WR450F Suspension Set Up for the Simple Minded 2012 2013 2014 2015 - Yamaha WR450
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- A simple video on stock suspension settings. Fiddling with the clicker thingy's. Need to get a base line before I modify the settings and changing springs.
...Holy crap, was very fast before kissing the ground ... good job with the setup of the suspensions...
Great starting point bud... Having a reference point to start from is important for making future adjustments, and having a sense of where to go. Once you get the proper springs, you will realize much more potential from your bike, and your safety will go up. Hard to tell exactly what happened from the first person view on your off-age, but it looked like it may have been too soft a rear end making the front end light and not as planted.... your going in the right direction bud, keep it up!
+MrDuhfactor Gracias mi amigo! You are spot on as usual. I did have a camera on in third person (the quality was crap) and it showed the back end collapsing. Things are pretty good right now with the understood short comings of the springs. Working on whoops this weekend hopefully. Based on what has happened so far I will start with the rear spring then buy the fork springs. I appreciate your help!
thanks for all the info, have 2015, love the bike. still figuring out suspension and this video definitely helping. good looking yellow lab also! my favorite dog!!
Thanks man. My Pleasure. From this base I was able to make some minor adjustments and the thing in planted as heck. That's my pup Lucy the real desert dog.
Are you really liking the bike? At first was not liking mine a bunch when I first got it, was used to 2 strokes. A buddy recommend ecu change, what a difference.. No more flame outs, plus more time on bike, no I really enjoy the bike. Suspension upgrade and bigger tank are next. Live in eastern Washington desert, ride in woods also when get a chance.
I love it for what I do which is a little bit of everything. I ride only about 10% single track. I mostly ride desert and forest. 2 Strokes are the bomb I grew up on them. I have the GYTR ECU and the programmer. The GYTR programmer will rock your world. It is small enough to make changes right on the trail.
I always wondered how people adjust the suspension on those. Interesting video buddy.
+outie555 Thanks. It's fun in a tedious kind of way ;-D
The Yamaha's all have the same forks and I think shock is the same too from 2006 to current. So this video would actually apply to any Yamaha in those years
+Clay Sensiba Thanks for the input! Good to know if someone with an older machine is looking.
+azdesertdog for sure!
forks are different from what was on the older bikes, in 2012 the bike got the upgraded sss forks off of the yz
Yeeeouch!! That happened quick. Dramatic way to start a video. Glad to see you both took it in stride. All bikes should have adjustable suspension, but some manufacturers don't seem to think such things are necessary. It looked like you had your dog's undivided attention whilst going through the complexities of suspension adjustment :-)
+stirlingshire Oh man it wasn't the most fun thing but dirt bike means you hit dirt every once in a while. Hahaha Lucy was hunting lizards. She will star at a bush for an hour if she sees something move.
Better set up than my Beemer, I have no other options than the spacers. And the dial rear shock.
+navythomas8 This is pretty much a MX set up. It's actually a YZ250 frame. There is almost too much to adjust. It's kind of another hobby just in the set up. I have the dial adjuster on the V Strom. that's pretty good for street/dirt.
need to get a tuner sometime, our shop will do it for free but it's a pain to have to rely on them doing it. well happy trails and stay upright!!
Thanks for the vid. I feel a bit more confident in adjusting the suspension on my 2013 WR450F.
Thanks for watching Jay. I'm glad it helped.
subcribed, all positive comment, like and have shared. Just another proof up of all of the scars /no pun/ of what goes into a quality production, not to mention the riding part.. great stuff AZDD
+Chris Botta Thank you sir for subscribing and all the comments. Comments are what really keep me motivated. I like to think of you guys riding with me when I am out there. I appreciate your time watching my stuff.
I'd say more importantly than anything is ride-time and you're killin' it! Gotta love AZ. Headed you way next weekend but looking like mntn bikes are the tool of choice. I'll try to get some vid of me eating dirt azdezdog-style
+crj dirt Hahaha!It tastes nasty. I would avoid it. I grab ride time when I can get it. Never can plan anything. Be careful.
Spills are better when they're on camera anyway!!
Besides - 'If you don't Falloff occasionally, your not trying hard enough'...
Thanks for the setup info, still don't think mine is 'set' yet, but getn closer.
TFS & RSOT >:)
I try to fall off every once in a while. Then I know how far it is to the ground LOL
HaHa, I like the way you think.
It's good to test your limits and the grounds 'hardness', once in a while...
Always good to get a baseline before you start buying parts. That rear setup seems pretty robust to me, just some tweaking. Glad you didn't break anything when you were getting down B-)
+Arizona RE Nothing too bad. I was back riding that afternoon. Springy things are next.
Shit that looked like it hurt... Glad your ok fella, and given enough fettling you will get the suspension perfect.,
+GTs Garage Thanks. non the worse for wear.
I have 2016 wr450. it's amazing bike
+britlips I love my 2014. I heard the 2016 is quite the bike. There is an article in Dirt Rider magazine this month on the 2016 WR450F sounds very favorable.
Didn't crash hard enough! Go faster next time. lol btw I ordered a rear suspension/spring adjuster tool thingy right before watching this video!
+Squid WithGear hopefully I'll get it on video. HA! Sounds complex. Hit us with an IG pic or video when you get it.
It's actually pretty simple, just like a wrench for twisting the adjuster things on the shock. Will post a pic tho!
+Squid WithGear I got a wrench in my pants....
I forgot to comment on the Bisbee video how great that place looked :)
+banditnev Thanks buddy!
very cool
+RC Performance Studio Thanks!
he he bro, I will recommend this Vid to our english classes here: learn counting with azdersertdog! :-) But your problem sounds familiar to me... as far as I can remember the same happens to Kalani on his WR 250... and there are rumors of some rebound issues... mrDuhfactor made a Vid of rebuilding the suspension of minitstops WR and I think. he said in this Vid that he fixed this problem...
Hah! I can only count to twenty. I believe it was the imbalance in the front shock settings and the slow rebound was way soft. I need to invest in heavier springs. I'll get it figured out sooner or later :-)
+azdesertdog If you take your suspension in parts anyway, I would "revalve" it with some racetech gold valves...
Also wanted to add nice Duramax!
+Piston Slap My wife says thanks.It's hers :-)
Just me being curious, wouldn't you need the spring rate to be correct before dialing in the other parts of the suspension? From what I gathered off the interweb. 1st get the correct springs for your weight, 2nd set the sag, 3rd adjust the compression and rebound, 4th ride it like you stole it? I don't believe every thing I read or see on the net, I gather info and make my own conclusions, which my be wrong!
+Piston Slap That would be correct. However, the springs are a few months away (saving $$$) and I need some suspension sanity. I have the sag set close but I am in the 99 percentile of the spring rate. In a month I will get the rear spring by the summer I will have the fork springs. Bikes are a cash only hobby for me so baby steps.
Glad you weren't hurt...how different is it falling on one of these vs. your regular street bike? (stupid question, maybe)
Lovin' the RV setup.
+WheelsNotHeels I have fallen off of a ninja 650 (low side into a turn) and wrecked my DRZ400 where I had over shot a corner went up the side of the hill then whipped it around to save it only to pile it up in a washed out area. I feel the dirt is more forgiving and the dual sport/dirt bikes handle the abuse a bit better than the street bikes. Plus pavement is hard on the body even with protective gear. My Ninja650 cost about 700.00 to fix all the broken parts and a pair of pants. The DRZ I picked up and kept riding. Depending on what your doing one could be worse than the other but me personally the dirt is more "friendly" compared to the street.
+Piston Slap Thanks for the useful info! Maybe I should switch to dirt riding. lol! I dropped my Ninja but we were at a standstill...I stupidly got off the bike after stopping in soft sand, pointed downhill and in neutral...fell over onto the pavement. 'doh! Then, couple weekends ago, pulling out of a parking spot on the side of the road...there was sand & gravel and you're pulling up out of that slanted part that is on the edge of the road but I didn't give it enough gas (was trying to make a sharp right onto the road) so went down before I could even blink...hit the pavement hard...luckily had all the gear on but it still hurt like a m*thr-f*ckr (that is a vlog I'm working on now). Both times, didn't have the camera on. :(
+WheelsNotHeels Thanks. Just hyper extended my thumb and separated a couple ribs. I was riding that afternoon. I think that you can get seriously hurt on both dirt and street. Crashing just happens more often on dirt usually at slower speeds. The worst I had was on the street when I was T-Boned by a Monte Carlo. That hurt.
+Piston Slap Agreed. Why does street plastic cost so much and is more breakable.
lol I believe its a government conspiracy ;0
Curious about the chain on that bike......do you adjust it with rider and load on the bike? I remember my KLR loaded for a long trip, it was suggested to load then adjust even with the back suspension maxed out.
+bodysurf100 Nope adjustment is made without the rider. It has a lot more slack than a dual sport or street bike because of the suspension travel.
"Damn It Again This One is On Video!" hahah.
+TRX Vlogger Hey if you gotta biff it you might as well get the video ;-)
That's for sure.
Not sure how much you weigh but did you adjust after you went back to standard? and what did you do. I'm 235lb.
+britlips The sag measurement is a set number for each bike. My sag is between 90mm and 100mm. You can adjust for your preference in that range. Not sure what bike you have but you can check where I mentioned in the previous comment. The sag will be adjusted into that range with the spring pre load. That is where your weight comes in. After you watch a sag video it will make sense. Good luck bro!
the issue with my WR is i cannot lean in to sweeping turns without the bike fighting me or coming out from under me. my suspension settings are stock. i weigh 190lbs. so what would you recommend a.z.?
I am not sure about pavement set ups. I would check your sag. Should be about 100 mm. Get all your settings back to stock and work out from stock.
Did you do a video on sag set up?. is there a chart for riders weights and sag adjustment?
Thanks for watching. There are so many sag videos I haven't done one. As far as the sag setting for your bike it should be in tbe manual. If you don't have one most manuals can be found on line in PDF format.
Dam it again..does this happen regularly..
No. Fortunately it doesn't. I mistakenly paid the dealer to set up the suspension and believed he did so. I usually do it myself. The dealer convinced me his shop did all their race bikes and I would be impressed. Not so much. Not one setting on the forks were the same. The shock was apparently set up by a savant monkey with ADD. The "set up" I paid for kept tossing me off the bike. Just reinforcement why I do things myself.
So the shop set it up for race settings maybe..
No. The settings were completely different between forks. The shock had some settings maxed out and others at minimum. This was a recipe for launching the rider every time it hit an obstacle. It would not make sense under any conditions. I reset the suspension to the manufacturer recommended settings set the sag and modified it from there. That is what I normally do.
you would have died back in the 70,s before the yz,s came out i think in 75 the only adjustment you could do with out disassembly was turn the ring on the rear shock.s to 1 of five positions...as for the forks you had to change the springs and oil weight and maybe put a schrader valve in the fork caps to run a few pounds of air which would nulify every thing you hand done up to that point....
I was riding back then, owned and rode those bikes. The forks were set up completely differently from each other. This caused the forks to twist on impact.