Star Trek TNG BEST OF BOTH WORLDS Part 1 and 2! - Preparation for the Movies!!!
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This was intense! That cliffhanger at the end of Season 3 was insane
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0:00 - Intro
2:55 - Best of Both Worlds 1
16:16 - Review
20:47 - Best of Both Worlds 2
34:16 - Ad
36:25 - Review - Krátké a kreslené filmy
This was one of the toughest summers of my young life. I was about 12 when this cliff hanger aired and I was going nuts waiting for the conclusion.
It was awful that Summer! I kept thinking about how it was going to be resolved. Great television.
I agree with both of you EXCEPT summer was the relief.
The cliffhanger was in the fall.
@@VonPatzy just double checked, part 1 was aired June 18 and part 2 Sept 24. I have a terrible memory but that summer stands out to me. I had watched all of Next Gen 1st run, Capt Picard is my captain and I was devastated.
PS. Unless you're watching in the southern hemisphere, then we're all correct.
On German television, we had a three year delay in the beginning but were shown the first 3 1/2 seasons in one haul. So it was just one week from part 1 to 2... 😊😅
I watched the cliffhanger at my cousin's place. At the end we were all like... 😳 And we literally sat there for five minutes just breathing
The end of the first part is widely regarded as one of the best cliffhangers of TV history.
And unlike SatAM's cliffhanger, this one had resolution. But the resolution also had long term consequences for Picard and the TNG crew that lasted into the movies.
To young, but would have loved the discusions on the schoolyards back then. German- born 84 had to wait long for TNG to air on german tv... Was about 5-6 Years... Remember still my mom watching it with me in hope, Whoopie would apear as Guinan. ;-))
It's hard to convey what it felt like for those of us who watched this in real time. We knew it was the season finale, but it was not advertised as a cliffhanger, nor was it referred to as "Part One" in the TV listings. So we're all watching this great episode, and looking at the clock thinking, "OK, it's ten minutes till the hour, how are they going to wrap this up in the next few minutes?" Then they hit us in the face with the "TO BE CONTINUED" and the tops of all our heads blew off.
Absolutely. I was late to this episode. Didn't get home in time (and forgot to set the VCR on top of that!) and walked in just as they discovered Picard was a Borg and saw the last 7-8 minutes. I was flabbergasted! At the time, they aired it first on Saturday then reran in the following Sunday. Longest 8 days of my television watching life!
Yep. Cliffhangers between seasons were very rare back then so nobody expected one. This two parter is widely credited in finally legitimizing TNG as a worthy successor to TOS.
I saw it when it aired on CBS on Saturday night, in the 7 to 8 pm slot I think. Hard to believe that was WAY back in 1990. 34 frickin years ago now. Damn that makes me feel old AF
And no social media. The web was mostly BBS services with newsgroups you could read and post on and most people weren't on any of that any way (probably a fair number of TNG fans were but not most). I only mention that because it's hard to convey to people who grew up online just how different that world was, like how kids will see an old movie and complain that "they should just call them" because they forget there was a time without cell phones and it wasn't that long ago.
It was written by a guy who didn't think he'd still be working there the next season, too. There was no plan for how to continue the story. One of the greatest trolls in television history.
That the Borg only sent one of their ships (the default cube 'class') always felt like a mark of their supreme confidence.
This exactly - those were not all of the Borg. They have dozens or potentially hundreds of such cube ships. That was only one cube.
@@mjducharme probably millions
In at least Q Who, the writer's intent was it was actually just the one cube. Obviously, that idea got dumped later on, but I don't know when exactly, it might still have been so in BoBW..
@@mjducharme If you've watched Voyager, the first time VOY gets passed by a Borg Armada in Scorpion , Pt. I, There are 17 Cubes alone.
@@nathancline4000 Yes, I know. That doesn't necessarily indicate how many there are in total. Also, that episode is set years after TNG and the Borg could have expanded in that time.
I remember that summer. The studio was deliberately spreading rumours that Patrick Stewart wanted to leave the show (he wasn't) in order to build the stakes so that fans would believe that Picard could actually die. The nostalgia! The feels!
Heard someone pulled up beside Stewart at a red light and yelled "you ruined my summer!" at him.
That was the most tense damn summer, kids today have no idea how we suffered 😂
wait, those were rumors?!
Honestly, I would've had Jonathan Frakes record the "Space, the Final Frontier" bit for the intro for just BOBW pt 2 just to keep people guessing.
@@Anduril74871 Sadly, from what I understand, there are some stupidly strict union (screen actor's guild) rules that would have made that pretty much impossible...
One thing Riker doesn't like is when you go over his head. But damit does he show that he's more than capable to be a Captain.
You have now seen the greatest cliffhanger in Star Trek history 😁
Compound that with TNG NEVER having a 2 parter before and having a summer break! I remember throwing my shoe at the TV when the “to be continued” screen came up. Good thing I didn’t throw it hard 😂
That one tear showed that Picard was still there and that gave fans hope.
I didn't have to imagine having to wait for the next episode, I lived it. The "Mr. Worf... Fire," followed by the epic "To Be Continued..." music, followed by me screaming "ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?!" Waited three months for the conclusion.
Then enter Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's pilot episode three years later showing the Battle of Wolf 359 at the very beginning of the episode.
What sucks is that the bluray combined those episodes into a whole movie, so the impact of that cliffhanger was destroyed. I was so disappointed by that. I wonder if they went back to original two-parter for streaming.
@@trekkiejunk Not sure, but I have the two parter in DVD format before the geniuses decided to fix what wasn't broken.
@@trekkiejunk yeah I went to go see it in theatrical release about ten years or so ago and it aired that way. It really misses something without the little break.
The cliffhanger was over the summer. It was a long summer. Probably the best cliffhanger episode in TV history.
I was 10 at the time, and when I wanted to watch Star Trek, my mom wanted to watch Cheers, Hunter, or some other shit. I caught it on reruns.
It’s awesome that you saw these episodes! A couple of things about the Borg. The Borg are far more than one ship. Guinan alludes to this when she talks about the Borg having assimilated a bunch of different worlds. There are literally hundreds of billions of them on the other side of the galaxy. At the end of best of both worlds part two the look that Picard is giving is not so much that the Borg still in him but he has haunted by his experience. Keep in mind that them abducting him lead to the deaths of thousands of Starfleet officers. After this episode, he is a changed man.
There were thought to be many trillion Borg at the very least. One single unimatrix (Unimatrix 01) had trillions of drones, and there are many unimatrices (at least hundreds, since there were several unimatrices with 3-digit identifiers mentioned in Voyager).
There are millions of Borg cubes. Their sphere of influence covers a large portion of the Delta Quadrant.
In at least Q Who, the writers' intent was that it was just the one cube. I don't know whether that was still the case in BoBW, and Voyager obviously dumped that idea completely (and made an entire mess of the whole Borg, but that's another topic), but it _originally_ was just the one ship.
Riker showed exactly how much of a bad ass he is with strategy
Patrick Stewart has told a story that someone who happened to meet him on the street complained that he had ruined their entire summer with this cliffhanger.
Also, Picard's Borg designation is Locutus, which is Latin for "spoken". In other words, he is the one who speaks for them (to humans).
I was sad to hear that "Family" was not originally on your list, but hearing "The Inner Light" instead had me going "Yeah, I can't complain"
But now that you are adding "Family" to that, I am now even more excited than I was before. I can't wait for the next one
Watch Family first as it is a direct continuation of Best I f Both worlds
@@tinkinc85 Well yeah, its the first episode afterward, and the only instance in TNG where a storyline from the previous episode carries through into the next (without it being a "part II")
The Inner Light was one of the most touching, bittersweet episode of them all.
@@nathanfitzgearl650 Indeed. And it holds sentimental value for me on top of it, as it was my father's favorite episode.
@@k1productions87 My own late father’s favorite episode as well! That’s AWESOME!
You ask why Picard was so solemn at the end. It will be revealed in the next episode Family. It's one of Sir Patrick's most powerful and moving performances in all of TNG alongside in Chain if Command. You're in for some real feels next ep.
I have seen it all, back when it aired, and since, and perhaps this is just me drawing on knowing what happens next, but I feel it's obvious that it's some sort of PTSD setting in, him realizing it. (At the time, I was 14 and I seem to recall asking my mother what it meant that he was standing alone at the end.... she said something like he was just thinking, about everything that has happened. That could include encompass ptsd.
"Family" is definitely a good follow up to watching these 2 episodes. Good choice to watch it. "The Inner Light" isn't really connected to these other episodes you have watched, but it's definitely a fan favorite.
I'd argue that "The Inner Light" is really a great character study for Jean-Luc, especially in how he handles certain things. Might be relevant to Picard's mental state in, say, Insurrection.
Glad you checked this two-parter out, as well as Family - probably the best 3 episodes to understand the first two TNG movies. Prior to watching the 4th TNG movie, Nemesis, I would recommend you watch the 2-parter TNG episode, Unification.
You defo check out the final double episode of TNG (All Good Things) to see how TNG ends before the movie series begins with Generations.
16:03 - "Mr. Worf... fire."
And with those three words, the longest summer in the history of televised entertainment began. For us 'old timers' who were forced to wait for a new season of our favorite show to hit the airwaves, the wait was indescribable. None of us knew if Picard would be back (the behind-the-scenes rumors were on fire with talk of Patrick Stewart not renewing his Star Trek contract). Season three's cliffhanger was perfectly calibrated to feed those rumors and keep everyone guessing all summer long.
Needless to say, Episode 1 of season four was one of the most watched season openers for a TV show in the history of the medium, for obvious reasons. Those were good times, man. Goooood times.
You have no idea how crazy it was when it first aired. I was 14 and it was the only time I ever wanted summer break from school to be over so I could find out what happens next.
If you're watching specific episodes, you should DEFINITELY watch "Sarek" (Season 3, Episode 23). It's one of Patrick Stewart's best performances and an emotional look into Sarek, Spock's father.
Yes! I recommended “Sarek” on one of Oliver’s previous Trek videos. It was ferociously emotionally powerful.
I remember watching part 1 when it first aired. LONGEST SUMMER OF MY LIFE!
Same. Waiting for the season 4 premiere was torture!
So this cliffhanger was absolutely insane when it first aired. It was a Monday night and it was raining, when this aired and I was 5-years-old. I had no concept of a cliffhanger ending. So I was really shocked and thought this was permanent. A split second after Riker said "Mr. Worf, fire," the power went out and my dad threw up his hands and wailed "It's the Booooorg!" 5-year-old me was not amused. 😂
lol your dad’s got some improv skills
@@Eyetrauma and then some!
That is awesome 👌
I still viscerally remember that cliff hanger.
I was 14 and this show was (so far) me and my dad’s must see tv.
Back then you couldn’t even rewatch - you just had to mull it over and wait patiently.
Luckily the wait was only 3 or 4 months - but since I was a kid it might as well have been a lifetime.
When Gene Roddenberry was consulted on the new.series universe, he imagined a Federation where replicators had replaced all commerce, so there was no more greed or war. The writers’ reaction of “Um, so what HAPPENS in the show?” ended up giving us either diplomatic crises like Farpoint in the first season, or outside threats like Q, until they found their niche with the Borg as an organized enemy.
I had to suffer through the summer between the end of season 3 in May and the season 4 premier in September. My father and I would watch this show every week when it was on, and it was one of the only shows we both loved. It’s still my all time favorite show!
For their rank pips on the collar, the ranks go like this:
Ensign- 1 gold pip
Lieutenant (Junior grade) - 1 gold and one black pip
Lieutenant - 2 gold pips
Lt. Commander - 2 gold and 1 black pip
Commander - 3 gold pips
Captain - 4 gold pips
Then there are admirals that can have 1-4 gold pips surrounded by a gold box outline and a fancier gold trimmed uniform. There was also a crew member named O’Brien that was a non-commissioned officer, but his rank looked like that of a lieutenant. They wound up changing that later so someone else who was a Lieutenant could give him an order.
Even if you don’t do reactions to them all, I hope you’ll sit down and watch the whole series. If you enjoyed these episodes so far, there are plenty more great ones!
I'm a Trekkie from too far back, and I LOVE watching people discover Star Trek, it's like seeing it again for the first time. I actually can't wait for your reaction to "Inner Light"
I always worry about that, especially if 1) their first introduction to Trek was through the Kelvin Timeline films(not that they're bad, but are definitely set to a different standard), and 2) they start with The Motion Picture, arguably the slowest bit of Trek cinema. And yet, his reaction has been so great so far.
@@Anduril74871 for me, the only bad Trek is no Trek.
The tear showing Picard humanity suffering always gets me.
7-year-old me was bawling, after seeing that in a commercial for the new season.
You weren't wrong about the nebula reminding you of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. They re-used that film's nebula background plates, but enhanced the effect by shooting the model of the Enterprise on a smoke-filled stage.
The same thought occurred to me.
The reason why this was one of the best episodes is because it was practically the first time any show had done a cliff hanger to this level. Cliff hangars weren't all that common but became a lot more popular after this episode.
1st Borg doesn't forget a shield. That's the Borg adapting to the new fazer setting.
phaser, yo.
This cliffhanger fucked me up as a kid. I think I was about ten at the time, and I watched every episode of this show with my whole family. To this day, ST:NG is the only TV show my dad has ever seen. He was (still is) vehemently opposed to television, but he watched and adored this one show.
We LOVED Captain Picard in our household, with Data coming in a close second. The inexorable spread of the Borg was terrifying to us kids, and the idea that they could even get Picard just made them that much scarier.
Incidentally, this show is how my sister learned that she is a lesbian. She had her first crush ever on Dr. Crusher, appropriately. Our whole family went to a Star Trek convention specifically so that my sister could meet Gates McFadden, and she was so gracious to my sister. I'll never forget that.
"Can you imagine that cliffhanger?" he says.
Imagine the wait we had to go thru when the episode first aired. It was torture.
Picard's actions in the last shot will be made clear in "Family".
We had all of the TNG episodes on VHS. Best Of Both Worlds was my mother's favourite episode and she used to watch it at every opportunity, so I've seen this many times. It's definitely a classic episode!
We also had them all on VHS. My father recorded every single episode. I still have a big box with all the tapes in the basement. But can´t play them anymore 😅
In the US, a "season" is about 22 episodes from autumn to spring. You have to wait through the summer for the conclusion of a cliffhanger.
Troi's face right after the delivery of "Number One" makes that entire scene.
whomever wrote that line, knew exactly how to do it.
Fun fact: Levar Burton missed primary filming for part 2 because he was in the hospital. His parts were filmed later in tight shots without the other actors. If you know this, it's pretty easy to notice. A lot of his stuff was rewritten for O'Brien, which is why O'Brien has an usually large role when Data/Troi/Beverly hack into Picard.
I was lucky enough to watch TNG during their original broadcasts when I was a kid. I can't articulate how utterly insane of a cliffhanger it was; Picard - one of the finest examples of humanity - being assimilated into a Borg, _and_ Riker deciding to fire?! Let's just say that summer was a long one. They don't make television like that anymore. A few notes: Riker's turmoil about moving on and taking up his own command was due to producer/writer Michael Piller's own issues with regards to staying with TNG or moving on to other opportunities. As such, what started as Picard episode became focused on Riker. Shelby was written in as a way to challenge Riker's resolve about these questions. Such focused, character-driven plots are exactly what the show needed. Keep in mind that at that point, TNG very much in the shadow of TOS; these became two of the defining episodes of the series.
Elizabeth Dennehy, the actress who played Shelby, explained that her character's arrogance and dismissive attitude were due to her never watching the show. Much like her character, she didn't have an emotional connections to the crew and was just doing a job. Hence why she didn't think much of Riker early on. Gates McFadden was included as part of the away team to the Borg cube because Dr. Crusher rarely got the chance to fire a phaser, and she thought it'd be cool. You might have recognized Admiral Hanson as "God" from Star Trek V. Lastly, you were right about the Wrath of Khan reference; the Paulson Nebula they hide in is actually recycled and enhanced images of the Mutara Nebula from the movie.
Anyway, you've finally made it through The Best of Both Worlds. One of the highest points in the series, but this story isn't over. Not by a long shot...
To be accurate, McFadden did fire a phaser way back in season 1's "Conspiracy", but agree on all other points.
@@Raja1938 Oh, I see. Thanks for the correction!
This two-parter resurrected the traditional season-ending cliffhangers that were so synonymous with shows like Dallas and Dynasty. For many, “The Best of Both Worlds” is to Star Trek: TNG what “Who Shot J.R.?” was to Dallas, it kept the fans guessing and speculating what will happen next season.
Part 1 may be the best TV cliffhanger of all time.
You need to watch the next episode straight after this; Family. It deals with the mental after effects of his experience with the Borg and is a really good episode.
Yes it shows more of picards trauma of his time with the borg
I agree. It is far more important than The Inner Light to the overall TNG story and is essential background for the first TNG movie.
Agreed. And "I, Borg" ... which gives further context about the Borg.
The battle here with the Borg where the ships are destroyed is the starting scene for episode 1 of Deep Space 9.
There's an episode I haven't seen anyone listing here that you need to watch in order to see the movies called "Brothers" - Season 4, Episode 3, this episode is quite crucial for you in order to understand a few key things mentioned in the movies and I'm surprised no one has mentioned it.
Yes, he should see DATALORE, BROTHERS, And DESCENT PART I AND II, (and possibly even I BORG, they are pertinent to) the first two movies.
@@highstimulation2497 I agree, basically he needs to watch most of the series, it hurts my brain knowing he's going to watch the movies with almost no emotional connection to the characters, the movies are a summarization of the show, not the other way around.
I'm very glad to hear you'll be watching FAMILY next. It really is the third part of the Best of Both Worlds story and should never be skipped.
I remember this episode very well! This was the year that Star Trek The Next Generation really hit its stride and it just kept getting better every year. This episode had everything. I remember those last few minutes where it was revealed that Picard was assimilated into the Borg and then Riker had to make that tough decision to fire everything they had at him. My friends and I were like, "I can't believe the captain is now a Borg! I wonder what's gonna happen next?" After this we saw the Borg in different ways in subsequent episodes. This was the season where, in my opinion, the crew really came together. Picard was getting to the point where he was firm when he needed to be but he was becoming an avuncular father type for the crew and it was so shocking to see what the Borg had done to him. There were many other great episodes where Geordie was proving himself as chief engineer, Data was making significant discoveries into what it was to be human. A great story arc was starting where elements of the Klingon culture were revealed and how Worf became ostracized from his people--we even learned that he had a son! The show was really establishing itself from the original series. I even remember some of my friends claiming that they thought this was better than the original Star Trek! This was all good fun. Thank you for this reaction!
I’m sure you can see the major increase in quality from the first season to this one. It was around the end of the second season the show really started getting much better, and by this point it was becoming legendary.
Yes the pips (dots) on the collar signify rank. For TNG purposes, One solid gold is Ensign, one solid gold plus one black with gold outline is lieutenant junior grade, two solid gold is lieutenant, two solid gold plus a black with gold outline is lieutenant commander, three solid gold is commander and four solid gold is captain. There are other ranks like admiral and chief etc, but those are the main ones you see on TNG.
Those are commissioned officer ranks. NCOs have different rank insignia.
Can you imagine if they had Jonathan Frakes do the "Space, the final frontier" at the start of part 2?
Oh, gosh, that would've been EPIC!
…..a borger!…….everyone else…..”shut up whestly”. All in good fun, the treks will get it, so glad you’re watching this. Welcome aboard.
Just a reminder: when the fleet at Wolf 359 was destroyed, 11.000 people died
June 18th 1990 to September 24th 1990. Sir Pat was out driving one day between season 3's finale and the first episode of season four. He was at a stop light when a car with a family pulled up next to him and noticed him. Drivers window rolls down and the mom leans out to get his attention, and when he notices she yells at him "You've ruined our summer!"
The only thing you missed was that security chief Tasha Yar got killed and Word was promoted to replace her.
Geordi became Chief Engineer.
Data became Lt. Commander and is third in command.
I've been rewatching the eps you're watching in advance and have been rediscovering my love of TNG in the process. I think you'll love Redemption, even if part of it will be a little confusing without having watched Yesterday's Enterprise (but I'm sure you'll roll with it).
I commented on this last time, but I have to say it again: I'm so impressed that you're giving yourself a perspective from the television episodes. I watch a lot of reactors and no one I've seen (who react to the movies) has done this. Kudos! :)
These are some Star Trek TNG episodes that I think most fans would love to see you react to. They are not essential for the movies, but top tier episodes (in chronological order):
“A Matter Of Honor”
“The Measure Of A Man”
“Who Watches The Watchers”
“Yesterday’s Enterprise”
“Sins of the Father”
“First Contact”
“Darmok”
“Conundrum”
“Cause And Effect”
“I, Borg”
“The Inner Light”
“Chain Of Command”
“Tapestry”
“All Good Things” - (final episode)
Mirab, his sails unfurled!
@@lordmortarius538 Temba, his arms open!
Thank you, Oliver! 🦾 I love this two-parter. I hope you'll also react to the series finale two-parter, ALL GOOD THINGS. ❧ Yes, 4 pips for captain, 3 pips for commander, 2 1/2 pips for lieutenant commander, 2 pips for lieutenant, 1 1/2 pips for lieutenant junior grade, 1 pip for ensign. #RolyPolyOllie #CliffBole #StarTrekTheNextGeneration #TheBestOfBothWorlds
Also, I literally started watching your channel because you were watching TNG. I'd definitely tune in for more of this!
The Borg are a whole civilization, not a single ship, ya know ;)
I can't believe that you thought that a single cube was the Borg. That single cube was nothing, an after thought of an after thought is what they think of this section of space currently. If they actually wanted to they could have sent hundreds or thousands of cubes.
They are one mind, no single individual. There for it's just Borg! No plurality.
Ollie has hit the super-nerd endgame now. 🤣 ... also, "Borgz".. 😂
Hamborger is not the worst Star Trek Joke I've heard.
Chekov accidentally shot Uhura. Luckily, it didn't phase her.
Starfleet developed a new weapon system that doubles as lightweight furniture during peace time: The Futon Torpedo.
My dude, that ONE cube exploded, but there are more Borg. There are always more Borg. They're a whole civilization. I'm also surprised at how many people get confused by Picard's melancholy gaze out the window at the end. Our guy has been through the most traumatic experience of his life. It's something he's got to grapple with for the rest of his life. To be honest, I'd recommend that instead of "Inner Light" you watch "I Borg" next. That would be the best next step in the TNG Borg saga. Inner Light is a beautiful episode but it really doesn't connect with anything else plot-wise.
I was a teenager in the 90's and I remember watching a show about Star Trek technology that we'll have in the future. They talked about personal wireless communication devices, touch screens, and instant messaging technology. I remember thinking back then that I'll probably be long dead by the time we had any of that. 😂
"Borger"....I did not expect that. I was thinking "microchips". I laughed actually.
The TV seasons weren't 1 yr apart. September to February new episodes and March to August was them replaying the season. TV shows usually had a 24 episode season.
For a little background info on the Borg, that is 1 ship out of thousands. Their population is in the trillions and grows constantly.
I absolutely love the little detail of Guinan sitting in Picard's office chair while Riker is looking at it so he doesnt feel bad about being the next person in it. Troi move over Guinan is the best ships councillor in starfleet
"Can you imagine that cliff hanger?"
I WAS THERE. I SAW IT ALL.
Hey Ollie, there is one more Star Trek episode relevant to the NG movies to do first and it's from TOS! It's called "Metamorphosis" from season 2 of TOS. The reason is because of a very, very important character in the Star Trek world it will feature, a character mentioned many times in the various series, and very much featured in one the NG movies you are going to do later! In fact, this character is what made it all possible, (beside Gene Roddenberry! LOL!). Definitely either do a react vid on Metamorphosis, or just watch it on your own. Just do it before the movies! And watching it will not hurt anything if you watch any of the original series later, and it'll give you a good TOS episode to experience. 🖖😎
Another thing. Since you missed watching Space Seed before Wrath of Khan, it's okay. Space Seed works good as a prequel since Ricardo Montalbán played Khan in both.
But a different actor plays this new character in Metamorphosis as opposed to who plays him in the NG movies so it's better to not treat Metamorphosis as a prequel and get it watched to know this mystery character first.
4:11 The reason it seems that way (besides events in Q Who?) is because of another TNG episode prior to both stories, the 1st season finale called "The Neutral Zone" a very good episode you should watch soon to catch up on ST things. You'll like Neutral Zone a lot! 😁
You're right that these episodes are important so that you know who the Borg are for later shows/movies - but also important that you know what Picard has been through as a character.
I was 10 when part one premiered, it was the longest summer of my life that year waiting for the new season.
As for the ending for part 2 with Picard looking out the window.... he remembers everything the Borg made him do. The Battle of Wolf 359 cost Starfleet 39 starships and 11,000 lives. Can you imagine the guilt he feels?
12:32
The first one doesn't 'forget' to use a shield; it takes a couple of hits to adapt their shields to a phasers frequency.
This was the first cliffhanger in Star Trek history. I remember watching this episode as a kid and being like WTF at the end. Remember, this was a time when killing off main characters wasn't the established norm as it is today, and this show had already established that precedent in the earlier seasons (which was also shocking for its time). So watching this and then having to wait half a year to see whether Picard would live or die was excruciating, but brilliant writing for it's time.
As for the Borg not using shields, they are rotating the frequency of their phasers so it takes a couple of hits each time to adapt.
Borg’s favorite food?
Cube steak. 😄
The Borg (AFAIK) don’t forget their shields, they adapt to the phaser frequency and are able to deflect it afterwards
"Can you imagine if they cliff-hangered the season with Picard being a Borg" - RolyPoly
Everyone watching: *sweats profusely*
the three tiny ships were actually huge missiles the size of starships, filled with antimatter. Had they impacted they would have done a LOT of damage.
"It's the beard." Q made the same conclusion 😆
Ok. Things you need to understand as someone who also lived through TNG's first run...
The Cliffhanger - as others have said, this was terrifying on so many levels, not the LEAST of which was.... we didn't know if another season WAS going to happen! It was possible that our beloved show would end right then and there.
The Borg - They are a hive, in both mentality and physicality, and behave as such. The first unit is killed by a weapon? Analyze the unit's breakdown patern. Second unit examins the weapon's properties. The Collective creates a possible Counter to the weapon and deploys it to the next Unit. If the Unit is destroyed, go back to start. They have so many drones it doesn't matter how many One-Offs are killed; they just collect the data and adapt. They are Technological Hyperevolution, and they are terrifying.
Locutus / Picard - We learn now, but have ot confirmed later... The Borg raped Picard; of his essence his memories, his individuality, his personhood. The very concept is anathema to The Human Condition.
Him: "Wow, Picard is so great! He's a brilliant character. I can't wait to watch him in his own series!"
Everyone else: "Um, yeah, about that... Do You want to tell him, or will I?"
What, that it's fine?
Every character ever in Star Trek: “The Borg.”
Ollie: “The Borgs.”
Too funny, bud. Great reaction though, and glad you took fan advice to watch “Family.” You should still swap out “Inner Light” for “Disaster.” Many people here have said the same thing because "Inner Light" completely sidelines ever character but Picard. "Disaster" really showcases everyone and their personalities and relationships.
"We would rather die than to serve you..."
"Death is irrelevant."
The Borg must be the best Villain in scifi history
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Rewatching now, I'm realizing how much they set it up to make you think Picard could actually be permanently gone from the show. They really give the time to make it seem like Riker taking over as the new captain, with Shelby as his new first officer, COULD maybe really be a thing, with how much they set up that arc and dynamic. That could've been the show going forward! And honestly? While nothing could compare to Patrick Stewart in the captain's chair, that alternative might've also been an interesting way to go.
12:28 It's not that any individual Borg forgets their shield. It's that The Borg adapt. The first one dies to a phaser, and all the rest adjust their shields to the frequency. That, combined with the hive mindset that renders individuals as simply expendable parts to be replaced means one, two, even ten losses during adaptation is inconsequential.
14:26 lol I can imagine. This show made me wish away an entire summer break as a child just so I could see what would happen in part 2.
Patrick Stewart recounted how someone once yelled out his car window at him over this two-parter "You ruined my summer!"
Behind the scenes of The Best of Both Worlds part 1, rumor was Patrick Stewart was considering leaving the show so this would have given him an out to leave with Riker as captain. The writer Michael Pillar hadn't yet written part 2.
😯😲😳was my reaction when Riker said, "Fire" and the to be continued.
Locutus comes from the Latin root locutio = language/speech. So Locutus of Borg basically means speaker for the Borg. It's similar to interlocutor.
Dont worry.... The Borg never entirely left Picard. In fact, they are about to become an uneasy part of the family.... In more than one way
you dancing to the theme music is kinda the best thing ever
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"What if they show as a cliff hanger Picard as a Borg?" Lol nice catch
Surely the Borg's favorite meal would be... a smorgasborg?
The nebula is the same special effect used in Star Trek The Wrath of Khan. The little attack ships that got wiped out at once, the Mars defense ships, was models of the sub The Red October from The Hunt for The Red October. The reason for this cliff hanger was the show didn't know if Sir Pat would return for more seasons. The Battle of Wolf 359 will tie directly into the series pilot of Deep Space Nine.
The name Enterprise has a very storied name in the U.S. Navy. Literally in World war 2 the Enterprise single handedly acted as a shield against Japan. She was such a thorn in the Japanese navy's side they claimed to sink her 3 times. Her name sake proved the concept of Nuclear powered aircraft carriers and was present in every major us military engagement since the Cuban missile crisis to the war on terror being the first u.s. ship to retaliate after 9-11 just as her predecessor responded first after pearl harbor. As the last Enterprise's motto once stated: We are Legend