Hifiman Comparison: He1000v2 vs Arya SE vs HE6SEv2
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- čas přidán 20. 02. 2022
- Pretty good shoot out here. I’ve got the HE6SEv2, which you know I’m a fan of, the Arya Stealth Edition (thanks to Hifiman), and a HE1000v2 (thanks to a friend of the channel). They are all wonderful headphones, but I think the overall winner is the HE1000 (I have sense purchase one, that probably tells you what you need to know). Check out the vid for more details.
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Headphone #3: OG NIghthawks: (look used)
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I just got an HE6SE-V2. I think it's really worth mentioning how competitive it is with these others at its street price. With the correct URL extension, you can legitimately buy these NEW at Adorama for $550. The fact that they are very competitive with headphones 3-4x their price speaks extraordinarily well for their sound quality. They're truly fantastic and an all-time audio bargain. I paid $1000 for my pair, but that's because they were not only heavily modded, but came with an extremely nice cable. I would still heartily recommend them stock at that price, but again, you're realistically paying much much less. Great comparison though!
Nice video. The HE6se V2's can be just about magical with the right amp. I am SO curious about the HE1000 headphones.
Great review. I had a 1000V2 for 4 years and was delighted by it’s sound every single time I strapped it on my melon. I couldn’t wait for the NEXT song to hear what would be there! You hit the nail on the head with this baby. 👶🏻
So why you gave it away? ;)
@@Konspiration100 I sent it back to HFM for the 1000SE upgrade
@@chickenheads3746 ty for answering
Great review and comparison of 3 of my favorite headphones!
You’re blessed to have great people in your life and you’re obviously paying it forward to us so thank you. Onwards to the next.
Great comparison
Thanks for the review. I think Arya sounds like the perfect complement to my Aeolus that I was looking for. Aeolus is dynamic, intimate and warm and relaxed, Arya with neutral, wide, bright sound should be a great second headphone.
I agree
Excelent comparation.
I don't have much experience with Hifiman headphones as I have only tried the Sundara and the he560 v4, but both I thought were the absolute best sounding for their price brackets. They are just great all-around. Love their sound signatures, detail seems to be above all else, and great separation. I don't think you can really go wrong with Hifiman at this point.
Very nice review - thanks for that ! I'm happy owner of HE6SEv2 and will not upgrade to any higher model as it was bought on promotion and sound fenomenal with SMSL SU-9 DAC and ifi iCan Pro/or Emotiva BassX A100. I also use Ether Flow 1.1 but HE6SEv2 are so natural and their openess is insane. Everything sounds without effort. Impact, detail, smoothness are TOP !
I am getting back into audiophile gear after a long hiatus (back in college I worked at a high end audio store) and owned many systems my favorite being planar speakers such as large Magnepans with ribbon treaters. I am looking to get that open sound from headphones and am starting from scratch - need both DAC/AMP and headphones. Unfortunately all of the high-end audio stores closed near me (all big box garbage now) with the closest HIFIMAN dealer being some 500 miles away in California.
With that background I have been looking at reviews and appreciate your review MrAryit and am torn between the Arya Stealth and HE1000 V2 which as Pickles & UFOs pointed out have dropped in price. I am thinking of getting a Chord Mojo 2 to drive the headphones reading about Chord's amazing new DAC at a good price compared to the rest of the Chord line plus I like the idea of being able to have a "portable" system not tied to my desk. My question is has anyone tried either the Arya Stealth or the HE1000 V2 with the Mojo 2...if it has enough power top drive them comfortably and how it sounds?
Haven't finished watching yet but that you got your hands on all these for the comparison.
Would be dope if you managed to get in the edition XS for comparison
Hifiman sent me one, so I have it, it’ll be a bit before I get to it though.
really enjoy and appreciate your videos now I need your help please. I have Schiit Bifrost 2 and jot 2 set up. between the Arya stealth and the he6sev2 on that set up which would you prefer? thanks
I would fully agree, that the Hifiman Arya Stealth sounds a tad wider, when replacing the included cable with another one (e.g. Ananda Stealth). With the quarter-inch cable it sounds more intimate and details are more directly discernible, as the are slightly more "in your face".
Hifiman cables are a joke, Im using my Ananda SM which is really cheap nowadays (350$) with high quality custom cable. To be honest for me it is better headphone than Arya V2 that I owned in past, for sure it has got better timbre and its not harsh at highs. IMO it is not worth to buy any ~1000$ headphones if Ananda exists for 350$ 😅 Hifiman killed them all with new prices
Thank you for the review!
Have you tried the Meze Empyrean?
I don't know if I should upgrade to the Empy or Arya. I'm coming from HD600
I haven’t had the chance to try the higher end Meze stuff yet. Hopefully soon.
wheewww big money bois
Nice comparison.I like your reviews Mr.Ayrit. since you tried Vio electric v280 , my question is will it drive he6se V2 with full authority? Thanx 👍
I thought it did, and thanks.
@@MrAyrit thanx for reply . According to your experience which amp is best for he6se v2 and hd650 ?
@@piyusho1 I really lliked the HE6 with the v280. I have a Mjolnir gen 1 right now, and think that would be pretty great too. I'm probably not the best to recommend an amp for the 650, because I wasn't a huge fan of that headphone. I liked it with the Little Dot MK2 w/ Vokshood tubes.
I have been trying to upgrade from the LCD-2f (2016), but as yet, I have not found a clear winner.
The LCD-X 20121 had their detail and better tuning out of the box, but the 2f was just better at rest. The 2f just stirs you.
Next was the Arya SE. It was a bit like the LCD-X, with fine detail and a big soundstage, but at times vocals were way off and not intimate at (I don't mean I want it super close) all. It came off as sitting in a room with the singer, but on some tracks, when its meant to be more up close, it was not with the Arya.
I am now left (budget-wise) with the He1000v2. So I wonder if you have heard the 2f before and how it compares with the H21000v2.
Thanks
It's funny, my setup is the Arya SE, Singxer, and Bifrost 2 which are all products you mentioned in the video. I have been very happy with all of them but what's an upgrade path you'd recommend? Any tips for bringing out the best in these particular components? Very nice video by the way.
This one OUGHT to be answered :)
Did you ever try out high gain volume bypass on the HE6? It's a pretty drastic leap in control, clarity, and separation. I almost can't even listen to my Soloist unless it's in volume bypass mode, I just toggle between gain stages and adjust volume with a passive preamp.
This feature was just brought to my attention. I have yet to test it a whole lot.
Nice work! I agree HiFiMan has it going on right now. IMO their more recent generations tend to have the largest number of strengths and lowest number of drawbacks at their respective price points. I've seen claims that the Arya makes the HE1000v2 superfluous, which utterly baffles me. To me it's the other way around where the ability to score a HE1000v2 in the $1800-2k range makes the Arya a tougher sell. The one downside there is the HE1000v2's treble can be a bit hot when paired with the wrong amp. IMO you need a smoother, less-treble forward amp to pair it with. I like the Violectric sound with it. The Headamp GS-X Mini was a bad match. Keep up the good work!
Is Burson Conductor 3X Performance a good match for He1000 V2?
I just bought and waiting on the the GSX mini to pair with my he1000 V2 and now I see this 💔😔
@@sanlo7793 It is !
Very cool..., I love your Review..."
I own the 6sev2 and the Kv2...
and must say the 6sev2 has
some Magic..., the Kv2 dont have...
I use a SMSL D400EX DAC, a pretty good
Supra Excalibur USB Cable and an Audio-GD
Master 19 Headphone Amp. I must say
ima pretty happy with this Rig. The Sound
is so real and natural..., pretty holgraphic
and detailed. The He6sev2 has a mega wide
Stage and sometimes i prefer the He6s ev2
especially for spaceful Ambient, Sphere Music....
This Headphone is a Steal...I could easilly live
with only he He6se if i wouldnt have my
Kv2 Headphone. What i want to say, the He6se
v2 has the most Potential with the right DAC
and Hheadphone Amp..." May be its actualy
a Baby Susvara...(:
It's amazing！Which one do you use the most daily？and which one you prefer？
Which headband did you purchase for the 6seV2? On the hifiman website, they show one that looks like yours, but they don't list the V2 as compatible (unless I am to assume that "6se" is the same). Thanks! :-)
Did you try the Ananda and do you prefer the H6se v2 over it?
Hey I know you posted this a while back but just wondering if you think the Burson playmate 2 would drive the he6 ok? It’s not as powerful as the soloist but it drives the he560 not even at 50% so was just wondering if it would be ok without having to upgrade amps yet. Thank you for all the great incisive reviews and appreciate any help with this you can give! Thanks!!
Hard to guess with the HE6. I'd say give it a shot and see what you think. I think people exagerate the power requirements.
Thank you for the response man, it does drive it with plenty of juice left over so I think it works!
HeKv2 to my ears is way more bright and sterile than Arya SE. It needed tubes in my VTL IT-85 to smooth the piercing highs and glare. I can play Arya SE much louder more comfortably and on more sources which bring the warmth and 3 dimensionality out.
Sounds like you really liked the Hekv2, did you ever add one to your headphone collection?
Hifiman let me keep the Arya, so…
You gotta try the edition xs while your memory is fresh
I’ve got one, and I bought the he1000 and I still have the others for a bit, so we’re good on that front. I’ve just got the TOTL stuff that I have to prioritize right now.
2nd not an easy decision. Mainly being cause.. there’s like zero audio stores & retailers don’t like returns. I mean makes sense but god luck finding an He1k v2 to demo
Hi,
I have Ifi Zen Dac v2, and Zen Can combo. Can it properly power HE6SE V2? I know you have reviewved Ifi stack before, would you be able yo test it with HE6SE V2? Many thanks. I run it balanced. I am not sure if HE6SE V2 comes with a balanced cable...
I’m skeptical. Could you remind me of the power output of the Zen Can?
I am skeptical too of course for louder tracks you et enough volume but as Mr Ayrit already mentioned in his review the headphone scales with bette ramplification and on with recordings with lower volume or in silent paasges you might not even get enough volume.
Would love to hear you compare the HE1000v2 and Susvara. When I compared them I found the HE1000V2 had more intimate/closer vocals, while the voices/vocals sounded further back on Susvara, but larger soundstage overall. The HE1000v2 also seemed brighter but also had more bass. Curious if you hear the same or different.
I’m pretty sure I comment on that comparison in one of my videos. Maybe the Susvara review?
Ummmm. Yesssssssss!
I got the Arya Stealth ($1599) but I noticed that the HE1000v2 is now $2000 (instead of $3000). I'm tempted to try the Hifiman trading program to get the HE1000v2 better soundstage (mainly) but in the same time, I fear losing the "correctness" induced by the stealth magnets of the Arya... Do you think the trade would really be a good move?
For me, the he1000v2 is quite a big step up over the Arya SE. The Arya just doesn't resonate with me. The v2 is more natural, gets more intimate, and just has more life to it.
@@MrAyrit Thanks for sharing your impressions about those 2 headphones. Anyway, I decided to put things on hold and keep the Arya Stealth for the moment (I chose it as a compromise before go for an endgame TOTL, mainly for it's forwardness and clarity, knowing that the soundstage was adequate but not optimal). I will skip the HE1000v2 because it doesn't have the stealth magnets tech and I will save for a potential Susvara, which seems to be the best to unite performance and enjoyment in the same package. I haven't tried the Susvara yet but I tried the LCD5 (balanced and efficient but lack of excitment), the SR1A (amazing soundstage but bass light), the Utopia (almost perfect but small soundstage) and still, I chose the Arya Stealth as a good all arounder. I'll keep an eye on the upcoming Raal circumaural headphone in the meantime (presented as a prototype at the 2022 Munich show). Keep on your good work BTW! :)
@@christianblais3350 I'm guessing the v2s will be coming down in price on the used market because of the price drop. Might be able to grab one for $1500.
I like the look of the Arya over the 1000 & Susvara. ..for the same reason I'm not fond of the look of Abss headphone- you know the one! It's like something Cher would wear on her head back in 70's...to the Oscar's
Your HE6se really does require more robust (better)amplification than the Burson to get the most from of it's performance capabilities.
I really wanna order the HE6SE v2 but i keep seeing lots of people saying that the stock headband is really uncomfortable, where did you get the replace headband?
And is it comfortable?
I replaced mine with an old 400i headband. Easy to do. I made a video about it. You can also order headbands from Hifiman for $75-$100.
@@MrAyrit
Please send me the link
@@MrAyrit
Also u have big head, do you think is it fit head?
@@dudiflug3804 I’m probably the wrong person to ask. I almost always use headphones on the smallest settings or very close to it.
@@dudiflug3804 store.hifiman.com/index.php/the-newly-enhanced-comfort-headband.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwzLCVBhD3ARIsAPKYTcQITdsPyCH5SL2e8Dc0AzakDB9xXX6VWjkkTIAqN0mlX2o0fGw_hBMaAm1aEALw_wcB
That's the link to the headband, or were you talking about the video?
should i get the Arya SE brand new for 1000 or the HEKV2 for 1250 used? My main caveat with my current phones the Edition XS is that the mids aren't as intimate as I'd like. I'm driving them with a Topping DX3 Pro+
My money would be on the he1kv2. Eventually, id encourage you to explore some other dac/amp options as well.
@@MrAyrit would a A30 Pro do? or will the A90D be the bare minimum
What headband did you use to replace for the HE6se?
I used an old he400i headband.
@@MrAyrit oh nice. Was it easy to replace with that?
Do you think i can use an he6 v2 on my gryphon for a while until i get money for a more powerful amp?
I think so.
Arya is at $1300 now, HE1000v2 is $2000 new now. Having a hard time figuring out which I want to get on a Denafrips Ares 2 and Jotunheim 2
Yea. That is is a difficult decision. How important is it to you for your headphone to be dead linear? The Arya is pretty close to that. I would call the he1000 more fun, but that could be subjective. I would say that with the price drop, now is a great time to by an he1000 used…
@@MrAyrit I sold Empyreans because they were a little too dark, midrange a little veiled or recessed, missing maybe a tiny bit of detail. Even after EQ'ing the mids up, something not quite right with Meze's. Others have said this too. I like my headphones to be neutral, mostly, with a tiny bit more subbass, but soundstage is the most important to me. So the only choices I can think of below $2k is HEKv2 or Arya. Meze's low end, and HD800's mids and highs would be a great phone too :D
@@picklesandufos7860 what you have decided to buy? My recommendation would be HE1KV2 used for around 1500$
which did u find has a smoother treble arya se or he1000 v2
My preference was for the the he1000, but if you want super duper clean, the Arya is probably better in that regard. I'd have to give it another listen for sure though. What quality are you looking for in the treble?
Is Burson Conductor 3X Performance a good match for HE1000V2?
We’ll, I haven’t heard the conductor, so it’s hard for me to weigh in. Have you heard how it compares to the soloist?
I sold my he1000v2 in 2020 and now I'm happy with Arya se and he6se v2 in my collection.
I was very disappointed by the build of he1000v2 - the fake wood and ungly 2.5mm cable jacks, nowhere near a premium product. He1000se is slightly better built with 3.5mm jacks, but too bright for my taste.
what are the biggest differences between the 2?
@@BlackRecoil HEK1000 V2 is not as bright and doesn’t nearly have the same width as the Arya Series.
Which one between the Edition XS and the HE6SE V2 for sound quality. I understand the difference in power requirements.
It would be the HE6 for my preference.
@@MrAyrit Thank You
I feel like the 1000v2 can sound sterile and unengaging. I struggle to get dancing listening to it. I heard that the He6 has a more engaging, involving, energetic sound
I didn't feel that way about them, but it is probably source dependent. I ended up going back to the HE6seV2, just because their price has come down. I was able to pick up a set for $350--Another $40 for a suspension strap headband and that's a pretty killer headphone for $400.
I wonder where the Sundaras would fit here
I’ve been thinking about this, and the only way I can see it is that they would be at the bottom of the list for me. How far down is certainly debatable, and I’m sure some people would probably prefer it. I’ll have a Sundara video shortly.
@@MrAyrit agree but for its pricepoint the Sundara is still a great headphone.
Arya Stealth is more like £1200 these days. new 1000 are in the £3K region
The HE1000 V2 Stealth is at the Moment to have for 1600 in Stores and direct by Hifiman! Summer-Sale!
Your room is haunted mate, what the hell was that white mist floating behind you and vanished in the closet?? 1:22 - 1:25.. 👻💀
Probably a cat hair close to the camera…
@@MrAyrit If that help you sleep at night I'm ok with that explanation 😉🥲
HE6se v2 is a tiny mess
I'll give you a chicken nugget if you give me the headphones for free
(PIN THIS): IMPORTANT NOTE........If you want to enhance the bass, sweeten the midrange, and give more air to the sound then move the HE1000v2 as far forward on your head as it will go. Have the backs of your ears touching the back of the cups, as far forward on your head as it can. This creates no space behind your ear and increased space in front of your ear. Really enhances this headphone.