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CHAPTERS
0:00 - Was Miss Minutes Always a Villain?
5:38 - Miss Minutes’ Body
11:29 - Ravonna Renslayer
14:08 - Programming Schedule
16:36 - Victor Timely vs Kang
21:20 - Loki and Partnership
23:52 - Heat Check
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It's Morbin time
You did too much with the title.
I think we've gone too far with the thumbnails💀💀💀
defo 💀💀
Right 🤣😤🤢
Not far enough...
Stop being too sensitive
Lmaooo
Jonathan Major's acting as the different Kang variants is phenomenal. He makes each distinct.
Maybe Kangs inability to partner with his variants is what made he who remains appreciate the lokis
This timely, he who remains, and kang from quantumania seem to be the only kangs that don't partner making me think thst they are all the same person from different time periods. All the other variants partnered together to form the council of kangs.
@@mikeyj7824I mean it’s like the Ricks forming the citadel, they may be forming an “alliance” but they still have interest for themselves only
@@madtitan0825 I mean.. it could also be like the Council of Kangs ...
@@intothefrayyo yeah
@@intothefrayyo he thought he said something 😂
I think the main contrast here between Lokis and Kangs, and probably the reason Kang "doesn't do partnerships" is because he was betrayed by other versions of himself, so he can't even trust himself. As opposed to Loki, who, upon meeting other versions of himself, learned to work together with them to achieve something bigger, not only with Sylvie, but with the other pruned Lokies to defeat Alioth...
And that's what's going to shift the scale in the end battle between these two.
He didn't do partnerships before he was betrayed. It seems to be a trait with him.
Didn't think of that contrast but that is great!
That's why I want this to end with Multiverse Loki's vs. Multiverse Kang, another Multiversal War
Kang walking into his shop and Ms Minutes playing “Let’s Get It On” 😂
Also important to realize that He Who Remains said "A variant of me lived in the 31st century." LIVED, not born, but lived. Meaning if you want to be pedantically literal (and I mean, what channel are we watching here?) it doesn't mean he has to be from that time, but came to that time after inventing/utilizing time travel.
Thank you. That is exactly what I think is happening here.
That's a good point cause when renslayer put the tva book in baby kings room it created a branch, which means there's probably baby kangs throughout all of history on the main timeline just waiting to be activated like a sleeper agent incase his 3100 self some how doesn't become aware of time travel he has variants set up as a contingency plan where that version ends up being he who remains by the end of it all cause remember he who remains said it himself that he's old and countless times throughout the 2nd season everyone is eluding to the fact that they've been working at the tva for eons and maybe even longer than they think cause clearly he who remains reset their memories somehow 🤔
I loved Wandavision as a love letter to the history of TV. No landing required.
I do loved it too, even I have some complains about the last episode, still really loved it.
I think it did stick the landing. It just wasn't what we thought. We wrote a much bigger ending based on the hype.
I love the dynamic of Kang and Loki. As Loki has a deep fear of being alone, and all Kang wants to do is remain alone. They are each others paradox in a way
I'd say they are each others antithesis. The being each others paradox doesn't really make sense.
Ms. Minutes has seemed like a villain (perhaps not THE villain) from the beginning.
That scene with three Kangs in Quantomania. They were talking about the death of he who remains in Loki not the Death of the Kang in Quantomania.
Thank you.
Makes its a whole lot more interesting
Interesting take. He Who Remains must have imposed an exile on himself and all the Kangs are just like 'okay'
@@samuelchung1150or HWR had those 3 variants locked in there and were only freed when he died, it would explain why all those Kang variants are *just now* spawning in, and cheering because they know a war is coming between those variants and the rest of the multiverse.
The whole realisation blew my mind
I’m still of the thought of 30th century clone technology and time travel helps put Kang in a dominate position.
Go talk to Ego from GOTG 2 about universal domination. He tried to sleep his way to conquest.
This recent episode just shows Johnathan majors range is insanely incredible!! I’m so excited for his career in the Multiverse saga!!!
This did not age well😢
The first thing I thought of when I saw that shade of "key lime pie" was Soylent Green.
I've been saying, it seems like Kang is pulling a Rick Sanchez. Kang made the "Sacred Timeline" to secure his rise to power. I'd bet that everything was different until a Kang made a change and realized what he could do and become and had a TVA manual delivered to himself and this starting his journey. As things unfolded he had to learn what others changes needed to happen and he kept making adjustments until all the variables were accounted for creating the "Sacred Timeline" and kept it repeating and separate in the best way he could to still win and become He Who Remains. Loving season 2 of Loki.
Loki is by far one of my favorite shows
For me Moon knight is still at the top….
But Loki is not far behind.
@@Son-of-Kryptonmoon knight had potential but the pacing sometimes was atrocious
And you dont even know the name of it.
@@joshhigdon4951 It’s literally Loki tho
Loki will leave us wanting more! Season 3 will be between Avenger films
even though kang has many variants that may actually unite at some point, i think that all kangs are very territorial by nature and are not about ruling beside anyone, not even himself
But what about the council of Kangs
@joshagard488 i believe it's almost inevitable that the council exists with the way he has gone about eridicating any opposition. However, they did end up clashing to leave he who remains, hence not even himself
Thats a good question, do they sleep? I mean i get that the TVA is in a place outside space and time but they still need to eat, and sleep? I mean with no sense of time and it basically not existing in the TVA i assum they'd still get tired. These are the answers thst we need!!!
Why don't they age right?
I like all the shows! Just the fact they even bringing these characters to life is good enough to see because I’m older, I have over 1,000 comics and never thought I’d see these shows in my lifetime! Just subvert expectations and enjoy!
I'm right there with you. It's great to see my favorite comics come to life
Yep Disney just out here cornholing my childhood hahahaha
💯…. And they’re only scratching the surface. We haven’t yet got X Men in the MCU 😮
@@martinisholt7052 I know even xmen 97 has me frothing
Maybe he who remains wrote a special note in that specific TVA handbook that says "do not partner with anyone". Because Remains felt betrayed in the future and didn't want it to happen again.
There are cases for ancestors looking alike in the MCU. Peter’s principal, Principal Morita and private Jim Morita who fought along side cap as a howling commando. Timely could just be related…
Any Branch before the temporary loom gets weaved into the sacred timeline. But any branch from the weave after passing through the looms becomes a problem especially when there are many that cross = incursions.
QUICK QUESTION.
WASNT KANG TRYING TO BE PARTNERS WITH JANET VAN DYNE IN ANTMAN 3 ? OR WAS THAT A VARIANT?
I feel like the start of episode two was so fast paced because we’re gonna get an alternate perspective of those happenings later on.
I hope so and I still waiting to se what happened to General Dox and the modified tempads
Timely not tolerating partnerships is what connects him specifically to He Who Remains and differentiates those two from ALL other Kangs (who formed a huge partnership in the CoK's)
Makes a lot of sense. They even use the word "Marvel" there own thing.
They both don't have facial scars
So basically what is happening… the events of Loki is happening simultaneously with the events of Avengers Infinity War/End Game. When the timelines get pruned, is when Thanos did the snap with the infinity stones… now that the timelines are coming back again, that is thanks to Tony Stark when he does the snap with the Gauntlet. Ultimately, everything is being orchestrated by Kang. It could go that way, or it could be from the events of Doctor Strange. Both makes sense
You guys keep forgetting that the Sacred Timeline doesnt mean its an actual prime time line, its just a timeline that He Who Remains created. So yes i do agree that he went back in time to his youth, plucked himself out as a baby and placed him in an earlier time to hide himself.
Remember vision was supposed to be ultron's body and vision ends up getting with Wanda
🤔
So you think Ms Minutes will become Jocasta?
I have loved EVERY episode this far. Seeing Loki growth (powers & emotions)...period scenes...crazy AI...plot points❤🎉
I'm enjoying Loki's growth a lot. He's come a long way since Thor 1 and Avengers 1.
What if a variant of Kang travels back in time to talk to the young Victor, scares him, and he becomes Iron Lad. Most of the shows set up at least one member of the Young Avengers, and Iron Lad is a founding memeber...
Why's no one talking about when hunter B-15 told mobius they're getting a really weird tempad reading(He who remains') which was a reference to sylvie's presence at the Chicago fair .
Keep in mind, it's He Who Remains that decided what the "Sacred Timeline" is, so any timeline may be a branch of every other, thus making the "Sacred Timeline" no different than any other than what HWR wanted.
The people at rockstars are asking the important questions.
Have we forgotten about the rat in Endgame? 🤔...that started the Loki variant.
It's like A.I.D.A., Fitz, and Jemma in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Was hoping to see Jessica in these every Sunday 🥲
When Renslayer dropped that book in the window it made the time branch from the sacred timeline.
But who decided that sacred timeline is what should be happening?
@@adamH.1 Good question.
What if renslayer is a variant of kang 😮😮
That’s exactly what I thought at end of the recent episode 🤔
Yes!!!!!
What if Kang is a varient of renslayer?😮
No
That's what I was thinking when I watched it
I don't know if this is a part of the secret but the sacred time-line becomes whatever time-line that he who remains variant comes from. So if Victor wins the war his time-line becomes sacred. I do think that at one point renslayer ruled the tva fell in love with Kang and he with Ms minute's led a coup and usurped power. This is why kangs don't do partners
So, are you saying that Kang Conquered/Clocked/renSlayed Ms Minutes? 😎😂
What makes Kang a Kang? We don't do partnerships
I am still trying to discern where/when? the Quantumania mid-credits scene takes place. It's obviously before the multiversal war as there is a Council of Kangs that mostly seems to work together.
@ThePlayTyperGuy the council seems more like they were prisoners or refugees waiting for HWR to bite it. They were referring to He Who Remains getting cut down by Sylvie, Kang was seemingly trying to get out on his own. The others seemed to have been biding their time to even bother trying? At least that was my read.
@@cctomcat321 interesting
Both of you have so much chemistry…. Keep making shows together…..😊
I think Kang knows that that GENERAL would be destroying different banch lines at that period, thats was why he planned on giving his younger version that Manual, so they wont know which branch time line to eliminate. Now that he has the book, he is trying to enter the sacred timeline so that he wont be caught by his other kang variants.
Notice that all these are happening the same period in the present. Once Victor Timely goes to the TVA, it means he has entered his future and he is still going to be in the sacred timeline. HE WHO REMAINS is just manipulating the SACRED TIMELINE.
I strongly think that he has duplicated himself and he will activate his memories once he gets to the TVA.
@10:35 "residue" aka He who remains 🤣
Maybe when Kang got defeated by Antman instead of going through time, time went thru him and he arrived in the 19th century as a child like Scott did in Endgame
Mind blown
That’s really good!
I like this but I do not think it will be what they do, I do think that while Kang was inside the engine with all those duplicates of himself he got some work done for when he comes back. It is possible he discovers Alioth there even.
👀👀👀👀
That's Kang the Conqueretor. He's a total different variant and has nothing to do with loki or He Who Remains
GREAT vid assessment! ( As usual), Love Mod!
Can we just stop with all this speculation and take a moment to appreciate how gorgeous Renslayer looked in that 1890s outfit?
I reckon Renslayer is a Kang variant and that's what the big "secret' is.
Renslayer is the daughter of Kang & Ms Minutes , thats the secret :)
what if Renslayer is a female variant of Kang like loki and sylvie
i think Kang / Victor Timely came from 19th century. But he became Kang / acquire the knowledge that made him to be Kang later in his life. It became a branch timeline because he was given the book / acquire the knowledge in a way he is not supposed to
Love your guys back and forth dialogue, bouncing ideas off one another.
I think I saw that the credits foreshadow future episodes. In ep 1 we see a glimpse of young Victor timely picking up the tva handbook and other moments in ep 3. Still need to go through ep 2 credits to keep a look out.
I think this Kang will become The Beyonder it would fit with the upcoming movies!
Has anyone noticed that the location General Dox used to hide out and prune the timelines was Kang's laboratory?
Let me go back & look. Didn’t notice that.
Yooooo you spot on…..
It’s not tho…
I’m thinking that Kang was the first person to meet OurOboros and gave him the tva handbook with all of his inventions in it then OB rewrote the whole thing in his name. Also each time the timeline resets whoever reads the book writes it in their name
What if at the end of quantumania the kangs that gather and say he’s dead ; what if what if they meant he who remains and not the kang from antman
Well let's be real here . Kang did get lonely right ??
Y'all are so close to 4 millions subs!
Yeah, I gotta say... I wasn't expecting any of this. lol. I'm not saying that I'm disappointed...in fact I'm quite curious to see what happens next!
Infinity Stones not working in certain places has always been a horrendous oversight in all mediums. He can still take them to any timeline and even if he couldnt you can always grant yourself infinite power or create something that does work with nearly the same power.
It depends on when the branch formed. Before going through the Tempo Loom or After
Okay what if Victor timely is the original Kang and he was always given that TVA book and somehow something happened to where all the other variants were born in the 31st century. So it’s like a self-fulfilling prophecy. He was given the book which made it branch off. But if he had never been given the book, he would have just grown up and not became a Kang, thus not becoming a threat to He who Remains. Therefore, it is he who remains who actually sets in motion the multiversal war so that there is a reason that he is needed in the future with the TVA.
I think he was kidnapped from time from the future and put there as a baby because kangs backstory is he is from the future.
And I do think it matters that Kang in the comics is a descendent of Reed Richards, who doesn't exist in the Sacred Timeline ... so far.
I love the idea that the reason we haven't yet seen the First Family of Marvel is because of HWR's interventions.
Victor timly is just a variant he who remains put on the sacred timeline to fix the loom when it breaks while it is broken all the other variant of kang can find him kang also dont believe he was exiled I believe he is hiding from them .
@@ThePlayTyperGuy kang uses Reed Richard's teleport device wen you see the council of kang look how thay appear in doctor strange Multiverse of madness reed Richards uses the teleporter to appear when strange meets the illuminati
Remember he who remains said he ended the Multiversal war not that he defeated all his variants. It was more like he found a way to keep them away from his sacred timeline that is isolated from the rest of the infinite multiverse.
To me, Kang can only exist from the same source line, how can there be a separated time line not related at all from the called sacred line and still have a Kang in it?
Baby Kang was born here, I think...
So on the main timeline when Loki went MIA, what are the Avengers doing in that moment? Are they looking for him since he was supposed to go beck to Asgard with Thor? What is Thor doing in that moment and Asgard. With Loki now removed from main timeline, the events that we saw from 2012, what changed and what remains the same!?
I got a interesting question, well maybe not so much but what if Kang (or any of his variants) got his hands on Time Stone (because we know TVA has all infinity stones there), would it help him additionaly to his time travel stuff or it would be just redundant or not a use at all?
This is Ultron all over again
Woah! Yall are about to hit 4 milli!
Loki’s time slipping is NOT RANDOM 😮
exactly my thoughts!! I am wondering if HWR ever slipped as Loki did in the first episode?
Yall should do Wheel of Time videos before season 3 comes out
You guys are just the best…
If this has been addressed pls let me know but the comment about Loki being a God got me wondering as he was a Frost Giant did he copy Asgardian DNA?
He was the child of a frost giant and a god.
loki is following the tva because his timeline was pruned and he wanted to get to the top of it. like he states in the first ep season 1 think.
Now that’s my kinda headline 👏👏
What if renslayer is kang variant paralleling the Loki and slyvie connection
What if the young Victor is the Kang from Quantumania? What if when he was pulled into the time core engine he got spat out onto a much earlier point of the sacred timeline. It’s very unlikely, but would be interesting.
that's interestinggg
but wasn't kang put into the quantum realm by the other Kangs as he was too dangerous
maybe it was him who started the war tho.. and well he who remains
That makes no sense bc that Kang was a threat to other Kangs and they banished him into the Quantum Realm
I think the conversation between Kang and renslayer will happen in the last episode
Where they will team up
probably that's how they'll end it
LOKI SEASON 2 IS THE BEST !!
19:59 not to mention the Sacred Timeline is a contrivance of He Who Remains to isolate himself from his other variants. So He Who Remains must have either made The Sacred Timeline arbitrarily the one that included a version of himself hidden in history, or he had artificially placed a version of himself hidden in history as a way for the whole of existence to reset when he got tired enough to guide Loki and Sylvie to him, as depicted in Season 1.
Interesting
I am glad it's not just me that theorise there is more than one "sacred" timeline. At least two timelines controlled by two separate Kangs
So if Kang can’t exist in a partnership, how could that ego allow for OB to be credited as the author of the handbook!?!
It seems to me the entire episode revolves around Victor Timely's distaste for partnerships or romance. He fears others might benefit from his genius, taking advantage.
10:12 Solo a Star Wars story has a reference to Lando banging a robot 🤷🏻♂️
I usually watch these with my kids, but I had to do a doubletake on this one 😂😂😂😂😂
@20:00 the reason Timely did not get pruned after being given the book is that only ever happens AFTER the TVA stops pruning timelines.
The key here to understanding is the Sacred timeline HWR made does NOT have to be the same history which led to the OG Kang. It is a scripted cycle designed to allow for Kang to be reborn as HWR whenever he needs to by stopping pruning and giving his tucked away kid version the book.
Timely may not have existed in the first run of history and there is no reason to think it is just some kid who looks like HWR and not an actual variant of him taken from the OG timelines and planted way in the past of the sacred timeline as a failsafe.
I agree every episode has been HEAT ! PRESSURE! I’m a recently inducted marvel nerd and huge fan of all Anthologies, hands down Loki, Wanda Vision and What If have been some of the most enjoyable shows for me period and my favorite out of the MCU ❤ nice to hear from people who agree since most fans I know are more here for the super hero’s and action !
how was kang able to to "tame" olieth? Im guessing sylvie/loki?
Love Maude's Southern-drawl-by-way-of-Australia accent 👍😅👍 Agree w/Eric that hoping they stick the landing (as opposed to Wandavision) of the season's end, and that 2012 Post Avengers 1 Loki is a crucial point, dare I say nexus point important vs if they had a variant from q a different point in time💪💪
i like the thought of valence variants, that a variant can occur at a different point on the timeline
Would you say Kang always needs to be the onw holding the scalpel??
Mobius( balder) half brother of loki?
Loki is so cool
The still tho!!!! 😂😂😂 I had to click on it
i disagree; i think as long as he enjoys working at the tva (& it seems like he does) he will be inclined to stay on the series
The first thing that caught my attention was the video screen, Did they f*ck...😂🤣
Predestination remember that movie? Blew my mind
Just watched episode 4. I don't think anyone could have guessed that
Looking forward to The Thing breakdown. It's in my top 3 movies of all time
i get the thinking of kangs being against partnerships, but could you call kang from antman and janet a partnership since they survived together?
HWR may not be Victor T. He may have defeated the Kang of the Sacred timeline. In his past but a future that's not happened yet
MRS MINUTE IS LOYAL TO HE WHO REMAINS! She playing Renslayer, the Lokis, Victor.. (BTW she talked to Victor about her desires because she would never speak to He who remains in that manner, she just used his likeness briefly to get that off her lack of a chest, lol)
So far all that we've seen has been pre planned and inevitable, we see Kang statues throughout the TVA. He will rearrive and rule. We're juat watching that happen and Mrs. minutes knows she's the perfect subordinate to make that happen for him AS THE ONLY RENSLAYER VARIANT IN AI FORM WHO WAS WILLING TO PLAY THE ROLE WE ALWAYS WANTED HER TO SETTLE ON. ITS HE WHO REMAINS, NOT WE WHO REMAINS!!
Just my wild theory.. we'll see..