@@AUGUSTALLEN28 this is something none can answer. Because it’s not biblical to be against tongues. Speaking in tongues was a vital part of the churches life if we read Acts and 1 Corinthians 14, Roman 8 and Jude correctly. Speaking in tongues was important but it wasn’t the main thing.
The Bible is very clear! Do I beleive in speaking in tounges?! Yes if its done how scripture requires and explains it. But when I go to a Church or see a preacher who tries to "Teach" you how to speak in tounges, it's Crazy!! I Corinthians 12:11, Only the holy spirit decides... I really doubt he chooses foolishly. Just a footnote.
Corey: I want to clarify my statement. Regarding Paul bragging about speaking in tongues. I over empathized Paul’s statement in order to make my argument but I digress, here is more balanced view to my question, which was is Paul bragging about speaking in tongue’s: “In 1 Corinthians 14:18, the apostle Paul wrote, "I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you." It is important to understand the context of this statement to determine whether or not Paul was bragging about speaking in tongues. In the preceding verses, Paul emphasizes the importance of using spiritual gifts, including the gift of speaking in tongues, in a way that benefits the entire Christian community. He encourages the Corinthians to use their gifts in an orderly and edifying manner, rather than seeking to draw attention to themselves. When Paul says that he speaks in tongues more than all of the Corinthians, he is not necessarily bragging or boasting about his own spirituality or superiority. Instead, he is using his own experience to encourage the Corinthians to use their gifts in a way that benefits others. Furthermore, it is important to note that Paul's emphasis in 1 Corinthians 14 is not on speaking in tongues itself, but on the need for all spiritual gifts to be used in a way that builds up the community. In verse 19, Paul states that he would rather speak five intelligible words than ten thousand words in a tongue, emphasizing the importance of speaking in a way that can be understood by others. Therefore, while Paul does acknowledge that he speaks in tongues more than the Corinthians, he does not appear to be bragging or boasting about it. Rather, he is using his experience to encourage the Corinthians to use their gifts in a way that benefits the community as a whole.” (ChatGPT).
Yes. Paul made that statement, that he speaks in tongues more than anyone, to clarify that he wasn't against speaking in tongues after exhorting the church not to speak in tongues in church unless the tongue is interpreted.
@@robertcain3426 exactly! Which solidifies the idea that you can and should speak in tongues privately because this is what Paul did. Unfortunately, Corey seems to be confounded that the opposite of in the church would be tongues in private.
When I was a kid there were people who claimed they were healed at Michael Jackson concerts. This is what hysteria and histrionics does to a human. So people who are emotional junkies and use their own experience to dictate their truth will not endure sound doctrine. They’re given to mania and euphoria but God is a god of order. So I am always skeptical of people who overly emphasize feelings. People who are navigated by their emotions are subject to do anything and feel justified. They’ll say things like “The spirit told me this or that”…Mike Todd for instance does that very thing.
Dr. Brown does a great job at debating tongues with sort of like this childlike / innocent understanding… but it’s really hard not to think that he is acting because of the biblical knowledge that we know he possesses. I was hoping that Corey told him that his babababa is exactly what is coming out of the mouths of those who profess to speak tongues. Dr. Brown said bababa is nothing… And that’s exactly Corey’s point! 🤷🏽🤷🏽🤷🏽
I try not to label myself either a Calvinist, Charismatic, Catholic. I lost the peace of GOD and Assurance of Salvation, after a tongues ( gibberish ) experience many years ago. What puzzles me I how can a Believer in Christ Rejoice if they believe they can subsequently loose Salvation after the New Birth of Faith in Christ for Salvation. Luke 10:20, Rom 4:5, Eph 1:13, 1 Cor 15 ) Most Charismatic, despite their great boast in the miraculous manifestations deny this simple precious truth.
@@sisterbecky411 John 10:27-28 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. so how do you deal with him saying his sheep know his voice and he knows them and no one can ever snatch them out of his hand Is it a case of sheep who listen to my voice and if they don't fall away know my voice, and I know them but if they don't I never knew you If he never knew them which we know he'll say on judgement day to false prophets and people who think they're saved in Matthew 7, were they ever sheep in the first place? I'd say no, if you are truly born again and his sheep you may stray but will get there in the end guided by the Shepard's voice hence no one will ever snatch you out of his hand If you believe you were born again but fall and don't come back, it brings into question were you really a sheep did you really know his voice? Imo you still have a choice in all of this I just see it as God's omniscience on show all those who choose him he knows before they were made while still giving the chance for all who will reject him a chance to choose him.
@@sisterbecky411 GOD Promises that all who Trust Christ for Eternal Salvation are Sealed by the HOLY SPIRIT unto the Day of Salvation ( EPH 1:13 ) , Charismatics who in their zeal, fail to rightly divide the scripture and receive a 'different spirit.' 2 Corinthians 11:4, and legalistic, condemning spirit, opposite of the True Spirit of Adoption (Romans 8:15) and Eternal Security which All receive the moment of Salvation. Believers who seek this 'Stange fire' of Charismatic tongues, subsequent to their True Salvation, and other mystical experiences invite this 'different spirit' which vexes their lives from thence on. As far as the sins of the flesh, God Chastises BUT Not Condemns wayward ( & lets be honest, no believer is without sins, even after conversion 1 John 1:9 ) believers. "But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world"1 Corinthians 11:32 Most Charismatics that I've talked with, seem to have a self-righteous faith plus works mentality, and thus twist scripture to justify their view
For Paul to address the church in Corinth only, about tongues, means there was an issue with how they were using it, or doing it. It seemed the church in Corinth was filled with many previous gentile unbelievers. Many unbelievers wants “spiritual” experiences. Ghost hunting etc. So Paul had to deal with the newly converted believers about what spiritual gifts are supposed to do for the body of Christ & we all are gifted differently. So l agree with Corey on this one. 👍👌
Interesting how this view isn’t supported in the text though. Especially because in Acts gentiles we’re filled with the Spirit and they had a spiritual experience. Does that mean Luke was wrong in referring to these events as good things that came from God? I mean since you think seeking an encounter with God is the equivalent of ghost hunting and many other wicked things.
There was a time in my life where I was speaking a little Tagalog , the language of the PI and I thought that I was using the language correctly. Years later I heard from a Philippine brother that I was talking the Lords name in vain! Oh the conviction that came over me that caused my heart to cry out to God and apologize for what I had done.
@@righteousrebelmedia5934 it's a pretty evident in the rest of the chapter that Paul is explaining the purpose of tongues and it's use. He even explains later in verse 27 of the same chapter how it should be done correctly. All you have to do is keep reading while knowing that the letter is one of correction for the Corinthians.
That was a great debate. My pops has always been able to speak in tongues but he usually would only do this when he was praying to himself. I've never been able to speak in tongues but everybody seen to nowadays .. But yeah I agree with Dr Brown was saying . This may have been the first debate I saw on Corey's channel where Corey was the student and Dr Brown was the teacher. I still liked it though..
@@sisterbecky411 you may be right.. I mean we are Christians sometimes have to sometimes accept the fact that we don't always know everything all the time..
@@sisterbecky411🤦 That verse has nothing to do with asking God for the phony Pentecostal/Charismatic imitation of the 1st Century gift of languages. Asking God for Charismatic "tongues" is asking God for a stone rather than bread.
I truly understand the scriptures, Bro Corey brings light in the subject of tongues, but I believe tongues is a gift! it fell on me in my home as I was praying, it was never taught it was never mimicked and I don't speak it publicly, and when I speak I truly feel the presence of God! it's my personal worship!! God bless!! 🙏
Do a part 2 on questions. Text that I sent to a friend about this discussion before listening to the whole discussion Just listening to it, I have experienced that those who are adamant about speaking in tongues are going to get impatient when you disagree with them. And if push come to shove they are going to say "Why are you not asking for it", "Until you experience it, you will understand" 😳🤔 I'm just 25 minutes in..I wonder if the question will be asked specifically. 1) If we agree that what the apostles spoke in Acts was actually a human language, when and why did it switch to "angelic" language? 2) If it is an "angelic" language where in scripture does it say the gift of tongues would be understood to be an angelic language also if the only context of understanding the gift of tongues would be in Acts? 3) If it is to be understood that this gift of tongues could be both , does anywhere in scripture it reveals when any Angel spoke to a human it was this "angelic" language or if the angels spoke to each other does the Bible describe their speaking to each other as unknown to the human, but revealed by God? 4) If the praying in tongues is an angelic language is this only received through "Baptism of the Holy Spirit". And does one have to ask God for this Baptism or is it given freely by God? 5) If you are saying praying in the spirit is praying in tongues, would you agree that any Christian who has not prayed in tongues can only pray in their mind? 6) If these Christians can only pray with/in their mind, do you believe there relationship/communication with God is hindered in some way as compared to a Christian who prays in tongues? 6) So does that mean that any Christian who does not speak in tongues is NOT filled with the Holy Spirit. So can you be a Christian and not be filled with the Holy Spirit?
That was a very good conversation with the scholar Dr. Brown, thanks for posting. Brotha Corey you certainly represented yourself & your position very well!
Corey's mic drop statement, if the scriptures say not everyone speaks in tongues, then how can there be people saying the Bible commands Christians to speak in tongues to edify themselves? That would mean some Christians are deprived of being able to edify themselves.
Corey you are correct in your teaching. It’s easier for “Christians” to speak in a tongue instead of doing the hard work of reading their bible correctly and rightly dividing the truth of the Word. By speaking this tongue and not tongues are you winning souls to Christ ? which is our great commission from Jesus. We can speak in heavenly languages when we actually get to heaven …if that is what God wills . But right now souls need to be saved and they need to understand that in their own language and not private languages.
@Christopher Hayes Praise God for your ministry of outreach and evangelism ! The gift of tongues was actual languages is established in Acts 2:1-13 affirmed in this text by Paul’s calling it “of men”-clearly a reference to human language. This was the gift which the Corinthians prized so highly, abused so greatly, and counterfeited so disastrously. God gave the ability to speak in a language not known to the speaker, as a sign with limited function because tongues was a sign for unbelievers not believers..”tongues … of angels”was Apostle Paul writing in general hypothetical terms. There is no biblical teaching of any special angelic language that people could learn to speak related to increasing your desire to read the Bible.The Holy Spirit is the One who increases your desire to read the Bible. Can you show me the texts or texts in the Bible that refer to tongues increasing your desire to read the Bible? Thank you .
@Christopher Hayes I’m not using my interpretation I’m going by what scripture says and I’m not condemning you are anyone who claims to speak in tongues. I’m just saying be careful with the Word of God and use Scripture to interpret Scripture. I believe you received a prophetic word from God to inspire you to start your ministry and call to seminary. I pray you have a blessed journey that is guided by God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Peace to you
Your question makes no sense. When a Christian is praying and reading the scriptures and is edifying themselves through songs and praises to God, are they winning souls to Christ at that moment? The gift of tongues is meant to edify the believer not win souls to Christ. In fact the gift of the Spirit is to build up the Church as a whole and as individuals; not just to win souls for Christ.
We can’t just take the greek words and then see something interpreted literally word for word and then take those different words and mash them together into what you want it to say. Think of what Paul would ACTUALLY BE SAYING! Corey does a great job of this. A literal full context meaning.
ChatGPT perspective: Q: What are Dr. Michael Brown’s positions on speaking in tongue’s? A: “Dr. Michael Brown is a Christian theologian and author who has written extensively on the topic of speaking in tongues. He holds to a charismatic or Pentecostal perspective on the gifts of the Holy Spirit, which includes speaking in tongues as one of those gifts. However, Dr. Brown is known for taking a nuanced and balanced approach to the topic. He affirms the biblical basis for speaking in tongues and believes that it is a legitimate spiritual gift that can be used to edify both the individual and the church. At the same time, he also acknowledges that there are excesses and abuses in the practice of speaking in tongues, and that it is important to exercise discernment and order in its use. Dr. Brown has also been critical of some of the extreme teachings and practices that have emerged within the charismatic movement, such as the belief that speaking in tongues is a necessary evidence of being filled with the Holy Spirit or that it is a means of achieving a higher level of spirituality. He has emphasized the importance of balancing the experience of the Holy Spirit with biblical teaching and the fruit of the Spirit, and has urged believers to pursue love, humility, and unity in their use of spiritual gifts, including speaking in tongues.”
When believers have spiritual experiences, such as the baptism with the Holy Ghost accompanied by tongues and prophecy, or they experience miracles, or dreams and visions divinely inspired, those unlearned choose to invalidate these in their own minds, and make accusations of exalting experience over the word of God. If your salvation is void of experiences noted in the holy scriptures, your need to seek God on an ongoing basis. If we have the Spirit of God, we need to stir up the gift. God inhabits the praises of his people. Praying is an experience, doing the works is an experience, giving the testimony of Jesus Christ is an experience. These are all spiritual activities. If we seek God faithfully, he shows us shows us things that we know not, even his strange acts noted in scriptures. We are a peculiar people, the temple of the living God. Jesus said, If you love me, my Father will love you, and we will make our abode with you, and manifest ourselves to you. God has manifested himself to me and in me, that is my experience, glory to God. If I denied it, I would be a liar, like unto so many others. Some of us have legitimate, authentic gifts of the Spirit, but some are charlatans who bring disgrace upon the church, causing the name of the Lord to be blasphemed. Seek the giver of the gifts, and they will be given, but that takes effort, work, and commitment, but it is easier to criticize. What men are not up on, they are down on. Grace and peace be multiplied through the knowledge of God and of Christ Jesus. Love is the greatest gift.
Dr Brown is correct and clearly Corey is so focused on the Greek he’s making it seem like our English translation is the problem , he has to use the Greek to make his view seem right . But when challenged by DR Brown he clearly was exposed especially with interpretation of the Word .
Why isn’t the singular form of “tongue” in 1 Corinthians 14 not used anywhere else in the Bible in the same way? The only other times, according to logos, is when it speaks of a physical tongue. The KJV distinguishes this singular “tongue” as an unknown “tongue”. “For he that speaketh in an 👉unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.” 1 Corinthians 14:2 KJV
@@ShepherdMinistry why are you asking me this question? If you are already convinced there’s no need for me to respond to you , I’m not Dr Brown ask him .
Brown was very knowledgeable and made good points but he was the one that made it “lively” would love to know why most and I mean most tongues speaking is done with no interpretation when it clearly says 2 or 3 at most and always with interpretation! It’s always a confusing, mass speaking in tongues when I have seen it. No interpretation!
32:00 Edifying and rebuke can go along if one holds to a correct view of Salvation ( Soteriology the study of doctrines of salvation ) . Its because one is Already Safe and Secure as their eternal Soul is concerned, there are consequences for sin and unfaithfulness, in This life, and Rewards ( not to be confused with Salvation itself) 1 Corinthians 3:13-15, 2John8 referring to the sin of tolerating false teaching ( Roman Catholism, Oneness Pentecostalism, JW, LDS , ) "Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward" I believe those who have embraced elements of Charismatic theology, have lost rewards ( not Salvation ) and have leavened their testimony in this life.
Loved the deep dive into scripture here. I wish Dr. BROWN could address all the plain scriptures, instead of just making assertions. I respect Dr. Brown but he did the same thing with the Hebrew Israelite he missed the opportunity to break down scriptures instead he made assertions/interpretations without really diving into the text. He can’t just assert he has to biblical walk us through all the texts
Wouldn't the gift of discernment/discerning of spirits be for self edification? Or what about the Word of wisdom or knowledge? Or the gift of faith? All of these could be used for self edification at times...of course that's clearly not the only way they are used or should be used as we should abound in edifying the body. So just because we shouldn't primarily use a gift for self edification doesn't mean we are unable to do so or that God wouldn't grant us the gift to do so at times. God could absolutely grant someone a gift of faith for their own edification and benefit.
Interesting thing about Corey is that he calls himself a, “biblical continuationist.” When you look at what he says it’s a little confusing. He says he believes the gifts should be operative today. My questions would be this: 1. How do believers cultivate a practice of spiritual gifts? 2. In what ways have you seen the gifts of the spirit moving through you to edify believers? If you can’t answer both of these questions in a clear, practical way, then you are what’s called a, “Functional cessationist.” Meaning that you say you “believe” in these things yet, you are not a practitioner. Which is super interesting considering that if you believe these things should be in your life, yet don’t see them, how much do you really believe? Aren’t you just a spectator even though scripture calls you to be an active ? My challenge to Corey would be that he takes a step back, study what the plain reading of scripture is, and then really pray and ask God to show him why he isn’t seeing the gifts operative in his life especially since he should because he believes they never ceased.
It’s simple…he just doesn’t believe it. So how in the world can he witness the gifts of the Spirit operating in his life. People like him are not willing to just allow the scriptures to speak to them and go with the flow by just accepting them and believing what they say. Instead they are motivated by their own doubt and unbelief. And because they don’t believe they have to create a false narrative to satisfy their unbelief. They are carnal minded Christians. For him to suggest that the gift of tongues was used to preach the gospel, that shows how desperate he is to twist the scriptures to justify his own doubtful carnal mind.
I am with Corey on this. We do not have to ask for the Holy Spirit because it is already given to every believer. Also, no spiritual gift is given for personal edification but for the benefit of all therefore we must interpret what Paul says in that context. Acts 1:8 speaks of the propagation of the gospel to peoples group and it is evident in Jerusalem, Judaea, Samaria and to the unreached peoples. Tongues are not for power. I disagree with the good Dr.
@@i.karlhood3825 the Holy Spirit is not a it, maybe you never meant to write that. We do have the Holy Spirit already , however there is a principle in the verse about asking for the Hily Spirit.
@@liberatingtruths777 let us not split hairs on this. I am well aware that the Holy Spirit is not an it. Let us look at the substance of what I said. Look at the context of the discourse and you will se that no one is told to ask for the Holy Spirit after Pentecost. Peter said that this promise is to ALL that the Lord calls. We are told to submit to the Spirit. Using experience as a hermeneutical method is severely flawed.
Tongues mean languages - we have all benefited from Paul's edification from speaking in tongues! Apostle Paul brought correction and balance - 1 Cor 14:39 - "Where, brethren, covet to prophesy, and DO NOT FORBID to speak in tongues." I have spoken in tongues for 31 one years. I have interpreted my tongues and others. This ability has been a blessing to me and many others. Just because you hear Muslims praying in their own language, that doesn't invalidate speaking in tongues. My whole church speaks in tongues, and all of our tongues sound different. We clearly understand the difference between speaking in tongues for edification and giving a message in tongues (which requires an interpreter). Tongues and interpretation are equivalent to prophesy. There are many things you don't see step by step in the Bible that we do in churches, but they don't 21:35 violate biblical principles. Is an altar call in the bible? Is sending in your offering via cash app in the bible? You get my point? Don't despise speaking in tongues. You risk missing the many benefits others have gained around the world. My interpretation of tongues has led to family members being healed of stage 4 cancer, miraculous provisions and supernatural directions, to name a few. Please don't live beneath your privilege.
Language or tounges as you call it is a know language. When I ask people who speak in tounges what they said the answer was I don't know. That's not a gift.
Hey there brother, I believe you may have misunderstood what he was trying to explain; in Act 2. The “gift” of interpretation is not the same as the gift of interpretation as mentioned in I Corinthians 12 & 14. Let’s take a plain view-plain reading approach to the text. The question is? is the indwelling of Spirit of the God and the operation of the gift of interpretation demonstrated when Peter stood up and testified as the experience that just happened? I heard you mention ( adamantly) about the interpretation, the point he raises is that there was no evangelizing taken place.
Hey servant I hope you doing good.Just want it to add next time you really like to have a debate or discussion on this matter you should ask or read about this pastor in Brazil his name is Augustus Nicodemus Gomes Lopes. Peace and grace
One question would be is , Why would we need to speak mysteries to God when the Holy Spirit is already praying for us ? Also Paul starts off 1st Cor . 14 saying to earnestly desire prophesy . He could have easily said to desire tongues . Tongues is not a gift to edify the body it is a sign gift to unbelievers . We build ourselves up by reading the word not praying unknown languages . The whole context of 1st cor . is rebuke because they were doing things that caused division
I think the simplest way of understanding the use of unknown tongues is to know about the author who wrote 1 Corinthians which we know it is Paul. If Paul said he spoke in tongues and spoke mysteries whether privately or publicly he received the revelation and used to edify the body. But those who speak in tongues now claim that they speak mysteries. If so do they really receive revelation for themselves or for others? Absolutely no. Can those tongues speakers show they are differences in their attitude and actions? Absolutely no. The purpose of Paul’s message is to have unity by edifying each other not to have division by calming speaking tongues gets closer to God. What a foolishness to say that God allows only very few people to speak angelic or heavenly languages to speak mysteries to God.
Dr Brown is absolutely correct. Corey is not reading the text as it is but as he wants it to be according to his unbelief. He is creating his own narrative. Acts does not in any way show the disciples evangelizing the world through tongues. That is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. When the people initially heard them speak, those who understood heard them praising God. They were not preaching the gospel. It amazes me how someone can read the scriptures yet ignore what it is actually saying and then create a false narrative. As someone that also has the gift of tongues, I don’t care what Corey or any other Christian has to say. Their opinion based on ignorance means absolutely nothing to me. The only thing that matters is exactly what the scriptures says and my person testimony which is aligned with the scriptures.
So you are saying that because it's wrong to edify yourself too much, that you should never edify yourself? That's the logic here as to why we shouldn't pray to God in tongues is because it's self edifying right? Again I say this - all Christians are called to self edifying - we are supposed to strengthen our faith and knowledge through the word of God. Anytime I read my Bible I am edifying myself. But then if I keep that to myself and don't use that increase to help others, that's when it becomes wrong. This was the problem in Corinth - they were ONLY using the gifts for self edification and not for the whole body. I just don't understand why we can't see the balance here. Don't look at the crazy charismatics in one ditch and then get so afraid that you jump into the ditch on the other side of the road.
When I was a kid growing up in a Apostolic Charismatic Denomination the elders and mothers of the church would tell us that we were going straight to Hell because we couldn't speak in tongues on command. As a child I was smart enough to know that looking demon possessed while speaking gibberish had nothing to do with THE MOST HIGH. Being a 34 adult man with some knowledge of the scriptures, nobody can convince me that this babbling gibberish honors TMH in anyway. I`m so glad we got people like Corey exposing this nonsense for what it is and people who are defending this need to understand that your feelings don't supersede biblical authority.
I think Dr Brown is being inconsistent he asked where does it say that and when the table was turned he says i think this is what it say the only way that all scripture can be reconciled is with Corey's view and i didn't get this view by Corey i had it long before i listened to him
Dr. Brown associates “you will receive power” with tongues when in reality “you will receive power” means when the Holy Spirit comes in to abide in and over you. The gift of Tongues isn’t the “power” or for “power”… The gift of tongues and every other gift is a product of the “power of the Holy Spirit / God”. In Pentecostal doctrine. The Gifts of the Spirit are exalted where only God should be exalted. And if they deny this then go to a Pentecostal service and notice how they worship and clamor at the alter of “The Gifts”. The entire service is God fill me up! Pour out your gifts! Give me, give me, give me… How is clamoring for the gifts actually lifting up the name of Jesus? How can clamoring and begging for the gifts be considered true worship? The truth is in a Pentecostal service there is 5% of true worship unto God and 95% of clamoring for God’s gift over their lives… which means they are exalting themselves higher than they exalt God. 🤔🤔🤔
1 Corinthians 12:15-16 (ESV): 15 If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” that would not make it any less a part of the body. 16 And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” that would not make it any less a part of the body. When you say that because gifts are for edifying the body, you cannot possibly edify yourself in any way whatsoever by using the gift, you are saying that you are not part of the body. Teaching should edify you as you study, and explaining things to others helps you understand them better yourself. Healing builds up the faith of the one God uses in the gift of healing. Similar with prophecy, words of wisdom and knowledge, etc. So of course tongues can also edify yourself. Christianity is not an ascetic religion. Putting others' needs before your own is not the same as denying yourself of all of your needs and the good pleasures of life that God created for us. Why do you ever eat food if you are only ever commanded to build up others and never yourself? Couldn't someone else use that food instead? I agree we have a big pride problem in America, and some big Charismatic names are prime examples of that problem. But that's not an excuse to despise the works of the Spirit. We need to judge and discern every spirit to see whether it is from God, not just say it must not be from God if it benefits me at all. Your whole argument is that the direct issue Paul is dealing with is an abuse of tongues, so everything he says about it in the passage must be negative. This is an incredibly unbalanced reading, and I assert that Paul was being far more careful than you want him to be. He made sure to include phrases like, "I want you all to speak in tongues," and, "I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you," so as to not swing the pendulum all the way back the opposite way. He's arguing for balance, moderation, and the right mindset with which to use the gift. He's not saying, "You're abusing tongues, so stop speaking in tongues except in extremely rare circumstances." He's saying that *specifically in church,* they should be careful to not over-use tongues, not talk over each other, and should make sure an interpreter is present. He qualifies the statement, "I'd rather speak 5 words with my mind than 10,000 in a tongue," with the condition, "in church." Thus his immediately preceding statement, "I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you," must be *in private.* It cannot be in the mission field because he specifically says that unbelievers and outsiders will say they are out of their minds if they speak in tongues!
Bingo! This right here. His entire tongues systematic hinges on this idea that Corinth was speaking gibberish tongues and that Paul was using sarcasm (how could he be sure of this)....and it is completely clouding his understanding of the chapter. If for just a moment he would even pretend he believed the Corinthians had the real gift of Tongues in operation, it would all have so much more balance and he wouldn't need all the mental gymnastics.
He said that unbelievers would think you are out of your minds because the Corinthians used to be pagan and would just speak in tongues uncontrollably in their pagan religion. This doesnt disprove that tongues had a purpose like I've seen people try to argue here. Paul doesnt seem to be commanding tongues in Corinthians, rather he seemed to be reigning them in.
@@beaberean3286 if the Corinthian tongues was given by the Holy Spirit, would the Holy Spirit just cause total chaos in the church? Legitimate question. Real tongues would only be brought on by the holy spirit and not the believer himself. One of the fruits of the spirit is self control. Wasnt Paul straight pointing to this is the Corinthian church? Weve seen a reflection of this in the american church where people use corthinthians then ignore these passages. Sorry but you still have to cherry pick scripture to avoid the fact that they could have reverted back to their pagan behavior
@@Taushathetech hello! I understand what you are saying, but Paul actually gives indication that when the gift of tongues is given by the Spirit, it is still subject to the person. Vs 32 - the spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet. So it's not as if God overtakes you and forces you to speak or to stop. It is still up to us to practice the fruit of the Spirit when we use the gifts. Also, Paul never tells them to stop what they are doing or forbids it, instead he adds nuance - in the church pray for interpretation of that their be an interpreter. If the tongues were gibberish then he could not and would not give this kind of instruction. Instead he saysbin vs 28 - if there be no interpreter, hold your peace (don't speak out loud for all to hear) AND speak to yourself and to God - again reverting back to the pmtongues use he spoke of in the opening between you and God alone. So many times people say if there is no interpreter, then don't use tongues, but that's clearly not what Paul says in vs ,28 - silence = hold your peace and then he actually says to keep on speaking. So again, just because there is no interpreter doesn't mean it's gibberish either. Hope you consider what I've said - because if they did revert back to pagan tongues, Paul wouldn't have encouraged them to keep going with it.
If the tongues in Corinth were gibberish, Paul wouldn't have said this: 1 Corinthians 14:12-13 Even so you, since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the church that you seek to excel. Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. He is telling those who currently speak in tongues to have it be interpreted...but if it was gibberish, this would be impossible. This shows that the type of tongues weren't wrong or false, they were just being used wrongly.
It means praying by the will of the spirit as he leads not tongues romans 8 is not speaking about tongues because it says "groaning to deep for words" groanings are not words and to deep for words means no words are uttered,the best example of praying in the spirit is in the psalms it says "David speaking in the spirit says the lord said to my lord"
Well according to 1 cor 14 - praying in the spirit is not done with your own understanding and other don't understand it either....which is why we also have the gift of interpretion. 1 Corinthians 14:13-16 Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding. Otherwise, if you bless with the spirit, how will he who occupies the place of the uninformed say "Amen" at your giving of thanks, since he does not understand what you say?
@@Taushathetech so you do you care to explain? Because Paul clearly says if you bless with the spirit the other does not understand - ie: a different language. Therefore Paul is Clearly talking about diversities of tongues here and is showing why we need to use speech with understanding in the church. I agree, the Corinthians were using the gift of tongues selfishly, but it was still the real gift, it wasn't gibberish..
Corey you are making sense...You kept saying sometimes it was real and other times it wasn't...WHAT??? IF SPEAKING IN TOUNGES AS WE DO IT TODAY IS NOT A LANGUAGE, THEN IT IS NOT REAL!!!...What are you saying???
You got worked over. Not that you were wrong, but you allowed several things to take place that didn't give you the W: You let Brown dictate the time. You let him cut you off. You let him appeal to emotion (fallacy). You let him appeal to authority (fallacy). You let him get all his points in and conceded arguments without counters. It didn't feel productive, but it happened.
Dr. Brown cuts everyone off. My theory is he is not totally secure in believing his own position which is why he does that. It's very difficult to watch people debate him cuz no one tells him to stop
That fact remains that Dr. Brown was biblically correct but Corey wasn’t. He did not appeal to “emotions” he actually appealed to the scriptures themselves. So your accusation is false.
Experience means nothing compared to sound doctrine I do not care what my experience is if 2+2=4 my experience can not make it come up to something different.
@@smartsimplefit Of course, I agree. Though I was merely pointing out that salvation is experiential. John 16:8, the Holy Spirit is sent to convict of sin. This is experiential.
@@robertcain3426 And thank God for the ministry of His Holy Spirit! It would be a horrible fate though to be one who has tasted the spirit and have fallen away (Hebrews 6:4-6). I fear many people alive today are in this boat :(
I just don't understand how you say that praying in the Spirit (1 cor 14 only) isn't equated to praying in tongues. It's so clear but it's like you don't want to see it. 1 Corinthians 14:14-15 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is the conclusion then? *I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding.* (These are opposed - meaning Spirit prayer is without natural understanding in this context)...
Reading all these comments from people who read that particular chapter incorrectly is disturbing. Corey adds more context than is mentioned, and everyone else here in the comment section that do not possess the gift just follow him blindly. This seriously grieves the Holy Spirit. I feel it in my own spirit when I read them.
Corey you are my brother. And, I agree the scriptures teach tongues is languages. Just like you believe. Brother you lost the debate. Your presentation was weak. Dr Brown presentation was much stronger. I encourage you to take tips for Dr James White.
Tongues are for private edification. Tongue talking in church is not profitable because it is not useful to others because it isn’t interpreted. In private, it is communication with God and edification to the believer.
Here’s my question. What would be the difference you are making for the kingdom by “speaking in tongues”. What are you accomplishing by speaking in this “heavenly language” vs praying in english? Also what is the difference between me faking it and speaking gibberish while God reads my inner thoughts and you speaking in tongues? I have never seen what this profits. Seriously explain to me the difference between real and fake and what it profits the kingdom more.
Jesus Aleph Tav of Aleph Bet(alphabet) 22 Hebrew letters. Bible 66 Books Trinity 22+22+22=66 DNA 22 autosomes DNA two helix united by autosomes RNA walks on water to get to other side/helix Jesus walked on water Holy Spirit hovered above the waters In Genesis 28 God's "tower" to heaven in Jacob's ladder where the angels were going up and down on it is mixed sounds of new languages in consequence to Babel. In John 1:51 Jesus is saying it was Him (Aleph Tav) on top Jacob's ladder. Tongues of angels has to do with their role at Tower of Babel and languages to people unto salvation. A sign of judgement to the Jews (Isaiah 28, 1 Corinthians 14). Angels were also present at the giving of the law on mt. Sinai in Exodus. Israel came out with a mixed multitude, non israelites. So there's a narrative that tongues of angels has to do with sound. In this respect, it's into languages to people. John 1:51 And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man. Tongues is meant to communicate His Word to non Hebrews. Hope this helps somebody
It can't be gibberish or Paul wouldn't tell those who speak in tongues to pray that they'd interpret it: 1 Corinthians 14:13 Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret.
I was in the pentecostal movement for decades. I NEVER heard someone speaking in tongues being real languages. It ALWAYS was gibberish. I am out of pentecostalism now and will never return.
For decades I asked people who speak in tounges what they said, the answer was I don't know. That's not a gift, you may be cursing. Every spirit in church is not the Holy Spirit.
Important distinctions must be made… Q: What are examples of counterfeit speaking in tongue’s? A: Speaking in tongues, also known as glossolalia, is a phenomenon where a person speaks in a language they do not know or understand. While it is a legitimate practice in some religious traditions, there are also instances where people may feign or counterfeit speaking in tongues. Here are some examples: 1. Babbling: Some people may simply babble incoherently, making random sounds or syllables without any discernible structure or meaning. 2. Mimicking: Others may mimic the sounds and patterns of actual languages, without actually speaking any known language. 3. Emotional manipulation: Some individuals may use speaking in tongues as a means of emotional manipulation, attempting to control or influence others by speaking in a way that is intended to appear spiritual or mystical. 4. Attention-seeking: Some people may use speaking in tongues as a way to draw attention to themselves, either for personal gain or as a means of satisfying their own ego. 5. Deception: In some cases, individuals may claim to be speaking in tongues in order to deceive others or to advance their own agenda. It's important to note that just because someone's speaking in tongues may seem inauthentic or counterfeit, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are doing so deliberately. There are many reasons why someone may speak in tongues that don't necessarily involve deception or ill intent.” (ChatGPT)
Corey is brushing away anything that contradicts his false views and he is not interpreting the scriptures correctly. He also claims the Gentiles were only given the gift of tongues just to show the Jews they also have the Holy Spirit. But once they had the gift of tongues what does Corey think they did with it??? Does he think they went around speaking in tongues to evangelize people in their own community that already spoke their language?? Absolutely ridiculous. He has no basis…ZERO to claim tongues was ever used to preach the gospel.
Speaking in tongues is a gift of the spirit and it indicates the spirit is within you… Marcus is not a false teacher like this guy portrays him, read the word of God to know the truth. Just like Paul, he was a man of revelation speaking in tongues enables you to connect and see in the spirit and be filled by the spirit
@@DefenderoftheCross lol what ? Soo please tell me where do you disagree, have you read in the book of Conrithians. You are the one who is lost and judging your fellow believer like Marcus. What he said was right only by speaking in tongues is an indication your filled with the Holy Ghost not another way around
@isaacmwita2582 1. We are to judge those in the Church. 1 Corinthians 5:12. 2. Marcus Rogers is not in the Church he is a heretic who denies the Trinity and the deity of Jesus. 3. Marcus Rogers is also a blasphemous false prophet who thinks the Holy Spirit told him to stick his head in a trash can.
@Christopher Hayes exactly it’d because he listens to channels like this and the host of this channel denies the concept of speaking in tongues but I told him to read the 1sh and second book of Conrithians to know the truth about speaking in tongues, tongues is more than a dialog with God but it’s language of Angels …but he will deny this fact too I bet hahah
No is NOT, stop repeating muslim propaganda and listen to arab speaking christian like Christan prince prince or Abdul ex muslim Or Hatum.. Please stop this nonsense ✌️✋
The issue to me with tongues is that no one seems to challenge if it’s authentic or not. So to promote it as an essential gift gives me great pause.
Because it’s not essential. I pause too.
@@Meggerz207 It was essential to the early church why isn't now?
@@AUGUSTALLEN28 this is something none can answer. Because it’s not biblical to be against tongues. Speaking in tongues was a vital part of the churches life if we read Acts and 1 Corinthians 14, Roman 8 and Jude correctly.
Speaking in tongues was important but it wasn’t the main thing.
@@travisrosenthal398 You say it's not biblical,but yet you quote from the bible of it's importance. Make that make sense.
@@AUGUSTALLEN28 I was talking about the stance against speaking in tongues.
The Bible is very clear! Do I beleive in speaking in tounges?! Yes if its done how scripture requires and explains it. But when I go to a Church or see a preacher who tries to "Teach" you how to speak in tounges, it's Crazy!! I Corinthians 12:11, Only the holy spirit decides... I really doubt he chooses foolishly. Just a footnote.
Exactly and there seems to never have an interpreter with these pastors either.
Corey: I want to clarify my statement. Regarding Paul bragging about speaking in tongues. I over empathized Paul’s statement in order to make my argument but I digress, here is more balanced view to my question, which was is Paul bragging about speaking in tongue’s: “In 1 Corinthians 14:18, the apostle Paul wrote, "I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you." It is important to understand the context of this statement to determine whether or not Paul was bragging about speaking in tongues.
In the preceding verses, Paul emphasizes the importance of using spiritual gifts, including the gift of speaking in tongues, in a way that benefits the entire Christian community. He encourages the Corinthians to use their gifts in an orderly and edifying manner, rather than seeking to draw attention to themselves.
When Paul says that he speaks in tongues more than all of the Corinthians, he is not necessarily bragging or boasting about his own spirituality or superiority. Instead, he is using his own experience to encourage the Corinthians to use their gifts in a way that benefits others.
Furthermore, it is important to note that Paul's emphasis in 1 Corinthians 14 is not on speaking in tongues itself, but on the need for all spiritual gifts to be used in a way that builds up the community. In verse 19, Paul states that he would rather speak five intelligible words than ten thousand words in a tongue, emphasizing the importance of speaking in a way that can be understood by others.
Therefore, while Paul does acknowledge that he speaks in tongues more than the Corinthians, he does not appear to be bragging or boasting about it. Rather, he is using his experience to encourage the Corinthians to use their gifts in a way that benefits the community as a whole.” (ChatGPT).
Yes. Paul made that statement, that he speaks in tongues more than anyone, to clarify that he wasn't against speaking in tongues after exhorting the church not to speak in tongues in church unless the tongue is interpreted.
@@robertcain3426 exactly! Which solidifies the idea that you can and should speak in tongues privately because this is what Paul did. Unfortunately, Corey seems to be confounded that the opposite of in the church would be tongues in private.
Well said
When I was a kid there were people who claimed they were healed at Michael Jackson concerts. This is what hysteria and histrionics does to a human. So people who are emotional junkies and use their own experience to dictate their truth will not endure sound doctrine. They’re given to mania and euphoria but God is a god of order. So I am always skeptical of people who overly emphasize feelings. People who are navigated by their emotions are subject to do anything and feel justified. They’ll say things like “The spirit told me this or that”…Mike Todd for instance does that very thing.
good video enjoy your day..!!
Dr. Brown does a great job at debating tongues with sort of like this childlike / innocent understanding… but it’s really hard not to think that he is acting because of the biblical knowledge that we know he possesses.
I was hoping that Corey told him that his babababa is exactly what is coming out of the mouths of those who profess to speak tongues.
Dr. Brown said bababa is nothing… And that’s exactly Corey’s point!
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I try not to label myself either a Calvinist, Charismatic, Catholic. I lost the peace of GOD and Assurance of Salvation, after a tongues ( gibberish ) experience many years ago. What puzzles me I how can a Believer in Christ Rejoice if they believe they can subsequently loose Salvation after the New Birth of Faith in Christ for Salvation. Luke 10:20, Rom 4:5, Eph 1:13, 1 Cor 15 ) Most Charismatic, despite their great boast in the miraculous manifestations deny this simple precious truth.
So true!
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John 10:27-28
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
so how do you deal with him saying his sheep know his voice and he knows them and no one can ever snatch them out of his hand
Is it a case of sheep who listen to my voice and if they don't fall away know my voice, and I know them but if they don't I never knew you
If he never knew them which we know he'll say on judgement day to false prophets and people who think they're saved in Matthew 7, were they ever sheep in the first place?
I'd say no, if you are truly born again and his sheep you may stray but will get there in the end guided by the Shepard's voice hence no one will ever snatch you out of his hand
If you believe you were born again but fall and don't come back, it brings into question were you really a sheep did you really know his voice?
Imo you still have a choice in all of this I just see it as God's omniscience on show all those who choose him he knows before they were made while still giving the chance for all who will reject him a chance to choose him.
@@sisterbecky411 GOD Promises that all who Trust Christ for Eternal Salvation are Sealed by the HOLY SPIRIT unto the Day of Salvation ( EPH 1:13 ) , Charismatics who in their zeal, fail to rightly divide the scripture and receive a 'different spirit.' 2 Corinthians 11:4, and legalistic, condemning spirit, opposite of the True Spirit of Adoption (Romans 8:15) and Eternal Security which All receive the moment of Salvation. Believers who seek this 'Stange fire' of Charismatic tongues, subsequent to their True Salvation, and other mystical experiences invite this 'different spirit' which vexes their lives from thence on. As far as the sins of the flesh, God Chastises BUT Not Condemns wayward ( & lets be honest, no believer is without sins, even after conversion 1 John 1:9 ) believers. "But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world"1 Corinthians 11:32 Most Charismatics that I've talked with, seem to have a self-righteous faith plus works mentality, and thus twist scripture to justify their view
It's sad when church teaches more about speaking in tongues, than salvation.
@@sisterbecky411 many
Too many 😢 you are unfortunately right brother
It’s sad when someone misrepresents and disrespects an entire group of people because they disagree with them.
For Paul to address the church in Corinth only, about tongues, means there was an issue with how they were using it, or doing it.
It seemed the church in Corinth was filled with many previous gentile unbelievers.
Many unbelievers wants “spiritual” experiences.
Ghost hunting etc.
So Paul had to deal with the newly converted believers about what spiritual gifts are supposed to do for the body of Christ & we all are gifted differently.
So l agree with Corey on this one. 👍👌
Interesting how this view isn’t supported in the text though. Especially because in Acts gentiles we’re filled with the Spirit and they had a spiritual experience. Does that mean Luke was wrong in referring to these events as good things that came from God?
I mean since you think seeking an encounter with God is the equivalent of ghost hunting and many other wicked things.
There was a time in my life where I was speaking a little Tagalog , the language of the PI and I thought that I was using the language correctly. Years later I heard from a Philippine brother that I was talking the Lords name in vain! Oh the conviction that came over me that caused my heart to cry out to God and apologize for what I had done.
Truth Corey, Amen🕊️
Tongues is an actual language, for a purpose. I'm sure most who do the babbling today would be humbled by a simple translation software.
So please give me your interpretation of 1 Corinthians 14:2
@@righteousrebelmedia5934 it's a pretty evident in the rest of the chapter that Paul is explaining the purpose of tongues and it's use. He even explains later in verse 27 of the same chapter how it should be done correctly. All you have to do is keep reading while knowing that the letter is one of correction for the Corinthians.
@@righteousrebelmedia5934 also it's an actual language.
@@righteousrebelmedia5934If you read the chapter all the way through, Paul clearly says to desire the better way which is to edify the church.
@@righteousrebelmedia5934 Don’t you read the Bible? Read the verses and read them correctly with the right context.
That was a great debate. My pops has always been able to speak in tongues but he usually would only do this when he was praying to himself. I've never been able to speak in tongues but everybody seen to nowadays .. But yeah I agree with Dr Brown was saying . This may have been the first debate I saw on Corey's channel where Corey was the student and Dr Brown was the teacher. I still liked it though..
@@sisterbecky411 you may be right.. I mean we are Christians sometimes have to sometimes accept the fact that we don't always know everything all the time..
@@sisterbecky411 what does this verse have to do with tongues?
So you're saying Pops was speaking nonsense instead of praying? I read ya.
@@sisterbecky411🤦
That verse has nothing to do with asking God for the phony Pentecostal/Charismatic imitation of the 1st Century gift of languages. Asking God for Charismatic "tongues" is asking God for a stone rather than bread.
I truly understand the scriptures, Bro Corey brings light in the subject of tongues, but I believe tongues is a gift! it fell on me in my home as I was praying, it was never taught it was never mimicked and I don't speak it publicly, and when I speak I truly feel the presence of God! it's my personal worship!! God bless!! 🙏
Good job bro!
Brown was blinking a lot, a sign of being nervous …
Pray for him…
Do a part 2 on questions.
Text that I sent to a friend about this discussion before listening to the whole discussion
Just listening to it, I have experienced that those who are adamant about speaking in tongues are going to get impatient when you disagree with them.
And if push come to shove they are going to say "Why are you not asking for it", "Until you experience it, you will understand" 😳🤔
I'm just 25 minutes in..I wonder if the question will be asked specifically.
1) If we agree that what the apostles spoke in Acts was actually a human language, when and why did it switch to "angelic" language?
2) If it is an "angelic" language where in scripture does it say the gift of tongues would be understood to be an angelic language also if the only context of understanding the gift of tongues would be in Acts?
3) If it is to be understood that this gift of tongues could be both , does anywhere in scripture it reveals when any Angel spoke to a human it was this "angelic" language or if the angels spoke to each other does the Bible describe their speaking to each other as unknown to the human, but revealed by God?
4) If the praying in tongues is an angelic language is this only received through "Baptism of the Holy Spirit". And does one have to ask God for this Baptism or is it given freely by God?
5) If you are saying praying in the spirit is praying in tongues, would you agree that any Christian who has not prayed in tongues can only pray in their mind?
6) If these Christians can only pray with/in their mind, do you believe there relationship/communication with God is hindered in some way as compared to a Christian who prays in tongues?
6) So does that mean that any Christian who does not speak in tongues is NOT filled with the Holy Spirit. So can you be a Christian and not be filled with the Holy Spirit?
Love your content.
That was a very good conversation with the scholar Dr. Brown, thanks for posting. Brotha Corey you certainly represented yourself & your position very well!
It's this simple God gives gifts at his will.
Corey's mic drop statement, if the scriptures say not everyone speaks in tongues, then how can there be people saying the Bible commands Christians to speak in tongues to edify themselves? That would mean some Christians are deprived of being able to edify themselves.
Keep teaching
Corey you are correct in your teaching. It’s easier for “Christians” to speak in a tongue instead of doing the hard work of reading their bible correctly and rightly dividing the truth of the Word. By speaking this tongue and not tongues are you winning souls to Christ ? which is our great commission from Jesus. We can speak in heavenly languages when we actually get to heaven …if that is what God wills . But right now souls need to be saved and they need to understand that in their own language and not private languages.
@Christopher Hayes Praise God for your ministry of outreach and evangelism ! The gift of tongues was actual languages is established in Acts 2:1-13 affirmed in this text by Paul’s calling it “of men”-clearly a reference to human language. This was the gift which the Corinthians prized so highly, abused so greatly, and counterfeited so disastrously. God gave the ability to speak in a language not known to the speaker, as a sign with limited function because tongues was a sign for unbelievers not believers..”tongues … of angels”was Apostle Paul writing in general hypothetical terms. There is no biblical teaching of any special angelic language that people could learn to speak related to increasing your desire to read the Bible.The Holy Spirit is the One who increases your desire to read the Bible. Can you show me the texts or texts in the Bible that refer to tongues increasing your desire to read the Bible? Thank you .
@Christopher Hayes I’m not using my interpretation I’m going by what scripture says and I’m not condemning you are anyone who claims to speak in tongues. I’m just saying be careful with the Word of God and use Scripture to interpret Scripture. I believe you received a prophetic word from God to inspire you to start your ministry and call to seminary. I pray you have a blessed journey that is guided by God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Peace to you
Your question makes no sense. When a Christian is praying and reading the scriptures and is edifying themselves through songs and praises to God, are they winning souls to Christ at that moment? The gift of tongues is meant to edify the believer not win souls to Christ. In fact the gift of the Spirit is to build up the Church as a whole and as individuals; not just to win souls for Christ.
We can’t just take the greek words and then see something interpreted literally word for word and then take those different words and mash them together into what you want it to say. Think of what Paul would ACTUALLY BE SAYING! Corey does a great job of this. A literal full context meaning.
You do know the Bible was written in the week about English
ChatGPT perspective: Q: What are Dr. Michael Brown’s positions on speaking in tongue’s?
A: “Dr. Michael Brown is a Christian theologian and author who has written extensively on the topic of speaking in tongues. He holds to a charismatic or Pentecostal perspective on the gifts of the Holy Spirit, which includes speaking in tongues as one of those gifts.
However, Dr. Brown is known for taking a nuanced and balanced approach to the topic. He affirms the biblical basis for speaking in tongues and believes that it is a legitimate spiritual gift that can be used to edify both the individual and the church. At the same time, he also acknowledges that there are excesses and abuses in the practice of speaking in tongues, and that it is important to exercise discernment and order in its use.
Dr. Brown has also been critical of some of the extreme teachings and practices that have emerged within the charismatic movement, such as the belief that speaking in tongues is a necessary evidence of being filled with the Holy Spirit or that it is a means of achieving a higher level of spirituality. He has emphasized the importance of balancing the experience of the Holy Spirit with biblical teaching and the fruit of the Spirit, and has urged believers to pursue love, humility, and unity in their use of spiritual gifts, including speaking in tongues.”
When believers have spiritual experiences, such as the baptism with the Holy Ghost accompanied by tongues and prophecy, or they experience miracles, or dreams and visions divinely inspired, those unlearned choose to invalidate these in their own minds, and make accusations of exalting experience over the word of God.
If your salvation is void of experiences noted in the holy scriptures, your need to seek God on an ongoing basis.
If we have the Spirit of God, we need to stir up the gift. God inhabits the praises of his people.
Praying is an experience, doing the works is an experience, giving the testimony of Jesus Christ is an experience.
These are all spiritual activities. If we seek God faithfully, he shows us shows us things that we know not, even his strange acts noted in scriptures.
We are a peculiar people, the temple of the living God.
Jesus said, If you love me, my Father will love you, and we will make our abode with you, and manifest ourselves to you. God has manifested himself to me and in me, that is my experience, glory to God. If I denied it, I would be a liar, like unto so many others.
Some of us have legitimate, authentic gifts of the Spirit, but some are charlatans who bring disgrace upon the church, causing the name of the Lord to be blasphemed.
Seek the giver of the gifts, and they will be given, but that takes effort, work, and commitment, but it is easier to criticize. What men are not up on, they are down on.
Grace and peace be multiplied through the knowledge of God and of Christ Jesus. Love is the greatest gift.
Dr Brown is correct and clearly Corey is so focused on the Greek he’s making it seem like our English translation is the problem , he has to use the Greek to make his view seem right . But when challenged by DR Brown he clearly was exposed especially with interpretation of the Word .
Why isn’t the singular form of “tongue” in 1 Corinthians 14 not used anywhere else in the Bible in the same way? The only other times, according to logos, is when it speaks of a physical tongue.
The KJV distinguishes this singular “tongue” as an unknown “tongue”.
“For he that speaketh in an 👉unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.”
1 Corinthians 14:2 KJV
@@ShepherdMinistry why are you asking me this question? If you are already convinced there’s no need for me to respond to you , I’m not Dr Brown ask him .
@@Dabernathy51 so you do not know why you believe what you do? You just follow a man?
@@ShepherdMinistry yep you are so right I’m amazed at your intelligence.
Brown was very knowledgeable and made good points but he was the one that made it “lively” would love to know why most and I mean most tongues speaking is done with no interpretation when it clearly says 2 or 3 at most and always with interpretation! It’s always a confusing, mass speaking in tongues when I have seen it. No interpretation!
32:00 Edifying and rebuke can go along if one holds to a correct view of Salvation ( Soteriology the study of doctrines of salvation ) . Its because one is Already Safe and Secure as their eternal Soul is concerned, there are consequences for sin and unfaithfulness, in This life, and Rewards ( not to be confused with Salvation itself) 1 Corinthians 3:13-15, 2John8 referring to the sin of tolerating false teaching ( Roman Catholism, Oneness Pentecostalism, JW, LDS , )
"Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward"
I believe those who have embraced elements of Charismatic theology, have lost rewards ( not Salvation ) and have leavened their testimony in this life.
Cory did the people understood what was said before Peter spoke?
Loved the deep dive into scripture here. I wish Dr. BROWN could address all the plain scriptures, instead of just making assertions.
I respect Dr. Brown but he did the same thing with the Hebrew Israelite he missed the opportunity to break down scriptures instead he made assertions/interpretations without really diving into the text. He can’t just assert he has to biblical walk us through all the texts
Thanks!
Wouldn't the gift of discernment/discerning of spirits be for self edification? Or what about the Word of wisdom or knowledge? Or the gift of faith? All of these could be used for self edification at times...of course that's clearly not the only way they are used or should be used as we should abound in edifying the body.
So just because we shouldn't primarily use a gift for self edification doesn't mean we are unable to do so or that God wouldn't grant us the gift to do so at times.
God could absolutely grant someone a gift of faith for their own edification and benefit.
Interesting thing about Corey is that he calls himself a, “biblical continuationist.” When you look at what he says it’s a little confusing. He says he believes the gifts should be operative today. My questions would be this:
1. How do believers cultivate a practice of spiritual gifts?
2. In what ways have you seen the gifts of the spirit moving through you to edify believers?
If you can’t answer both of these questions in a clear, practical way, then you are what’s called a, “Functional cessationist.”
Meaning that you say you “believe” in these things yet, you are not a practitioner. Which is super interesting considering that if you believe these things should be in your life, yet don’t see them, how much do you really believe? Aren’t you just a spectator even though scripture calls you to be an active ?
My challenge to Corey would be that he takes a step back, study what the plain reading of scripture is, and then really pray and ask God to show him why he isn’t seeing the gifts operative in his life especially since he should because he believes they never ceased.
It’s simple…he just doesn’t believe it. So how in the world can he witness the gifts of the Spirit operating in his life. People like him are not willing to just allow the scriptures to speak to them and go with the flow by just accepting them and believing what they say. Instead they are motivated by their own doubt and unbelief. And because they don’t believe they have to create a false narrative to satisfy their unbelief. They are carnal minded Christians. For him to suggest that the gift of tongues was used to preach the gospel, that shows how desperate he is to twist the scriptures to justify his own doubtful carnal mind.
Corey you have excellent points!
I’m with Dr Brown on this. His interpretation is more consistent scripturally.
I am with Corey on this. We do not have to ask for the Holy Spirit because it is already given to every believer. Also, no spiritual gift is given for personal edification but for the benefit of all therefore we must interpret what Paul says in that context. Acts 1:8 speaks of the propagation of the gospel to peoples group and it is evident in Jerusalem, Judaea, Samaria and to the unreached peoples. Tongues are not for power. I disagree with the good Dr.
@@i.karlhood3825 the Holy Spirit is not a it, maybe you never meant to write that. We do have the Holy Spirit already , however there is a principle in the verse about asking for the Hily Spirit.
@@liberatingtruths777 let us not split hairs on this. I am well aware that the Holy Spirit is not an it. Let us look at the substance of what I said. Look at the context of the discourse and you will se that no one is told to ask for the Holy Spirit after Pentecost. Peter said that this promise is to ALL that the Lord calls. We are told to submit to the Spirit. Using experience as a hermeneutical method is severely flawed.
Yes, just want to know what's true as well, Jackie Edinburgh.
Tongues mean languages - we have all benefited from Paul's edification from speaking in tongues! Apostle Paul brought correction and balance - 1 Cor 14:39 - "Where, brethren, covet to prophesy, and DO NOT FORBID to speak in tongues." I have spoken in tongues for 31 one years. I have interpreted my tongues and others. This ability has been a blessing to me and many others.
Just because you hear Muslims praying in their own language, that doesn't invalidate speaking in tongues. My whole church speaks in tongues, and all of our tongues sound different. We clearly understand the difference between speaking in tongues for edification and giving a message in tongues (which requires an interpreter). Tongues and interpretation are equivalent to prophesy.
There are many things you don't see step by step in the Bible that we do in churches, but they don't 21:35 violate biblical principles. Is an altar call in the bible? Is sending in your offering via cash app in the bible? You get my point?
Don't despise speaking in tongues. You risk missing the many benefits others have gained around the world. My interpretation of tongues has led to family members being healed of stage 4 cancer, miraculous provisions and supernatural directions, to name a few. Please don't live beneath your privilege.
Language or tounges as you call it is a know language. When I ask people who speak in tounges what they said the answer was I don't know. That's not a gift.
Hey there brother, I believe you may have misunderstood what he was trying to explain; in Act 2. The “gift” of interpretation is not the same as the gift of interpretation as mentioned in I Corinthians 12 & 14. Let’s take a plain view-plain reading approach to the text. The question is? is the indwelling of Spirit of the God and the operation of the gift of interpretation demonstrated when Peter stood up and testified as the experience that just happened? I heard you mention ( adamantly) about the interpretation, the point he raises is that there was no evangelizing taken place.
❤Thanks Corey, great debate
Hey servant I hope you doing good.Just want it to add next time you really like to have a debate or discussion on this matter you should ask or read about this pastor in Brazil his name is Augustus Nicodemus Gomes Lopes.
Peace and grace
One question would be is , Why would we need to speak mysteries to God when the Holy Spirit is already praying for us ? Also Paul starts off 1st Cor . 14 saying to earnestly desire prophesy . He could have easily said to desire tongues . Tongues is not a gift to edify the body it is a sign gift to unbelievers . We build ourselves up by reading the word not praying unknown languages . The whole context of 1st cor . is rebuke because they were doing things that caused division
I think the simplest way of understanding the use of unknown tongues is to know about the author who wrote 1 Corinthians which we know it is Paul. If Paul said he spoke in tongues and spoke mysteries whether privately or publicly he received the revelation and used to edify the body. But those who speak in tongues now claim that they speak mysteries. If so do they really receive revelation for themselves or for others? Absolutely no. Can those tongues speakers show they are differences in their attitude and actions? Absolutely no. The purpose of Paul’s message is to have unity by edifying each other not to have division by calming speaking tongues gets closer to God. What a foolishness to say that God allows only very few people to speak angelic or heavenly languages to speak mysteries to God.
When I was going through, I didn’t speak in tongues the father heard he did in my own language
Act 2.33
Dr Brown is absolutely correct. Corey is not reading the text as it is but as he wants it to be according to his unbelief. He is creating his own narrative. Acts does not in any way show the disciples evangelizing the world through tongues. That is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. When the people initially heard them speak, those who understood heard them praising God. They were not preaching the gospel. It amazes me how someone can read the scriptures yet ignore what it is actually saying and then create a false narrative. As someone that also has the gift of tongues, I don’t care what Corey or any other Christian has to say. Their opinion based on ignorance means absolutely nothing to me. The only thing that matters is exactly what the scriptures says and my person testimony which is aligned with the scriptures.
So you are saying that because it's wrong to edify yourself too much, that you should never edify yourself? That's the logic here as to why we shouldn't pray to God in tongues is because it's self edifying right?
Again I say this - all Christians are called to self edifying - we are supposed to strengthen our faith and knowledge through the word of God. Anytime I read my Bible I am edifying myself. But then if I keep that to myself and don't use that increase to help others, that's when it becomes wrong. This was the problem in Corinth - they were ONLY using the gifts for self edification and not for the whole body.
I just don't understand why we can't see the balance here. Don't look at the crazy charismatics in one ditch and then get so afraid that you jump into the ditch on the other side of the road.
Where can I view the debate?
On here just under this video
How dose someone call you a cultist, when you are literally showing them the words of the Bible, right in front of their itching eyes
When I was a kid growing up in a Apostolic Charismatic Denomination the elders and mothers of the church would tell us that we were going straight to Hell because we couldn't speak in tongues on command. As a child I was smart enough to know that looking demon possessed while speaking gibberish had nothing to do with THE MOST HIGH. Being a 34 adult man with some knowledge of the scriptures, nobody can convince me that this babbling gibberish honors TMH in anyway. I`m so glad we got people like Corey exposing this nonsense for what it is and people who are defending this need to understand that your feelings don't supersede biblical authority.
I think Dr Brown is being inconsistent he asked where does it say that and when the table was turned he says i think this is what it say the only way that all scripture can be reconciled is with Corey's view and i didn't get this view by Corey i had it long before i listened to him
Corey is correct
Dr. Brown associates “you will receive power” with tongues when in reality “you will receive power” means when the Holy Spirit comes in to abide in and over you.
The gift of Tongues isn’t the “power” or for “power”… The gift of tongues and every other gift is a product of the “power of the Holy Spirit / God”.
In Pentecostal doctrine. The Gifts of the Spirit are exalted where only God should be exalted. And if they deny this then go to a Pentecostal service and notice how they worship and clamor at the alter of “The Gifts”.
The entire service is God fill me up! Pour out your gifts! Give me, give me, give me…
How is clamoring for the gifts actually lifting up the name of Jesus? How can clamoring and begging for the gifts be considered true worship?
The truth is in a Pentecostal service there is 5% of true worship unto God and 95% of clamoring for God’s gift over their lives… which means they are exalting themselves higher than they exalt God.
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1 Corinthians 12:15-16 (ESV): 15 If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” that would not make it any less a part of the body. 16 And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” that would not make it any less a part of the body.
When you say that because gifts are for edifying the body, you cannot possibly edify yourself in any way whatsoever by using the gift, you are saying that you are not part of the body.
Teaching should edify you as you study, and explaining things to others helps you understand them better yourself. Healing builds up the faith of the one God uses in the gift of healing. Similar with prophecy, words of wisdom and knowledge, etc.
So of course tongues can also edify yourself. Christianity is not an ascetic religion. Putting others' needs before your own is not the same as denying yourself of all of your needs and the good pleasures of life that God created for us. Why do you ever eat food if you are only ever commanded to build up others and never yourself? Couldn't someone else use that food instead?
I agree we have a big pride problem in America, and some big Charismatic names are prime examples of that problem. But that's not an excuse to despise the works of the Spirit. We need to judge and discern every spirit to see whether it is from God, not just say it must not be from God if it benefits me at all.
Your whole argument is that the direct issue Paul is dealing with is an abuse of tongues, so everything he says about it in the passage must be negative. This is an incredibly unbalanced reading, and I assert that Paul was being far more careful than you want him to be. He made sure to include phrases like, "I want you all to speak in tongues," and, "I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you," so as to not swing the pendulum all the way back the opposite way. He's arguing for balance, moderation, and the right mindset with which to use the gift. He's not saying, "You're abusing tongues, so stop speaking in tongues except in extremely rare circumstances." He's saying that *specifically in church,* they should be careful to not over-use tongues, not talk over each other, and should make sure an interpreter is present. He qualifies the statement, "I'd rather speak 5 words with my mind than 10,000 in a tongue," with the condition, "in church." Thus his immediately preceding statement, "I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you," must be *in private.* It cannot be in the mission field because he specifically says that unbelievers and outsiders will say they are out of their minds if they speak in tongues!
Bingo! This right here. His entire tongues systematic hinges on this idea that Corinth was speaking gibberish tongues and that Paul was using sarcasm (how could he be sure of this)....and it is completely clouding his understanding of the chapter.
If for just a moment he would even pretend he believed the Corinthians had the real gift of Tongues in operation, it would all have so much more balance and he wouldn't need all the mental gymnastics.
He said that unbelievers would think you are out of your minds because the Corinthians used to be pagan and would just speak in tongues uncontrollably in their pagan religion. This doesnt disprove that tongues had a purpose like I've seen people try to argue here. Paul doesnt seem to be commanding tongues in Corinthians, rather he seemed to be reigning them in.
@@beaberean3286 if the Corinthian tongues was given by the Holy Spirit, would the Holy Spirit just cause total chaos in the church? Legitimate question. Real tongues would only be brought on by the holy spirit and not the believer himself. One of the fruits of the spirit is self control. Wasnt Paul straight pointing to this is the Corinthian church? Weve seen a reflection of this in the american church where people use corthinthians then ignore these passages. Sorry but you still have to cherry pick scripture to avoid the fact that they could have reverted back to their pagan behavior
@@Taushathetech hello! I understand what you are saying, but Paul actually gives indication that when the gift of tongues is given by the Spirit, it is still subject to the person. Vs 32 - the spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet.
So it's not as if God overtakes you and forces you to speak or to stop. It is still up to us to practice the fruit of the Spirit when we use the gifts.
Also, Paul never tells them to stop what they are doing or forbids it, instead he adds nuance - in the church pray for interpretation of that their be an interpreter. If the tongues were gibberish then he could not and would not give this kind of instruction.
Instead he saysbin vs 28 - if there be no interpreter, hold your peace (don't speak out loud for all to hear) AND speak to yourself and to God - again reverting back to the pmtongues use he spoke of in the opening between you and God alone.
So many times people say if there is no interpreter, then don't use tongues, but that's clearly not what Paul says in vs ,28 - silence = hold your peace and then he actually says to keep on speaking.
So again, just because there is no interpreter doesn't mean it's gibberish either.
Hope you consider what I've said - because if they did revert back to pagan tongues, Paul wouldn't have encouraged them to keep going with it.
If the tongues in Corinth were gibberish, Paul wouldn't have said this: 1 Corinthians 14:12-13 Even so you, since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the church that you seek to excel.
Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret.
He is telling those who currently speak in tongues to have it be interpreted...but if it was gibberish, this would be impossible. This shows that the type of tongues weren't wrong or false, they were just being used wrongly.
What does praying in the Spirit mean?
It means praying by the will of the spirit as he leads not tongues romans 8 is not speaking about tongues because it says "groaning to deep for words" groanings are not words and to deep for words means no words are uttered,the best example of praying in the spirit is in the psalms it says "David speaking in the spirit says the lord said to my lord"
Well according to 1 cor 14 - praying in the spirit is not done with your own understanding and other don't understand it either....which is why we also have the gift of interpretion.
1 Corinthians 14:13-16 Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding. Otherwise, if you bless with the spirit, how will he who occupies the place of the uninformed say "Amen" at your giving of thanks, since he does not understand what you say?
@@beaberean3286 ive seen you quote this twice. This passage deserves the entirety of the chapter to fully understand.
@@Taushathetech so you do you care to explain? Because Paul clearly says if you bless with the spirit the other does not understand - ie: a different language.
Therefore Paul is Clearly talking about diversities of tongues here and is showing why we need to use speech with understanding in the church.
I agree, the Corinthians were using the gift of tongues selfishly, but it was still the real gift, it wasn't gibberish..
Corey you are making sense...You kept saying sometimes it was real and other times it wasn't...WHAT??? IF SPEAKING IN TOUNGES AS WE DO IT TODAY IS NOT A LANGUAGE, THEN IT IS NOT REAL!!!...What are you saying???
You got worked over. Not that you were wrong, but you allowed several things to take place that didn't give you the W:
You let Brown dictate the time.
You let him cut you off.
You let him appeal to emotion (fallacy).
You let him appeal to authority (fallacy).
You let him get all his points in and conceded arguments without counters.
It didn't feel productive, but it happened.
Dr. Brown cuts everyone off. My theory is he is not totally secure in believing his own position which is why he does that. It's very difficult to watch people debate him cuz no one tells him to stop
I agree I could actually not listen to the whole discussion as I was getting frustrated at Corey not being able to finish his arguments
Wow! Did we watch the same video? they both cut each other off and they were ok with it.
I feel like part of it is just the fact that there was no moderator for the discussion and no formal rules for the "debate"
That fact remains that Dr. Brown was biblically correct but Corey wasn’t. He did not appeal to “emotions” he actually appealed to the scriptures themselves. So your accusation is false.
Experience means nothing compared to sound doctrine I do not care what my experience is if 2+2=4 my experience can not make it come up to something different.
Sound doctrine all the way baby!
Salvation is experiential.
@@robertcain3426 And it is marked by changed desires, thoughts, and actions. You shall know them by their fruits. Don't count on experience alone!
@@smartsimplefit Of course, I agree. Though I was merely pointing out that salvation is experiential. John 16:8, the Holy Spirit is sent to convict of sin. This is experiential.
@@robertcain3426 And thank God for the ministry of His Holy Spirit!
It would be a horrible fate though to be one who has tasted the spirit and have fallen away (Hebrews 6:4-6). I fear many people alive today are in this boat :(
I just don't understand how you say that praying in the Spirit (1 cor 14 only) isn't equated to praying in tongues. It's so clear but it's like you don't want to see it.
1 Corinthians 14:14-15 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is the conclusion then? *I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding.* (These are opposed - meaning Spirit prayer is without natural understanding in this context)...
Reading all these comments from people who read that particular chapter incorrectly is disturbing. Corey adds more context than is mentioned, and everyone else here in the comment section that do not possess the gift just follow him blindly. This seriously grieves the Holy Spirit. I feel it in my own spirit when I read them.
Corey you are my brother. And, I agree the scriptures teach tongues is languages. Just like you believe. Brother you lost the debate. Your presentation was weak. Dr Brown presentation was much stronger. I encourage you to take tips for Dr James White.
Tongues are for private edification. Tongue talking in church is not profitable because it is not useful to others because it isn’t interpreted. In private, it is communication with God and edification to the believer.
Speaking in tongues can be understood to mean speaking in various intelligible languages. Acts 2:3 and Acts 3:8 exemplifies this point.
1 Corinthians 14:17 For you indeed give thanks well, but the other is not edified.
-- it cannot be gibberish if you are giving thanks well.
Here’s my question. What would be the difference you are making for the kingdom by “speaking in tongues”. What are you accomplishing by speaking in this “heavenly language” vs praying in english? Also what is the difference between me faking it and speaking gibberish while God reads my inner thoughts and you speaking in tongues? I have never seen what this profits. Seriously explain to me the difference between real and fake and what it profits the kingdom more.
Corey you are 100 percent right.
Gopher Indians!😂
Jesus Aleph Tav of Aleph Bet(alphabet)
22 Hebrew letters.
Bible 66 Books
Trinity 22+22+22=66
DNA 22 autosomes
DNA two helix united by autosomes
RNA walks on water to get to other side/helix
Jesus walked on water
Holy Spirit hovered above the waters
In Genesis 28 God's "tower" to heaven in Jacob's ladder where the angels were going up and down on it is mixed sounds of new languages in consequence to Babel.
In John 1:51 Jesus is saying it was Him (Aleph Tav) on top Jacob's ladder.
Tongues of angels has to do with their role at Tower of Babel and languages to people unto salvation. A sign of judgement to the Jews (Isaiah 28, 1 Corinthians 14).
Angels were also present at the giving of the law on mt. Sinai in Exodus.
Israel came out with a mixed multitude, non israelites. So there's a narrative that tongues of angels has to do with sound. In this respect, it's into languages to people.
John 1:51 And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.
Tongues is meant to communicate His Word to non Hebrews.
Hope this helps somebody
It can't be gibberish or Paul wouldn't tell those who speak in tongues to pray that they'd interpret it: 1 Corinthians 14:13 Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret.
I was in the pentecostal movement for decades. I NEVER heard someone speaking in tongues being real languages. It ALWAYS was gibberish. I am out of pentecostalism now and will never return.
For decades I asked people who speak in tounges what they said, the answer was I don't know.
That's not a gift, you may be cursing.
Every spirit in church is not the Holy Spirit.
What is the purpose of The Gift of Tongues? You never gave an answer. Hopefully you would answer that the next time you talk about the misuse.
Hindus (Kundalini) speak in tongues, prophesy, and heal-(not Muslims)🌻
Important distinctions must be made… Q: What are examples of counterfeit speaking in tongue’s? A:
Speaking in tongues, also known as glossolalia, is a phenomenon where a person speaks in a language they do not know or understand. While it is a legitimate practice in some religious traditions, there are also instances where people may feign or counterfeit speaking in tongues. Here are some examples:
1. Babbling: Some people may simply babble incoherently, making random sounds or syllables without any discernible structure or meaning.
2. Mimicking: Others may mimic the sounds and patterns of actual languages, without actually speaking any known language.
3. Emotional manipulation: Some individuals may use speaking in tongues as a means of emotional manipulation, attempting to control or influence others by speaking in a way that is intended to appear spiritual or mystical.
4. Attention-seeking: Some people may use speaking in tongues as a way to draw attention to themselves, either for personal gain or as a means of satisfying their own ego.
5. Deception: In some cases, individuals may claim to be speaking in tongues in order to deceive others or to advance their own agenda.
It's important to note that just because someone's speaking in tongues may seem inauthentic or counterfeit, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are doing so deliberately. There are many reasons why someone may speak in tongues that don't necessarily involve deception or ill intent.” (ChatGPT)
@@bengill1980 ChatGPT. Well I guess that settles it then.😅
Corey is brushing away anything that contradicts his false views and he is not interpreting the scriptures correctly. He also claims the Gentiles were only given the gift of tongues just to show the Jews they also have the Holy Spirit. But once they had the gift of tongues what does Corey think they did with it??? Does he think they went around speaking in tongues to evangelize people in their own community that already spoke their language?? Absolutely ridiculous. He has no basis…ZERO to claim tongues was ever used to preach the gospel.
Speaking in tongues is a gift of the spirit and it indicates the spirit is within you… Marcus is not a false teacher like this guy portrays him, read the word of God to know the truth. Just like Paul, he was a man of revelation speaking in tongues enables you to connect and see in the spirit and be filled by the spirit
You need to examine yourself to see if you are indeed in the faith because you do not appear to have spiritual discernment at all.
@@DefenderoftheCross lol what ? Soo please tell me where do you disagree, have you read in the book of Conrithians. You are the one who is lost and judging your fellow believer like Marcus. What he said was right only by speaking in tongues is an indication your filled with the Holy Ghost not another way around
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1. We are to judge those in the Church. 1 Corinthians 5:12.
2. Marcus Rogers is not in the Church he is a heretic who denies the Trinity and the deity of Jesus.
3. Marcus Rogers is also a blasphemous false prophet who thinks the Holy Spirit told him to stick his head in a trash can.
@Christopher Hayes exactly it’d because he listens to channels like this and the host of this channel denies the concept of speaking in tongues but I told him to read the 1sh and second book of Conrithians to know the truth about speaking in tongues, tongues is more than a dialog with God but it’s language of Angels …but he will deny this fact too I bet hahah
@@isaacmwita2582Marcus is not a fellow believer in anything I believe in. He serves an idol
Allah literally means God.
It is not the name of God
No is NOT, stop repeating muslim propaganda and listen to arab speaking christian like Christan prince prince or Abdul ex muslim Or Hatum.. Please stop this nonsense ✌️✋