Hifiman ARYA vs HE1000se | HIFI Headphone Comparison
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The all black Arya just looks so good.
Yes it does!
@@JoshuaValour did you notice any difference on this Arya then the last one? Noticed it's the revision. I have the new version heading my way. My main headphone I use right now is a HD6XX so I'm hoping these blow me away.
@@luisnavarrete1602 so what do you think?
@@luisnavarrete1602 what did you think about the Arya?
@@JoshuaValour, “Arya” has but TWO syllables. 😊
I love the aesthetic of your videos. Your and DMS's style are like the Daft Punk-esque yin to Zeos' Hoarders season 3 yang.
😂
Except for the neck hair
@Sean Braylen No one cares you District 9 prawn
Josh, I gotta disagree with your treble assessment of the hd1000se. Mine is not like that. I think you gotta get your hands on another 1000se to compare it to. You may just have a bright 1000se. I got mine new in box and only have about 50 hrs on it since i got it this week. (trying to burn it in right no anyway to see if that does anything) (I have a gungnir multi and a mjolnir 2)
In my opinion the 1000se is the most detailed headphone I have out of the HD800S, LCD-4 and meze empyrean (also tried the 1000v2, lcd-3, lcd-3 and 6xx but those are not in the same class as the ones i just mentioned). The detail of the hd800s and the 1000se might be tied because they deliver the detail in different ways. The 1000se is more resolving, the 800s is more sharp and faster and may even separate better and sound more 3d however the 1000se sounds more holographic like listening to the master tape in the studio. The 1000se has more detail in the bass and can keep up with the lcd-4 but in a much less obnoxious way and sounds more balanced overall, like you are listening to a speaker. the 800s is like you are listening to a driver and has the widest soundstage it has is more trickery from the german engineering from the housing that is surrounding the driver. The 1000se has more soundstage from top to bottom where the 800s has more circular slightly larger soundstage. I would say the 1000se is the least fatiguing out of all my headphones. it's so smooth with the best instrument separation with all the detail and highs being there.
When switching from the lcd-4 to the empyrean to the hd800s over 100 times on 100 different songs I've concluded that the 1000se doesn't have less high end it is just presenting it in a smoother, fuller more beautiful and accurate way than the others. the other headphones sound brighter, but it is also trickery. They are peaking the frequencies either artificially or because they were just tuned that way while the 1000se is smooth all the way through naturally like a good set of studio monitors. The meze is a nice all rounder and prefer it to lcd-4 even though i think lcd-4 is a little more resolving but has the most bass. I would rank them as
1. he1000se (to mix with and most enjoyable by far)
2. meze empyrean (most comfortable and best build)
3 HD800s (to check your mix with, but least enjoyable but also still enjoyable in like you are playing with high powered microscope that can blind you at any moment kinda way)
4. LCD-4 (when you want an unbalanced bass explosion on your face, neck and chest)
I agree to this. I had all this headphones for trial at my place for a 2 weeks. The Arya v1, Arya 2nd revision, he1000v2 2nd revision, he1000se, Ananda, Edition Xv2 and HD800S. I got this ones in order to keep 3 headphones and return the others. My opinion is close to your opinion. At the end I kept:
HE1000v2 2nd revisión for the nice average sound, having a bit of the great points of the others but just average levels.
Edition X nice intimate/wide natural sound with nice low end. Like a HD600 with soundstage and more bass. Love.
HD800S simply the king of soundstage and the god for classical, jazz, orchestral, serious music. amazing for music that use actual microphones not just artificial sounds or synth like electronic.
Honorables mention for the 1000SE, sounds beautiful but sometimes I felt that there is something in between me and the music. Instruments like Brass sounds impactful but covered at the same time. The SE Fixed a lot of the problems of the Arya or he1000 but this thing in between was very weird. I loved but I preferred to expend my money on 3 headphones rather than 1.
So the Arya, I was expecting so much more. All this hype on CZcams and at the end was one of the last ones on my list. Is very similar to the he1000v2 but feels real cheap. All the headphones were old demos so I could see how the Arya aged and is the worst of the bunch by far even more than ananda. On the second revision the black cloth covering the driver was not fixed, the ear pads breaking, the yotes scratches showing the silver metal. I just like how it portrays the bass on the soundstage, that was enjoyable, around 70% the HD800soundstage.
I recommend Josua giving more examples on serious music. Not music with 3 chords, huge single voice inside your head and not many microphones. Not enough to judge this amazing headphones.
Great take man! You are spot on! My fav headphone is the empy! I love the sound signiture.
exactly
Footage is beautiful - and great comparisons too Josh. Thanks for working hard to produce vids like these!
You are one of the best reviewers I have ever seen on youtube period regardless of subject. Keep it popping Joshua! Thanks for your excellent and hard work!
My ears are obviously different ... But I have an Arya , and I went to audition a he1000se the other day ....
I disagree completely with this comparison , the Arya does not have the bass you keep harping on , it is definitely invisible , but it's not as impactful as your words are making it out to be. I found the he1000se bass to be much more detailed and impactful , even smoother than the Aryas. The He1000se to me actually had LESS hot of a S range and the treble region sounded muuuuch more detailed but at the same time EXTREMELY SMOOTH and relaxing . It's like I could listen to all that detail and it didn't hurt my ears at all ... I can't say the same for the Arya , I definitely get fatigued after a while with the Arya. The S region on it is very very very hot for me. Soundstage sounded slightly bigger on the he1000se and the sounds pushed out further to the sides and it was an audible different that it was doing this, certainly not placebo. For reference I tested with my own amp and dac , topping A90 and d90
I think there are variations in the production chain like Audeze.
For me the HE1000SE is like a razor edge, i need to EQ it.
Agreed I love my HE1000SE over my Arya non stealths
Exactly what I heard too!
You are in line with all other reviewers .
Seems like Joshua is going in a oposite direction.
Hi Joshua, another nice review from you!!! Inspired by you now i am also enjoying music with Arya, using the DROP THX AAA 789 as the amplifier. In your opinion is it better sound using middle gain but playing at 2 o'clock position or high gain at 11 o'clock? It's indeed one demanding headphone that require me to consider using high gain on the amp!!
Bought my Arya after your original video back in the day. Love it still!
Thank you for the brilliant video! I've been using HE-1000v2 for a while, and to my understanding the sound signature of SE is somewhat similar v2.
Haven't yet had a chance to hear Arya, but you've been raving about it for a while, and after watching this video, I definitely am more interested in maybe adding Arya to my collection!
+ Arya looks sick. 1000SE does as well, but that all black look!
I'm interested in the v2. In your opinion, what the soundstaging and imaging like on those headphones?
V2 and SE are very different. V2 is more lay back, SE is more like an Utopia..
Hey guys would you say the SE is as detailed as the Senn HD800 for detail and technicality
@@godtiermedic HD800 trash headphones. there FR very poor. Sound is to harsh and mid range is shit.
Hey guys i have the Se and the Arya. The se is more like the v1 sound which presents a but more detail at you which I love. The V2 is a but closer to a slightly more detailed arya sound. I also have the HD800 non but they just don't compare even in stage or quality of detail retrieval but they are a great intro to comfort and higher end sound. I really don't like the utopias for some reason so Se over utopia for me. Haven't tried any Abyss though.
Outstanding video. Loved the information, the presentation and the B-roll.
Do I really need more resolution than the Arya SE supplies..? probably not.. It takes a while to burn an Arya in, but once done, to me, it is just the right amount of everything.. the sound is detailed, organic and ethereal in a way..
@ Josh - When listening to jazz, I enjoy picking out the individual instruments and hearing how a given musician interacts with the other band members. This kind of listening highlights the genius of the greats. I can do this on the Arya, but would the HE1000SE make this easier? What other headphones would you recommend for this? Thx.
A lot of the recent reviews have dealt with gear that I find interesting and either own (e.g. IER-Z1R) or simply enjoy (e.g. HE1000se/Arya).
Back when I listened to these 2 at my local dealer I remember thinking that they sounded similar with the HE1000SE being an upgraded Arya. I don't remember there being a significant difference in staging for example. Think I need to go back and pay closer attention.
Please do. I'm interested in the soundstaging aspect of both.
You might not delve in technically as deep as some of the other reviewers out there, but your visual presentation and verbal expression of what these listening instruments subjectively feel like to actually listen to is unmatched. Great comparison.
^thats it
This is the first comparison, I really understand where the difference are and how the headphones sounds like. I will receive an Arya tomorrow. Hopefully I will understand what you are loving in this headphone ;-)
@dandelion It looks like he got sucked right into his music a year ago and still hasn't been able to take those hadphones off... ;)
Do you have any plans for reviewing the the quad era-1?
I had an Arya for a few years and at the time it was my TOTL can. I enjoyed it as it was a fun experience but I always felt like I was missing something and the there was a lack of clarity. I bought the HE1000v2 (OG) and, to me, the level of musical pleasure increased across the board. More musical, better and clearer bass, much more detail and super balanced. IMO, the HE1000v2 is the better headphone and the current cost is around $1,900 - $2,000. I bought mine 'open-box' for around $1,600. I sold the Arya and have never looked back. Note: the many reviews of the HE1000 SE are like Josh said: softer and very detailed and less "fun". The OG He1000v are FUN.
@@provisionalhypothesisHe couldn’t have known that at the time though, so…..
Great review. I demo'd the 1000se and Arya recently among a few others. I found these two to be amazing and the sound signature ticked all the boxed for me. With the 1000se I was looking for more from the low end (a bit more bass). With the Arya I felt it was too narrow on the mid and highs and I wanted more width. I feel a headphone which has the high and mid of the 1000se and the low of the Arya would be the perfect match. I haven't yet found a model that matches this description. Any ideas? But the Aryas compete closely to the 1000se so in terms of value for money it makes sense to choose them but if you can find the 1000se used in good condition I would say go with the 1000se.
The HP you're hoping for is probably the Susvara if you can amp it properly.
I feel the one you demoed were not burned in. They need minimum 150 hours of burn in before analyzing them properly...
Just EQ the SE
Isn't the THX 887 too dry for Arya, I heard some tube amp goes perfect with it
Thank you very much for this wonderful review. Can you please review ZMF Verite and compare to Arya and Diana v2? May Choroszcz shine upon you!
Loved to try these high end headphones.
Maybe I didn't look hard enough but I'm trying to find out if you EQ when testing headphones/IEMs?
I love the look of the HE1000. Also I think your reviews tend to be more analytical than consumer guide, just something I struggled with until I figured it out.
Yeah as someone who generally just listens to music for enjoyment! I don’t know half the time what these reviewers are talking about 🤣
need i say it again? excellent video once more, Josh!
What headphone stands do you use the the arya/h1000? Since the earcups are bigger with normal stands the connectors touches the base.
Great review thanks! Question: I'm looking for a pair of really good headphones that will give me a great experience listening to my music. I'm leaning towards open back headphones because I have a pair of Shure SE846 in ear headphones I use for travelling and commuting. The Arya, 1000 se or v2 seem like the best options but what would be the closed back equivalents of these if I wanted to replace my in ear headphones. Thanks.
I can only suggest to replace / complement Shure with Shure.. I have both SE846 and 1540 (close back). While the sound signature is similar, SE846 is more technically profficient when it comes to mids and highs.. 1540 is not a slouch, but not quite on the same level.. there is plenty of bass with the stock pads (may be too much in the beginning, while burning in)..
Have you reviewed the klipsch in the background?
it would be dope if you did reviews of overall companies. sennheiser vs beyerdynamic, hifiman vs audeze etc... i would like to hear your overall opinion given that you have heard so much more than i have.
What kind of cable would accentuate the bass on the Arya?
I have the Area and the He6se v2...., and it seem to me like
the v2 is more precise and has more Details, also the Stage seems
to be a bit larger. But the Arya sound is more compact and pleasant,
also the Bass is deeper. But since 1 Month iam using a prof. and very warm sounding
analog EQ in my Chain, the Drawmer 1974. Iam using it mainly for the He6se v2...,
and now the Bass is so big i cant believe it. I use the Freq. at 30-40 Hz and adjust it from 0-6db
and i also sometimes cut the Highs at 12KHz 2-3db. And now for me the v2
is the better HP now, over the Arya. Thats crazy (: But in spite of this iam very
curious for the Sound of the SE...Thanks for your great Reviews ***👍🙏🌈 ☀️
Waiting for them to send you the Susvara to see if it tops the Arya for you
Josh, have You heard LCD2-C? How it cold be compared to Arya?
On sound signature, the Hifiman beat the shit out of the Sennheisers. Not even a competition.
Yes agreed my He1000se and even Ananda sound clearer and extend lower than my HD800
I have a question and I apologize in advance for how basic it must be for everyone in this world and channel: I just bought and am still to receive the Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO headphones, as well as a THX AAA 789 amp, and thought that I was all set to enjoy music from my computer on a whole new level and get started in this audio world. Today I learned that I need a DAC! Can someone please advise what DAC model o models are suitable for that set up? Thanks!!
I think it's time we discuss the REAL question here....
Is Joshua Valour's prodution TOO good? I can't be alone here. He's making everyone else's videos feel lacklustre!
I really enjoy listening to the Arya Stealths, but orchestral music, especially in the string section, does not sound natural and has almost a wavey shimmering effect like the driver is having trouble moving fast enough for the strings to sound smooth. Outside of that, I think the Aryas can hardly be beat for price and overall performance.
Arya is just a beast, seen many audiophiles prefer them to the likes of LCD4 or HeK. I'd love to see a comparison from you between them and the Susvara
That's not a very fair comparison but sure if the arya even remotely competes with the susvara I would be very impressed.
susvara competes with le jardin
Hi is 1000se punchy and can be used to metal listening? Thank
I'm using cayin iha-6 amp for the Arya with ifi neo dac. Sounds great.
a very honest and detailled review. Plus arya is more accessable. the 1000 cost already like a second hand car
Hey Josh, noob question, but when talking about using the iDSD Pro with the HE1000se to add a little smoothness and warmth, couldn't one do the same with EQ?
Also, not related to the video, but do you have any opinions on the HD800 vs. HD800S strictly for competitive gaming? One better than the other? Any DACs or amps to recommend?
Relatively new to the audio world but been loving your videos!
They are both pretty much endgame TOTL gaming headphones. I actually think the HD800S is a little more immersive sounding because of the “added” bass, but they are both pretty much spectacular. If you take them mainly to game, take the ones that cost less, if you are thinking of taking them for both music l and gaming I actually think the HD800S is slightly better than its predecessor.
Adding distortion to a three grand ultra precision headphone.
Wasting money is the phrase that pops into my head.
@@hamedshahr I see. Thanks for the input!
@@PC-yw9co Any comparisons regarding positional accuracy in game?
Listening to this video on my Hifiman 400i set through my Apollo Twin, and your audio/voice sounds so crisp. Even more so than what it sounds like through my Dynaudio Lyd48 3way studio monitors. But i think that crispness is partially due to a lack of mid range energy, some of which is probably saved for the Ananda and Arya. My reason for saying this is, on my Dyns, your voice is not as crisp up top, but it is more full. It has more presence, and is, thus, more realistic. That obviously makes the listening experience greater. Then again, I paid $150ish for my 400i cans. I paid over a grand a piece (and that was with a loyalty discount :) for my sweet Dyns (which i highly recommend to any producer or musician who needs a clean flat presentation of their music for mixing and mastering purposes). Anyhow, youre talking, I'm rambling :) Great vids. 3rd day watching and they just get better and better. Good job brother. - Jonathan
@Steve W. Since i first wrote this, i have sold my 400i and have been using the Hifiman Ananda for the last year. It is, to me, the perfect headphone. Like explained above with the Arya, i just get lost in the music with the Ananda. Every time. That, to me, is the essence of a great listening experience. So I'd say skip the 400i and get the Ananda if you can afford them. If not, get the Sundara, which sounds similar but doesnt have the visceral bass experience the Ananda has. If you can afford an upgrade from the Ananda, I'd start with the Arya. However, i love my Ananda so very much that I cannot image how much sweeter the Arya will be. One day, if i find the money to do so, i will buy the Arya :)
as always, phenomenal video.
I see that Bluesound streamer in the background. Teaser ?
Can you review the Ifi Hip dac?
What are they like for gaming?
I wanted to ask between AUDEZE EL8 and HIFIMAN ARYA the better of the two. thank you
hey josh....i think that the arya is revised with a darker mesh on the earcups...are you aware of that?
Have you tried DCA Ether 2? Having a really hard time deciding between the Ether 2 or Arya.
Arya is definitely a safe bet, but ether 2 seems to be a more exotic and special choice. Ether 2 is lighter and more comfortable. I would go with ether 2 unless you have a beard
How does arya compare to abyss fullsized ?
People who buy the SE will have higher resolving amps and DAC's.
I believe it to be a misrepresentation to test and compare the SE on a sub 1k amp - which will not be able to show the full potential of either of these headphones.
The best way to test transducers is with a chain as high end and resolving as possible to check how well they scale and how far down the line they still sound good.
And even then synergy and tonality/timbre are very important factors.
lol. I guess this is why you didn't respond to my comment on the last video: you already had this in the works! Thank you so much.
I own both the Arya and HE1000SE. The HEKSE is far better technically but less forgiving of bad recordings. However, I listen mainly on tube amps, and the HEKSE is a very engaging, musical headphone. My other top pick for a different sound altogether is the ZMF Verite Ltd on Glenn Studios OTL amp, but I enjoy the HEKSE a bit more for its airy sound with notes just popping out of nowhere
You can use the HEKSE with otl amps? I'm looking at a Glenn myself. How does Glenn amps do with low impedance planars?
hey man i’d really appreciate your opinion on this. i’ve got the arya now and i love it’s airiness, soundstage and imaging but it just lacks the punchy slamming base i want even when i turn it up to uncomfortable volumes.
i’m now choosing between the he1000se and verite open, could you compare them and say which you prefer pls?
does the he1000se have stronger more slamming base than the arya and how does it compare to the verite open ?
are the airiness, soundstage and fr in the high end significantly better in the he1000se than the verite?
sry i realise i’ve left an essay in a 1 year old comment but it’s so hard to find comparisons between these headphones besides a couple youtube vids lol any help would be much appreciated
@@chriswheal8204 I have both, and I would say the SE has much better airiness and soundstage compared to verite. The verite is a lot warmer in comparison and depending on pads options, you can tweak the sound a lot. Comfort wise, the SE is much better, no question. The verite for me isn't as comfortable as a lot of people say they are. The Verite does slam better than the SE. I don't have the arya but my impression is they are similar to the SE in a lot of ways. If you are looking for slam specifically, you can consider the utopia as well, which is at similar price range as the SE with great frequency response and wearing comfort. It's staging is small but imaging is exceptionally good. What the Verite is great at is timbre and naturalness of the sound. Depending on what you prioritize, they are all great options.
What is HEKSE headphone? I can not find it anywhere
@@ightimmaheadout290I believe it’s short for the HE1000SE. They just replace the 1000 with a K
Hey would the Shiit jotunhiem be good for the Arya? especially using balanced xlr?
i had the jotuhhiem with the arya . i since upgraded. it was a fine match. :) i did end up getting more detail since upgrading . however the arya on the jot was still far better than the lcd 2c , and 6xx i had heard on it .
Hmm I have the he1k v1, not sure if I should get the se.
Just waiting for the Arya to price drop at 1,200$ xD
I think it is already around that price when you buy from China/HK.
Hope you gain more subs! you really deserve it with such great videos :)
I bought mine new for $1400 from authorized reseller and have full warranty. Look around. Authorized resellers must advertise at MSRP but don't have to sell at MSRP. 🤔😉
@@NosferatuSRT where did you get them?
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What is the definition of technical bass? Wouldn't detail be considered technical?
Arya is awesome! I've heard them on multiple amps and a cheap Schitt Heresey makes them sing! Also, bass is great but a little EQ down low and they slam just as hard as my Fostex TH900. Truly endgame headphone!
Hey. May ask how your Arya's are fairing? Have you had any problems with them at all? I've been looking into getting a pair but heard not so good things about Hifiman in regards QC issues and longevity. Thanks.
@@jamesmoore4827 no issues works fine. Buy and enjoy. I've heard the same too but mine are good.
@@NosferatuSRT Thanks.
Excellent review!
sooooo close to getting the Aryas 🖤
Which is best for classical music ?
I'd like Arya SE v H1000SE comparison. Worth the upgrade or just sell the children and go straight to Susvara?
Arya this and Arya that, dude. I dont like expensive headphones but i might break my own rules here. I almost want one.
Did you end up buying one?
I'm up early for this one, or so I thought until I saw the early comments from patreon lol.
There were on 3 of them.
Don't know if i should get the hd 800s. arya. audeze x i produced music and make it but i also game a decent bit
HD 800 S. They should also be the most durable of the bunch.
Neutral? the Arya. Gaming? the 800S. pick your poison.
Hd800s for everything or arya for music your choice but if it was me I would buy the800s
I splurged and got the HE1000se and the wood is not just for looks as it is viewable on the inside it seems. There is a specific warming of the sound for what otherwise would be an even more analytical set but the change is something like changing earpads so there but not huge huge. The detail retrieval over my Aryas is noticeable and I consider my Aryas not in the same league for detail yet my phone even drives the HE1000SE even louder. I may be mistaken but to me the soundstage feels similar but it feels like the Arya's drivers are slightly further away and I believe it is specifically because of the magnet thickness and number of magnets and sure I'll say it the Arya not having curved/stealth mags. The HE1000se sound is my endgame for sure and the Aryas are superior to my HD800 non s in soundstage and bass and less ear pearcing haha. Hope this helps someone.
There stealth magnets now
I think I will end up buying arya if I continue to watch your videos.
Just do it! No regrets!
I bought mine after watching Joshua and Andrew’s review from The Headphone Show. Was mulling over Arya or Focal Clear for a long time but decided I wanted my first planar. No regrets but I’d take his comment about requiring a powerful amp quite seriously.
@@jollyrioger2572 I have an ifi zen dac. Is it powerful enough?
i usually like all black a lot but the wood and sandblasted metal is sooooo godly
It's no real wood, just a cheap finish. As good as Hifimans are sound wise they are fooling us with subpar materials and questionable build quality. Sound alone isn't the complete package.
@@joggometer5393 Last I checked wood veneer is still wood in a sense. Still, imperfections are more easily spotted on wood veneers and their longevity is in question. Tbh, I would have preferred a machined thin metal layer over a thin wood veneer one. Hifiman never really could get a handle on incorporating wood in their cans (e.g. HE-5 and HE-560 both experienced cracking).
I splurged and got them and the wood is not just for looks as it is viewable on the inside. There is a specific warming of the sound for what otherwise would be an even more analytical set but the change is something like changing earpads so there but not huge huge. The detail retrieval over my Aryas is very noticeable and I consider my Aryas not in the same league for detail yet my phone even drives the HE1000SE even louder. It's my endgame for sure. Hope this helps someone.
@@joggometer5393 IT IS REAL WOOD. HERE IS LINK TO PICTURES OF THE HE1000se taken apart and the wood is the actual driver outside and inside. www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/he1000-disassembly-internals.603/
@@mikehunt9832 IT IS REAL WOOD. HERE IS LINK TO PICTURES OF THE HE1000se taken apart and the wood is the actual driver outside and inside. www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/he1000-disassembly-internals.603/
Did you try them balanced? Wondering if that makes a difference as I have a true balanced amp on order.
I'm not sure if he did. I wouldn't think running them balanced would change the signature for either to any great extent. If anything it might sell the Arya's a bit more since running balanced will increase the amperage. he mentioned they are a little harder to drive of the two. I haven't heard the SE's but do have the Aryas and have them balanced simply due to the extra power.
@@greymatterstome I've run the Sundara's balanced on a 789 and you can tell a difference. There's just more there.
@@StrikitRich Fair enough. More power from an amp is likely to open up any headphone and make them more revealing. I am only suggesting that the sound signature or tuning, between the two i.e more relaxed vs. more reference shouldn't alter greatly with the greater amperage from a balanced output.
Can someone mix and master on the Arya?
You are right,
the timbre of the Arya is much better, the SE is borked in the highs and upper highs, you have to EQ that to make it listenable for anything but Classic and Jazz.
EQ the SE into Aryas/Anandas tonality and it will blow your mind - it becomes scaaary good. Source: Trust me bro.
Video's title says Ayra - just a heads up. Cheers.
Thanks, he changed it.
Thanks!
@@JoshuaValour how does the ARYA compare with the HEDDPhone. Please I need your opinion on which one I should get. Thank you.
@@tendayimavhima the headphone show did a comparison
If the amp/dac is a very meaty sound then you need a the 1000se rather than the Arya, if the dac amp is analytic then you want the arya
My Arya left driver died. I am on the fence getting a HE1000 Stealth or H1000se, can't make up my mind.
What i understand from your review give or take HE1000 sounds like my DT 1990, Arya sounds like my Ananda. 1990 have a feeling of forced detail and make me feel like i'm listening the recording. Ananda is smooth and make me feel like i'm listening the music. Though i still like a bit more excitement. 1990 is too much but Ananda is too soft. Ananda also have that ''boxy'' vocals like Arya too. Vocals seems a bit dry.
Arya seems like my dream headphone but they are too expensive for me. $699 Ananda great deal. I guess Arya is more exciting/dynamic and bigger soundstage version of Ananda which definitely what i want.
pls do another review with Arya stealth version instead
my first headphone was a jecklin float, first I, then upgrade to II, late 70s....very spacy....
I wonder, how these newer generation would compare to this maybe first, hifi-headphone ?!
but I guess, your generation would not know this mathusalem, once a legend....
sort of like the diana...
The jecklin float was a swiss manufactured electrostat right? My dad told me about them and he loved them.
@@Florianski yes, was way ahead avantgarde at the time, about 700, the I, 800 the II DM ! dad with god taste 👍
@@konradherrmann3213 in switzerland you can sometimes still buy them used for around 500 swiss francs. Can they compete with the new stax electrostats?
Hifiman is my favorite headphones and my opinion is that the Ananda and the Arya are very similar the SE is my favorite.
@Steve W. I like the He1000 V2 more then the se and in opinion is the V2 the best of hifiman and every penny worth
@Steve W. The susvara needs a strong amp and then it is really good but in the ears it is to small for me.
Please review T2 plus
Nice speakers, I have the set myself
Why 1000se needs amp more than Arya do? There impedance and sensitivity are very close.
No, check the specification
Interesting that you say this Josh, I have to say that I found the same experience going from the Edition X V2 to the Arya. The Arya sounds like I am listening to seperate instruments that are not blended as well. The Edition X v2.0 has better sub base and blending of the music, it sounds warmer but still has 80-85% of the details. I think once you pass edition x v2 levels you start to get into listening to individual tracks rather than a song - You are no longer really listening to music anymore and it loses its magic, the same way eating everything from an expensive meal individually rather than mixed together as it's meant to be. This makes everything too strong in flavour individually!
The biggest thing people fuck up with this is watching reviews and buying online. Go and try headphones or audio gear before buying, ALWAYS. Number one rule by miles. Reviews just give you models to test based on theoretically what you prefer sound signature wise
Some of us have no choice but to buy online and try them....example.
I live in st Louis and there is not even one store that has these high-quality headphones to listen to
I agree, the demo units are not available to everyone or everywhere. Its not even practically possible. Have to decide on the reviews.
Speakers or headphones. Budget is 2k. Which do you think you get the most out of?
I own the arya for reference
interestingly this rewiew goes against pretty much all 200+ pages of the hifi threads on this headphone lol
So you're saying they're even better than something like Beats? 😁😁
Hahaha, man your reply made my day!!!😂👌
Maybe. But they surely can't stand against skullcandy
Les Paul A true audiophile’s pick lol
No he didn't say that, that's why no one ever makes an he1000se vs beats, beats have no competition
@@CaptainBroadSword No way
Which BGM is this?
Yeah, the Arya would be the one for me.
I know this is old ish in CZcams world now 😅
But is there a headphone out there (by Hifiman?) that sounds like Arya but not built like the Arya?
Hifiman ananda
@@stevendavis1135 I actually had the Ananda. It was a little too much in the top end for me personally
Nice review. Arya vs HE1000se? ¿Por qué no los dos?
welp, i think you just sold me on the Arya's...Cheers
Arya was the best in violin and string music, and Susvara was also good in classical music. But for jazz, lcd4 was much better. If you listen to normal pop music, hifiman is just a high-performance headphone. The balance is good, but the sound is too light and bright.
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I think what happens is you get a level of detail where you can hear a person's saliva and reality is, in real life at a live venue, you wouldn't hear that much. So these high res headphones on the top tiers are a bit hyperreal than it is representative of what you'd hear if in the studio.
i disagree. lots of engineers mix in a hd800s/lcd-4 etc. why would you not check your mix in a hifi headphone and even work mostly in it? (I am an audio engineer)
@@anthonysmithjr.7388 I agree with your logic and can't speak to the field itself. All I was suggesting was the mic picks up more detail than the ear would actually normally hear itself, then you get headphones like the HE1000 where it puts detail in your face you don't normally hear. I think if you mix the track well, it'll likely sound great and natural, but in my experience most tracks are not mixed well. I have the Focal Utopia and Stellia and while some music sounds excellent, some sounds like it has more detail than real life. As if it's saturated. Or a drum/sharp string has more slam than it really does.
6:57 what is an evil amount of detail? hhiihihihihiihihi
He1000se is just a hifiman version of the Sony mdr sa5000
A wrong review, same amps cant be used for these headphones. He1000se needs very warm high quality(costly) JFET/Bipolar Class A amps and mid and bass centric dac like x26 pro
I have an Arya and 1more quad iem. Should I get Sony Z1R?
No. Get one of the ZMF closed-back haadphones if you need closed back
I have Arya and zmf verite closed. Great combo!
I have Z1r and Arya . Great combo if you want a complimentary headphone to go along with the Arya ...
I get this unusual crackle on my right channel of my Arya like ants running over thin foil. It came like this, can anyone comment on any similar experiences or do you think I got a dodgy driver?
It's normal , don't put pressure on the sides with your hand , the air is becoming compressed inside and it's moving your driver , hifiman use extremely thin drivers which can move with little pressure , this is normal
I'm still dreaming about the Empyreans.
I dreamed about the empy literraly. In my dream’s it sounded like a warm, heavenly yet detailed headphone. Finally, I find my sound signature! Then I wake up. I bought the empyrean and when I put it on my head and started to listen… my dream come true. It was the same sound signature just like in my dream! Fcking insane I know, but it’s true!
@@combojohn7953 Oh I got them :D
If you love the sound of Arya, you'll love the HEDDphone, they're basically/literally Arya on steroids. However, 700g is heavy for long sessions.
I hope they will introduce whole new line up with an acceptable weight. Heddphone seems like experimental headphone. Nice to audition and experience but not nice to own and use imo. Arya has the crown.
thankx Jek. I have followed closely the two and I think I may just pull the trigger on the HEDDphone
Xcept the bass roll of no?