Loki Season 2 Pitch Meeting
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In the midst of all the Marvel content that was released on Disney Plus during Phase 4, the first season of Loki was one of the series that arguably got the most favorable reactions from critics and fans alike. That’s why it’s now the first MCU show to get a second season.
Loki Season 2 definitely raises some questions. Like is this the first ever case of a flirtatious clock. How does time work differently at the TVA? Do we get to see Owen Wilson on a jetski?
To answer all these questions, check out the pitch meeting that led to Loki Season 2!
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Producer guy's "Ugh" after explanation of why Sylvie would help is hillarious and also 100% fact
Yeah it makes me think of earth Vader in episode 6 where he only turned good when the empire threatened his personal interests
Classic Earth Vader
I mean, she's a Loki... she's suppose to be a villain.
@@Dude-xb3xhin episode 3 Anakin only turned evil because he thought it would benefit his personally interests. He’s not really the best written character ever.
Finally someone acknowledging how awful a character she is!
“Everyone’s favourite villain that hasn’t been a villain in 10 years”
Bro just described Loki perfectly
I had no idea how true that is, can’t believe thor 2 was 10 years ago
@@bluesEvanskro and even in that one i'm not sure if we can call him a villain.
He's honestly a hero now
@@francesco8000 yeah I was thinking the same even that’s a stretch
Loki is an antihero, not a villain.
The “I’m loving it”, the “Wooow”, and the “Tight Flirtatious clocks” were god tier comedy 😆😆😆
Lets not forget the “mamma mia” snuck in
Mama Mia!
Stop it...😏
...stoooop...
"Mamma Mia" moments just had me rolling :D
2:47 When he glances at the clock and goes "staahhppp" 🤣🤣🤣
I lost it at the Owen Wilson “Wow.” 😂
I scrolled through to find out how many comments in before the Owen Wilson wow was mentioned 😆
Hey man, I dont know what you lost but I hope you find it~
First time?
"Waurawr"
Is that what that was? He's gotta work on that lmao.
Can't believe he didn't mention how the flirtatious clock lady also smiled as 20 people were being squished to death
Murderous cartoon clock ladies are tight!
Right? Miss Minutes was enjoying that too much 😨
Gotta be the second most brutal moment in the MCU after Thanos snapping half of existence out of the universe. And it was just treated like an "okay then"
...mind you thats what the snap and everyone gone for 3 years has been treated since infinity war so I guess thats consistent.
She's gonna have a great time with Deadpool. They'd make a great team - in a twisted sort of way.
War crimes got her minute hand standing fully upright. It looked like she was going to blow a load while watching that. Creepiest villain in the MCU.
After so many seasons, one would expect the Pitch Meetings to go stale and dull, but to the contrary, they just keep getting better and better. This one was a jewel, including the Jerry sketch homework (totally worth it).
The second he started talking about that skit, I immediately yelled, “ I like to skateboard, I’ll never do anything to ruin our friendship like poop my pants!!”
because every time we learn something about Producer Guy and Writer Guy. For example, the very understandable crush the Producer Guy has on that clock...I mean, who wouldn't?
Ironically pitch meeting which has been going for 6 years has yet to go stale but Loki did within two years
To be fair, Hollywood gives him all the material he needs to roast them.
The "wipe and wash your hands" comment wouldn't have made sense if I hadn't done the homework
My biggest problem with this whole season with Sylvie. She just keeps saying that they should just burn the whole thing to the ground spray the TV and the whole time I’m just thinking “what does that look like“ like the destruction of everything? They basically say that in like the last episode as if it’s some reveal and I’m just like um yeah DUH?! Like really what did she think would happen. On top of that, she clearly has nothing to do this season. Her motivations are all over the place. It’s clear the writers just had no ideas for how to continue her story so they settled on “let’s just stop having her make any sense.”
Also Renslayer is like:
I haven't been here for 2 days and look how it is...
Like bitch, you never did anything special. At best, you are a mediocrilly competent manager.
Yeah, agree. I felt too she was shoehorned in the second season.
And the most maddening thing was, regarding Sylvie, is that even tho she made the wrong decision (which would have resulted in the termination of all life if not for Loki) she just refuse to acknowledge it.
And left Loki cleaning up her mess.
Sylvie did not make the wrong decision with the information at her disposal.
She had finished her mission and was willing to clean up the mess (Kangs) she knew could appear. See her attempting to kill Victor Timely initially.
She knew the TVA and its pruning were unnatural, so she had no reason to assume everything would fail if He Who Remains actually died. All she was doing was returning things to how they should be.
She tried helping them save the loom when they thought it was the solution. Her surviving the potential destruction of it and everything being better led her to believe the problem was solved.
Loki didn't sacrifice himself to clean up her mess. He sacrificed himself to clean up the mess He Who Remains made. There was no good option. He had a few possible solutions, and as Mobius said, you have to choose your burdens.
@@pepita2437what do you mean ‘the wrong decision’. The decision was either a multiversal war between all the ‘He Who Remains’s or taking away everyone’s free will forever. Neither are ideal, and it’s a subjective choice- you could very easily argue that either one is the wrong decision.
I think you don’t understand her philosophy. She is inherently an existentialist, and so consistently throughout the show, her number one priority has been freedom/free will. She initially wanted to destroy the tva to free the timelines because that’s what she thought would bring free will. But it’s not till later in the show that she realizes this would destroy everything except the sacred timeline anyways. You expect her to know about the failsafe? Regardless, once she realizes this, she joins Lokis side. In the end, she chooses free will again, letting Loki decide whether or not to kill her but implicitly compelling him to find another way. Her character perspective is more subtle than Loki’s as a result of her limited screen time, but it is masterfully written.
Between the flirtatious clock, the terrifying and delicious food references, and the Owen Wilson "woooaaww," this was one of the best Pitch Meetings in a while!
It is amazing to be able to come up with gems like this nearly every week or two. Curious if he is a riot at family gatherings with his brilliant banter.
Producer Guy was so cute with his clock-love
@@CorePathwaystoooop ☺️
Big agree
Hey, get off his back about it...
The aggressive confrontation following the "Flirtations Clock are Tight" proclamation was god-tier comedy.
Producer Guy should've just told Writer Guy to get all the way off his back about sexy clocks.
2:59 well that impression was incredibly, very surprisingly perfect
Just replace "He who remains" with Ryan George T_T
I like how Sylvie was responsible for damn near the death of the multiverse, Loki showed her proof and over and she still took absolutely no accountability
Not a shred! Lol and ppl defend her. I'm like, this one is pretty indefensible guys.
realistic.
they didn't handle well Sylvie's character, sadly
She is a woman, after all.
“I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.”
Thats your typical woman lol
Bashful Ryan getting hit on by his wall clock was adorable.
It really needs to become a running gag.
What a weird sentence to exist.
He's delusional. The clock was clearly gesturing for him to "talk to the second hand".
3:53 🤣🤣🤣 That was an INCREDIBLE timing my man!! I burst into laughter uncontrollably.
Wow! (Owen Wilson voice) lol
What I find strange about this series is that the only source of information is He Who Remains. And no one questions anything. He clearly has an agenda and interests to keep everything in control. The branched timelines only are deleted to maintain the one that He Who Remains calls the "Sacred Timeline".
This was explained. It is to prevent another multiverse war. He is from the Sacred Timeline, that’s why it’s called that. He wants to keep the Kang variants at bay.
That's what Sylvie thought, but the fact that the timelines all died that when the loom was destroyed proves he was indeed telling the truth.
I don't think so. He who remains says that loom was made as a failsafe to delete timelines to keep only the "Sacred" one.
they do question him, constantly. he just scripted their questions in advance without them realising
Well, Loki questioned it. I mean, he refused the options given by HWR and went with his own answer to the problem. So... there's that.
The Owen Wilson "wow" and the "mamma mia" killed me omg 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
FirstTime?
And all that when it clocked in at less than six minutes!
1:15 I've never heard someone fit the phrase "That doesn't make sense at all but I've stopped caring at this point," into a single word, but Ryan does it with just an "Okay." This is true talent.
... How young are you?
@@boobah5643 Weird question to ask a stranger on the internet
@@boobah5643weirdo
2:49 that "stooop" to the clock seemed so genuine 🤨
Sylvie absolutely killed me this season. She spent all of Season 1 fighting for everyone's freedoms and their right to choose how to live and when she's given the choice to fight once more or let literally EVERYONE die, she chooses not to because.. she really likes working at McDonald's? Not only does she refuse to clean up the consequences of HER actions, she also doesn't give a valid reason why. She didn't fall in love with someone, she didn't have a family, there wasn't some major thing keeping her busy. She was working a minimum wage job with nothing else going for her.
You are forgetting that even though Loki knew Sylvie made a mistake, the reason why Sylvie killed He Who Remains is because she was committed to her cause and did not believe anyone. She did not realise her mistake until the very last couple of episodes. Timeline branching was what she wanted, she got that. She got to live with regular citizen thinking they all have free will. When Loki approached her, he asked her to help him save the TVA. She does not want to. Loki calls TVA his home and wants to save it. TVA took Sylvie from her home and she grew up hating it. Sylvie was comfortable where she was while Loki wasn't. He had to do something so he gave several reasons. Loom breakdown, Kangs, multiversal war, TVA in danger, timelines in danger.
not to talk of "trapping" renslayer at the end of time with a goddamn tempad. like it was just stupid for no reason .
I don't know about you but I would sacrifice all of existence for the rich work environment and delicious food at Mc Donald's ®
I'd be loving it
But Sylvie didn't believe literally everyone would die, she never took the possibility of multiversal war seriously. She doesn't think a TVA is necessary and has no reason to care if the TVA is destroyed. Once her timeline ended up being destroyed, she was totally willing to side with Loki because she realized she was wrong. Also, I think the way she treats the people from her new timeline, like her coworkers or bookstore guy makes it clear that she's friends with them.
to be fair if you spend your entire life running from apocalypse to apocalypse and then manage to secure a quiet life, and then some guy you barely like tells you the world is ending you arent necessarily going to immediately jump to attention
Sylvie's presence in this season was completely superfluous.
Girl powah.
I hate it when they build up an awesome character only to give them nothing to do.
@byronheath8925 and also what was the point of loki and slyvie's romance. Like literally not mentioned at all and meaningless
@@byronheath8925 that's the problem when flesh out a "cool" one time ideas without thinking about the consequences. They weren't going to develop Sylvie into a love interest with that underlying incest/whatever you call it issue as a Disney product and her character arc was already completed last season.
@@byronheath8925 LOL she was never awesome. She was just there to check a box and replace Loki but they realized people like him too much.
This episode in particular was all kinds of great!
The Owen Wilson 'wow'.
The Donald Glover reference.
The 'mama mia'.
Absolute pure bliss.
The flirting with a clock
The 'mamma mia' was quality!
I’m lovin it
The sign off!
@@MMIGORyou got a friggin clock over there? 😏
This has to be one of the best ones. The flirtatious clock reference, the voice along with the obscure reference, the McDonald's joke. I can't believe after so many videos I am still surprised every time
This is definitely the funniest Pitch Meeting yet 😂😂, and you still managed to give the season the praise it deserves. Bravo, Ryan.
it deserved praise? aww that's cute.
It’s rare these days for me to watch a pitch meeting of a movie/show I’ve actually seen
Actually same lol, I saw "spoilers" and I was like, huh, im not getting spoiled
@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 they're only "spoilers" if you plan on watching it... I watched Game of Thrones from season 3 on through Preston Jacob's videos reviewing/mocking them. Far more entertaining than that dogshit show that utterly ruined the books with the absolute complicity of its fame hungry author who was more than happy to double down on it with House of the Dragon which utterly nukes the entire history of Westros and invalidates the whole reason for the civil war between the Blacks & the Greens.
Bruh😂😂😂 I just had a look at them to make sure but other than the revisted meetings the only movie I've seen in last 8 months of pitch meetings was interstellar😂
@@dramatticdevon4741 shit I’ll have to have a look you might be right 😂😂
I need to watch the movie/show first so I can get all the jokes
Him randomly saying “wow” in an Owen Wilson voice…. GOLD😂✌️
That was my favourite part of this video. 😂
The little Owen Wilson "Wow" really got me! Well done!
am i the only one that searched it and watched the whole "jerry" video from derrick comedy
I'm just haunted by the fact Loki spent hundreds of years mastering engineering only for it to not matter. Dude's like those of us who got advanced degrees and went into debt only to work in fields that have nothing to do with our degrees. 😭
I think his engineering knowledge informed his magic. It's like a science fiction writer who also has a PhD in theoretical physics.
Well don’t forget he was already about 1000 years old by the time of the first avengers movie.
When asked how long it would take to learn, OB considers it might be only decades instead centuries. So likely it only took about 2 or 3 centuries.
At 1000, he seems to be considered a young god, perhaps around his 20s compared to us. So 200 years should have felt like 4 years relative to him.
So he literally just went to get a college degree from his perspective lol
@@TW-sh2unLol that makes so much sense
And sometimes that works out perfect. I was hired for a position that had everything to do with my degree but I was sidetracked into something else that nominally used knowledge that I gained in a few classes I took. I made it my career for 31 years, became well-respected in my position and retired very comfortably. So don’t knock it, just run with it. Don’t be afraid to pick-up books or extra courses.
@@jpbaley2016 you should be afraid of the huge debt and no certainty.
So glad Ryan is leaning heavily into the"off my back" catch phrase.. it was deeply missed when it was forgotten about 😊 thanks Ryan
And we got two "Tight!" jokes
@@lapislazuli5035 truly an amazing time to be alive.
But nothing was super easy this time. I guess it was very much an inconvenience.to have Loki suddenly learn time travel.
@@slaaptI'm sure that will be in next week's video. 😂
Maybe you should get all the way off his back about that.
Made me actually laugh out loud twice:
The Owen Wilson "Wow" and at the end with his hygiene reco.
You are awesome!
Curious question. Is that the same stack of papers you've been using since the first pitch meeting? Or do you change them out?
Do they ever get used for anything else? Or are they specifically your pitch meeting papers?
This is very important to me. I must know.
Ryan saying "mistake" about dumping hours and hours of Marvel to Disney+ is 110% scientifically accurate
And even now, they're trying to give us stuff like Echo, Agatha, and Ironheart. Nobody cares.
They're seriously making an Agatha show? lmao
Disagreed 🤷♂️
@@charlesevanshughes3638I care about iron heart
Losing Billions is super easy barely an inconvenience for Disney.
Producer Guy realizing they did an oopsie is the best character development since Loki had in Loki.
Why is it a mistake for more Marvel content on Disney+? The shows have been so entertaining!
It’s a lot to keep track of
And they dilute the brand. Marvel’s success used to be that you didn’t want to skip a thing or you’d miss out on an important piece of the whole story. Now, if you can skip one thing on D+, psychologically you feel fine about missing films too
@lacolem1 it also means that if you're someone who doesn't keep up, it's nearly impossible to catch up. There is just way too much content in the MCU to keep up with and frankly it's just not worth the time. It was at least kind of worth it when it was only a couple movies a year.
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 bot
One of the few shows I actually cared and invested my time into. Both nice and sad to see it now end.
Forcing myself to finally get around to watching the entire S2 of Loki in the last 36 hours so that I can watch the new Pitch Meeting is TIGHT!
The Owen Wilson “wow wow wow wow wOoOw” was perfection
Ryan you’re truly a comedic genius. To not only find these points to make fun of in these shows and movies, but to be able to come up with incredible scripts and deliveries for the lines 😂 just incredible
It’s like Sal and Joe from impractical jokers had a baby
I should be super bored of this schtick by now and there should be no comedy left to mine in this premise, but, no, they still get better. The face he made when denying his clock-lust, i.e. when he got clock-blocked. I actually rewound it to watch it again.
They are edited, which makes it feels like there are two different people.
@@randomdude189nice to see an impractical jokers reference here
@@DarkDesertMoviesRyan is just repeating the actual plots of the shows movies. He really doesn’t make anything up. Thats what keeps pitch meetings so fresh and funny.
I can't stop laughing on " flirtatious clocks are tight " 😂😂
Crazy. I finished Loki an hour ago and wondered if the was a Pitch Meeting for it. What timing!
The Owen Wilson “wow” at 3:53 never fails to be totally spectacular 😩🙌
Ryan Shut It DOWN with that! An all-time moment.
I was not expecting that.
The whole "sending Viktor" thing was always silly to me. Loki is still a Frost Giant with Frost Giant physiology. He's still incredibly durable, and even if he ages a century or two while out there it won't really affect him since they live for so long anyway. They also shut down the magic dampeners to turn off Ms. Minutes, so both Loki and Sylvie could use their teleporting. Port out, put it in, port back. Simple.
Hey, I'm gonna need you to get all the way off of my back about that!
@@billy-bg9rxProbably not. Besides, Loki’s now a lot more powerful because he’s the…*checks notes*…god of stories, he decided.
Also Classic Loki showed us that Lokis get stronger as they grow older. The temporal radiation just make Loki stronger.
I always figured he shouldn't go out there because he's the only person who can go back in time and try again if it fails. Doesn't explain why Sylvie couldn't go though. Because chivalry, I guess?
I mean, no reason to think Frost Giant physiology offers any protection against getting ripped apart by time radiation. Which is a sentence that I typed just now.
By the same token I imagine teleporting through all that radiation would have deleterious effects. I mean its all made up nonsense, but that sounds like a sufficiently comic book-esque explanation.
Should have pointed out how they set up a bootstrap paradox when Loki prunes himself by time slipping and how OB wrote the manual that was given to Victor that gave Victor the idea to build the loom which in turn Victor told OB how it works.
The Bootstrap paradox in the TVA makes more sense since the TVA doesn't follow the time branching rules so stuff like a bootstrap paradox is possible. Victor Timely isn't a bootstrap paradox either, because He Who Remains isn't Victor Timely, the end of the show makes it pretty clear that Timely probably won't become He Who Remains (the true author of the manual).
I’m more confused on how He Who Remains started out as Victor Timely when, even with TVA interference, he likely never completed the work necessary to build the TVA, and that he shouldn’t have even come close without Renslayer influencing him.
Y'all are forgetting how the universe really works.
The timelines of the MCU are basically looping pocket universes inside the real overarching universe.
The real universe is what would be outside the timelines, outside those pockets, so in the show the TVA and surrounding emptiness.
The overarching universe has a "grand timeline" that keeps moving forward, while the timelines take place as those pockets off the grand timeline. The sacred timeline was literally a looping pocket timeline.
All the time travel rules discussed with Avengers are rules for withing a timeline, within one of those pocket universes.
The question of everything with Kang and Loki with the TVA takes place on the grand timeline, separate from the pocket timelines.
The universe existed, with only one timeline, until the first ever choice, then it started branching. There is no TVA.
Branches start producing Kangs. Kangs start fighting.
One Kang, Kang the conqueror, wins and defeats all other Kangs. That's why he's called that.
Once he's the only one left, he converts his army into a TVA, erases their memories, and takes the name He Who Remains.
He oversees the TVA making the sacred timeline, which is just the timeline he was from, loop repeatedly without branching for someodd kajillion years of the grand timeline of the overarching universe.
He decides he's done, arranges to be taken over or killed, gets killed, branches form again, new Kangs form.
Those new Kangs start fighting.
One of those Kangs has greater success than others, and becomes known as Kang the Conqueror. Again. The KtC we see in Antman is at earliest the 2nd KtC, because HWR was one first.
Without the actions of Loki in the show, that new KtQ would eventually beat all other Kangs, make his timeline the only timeline, probably call it "the holy timeline" create a new TVA, and take the name "He Who Remains" or some similar paraphrase.
He rules from there for a kajillion years. Decides he's done. It all happens again.
The Kang and TVA events of the MCU could and honestly would be cyclical. We don't even know if the instance we see in the show is the first time around.
I expect the premise is that Loki has now ended the cycling of Kangs, but really, maybe some day Loki will decide he's done and Kangs will start cycling sacred timelines again.
I actually liked how season 2 ended. I really liked Lokis entire arc. Him ruling over time, getting gis throne and his kingship, in a proper way, was on point. Now, grab the popcorn and lets watch Disney burn down. Cant wait for the deadpool 3 pitch meeting.
I thought the whole thing was dull and pointless. But at least it means Loki isn't knocking about in the universe where he shouldn't be, after the shitty retconning of everything that had happened before by the massively overrated Endgame.
This is brilliant. The flirtatious clock and sewing device jokes were top notch.
Yup💯😂
A Donald glover reference in a pitch meeting and how screenwriter guy didn’t let the exec get away with being into clocks was tight 😂
That "staaaaaahp" made me laugh so loud it basically rang in my car. This one felt a little different, but funny as ever
I love that Loki spent centuries trying to figure out how to make the Loom bigger, yet not at one single point did he or any of the other 2 geniuses in the room, think that making the Temporal Loom bigger, would in fact NOT account for an infinite amount of branches... Unless they made it infinitely bigger... Because fucking obviously...
I never thought I’d hear the “I would never POOP my PANTS” sketch referenced in a Pitch Meeting but here we are…
“Derrickcomedy Jerry” has been in my search history for like a decade and now it finally comes in handy
SAME! I was in high school watching those videos
I have a feeling Ryan not including Ravonna's name even once in this video is a joke on how oddly placed and kinda insignificant she was in season 2. She was built up to be important in the season 1 finale, and then we got this.
Ravonna and Sylvie's story may have been the weakest links of Loki s2's character oriented plot.
Also all that stuff with Brad/X-2 or whatever his name was. (How come Loki and Mobius were always switching his name?) Did he matter at all? He had zero bearing on the story, it felt like. Also what was the point of the woman in the wheelchair? Where did the Scottish lass come from? Should we have cared about any of those people? And I agree they wasted both Renslayer and Sylvie.
@@The_Serpent_of_Eden X-5/Brad was there as an example of a TVA agent choosing their life over their job, with B-15 and Mobius choosing the opposite. Other than that, nothing that much.
I've a strong feeling they worked out those were the elements that were dragging the show down and chose for want of a better word to "Prune" them as much as was possible from this season...what with the single biggest and probably most legitimate gripe about the first season was the push to move Loki the character from main protagonist on a journey to supporting lead in other people stories...
@@johntowers1213 true. Loki s1 was criticised for sidelining Loki in his own show once Sylvie was introduced.
Even though they sidelined Sylvie here, the end result was still one of the best character arcs in marvel history.
@rudrodeepchatterjee
True. It's much better to sideline Sylvie than Loki in a show called Loki.
I think Loki was sending Victor out to the loom because he can time slip, so they get infinite attempts, it Loki goes out there and dies the universe just ends. He figured he can eventually get it to work, with enough attempts, so this is the only safe way to save the universe. It makes sense.
No it doesn’t 😂
@@caelanroberts8566 The first time Victor goes out there he just insta dies. The radiation was too high. It took centuries of min-maxing the speed run to get to the point we see at the end where Loki survives. If Loki had just gone out there 1st he may have just instantly died! How does this not make sense? He only took the risk of going out there himself when he had literally no choice.
@@ericarezzo6675He still had the choice to Kill Sylvie.
Also strange how he not only just go out there, but also knows how save all timelines without testing on Victor, that would be safer.
I😊 wish these were longer 😭😭😭 it's literally like the highlight of my day and I rewatch them all the time
3:52 best moment, wow :)
3:19
Just came back from typing “Derrick comedy Jerry” into the search bar on CZcams
And yeah it’s pretty accurate
Flirtatious clocks are tight!!!
Funniest thing I heard this month! 😂 keep em coming! 🎉
Man, you just keeping better and better at this. Mixing up catch phrases with new takes - the return of get off my back, the "no, let's go back to that tight thing"... I keep telling people about you, and you never disappoint. Fantastic job!
3:25 i just did exactly that and after i got done being incredibly excited over the fact that ryan even knows about derrick comedy, i can say HE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT
lol same!
Maybe he's the principal...or the new kid Brian, He likes to skateboard!! #Derrekcomedy gold. I use to watch all of them. "To catch a Bro" is still my all time favorite.
Did you guys read the first comment on the video? It's Ryan
@@F615yo he left that comment 3 days ago but this only went up 22 hours ago, holy crap...
That couple of second with the wall clock was comedy genius.
The writers didn’t just not know what to do with Sylvie for season two, they clearly didn’t want her character there at all. Watching season one and season two back to back is such a weird experience because season one is so beautifully character driven & S2 is not. I felt like they even didn’t care that much about Mobius and Loki‘s relationship. I did love the ending though.
Agreeeeeeeeed.
This season was bad but the final episode is great. It also made loki crazy powerful. Like seriously he might be the strongest character now
They are both bad.
@@OilFreeFeathers especially the second season. Because the first one has an amazing production. Like a remember the storm scene or the dying plant scene or even the fight of old loki vs Goliath. But season two is either them eating green cake or them eating at McDonald because of product placement.
Omg thank you so much for referencing "Jerry" that's what I thought the whole damn time 😂
I'm happy you called out that they don't follow their own time traveling rules. I felt like I was taking crazy pills.
Woosh... Loki doesn't control time. He is time. So he can travel up, down, sideways, anywhere he wants without upsetting anything.
The rules in Endgame don't apply to him.
Loki jumps into his self through time it's like there will be no two Lokis at the same time not like the avengers did in endgame so it makes sense ...
@@eaindray_aoi7577 uhh what about the several times loki saw himself?
@@eaindray_aoi7577 No it doesn't. Time paradoxes are not about a persons being around multiple times at the same time. It's about changing the past in a matter that influences the present in a way, that changing the past becomes impossible in the first place. If Loki goes back, stopping a thing in the future, why would he ever feel the need to go back in the past to change it, if the thing never threatens him in the future. Avengers established a good solution to this. The blip happens no matter what, fueling the need to do something about it, but still gets solved by time travel with a little delay.
@@stefanschneider5427 I think the key distinction with the time travel in Loki is that he ultimately never actually changed anything that happened in the TVA. He pruned his past self because it was always him that pruned himself, gathering his friends from their timelines didn't solve his time slipping "problem", and all his efforts to prevent the loom from overloading came to nothing because the loom could never be "fixed". The whole plot was about him coming to the realisation that he couldn't weasel his way out of this one, that it didn't matter who else he gathered or how fast they did it, he had to make the sacrifice himself.
There was that scene about half way through where Sylvie is pushing him to express why he's really trying to save the TVA. "I want to save my friends because, without them, where do I belong?" He Who Remains tried to sculpt Loki into a tyrant to replace himself and perpetuate the "sacred timeline" and, though he was successful in drawing out the specific power, he failed by overlooking the change to Loki's character brought by his interactions with people. In the end, Loki finally realises where he belongs: saving his friends (and everybody else) for the rest of eternity.
flirtatious clocks ftw
Great work Ryan and team! Love your content!
The last ‘wow’ totally got me 😂 we love you Ryan
The eye roll and “ugh” was incredible 😂
How producer man actually feels about new MCU after money "uuugh"
1:45 that Im Lovin It line was genius 😂
Sylvie could have just phoned in this season and she basically did. A lot of the build up from last season wasnt sufficiently paid off. I think its because Kang is not living up to the threat they set him up to be. There was a lot of filler in the middle of the season.
I agree with you. Personally I still loved the show overall but I thought the first season was better.
well yea when kang gets shit on over and over and over again, it kinda is hard to take him seriously as a threat. lets himself die in loki s1, gets beaten by ants and some humans in antman3, and then we see him get turned to spaghetti an infinite amount of times in this season
Honestly I never liked him in the comic books and always thought he wasnt much of a threat. They didnt use him a lot when I was collecting, but they always talked about how dangerous he was, but I never saw it.@@dragonpaulz_
Well they don’t want to rely too much on Kang in case Jonathan Majors court case goes badly.
@@chloemayne6865 lmao all of these products were made well before all the court stuff started up
2:32 honestly got me, great video Ryan
The writer guy questioning the producer guy's usage of "tight" was the plot development I didn't know I needed until right now.
"Silvie is the best!"
"No she's not."
No truer words have been spoken.
Sylvie really sucked and my biggest problem with her being female version of loki is her not being like loki at all.
Yep seriously
Agree so much.
I just wish the series was more about Loki. :)
She made me soo angry in season 2.
I had the hardest time understanding her motivations at time in S2. But I found that to be the case with several characters.
I noticed that the only people talking so highly of this show are CZcamsrs who are paid by Marvel & Disney to make these videos. They always get invited to special events and that's why this show was talked about like it's the greatest thing ever
I got a Loki ad waiting to watch this lol
Serious talk: the bit about flirtatious clocks was HILAROUS. I spit coffee on my screen.
Jajajaja me 2 😂😂
This may have accidentally been his magnum opus. So good.
That clock was being very flirtatious there, trying to move things along much faster than I was comfortable with.
You haven’t learned NOT to be drinking while you’re watching these? 😮
Did you?
That groan he did when Sylvie finally decided to help is the same groan my family and I did when we watched the show. Finally, someone pointed out how stupid and selfish Sylvie is.
oh my god i remember that extremely specific derrick comedy reference this pleases me greatly
2:59 now that was some pretty accurate imitation 😅😂😂
I think the reason Loki did not volunteer for the walk was because even though he controlled his timeslipping, he was doubtful if, in direct contact with the time radiation, he would be able to timeslip back for a retry in case something messed up.
He kept himself safe to get infinite retries.
Bro became time stone without using the time stone
save scumming
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@@naluzoniro it's own my character sheet
@@naluzoniro Sometimes you just need to see what happens when you kill that chicken.
I am just glad that Loki was the focus of his own show this time and the rest of the cast, everyone, made the show all the better.
This.
That.
Agreed. In fact, it was so much more well done that season one was forgivable when taken as a whole. Sylvie was shown to be the other side of the coin of who Loki COULD be.
True.
I do wish the plot actually had some logical sense though. I liked what the overall show was going for, but they really didn't put much effort into the actual plot. Which unfortunately left me with a sour aftertaste even though I wanted to like it.
For instance, the big finale. It was a very cool scene that felt like it should be meaningful.
But I don't know why the crap it even needed to happen. The show never has an explanation.
So the main problem is this loom thing powers the TVA somehow with timelines. So they start trying to fix it to save the TVA.
Then all of a sudden it seems that if the loom and TVA is destroyed then all of reality is too. Never even addressed that. Just happened. Doesn't make much sense but OK. I was told that all the loom was doing was powering the TVA, which as far as I know doesn't have to exist for reality to as well.
Then later we are told actually all the loom is is a failsafe to delete timelines. How the crap did the TVA not know this? Are they not monitoring the timelines?
Then out of nowhere Loki just destroys the loom after knowing what it is. The TVA doesn't dissappear like before.
Then apparently the timelines are... dying? Why? Was that loom keeping them alive as well as deleting them? What the actual crap is going on?
Then Loki takes his place.
Also, I thought the TVA workers were the ones keeping timelines under control under the command of he who remains, as explained in season one.
Why does He Who Renains' death cause timelines to spread? Did his mere existence delete timelines? And with a backup loom? So is the TVA nothing but another backup?
WHAT THE CRAP IS GOING ON!!??
OK, how am I supposed to care about this if it makes no sense? I want to care about it, but come on.
And the show is absolutely riddled with smaller inconsistencies and holes and obvious questions. But they aren't as important as the main plot not making sense.
@@sawdust8691 "Then later we are told actually all the loom is is a failsafe to delete timelines. How the crap did the TVA not know this? Are they not monitoring the timelines?"
In season one there's a moment where new timelines start branching uncontrollably and every in the TVA starts shitting themselves, but if the loom is auto-deleting branches then how was that even possible? It just makes no sense if you think about any particular detail.
"she's not" in response to Sylvie's the best pretty much sums up this season
Hello, it’s me, the person who got the reference to Derrick Comedy’s Jerry sketch. I appreciated it
4:15 That *"UGH"* right there pretty much sums up how I felt towards Sylvie this whole show.
"Flirtatious clocks are tight!" 😂
That ending line 😂. Though very fair, since you usually upload pitch meetings in the middle of my workday.
3:43 wow wow weeeew
Ryan, you were ON FIRE with this one.
Seriously, how did you not notice while recording? Did it not hurt? Very distracting while watching too.
Lmao
this comment is literally on fire
you good? you need some water?
That “Woarw” just sent me.
This is probably one of the best pitch meetings ever. So many good bits. Very funny, very clever.
Honestly this seemed like a perfect story for Doctor Who, the loom is basically an explosive vest that take everyone else out with Kang, who assumes they will have to use time shenanigans to undo that, cause he assume everyone is as self interested as him. But all it took was Loki stepping in to replace the loom to ruin his plan, leaving him dead. Which is consistent with what they were setting up with Ant-Man. Kang is wildly arrogant & assume he can't be bested, which lead to him making openings for people to stop him, even if it cost them their lives.
Also Timely's voice was a bit weird & first, but consistent enough that I was able to write it off as a speak impediment.
It literally was a speech impediment. Even HWR makes fun of Victor's stutter in ep6.
Omg he totally referenced Derrick comedy!!! Damn nostalgic as hell! Haven't seen those videos since I was in high school when they first came out! I love their self defense videos really helpful, highly recommend!
2:26 The term, "getting clocked" just took on a whole new meaning. lol
You know watching the series it really feels like the writers saw Everything everywhere All at Once and thought they could do it better.
And they did! (both are great though)
@@jizzledoops6789 no they didn't. EEAAO was two hours of masterpiece, and this was a six episode series that was great at times, not as great at other times.
There was certainly... an attempt.
They even got one of the actors.
It was aight
Loki felt much more like a hero than a villain this season!
That "Stop!" & "WOW" was low-key genius! 😂
I haven't watched most pitch meetings, so I could be wrong, but I think this is the first time screenwriter guy acknowledged producer guy's weird "___ is tight!"
That was so unexpected, I love it
Nah he's done it a few times, calling him out for saying something gross. This one was definitely more adamant about pressing him for answers though.
What? You should binge-watch all of the Pitch Meetings then. After I found these videos I couldn't stop watching them.
Not the first time, but one of the funniest.
Check out the Onward one. That’s one of the earliest Pitch Meetings I remember it happening in.
@HelloIAMAnExist Hold up. You haven't watched most pitch meetings? What are you waiting for? There's a treasure of Ryan's talent to be had. Every pitch meeting is actually better than the actual shows it covers. I stand by that.
That hyper specific Derrick comedy reference did not go to waste. I used to watch it 16 years ago and man did I not expect anyone to really remember it
SAME!!!!
Right? I remember thinking he sounded like Donald Glover when I first heard Timely talk, but who was I going to tell that to?
The “oh wow wow wow” but with the last wow in Owen Wilson’s voice was subtle mastery by Ryan
Dude...that Derrick Comedy video is a certified CLASSIC. Haven't seen that video in a few years.
“Jerry” was my favorite Derrick Comedy sketch back in college, so I know exactly what he’s talking about, when Donald Glover’s character is pretending to be the principal. 😂 It felt this like this was directed specifically at people like me. 10/10.
Cool!
I loved all the extra specific things producer guy said in response to writer guy. I think this is your best pitch meeting yet.
Holy shit. I KNEW I recognised that voice and you're bang on, it's the principal! Love Derrick Comedy getting a shout out.
You're right, that was a very specific reference, and now I have donald glover shitting himself in my google search history.
I missed this line: "Oh, let me get off that thing."
Loveeeeedddd it!