The Belief It Or Not Podcast: 2023 In Review

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  • čas přidán 30. 12. 2023
  • We take a look back at some of the biggest religious stories of 2023.
    As always we are not experts, we just google this stuff.
    Hosted by Trevor Poelman and Damien Doepping
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Komentáře • 116

  • @pjgoldstein6562
    @pjgoldstein6562 Před 6 měsíci +160

    Hi Trevor - I'm sorry that the transgender video was so difficult for you to do. You put a lot of care in and it shows. I hope you know that speaking out against such hurtful rhetoric is very helpful. Even if you don't change a single mind, it helps to hear someone, anyone stand up for trans people as an ally. Ive been listening to it once or twice a week since it dropped. Hearing a cis man put that much work into trans defense adds so much oxygen back into the room and really helps me remember the "us against them" is 'loving people against bigots spreading misinformation' and not 'trans people against an entire world that hates them.' But I think you will change a mind or two. And I hope your proud of yourself about that.

    • @nocontextwhatever
      @nocontextwhatever Před 6 měsíci +12

      Yes, thanks for making it!! 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈💖

    • @teesh871
      @teesh871 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Well said

    • @godlessqueertheywarnedyouabout
      @godlessqueertheywarnedyouabout Před 5 měsíci +4

      I'm echoing this sentiment. Thank you so much, Trevor

    • @beccahawkins1905
      @beccahawkins1905 Před 5 měsíci +4

      I echo this too, Trevor. I’m so thankful for this content you produced. You have no idea how therapeutic it is for me to know you’re speaking out in support of us.

    • @VGKFAN37
      @VGKFAN37 Před 5 měsíci

      John 3:16
      New International Version
      For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. Look up the shroud of Turin. It's impossible to remake and the closest they ever got to debunking it. They took a sample from the wrong piece of the cloth

  • @MoonWomanStudios
    @MoonWomanStudios Před 6 měsíci +37

    I have a trans teen and I felt so supported and felt genuine care from you during that video. Thank you❤

  • @curiouslittlefrog
    @curiouslittlefrog Před 6 měsíci +38

    Thank you so much for being an ally to the trans community. When I first came out, this was one of the first channels I found that was affirming after being ostracized by my church and family. Your channel being a safe place means a lot to me personally, but I am sure the rest of the community feels the same. Thank you so much.

  • @Spaztastica
    @Spaztastica Před 6 měsíci +22

    I'll miss you guys so much during the break! I love getting my anti church on Sunday mornings, listening to you guys, as I drive by my old church, on the way to go indoor rock climbing. Now I get high literally instead of "on Jesus." 😂😂😂

  • @SilentEcho9194
    @SilentEcho9194 Před 6 měsíci +38

    The split within the United Methodist Church made headlines in the US this year. The more progressive people (pro LGBTQIA+) wish to remain and the conservative ones are leaving.

    • @BeliefItOrNot
      @BeliefItOrNot  Před 6 měsíci +8

      True. Not sure how I missed that one.

    • @mxKrysie
      @mxKrysie Před 6 měsíci +11

      This is how my parents left the UMC. They didn't like the split and they ended up finding a church that has a constitution that explicitly depicts trans and gay people as the cause of the end of the world.
      This was also after I came out to them as trans and have transitioned for almost 6 years now. And they still have the gall to think they aren't transphobic...

  • @serpenking
    @serpenking Před 6 měsíci +30

    As one of your transgender fans, it means a lot to me that you're such an outspoken ally for us :)

  • @nerdoftheatre
    @nerdoftheatre Před 6 měsíci +9

    8:37 "Go pick up a bible. Thats my stance." The same guy I feel like would get mad if you suggest that the poor deserve to eat and that you must love one another.

    • @suspicioususer
      @suspicioususer Před 5 měsíci

      This also implies that he thinks slavery should be legal

  • @zachariousoftroy
    @zachariousoftroy Před 5 měsíci +3

    How about a video covering tips for apostates? You could talk about the process of deconstructing the beliefs, dealing with the mental health consequences, forming your new beliefs and identity, what life is like afterward, etc from different angles and backgrounds

  • @Sforeczka
    @Sforeczka Před 6 měsíci +9

    I know it's not uncommon, but I'm often taken aback when I encounter Canadians who understand the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution better than a good portion of my fellow Americans. You are inspiring me to learn more about Canada and Canadian history.

  • @brushdogart
    @brushdogart Před 6 měsíci +7

    Aw, one of my best choir memories is when we took a train ride to Chicago. We weren't seated together so we all had no idea where the other choir members were. So somebody started singing the beginning of the set we had practiced and slowly the rest of us all started joining in from our scattered positions all over the train car. It was just pointedly non-religious carols but I hope we didn't upset anyone.

    • @tomhomunculus
      @tomhomunculus Před 5 měsíci +4

      Every choir kid I've ever known non-consensually sings at people in confined spaces and then gets offended if anybody doesn't enjoy it. No, mandatory concerts aren't usually fun for a literally captive audience.

    • @brushdogart
      @brushdogart Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@tomhomunculus Point taken. Glad that's in my distant past now.

    • @RainbowFlowerCrow
      @RainbowFlowerCrow Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@brushdogartSome people do enjoy that sort of thing though; that would have made me smile to hear beautiful singing, and if I knew the words, I'd probably have joined in!

  • @brandoncameron2686
    @brandoncameron2686 Před 6 měsíci +11

    We witnessed history with both Kevin McCarthy and George Santos being sent packing. Sadly, Santos will be more remembered by history than 98 percent of the people in the House. Santos is the epitome of what a clown show congress has become. No disrespect to clowns.

    • @JP-hj1il
      @JP-hj1il Před 5 měsíci

      Sorry, but George Santos is the microcosm of your government. What Santos did is minor compare to your celebrated politicians. Only difference, he was loud and did it in the open. It was a warning to anyone that want celebrity status as politicians, nonetheless your politicians are all corrupt.

  • @nerd26373
    @nerd26373 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Happy New Year. Wishing you all the best.

  • @presentfuture7563
    @presentfuture7563 Před 6 měsíci +5

    I just joined your Patreon, and I'm sorry to hear we won't get a Trevor and Damien show for a while. Will you still be doing the video essays in the interim? Because as an old apostate I love them more than anything. I mean, I'll still support you and your channel without them, but I kind of live for those. ❤️

  • @TheTommyTanya
    @TheTommyTanya Před 6 měsíci +10

    Yes, Happy New Year to you both! You guys make a good singing duo, very nice harmonization!!! Take care both of you, and I can't wait until you both are there to resume this madness,haha... Luckily we still get one of the Power Duo to carry on with this channel...!! Love you guys, here's to another year, we made it around the sun one more time!! 🥳🤪🎊🎉

  • @Enzorgullochapin
    @Enzorgullochapin Před 6 měsíci +2

    *"May the Force be with You"* and You

  • @andrewyako4058
    @andrewyako4058 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I love Damien's Video & Arcade Top 10 hoodie. That show was the coolest back in the day.

  • @Whimsicalbrainpan
    @Whimsicalbrainpan Před 5 měsíci +1

    Happy New Year you two! I'll miss you but glad you'll be back.

  • @ennuiblue4295
    @ennuiblue4295 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I wouldn't mind hearing you guys sing on a plane, you sound good ✈

  • @AnexoRialto
    @AnexoRialto Před 5 měsíci +2

    When you guys get back, how about an episode on Canadian Christianity and religious fundamentalism? The combination of big YT numbers and the train wreck that is American Christianity makes it hard to look away, but I'd be interested to learn more about what's going on in Canada. Cheers from Spain!

  • @Ray_Mac
    @Ray_Mac Před 6 měsíci +6

    If the podcast resumes in a few months, like April, how about a prank/April Fool's episode?

    • @Sadie12208
      @Sadie12208 Před 6 měsíci

      I hope they pretend to be born again or start their own church please 😭

  • @Inktransfercomics
    @Inktransfercomics Před 5 měsíci +1

    I definitely had an argument with my dad one Christmas where he was ranting about Muslims wanting to enact "Sheeya Law".

  • @twiggledowntown3564
    @twiggledowntown3564 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Happy New Year to you guys as well! My 2023 started off great, but towards the end it was okay at times.

  • @neoream3606
    @neoream3606 Před 5 měsíci

    I'm gonna miss you guys. I am crying.
    Where am I gonna get my sunday church services now

  • @georgem2334
    @georgem2334 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Happy New Year!🎈🎈🎈🎉🎉🎉

  • @MessiahRamsay
    @MessiahRamsay Před 6 měsíci +1

    Love y’all sm! Enjoy the break, it’s well deserved. It’d be cool if y’all did a series where u interviewed diff people from the exvangelical community

  • @stalheimAS
    @stalheimAS Před 5 měsíci +1

    Happy new year guys!

  • @rowanlavellan9755
    @rowanlavellan9755 Před 3 měsíci

    I haven't gotten to this part of the video, but I see people mentioning that you felt some kinda way about the trans episode. I'm not sure what happened (yet), but I'd like to go ahead and say that it warms me and strengthens me when I hear you talk about the struggles people face, even people very different than you. I'm trans, USAmerican from the Deep South, bisexual, present as female, chronically ill with both known and unknown illnesses. It moves me to hear the quiet rage and suppressed tears when you talk about the indignancies I face and that other groups face. As an exvangelical kid myself, I've cried so many times listening to you remind us that we're worthy of love. I've laughed and hit tables enthusiastically when you, or Damien, have made a point that just makes sense. I try to avoid parasocial feelings, but I do appreciate your work and how you share your own story of deconstruction and eventual deconversion, and especially how you urge your viewers to practice empathy and sympathy and kindness. It means a lot.

  • @Svafne
    @Svafne Před 6 měsíci +2

    Good new year!

  • @hildy208
    @hildy208 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I’m bummed that you’re taking a break. I look forward to your video each week!
    Trevor, I wanted to say that you’re looking so happy and healthy. Happy New Year!

    • @BeliefItOrNot
      @BeliefItOrNot  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thanks. The video essays will keep coming though

  • @EaglesQuestions
    @EaglesQuestions Před 6 měsíci +1

    When I was a kid, "Jesus was a liberal" was actually a gotcha-level apologetic or retort to throw at a liberal non-believer. I got it from a conservative Christian's talk radio show. Now, it's like everyone's forgotten that Jesus said or did anything other than scold Thomas for doubting.

  • @StormVII
    @StormVII Před 6 měsíci +2

    Hey! I just posted a major chapter on my story blog! 2 AM post buddies! Happy New Year!

  • @dl2725
    @dl2725 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I’m going to miss the funny blasphemy… no one does it like you guys! ❤❤❤

  • @Hexsmasher2099
    @Hexsmasher2099 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Happy New Year Trevor and Damien!!!

  • @elzenareyna6849
    @elzenareyna6849 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I’m so fake in love with Trevor and his goofy expressions rn ❤

  • @CBusCP
    @CBusCP Před 5 měsíci +1

    You guys will rock regionals 😂

  • @vickonstark7365
    @vickonstark7365 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Happy New Year guys! Thank you and looking forward to next years videos.

  • @katethielen3883
    @katethielen3883 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Question: murder doesn't have a statute of limitations, so why should assault?

  • @Madbmberwhatbmbsatmidnight
    @Madbmberwhatbmbsatmidnight Před 6 měsíci +1

    😂that’s the way I sing Auld Lang Syne too!!

  • @grunthostheflatulent2613
    @grunthostheflatulent2613 Před 6 měsíci +3

    christianity is summed up in one simple sentence.
    "I don't know, so I choose to believe instead..."

  • @user-mm5jr1xm8f
    @user-mm5jr1xm8f Před 6 měsíci +1

    Happy New Year 🥳

  • @fantasticmio
    @fantasticmio Před 5 měsíci +1

    That's so crazy... those are the same lyrics I sing to Auld Lang Syne!

  • @teesh871
    @teesh871 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Whatever you do i will watch. Yoir content really helps me. Im really sorry that happened to you with the powerpoint presentation. Thats a horrible feeling. I had a really nasty workplace experience over like...5 years i guess? I felt like i was doing so well and getting my career back together and it took one person to remind me of it...i felt my mouth go dry, my hands go numb and my vision blurred and i was right back there. Its the worst feeling and im so sorry. It does heal but man it's difficult.
    Anyway. As long as you are looking after you guys im happy with whatever you come out with. Thanks for all your help over the year.

  • @shayokami7410
    @shayokami7410 Před 6 měsíci

    Gonna miss you guys! Hope the break goes well and gonna hope some big good things will happen this coming year, despite how things are. Your channel and others like you have made me not feel as alone. I prefer my solitude, but I still want good leftist, atheist and lgbtqia friends, and yet, I'm surrounded by christian and non-christian magas and "a-political" types. So listening to you guys with everyone else here really feels like a "fellowship" of sorts, so to speak lol
    Everyone, be as healthy and happy as you can be, and again, I hope it's a better or even a fantastic year for all of us struggling, despite the odds

  • @nerdoftheatre
    @nerdoftheatre Před 6 měsíci +2

    9:13 "The separation of church and state isn't constitutional, it's in a letter. Therefore it doesn't apply." Isn't the bible a collection of letters written to specific people regarding topics? Like? Shouldn't people who follow the bible be all for following guidelines set by someone in a letter? Since that's what the bible contains?

  • @robind.phillips2129
    @robind.phillips2129 Před 6 měsíci +1

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Happy New Year guys. Thanks for making me laugh and thanks for sharing.

  • @RainbowFlowerCrow
    @RainbowFlowerCrow Před 5 měsíci

    Wait, there's a Canadian pledge of allegiance?! I didn't know that, and I've lived here for 35 years! 🇨🇦

  • @NocturnalMissSo
    @NocturnalMissSo Před 6 měsíci

    Happy New Year, gents. 💗

  • @James-wv3hx
    @James-wv3hx Před 6 měsíci

    Former Catholic Priest Alan Watts claimes that Everybody and EVERYTHING IS God in his lecture - On Being God. And - What is Reality? And - They Made it All Up! Happy New Year 🎊.

  • @alexandercandicedad1355
    @alexandercandicedad1355 Před 5 měsíci

    As someone else with an aunt Chery, i am firmly against Chery law!

  • @curiouslittlefrog
    @curiouslittlefrog Před 6 měsíci +3

    How do we send you mini art to hang on the art wall?! Is that allowed?

    • @BeliefItOrNot
      @BeliefItOrNot  Před 6 měsíci +3

      I don’t have a PO Box set up yet but I’ll get on it

    • @curiouslittlefrog
      @curiouslittlefrog Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@BeliefItOrNot yay! Can’t wait to share, even if it doesn’t end up on the wall I just want to send a gift!

  • @Beroean30
    @Beroean30 Před 3 měsíci

    We pledge ourselves by the help of God; to be true and loyal citizens are Canada.
    To do our best, throughout our lifetime. And to bring honor to our flag.

  • @BluStarGalaxy
    @BluStarGalaxy Před 6 měsíci +2

    I disagree with Joe Biden on quite a few things but I wouldn't say he is a piece of "you know what." Hope you guys have a good New Years.

    • @tomhomunculus
      @tomhomunculus Před 5 měsíci

      War crimes usually qualify you for the title "peice of shit". So does knowingly selling weapons to people who are killing innocent people.

  • @PuppyLuver256
    @PuppyLuver256 Před 6 měsíci +3

    G-Force was about GUINEA PIGS, not gerbils!! ;o;

  • @daviddziuk-uz8ps
    @daviddziuk-uz8ps Před 5 měsíci

    Speaking of Bill Clinton I was a Democrat until I heard him give a speech suggesting that the government should have a backdoor access into our computers so we can be checked out if they saw fit.

  • @Dessikka
    @Dessikka Před 5 měsíci

    If they run out of wafers they can bless whatever they've got lying around that feels sufficiently bread- like. I watched a priest bless a jug of Kool Ade and a loaf of Wonder Bread at a protest March in a Lenten video once. Ofc, that was an Episcopal priest so maybe catholics have different rules? My mom's a minister and I once asked her if there were vampires, could she bless the kitchen tap so I could use that spray nozzle as a holy weapon and she said, "let's cross that bridge when we come to it." So fingers 🤞

  • @rickc2102
    @rickc2102 Před 6 měsíci +1

    But what if Elton John pulled out a tiny piano AND a tiny dancer?

  • @kendalllouviere210
    @kendalllouviere210 Před 6 měsíci

    I graduated from that high school that had that girl stripped of all of her stuff and I’m pretty sure she still hasn’t gotten everything back scholarship wise.

  • @Dayglodaydreams
    @Dayglodaydreams Před 6 měsíci +1

    What do you say to people who say "Jesus Christ was the original Social Justice Warrior"?

    • @presentfuture7563
      @presentfuture7563 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I don't argue with them, because they're figuring out that evangelicalism is morally bankrupt.

  • @davidsteer1941
    @davidsteer1941 Před 5 měsíci

    I was on holiday in Jamaica many years ago, and my youngest son was still at the age where he believed in Santa Claus. Well, on Christmas Day, Santa, duly arrived in his horse drawn carriage, and George did not bat an eyelid! he jumped up onto the carriage, received his present and went away, delighted. I think he realised that centre was Medrick, and would blend in wherever he was!

  • @Pavkah
    @Pavkah Před 6 měsíci

    16:18 that part

  • @randyscott1940
    @randyscott1940 Před 4 měsíci

    i read a book The Man Who Jesus Loved is about Jesus being gay and the verses around Jesus hanging around a naked man and some man at the table had a man lying in Jesus's lap

  • @MichaelYoder1961
    @MichaelYoder1961 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Happy New Year, you two reprobates!

  • @ennuiblue4295
    @ennuiblue4295 Před 6 měsíci +1

    You could make YT shorts to thank Patreons, I always like the wacky scenarios you invent

  • @Beroean30
    @Beroean30 Před 3 měsíci

    Medieval Catholicism did believe that if you didnt take communion you are going to Hell. Thus the whole meaning of excommunication. It means to not be allowed to take communion. I suspect that belief has not change but less talked about now because people are less superstitious and more defiant to threats.

  • @1Whipperin
    @1Whipperin Před 6 měsíci

    Yea

  • @henryholden4052
    @henryholden4052 Před 6 měsíci

    To the Reagan PR team: both my mom and sister STILL hold warm fuzzy feeling towards that bastard 🤦🏻‍♂️ he really had the best PR team 🤢🤮

  • @BuildHerGender
    @BuildHerGender Před 6 měsíci

    I did a video about John Hage’s fetishism of the Jewish people
    Also thank you for your trans sermon episode. I am sorry it hurt so much

  • @tdsollog
    @tdsollog Před 6 měsíci

    That Wisecrack video was great.
    Kissinger was a terrible person.

  • @CoyTheobalt
    @CoyTheobalt Před 6 měsíci

    It's rare you find a podcast that would actually be better with only one host.

  • @CoyTheobalt
    @CoyTheobalt Před 6 měsíci

    I doubt Damien is ever busy doing anything. He's totally that guy who thinks he's presenting some new joke or take on things. When we've all heard his joke at least 5 years ago. Does he realize he says "like" every third word?

    • @biosinger
      @biosinger Před 6 měsíci +3

      In the New Year, try to be less of a critic. It’s not helpful and it just makes YOU look bad.

    • @CoyTheobalt
      @CoyTheobalt Před 6 měsíci

      @biosinger I'm not concerned with how random strangers perceive me on the internet, which must be what Damien feels as well, I feel bad for Trevor always coming in prepared and studied up with long form commentary and a very in depth analysis of the situation, and then Damien pops over 3 min before taping and is like .....uh.....what are we talking about?

    • @nocontextwhatever
      @nocontextwhatever Před 6 měsíci +2

      Who hurt you?

    • @CoyTheobalt
      @CoyTheobalt Před 6 měsíci

      @nocontextwhatever freeloading project and business partners that leaned heavily upon my hardworking causing burn out in the end .

    • @biosinger
      @biosinger Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@CoyTheobalt this podcast format, where one host is fully researched and the other is there simply to react and banter with them is commonly used. Ever watch Neil deGrasse Tyson on Star talk? Do you think his co-host Chuck Nice is responsible for any role other than to respond to Neil? Damien is Trevor’s Chuck Nice. We could all benefit from some more “nice” in the New Year. Caring about all people, whether they are random strangers or not is one way to work on that.

  • @VGKFAN37
    @VGKFAN37 Před 5 měsíci

    John 3:16
    New International Version For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. Look up the shroud of Turin. It's impossible to remake and the closest they ever got to debunking it. They took a sample from the wrong piece of the cloth

    • @BeliefItOrNot
      @BeliefItOrNot  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Lol

    • @BeliefItOrNot
      @BeliefItOrNot  Před 5 měsíci +1

      It’s just that the shroud of turin was identified as a forgery immediately after it’s discovery and has been shown over and over again to be a forgery. No serious person believes it to be authentic. Watch my video on the evidence for the resurrection.