited with a flush draw after 8 on turn, 91% if he has no other draw than the 2 remaining Q's/8s.
Variance just happens.
I got in the game I play a few weeks in a row as a 2 to 1 favorite 4x, 3 to 1 3x, and against a 1 outter, and lost all eight of them.
This past week I got in 4 times at 90%, 67% twice, and 80% and all four won.
But in each game, I still called a small river bet when I only had a bluff catcher hand, and knew I was probably beat. In the moment you tell yourself well it's only $20, and there is a small chance the villain is bluffing.
In the long term if I do this 52 times a year, I'm throwing away $1040 every year. In ten years, that's $10,400.
Focus on what you are doing wrong, because that is what you can control, variance will take care of itself over the long term.
I think it's always good to assume "there is some bad luck and some bad play in this downswing". It seems like you are, which is a good place to start from. Just be sure you spend your time studying the hands you're pretty sure you misplayed and spend less time with the pure coolers...
The luck may fully be weighted to your Dec-Jul results. Good luck is as problematic as bad luck. The instances of people incorrectly viewing upside excursions as mostly being due to competency is immense. Until you get a few hundred thousand hands under your belt, it really is best to just view such results as positive variance.
Somone who counts / stairs at their chips too long especially when in a hand. Also what chips they use to raise / call
I count my chips. I like to know where I'm at especially compared to others.
I only do this when ive folded though
1. Players that talk too much. They are either drinking too heavily (#3 on my list), or like hearing their own voice too much. If they talking, then they aren't paying attention.
2. Players that says things like "cause it was suited" or "i can NEVER fold in that spot!" (I know u covered this in one of the topics)
3. The guy/woman who seems to have a drink constantly in their hand or in front of them...and doesn't stop.
4. Constant limping/not re-raising pre with hands that are obvious raises/3-bets. (Keep in mind that this is a normal scenario, and happens way more often than not)
5. Chases every draw down to the river, regardless of how big or small it is. For instance, chasing open-enders and flush draws...regardless of bet size/scenario.
6. Stays too long at the table, rarely wants to leave (Unless they went broke lol)
I got more, but this isn't my video.
one of the most talkative players in the world is also one of the best, Daniel Neg. So there's that.
@@jiveturkey8728 He's def an outlier. Lots of great pros talk a ton. It's their way to extract info. Most everyone else is just listening to their own voice and isn't trying to get reads.
The biggest tell that someone is a losing player is if they keep books on wins and losses. 99.9 percent of poker players in small to mid level poker casinos games are losing players. Because even an above average player can't overcome the rake. So players are happier to be in denial.
What you mean? If you talk about logging your stats, why would that be a sign of a losing player? I would say measuring what you win or lose is a good thing.
Unless you mean something else?
@@MichaelMuryn what I meant is losers don't keep records on wins and losses it's to painful 😖😣
Only winners keep records.
It's fun to keep records if you're winning.
Is calling 40bb allin against a 4 bet allin on bubble ok where opponent covers me ?
Nope read risk premium and understand ICM
A feel player... hmmmm. The thing is most players do not want to study the game, they just want to play. If you study and learn how the game works it will help you so much in decision making. "I got a read" loses in the long run to "I got the math" working for me.
Would I do anything differently?
Haha. Makes it so much more insulting narrated in such a deadpan, calm, and even tone
Being a calling station.
Never folding.
Drinking at the table.
I think what makes a lot of losing players is a failure to give up on value hands when the board changes.
A lot of older players at small stakes fall victim to this. If they have top top or an over pair, they just can't get away from it no matter the run out or action.
I suspect this and an inability to bluff on the river is the difference between a winner and a lower at small stakes. Also when their value bet sizes are too small, that probably hurts their results.
For me is loosing focus:
I play constaly nice for an hour slowly growin my chips, than I say just once I'm gonna play this odd hand out of position.
The flop puts me in a cringe situation in which I have to put some extra money because I have the mid pair (situation in which I wouldn't have been if I didn't play the damn hand in the first place).
Not having any idea on how to play from now on, unless I goes smoothly for me, I either make the fold under half pot raise pressure or make the call and he has the top pair (but mostly folding scenario).
And then somwtimes I'm focused enough to ignore and play better, but when after this I don't have any playable hands in like 2 table rows, I try a forced illogical bluff on a player that I should not try anything but play the nuts, I fold that to, and then the titlt kicks in 😂😂
And the other thing is that I'm not sure I'm getting payed as much as I should on good hands. This is mostly because I fail on putting opponents on ranges, especially when I have trips vs possible flushes and I sometimes prefer to not reraise the his raise, but as I find out often he raised his As not the flush😂😂
Now how do I fix the first 1...I guess discipline.
How do I fix second one. Well, try doing a better work putting opponents on ranges (but hooowww??? This retarded person 3bet my AJo, he got 4betted after that so I fold, but he called)
I don't exaclty remember what 4better had, but what I remeber is that I would have had a flowless flop pairing my J with 2 other undercard rainbow cards. Nobody actually did any action after flop. They check check check.
My guy the fucking 3better which called the huge 4bet had FUCKING 82 of clubs.
AND HE FUCKING WON THE POT PAIRING HIS 8 VS AK I think it was actually.
Sorry took my time to rewind where did I fucked up my profits this night, and remembered this😂😂
I'll disagree with sign 4. I can't count how many times I've been all in with the best hand and got sucked out on. Granted, that's usually when I'm short attacked in a tournament and I'm dealt pockets but hey.....
Hey, I just received your book today and I saw your channel here for the first time. What a coinkidink. Like getting Aces 8 times in a row and losing all pots.
More like getting AA twice in a row and winning both pots =P Enjoy your book Jayna!
I always go all in with 22
I never expect that to be a long term winning strategy in cash =P
I would think 99.9 of players are losing.The biggest statement I hear losing poker players say is "I hate pocket Aces"
🤣🤣🤣
That's a damn good sign, lol
Yeah but when you are as cursed as Anthony Young was during his "record" in the MLB... You might not play bad (at least with AA), but you will still end up being a losing player. :P
Or if they say AMERICAN AIRLINES
Sage advice! I noticed the first sign when Garrett claimed that Robbie always folds in certain spots so she have been cheating.
Cheers!
i NEVER call an all-in with J4o on a TT93 board. i guess that's why Robbi is better than me.
You always miss the shots you never take...
I never call an all-in with J4o...or is it J3o
Variances don't mind your attitude towards losses at poker table. 85+% players are losing players. With house rakes, poker is not a zero sum game, everyone loses to house rakes when everyone keeps playing to infinity.
The "what am I going to do if X card hits" is a process you should always go through when you make a bet. Also, "what percentage of the villains range does this board connect with?" Also, "Does the villain have a high tendency to bluff scare cards?", because in this case if you are OOP you can exploit his over-bluffing in this spot by just check calling.
That's the kind of thing that proactive thinking will help with, for sure Joe!
Calling all in with J 4 off suit
Good stuff. This explains why I suck. Lol
You can fix some of these things quickly Jorge =)
If I see someone have a very strong emotional reaction to a normal beat in a small or medium size pot, I know they're not truly a good player. It shows they have no mental game.
Also if they start talking about outs and "who this turn card is good for" -- alluding to ranges -- they are definitely bad.
The fact that they are *talking* about ranges at the table, or because they are thinking in terms of range?
@@ThePokerBank That they're talking about it.
I always remain objective. And a big part of that is knowing I'm never ever getting outplayed. It's crazy how useful that mindset is. For example, the only time I triple barrel bluff is when I know that fully turning the screws will make villains fold. The only time it doesn't work is when villians are cheating. When that happens...omg it's sooo obvious. They'll call it off with some crap that isn't even a real poker hand. It's good to be objective. And it's good knowing that any concerns about being outplayed simply don't apply to me. If you cheat me, you can damn well bet I will be securing a full and complete refund...post haste. Rotten no good cheating bastards.
Love the drip. Saucy.
I'm not giving back your $125K, I knew my J 4 was good
I found the guy wearing a Tommy Bahama shirt really don’t play so well 👍
That adds up ime
Tilting off buy ins
#1 - Not understanding the variance
That usually ties in with number 4 =)
@@ThePokerBank It shouldn't tie in with anything really , it is its own monster and if players knew how bad it can get they would be better prepared to plan and persevere through the downswings
Anyone who takes things personal and “aims” for another player to get them back for a pot they lost to them earlier in the session. Good luck!…lol
nicely said.
Ego has no place in poker. You gotta play without pride or passion.
Yeah someone the other night told me 2 guys were going at each other at the 1/2 tables throwing money around like crazy in a measuring contest and they both ended up donating to others 😆
wouldn't the average player, by definition, be break-even?
You basically described Phil Hellmuth.
Some how he wins😂
An inability to accept responsibility for foolish decisions is definitely one of them.
My buddy doesn't lose... he "gets screwed." The cards are cursed, his opponents got lucky, nobody else knows how to play right... that kinda stuff.
He is a bit of a narcissist and thats a definitely a trait of narcissists... bad things are done TO them, not because of them. In his head, he is already counting the money he won on the ride to the game. He expects to win big and gets steamed when he doesn't.
So naturally... we love beating him. 😆
He does the Phil Harmuth "relive the hand thing" every time and gets real steamed... goes over every move and then gets mad someone didn't do what he thinks they should have.
"Who the F calls with a pair of 6s?!?!? You are a terrible player!!" Even though they won lol.
And then makes his mission to defeat that one player out of spite and vengeance and takes stupid risks.
The car rides home are rarely fun. Especially if I came out ahead.
And we don't play high stakes w pros... we pay $100, $200 buy-ins with 7 or 8 friends in the basement. With 3rd getting their buy in back, 2nd makes a bill on top, and winner takes the rest.
Its not life changing. Rarely even a grand unless some people drop and re-up.
If we didn't all know each other for 25 years... we probably would hate him 🤣.
I've known him for 25 seconds and I can say wholeheartedly that I hate him, and would not invite him back to my funsy 100 buy in table
@@as3609 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
We were at a music festival, and our camp neighbor came by cus he heard us listening to the Frog Brigade cover of the Pink Floyd 'Animals' album. After a minute of chatting, he says "wow I like you guys, we got good neighbors" then looks at the guy I am talking about and says "except you. You suck....." and we all lost it. He was just kidding but of the 10 people to pick to make the joke, he picked him.
We told him we don't call him Steve "fxck sh!t up" Davis for nothing. (Changed the name to protect the innocent but we do call him "fxck sh!t up" cus he has a bit of a history of ruining stuff) 😆
I think the quickest way to spot a bad player is bet sizing. The right sizes are NOT intuitive and NOT what everyone does. If there are 4 lingers and a guy makes it 3bb, he pretty much suckes. Always. And same goes on all streets.
Being broke is a good sign also 😂
#3 is a fact… But that’s it!lol the other ones are silly.
I always never use the words "always" and "never".
Very clever
Always bet the farm on KK - Doyle Brunson
Bro Phil Hellmuth does every single one of these
Don't tap the tank bro.
There is a difference between knowing something and doing something with it
@@ThePokerBank this is true.
I dont do any of these and i am still a losing player, though i am improving a lot from leak tracker on poker tracker, i am still not using poker engines though , should i make the effort to learn how to use them ? i have been playing a few years and i dont think i am a total fish.
I'd guess that you are playing too loose from early position, and not often enough from the button. Check your poker tracker, and your profit by each position. 99.9999% lose money from the BB, and almost everyone loses money from UTG and UTG+1. Look at how much you have lost from those positions, and think of it this way, had you folded 100% of those hands, you would not have lost that money. Often, people would be winning players if they simply didn't look at their early cards and just folded everything, but they just have to play.
Once you understand that you are losing money early, only play premium hands, like AA, KK, QQ, AK from UTG, until you become winning player, then add other cards in later when you have a more solid foundation to your game.
@@danielhurst8863 Thanks but my pre flop play is pretty much perfect, i used pre flop charts for years and apart from 3 betting too much its right on , according to poker leak tracker i am much too sticky on the flop and the turn and i am also slightly under agressive, i am trying to fix these things but it is difficult.
@@mcpartridgeboy
Preflop play perfect?
@@cheat2win816 not perfecct in terms of always being correct, statistically according to poker tracker my pre flop play is as good as it can be with imperfect knowledge
@@mcpartridgeboy
I just don't get how u are a losing player as your preflop play is almost perfect
#7 play more than 3 hands/orbit on average
Sometimes they come in bunches! 😄
The bloke in the video said if you look at all possible poker players a small subsection are break even and an even smaller section are going to be making actual profit. I'm not convinced that this is true.
Large database analysis will convince you =)
@@ThePokerBank I'm willing to wager a lot of money that the subsection of profitable players is far far larger than those who are break even
If by breakeven you mean "purely 0bb/100", then you're 100% correct. If you define breakeven using something more reasonable, like "between -2bb/100 and 2bb/100 in smaller games", then I suggest doing some DB analysis...
People who love the word “call” seem to be pretty good at giving chips to other players
would never fold AA preflop in a cash game.
Those who limp from early position and those who buy short are usualsly signs of a losing player
I'm finding that I've been doing better buying in at max $800 in 2/5 than at my former $500...
Doubling up is more profitable and raises are more respected in my opinion when your stacks are larger.
He’s describing Phil Hellmuth
6: You go to the Two Plus Two forum for strat advice.
Burn
I objectively object
In today’s day and age, why is this book only offered in paperback?
It's offered as a downloadable book
It's paperback and digital (just not Kindle, since it's not a great format for Kindle imo). The digital/PDF is here: www.splitsuit.com/poker-preflop-math-workbook
Likes to gamble
That's worth a video in and of itself...
Everyone is a losing player, because of variance. Myth of poker pros just sounds glamorous.
This is a complete lie. There are literally players who have played millions of hands and have made significant amounts of money. I don't know how you can say that winning players don't exist with a sample size this big. The game is completely skill based in the long run.
@@jason6141 "Millions of hands" and "in the long run" really don't account for anything when you're holding trips and the other guy just drew a gut shot.
@@freemanchrisx It literally does though. Poker luck will eventually even out. Sometimes the villain gets lucky, but sometimes the hero gets lucky as well. Bad play loses money on average and good play wins money on average (if it is good enough to beat the rake, which it often is). The example you gave is unfortunate, but sometimes you might get it all in on the turn with the worst hand and hit the river (or something similar, idk how important the exact circumstance is). When you combine this with good game selection, I think it becomes pretty clear that there are winning players.
I'm not saying it is a good idea to gamble tho
@@jason6141 the only way you win at poker is to play fish.
Lol no How is it not luck in a large MTT. you are at risk to luck multiple times in any tournament. Kinda like all in with a set versus a flush draw like 3 times a tournament. On your 3rd time what you going to fold a set because your opponent wins 1/3 times. And it’s happened before already the field is aggressive soeveryone left in is a large stack.
Sounds like a university philosophy class.
Good sign they're a losing player: They're drunk :P
Sign #1 : I'm broke and haven't deposited in months.... 😅🤭
#1 losing players have to make CZcams content to support their gambling addiction
Yeah, I'd say the top signs you're a losing player is if you're limping into pots and calling to much, much worse than most of this list
I think I'll have to do a "strategic signs to spot losing players" video next =)
@@ThePokerBank in a small sample size your list won't show you who is a bad player, you have to have tons of conversation with someone for that info, maybe this is more for identifying if you're a losing player yourself, bc when I sit down I'm looking for whose limping in and calling to much, amongst other things, in order to exploit those players
No disagreement, and yes, this list is very useful for finding leaks in one's own game =)
Winning players are observant, humble, calculating, creative, and do all the things physical athletes do to optimize their brain/body and eliminate distractions so they can work on their game in efficient ways. Anyone not doing all of this is going to be losing because rake's a bitch.
Rake will be one of their losing factors =)