😌Yes, they did…now we need to call out who the “they” are…Jesus called them out left & right! Their father is the devil who is the father of lies…😏@zimmoton3698 is “they”.
Absolute truth, dealing with this is terrible. Especially when churches hire people to play that are not saved, just there for a check … and it absolutely shows😢
@@user-jv2gg7ht4e when I first became a Christian I thought church was a safe place. No body told me that there are just as many evil people in the church as on the outside. The evil is just not as open. One of those places I learned was church music hides worldly music right in the open. Some church music is just worldly music repackaged. I learned you still have to keep your guard up. What bothers me does not always bother the next person on the pew. The reverse is also true Later now in life I am fighting being cinical. Most of church is entertainment. Most church is just fun. A big party. I feel left behind
I learned this some years ago. I met a guy who got hired to play his guitar in a church. I asked him what denomination , he said Catholic but I don’t care I just need a job…I didn’t know what to say after that. Now it makes sense why the church choirs are often changed out nowadays
@@texasbelle333 this is true. I am split on my thoughts. On one hand why does it matter what the beliefs of the musician is? I just need someone to play well. I would dictate what the music is just play the song. On the other hand the person does bring his beliefs to YOUR fellowship. Even if this person does not verbalize his beliefs they spirit is there so to speak. He would invite other spirits that might just be against what you are trying to do. Music is a huge package of ideas thoughts and even spirits.
💯 sir!! Discernment is going to be very necessary these days. If you have no relationship with God, you won't know the difference between good and evil. Abide in the Vine.
Great analysis Corey over the whole state of modern Christian worship. One thing that makes me sick to my stomach the most is the "me-centered" gospel songs which are typically found in contemporary music. It's like every sentence is me, me, I, I'm, look at me I'm blessed and highly favored. All this and throw in a couple sentences about what God can do and that's it. It should be about reverence for who God is and about Him alone. Remember Hebrews 12:28-29.
I listened to a contemporary worship song once supposedly addressing God. For every pronoun referring to Him (You/Yours) there were three about the singer. (Me/My/I.)
The spirit of the world permeates thru so much of today’s “Christian music.” I noticed YEARS ago when I looked on the CD covers of Kirk Franklin (and others) that many of them looked like hard core “gangster rappers” or (in the case of the WHITE “Christian”artists) edgy “rock and rollers.” They had mean expressions on their faces and they looked angry. Some of them even appear to be sad. But when you look at the album covers of Christian artists back in the day (the 70’s and 80’s) they were smiling and looked happy! If you are singing about The Lord Jesus Christ you ought to have a joyful expression on your album cover! But I guess that wouldn’t be COOL these days!
so what to sing then? hymnals, country gospel, bluegrass, gregorian chant? what exactly is holy unto the Lord? My guess is it the exact things you like and approve of , right?
I love it is well but something about a solo singer doing theatrics while wearing stylish clothes in mood lighting screams ‘look at how good I can sing’ as opposed to saying look at how great God is
I attend a church which is 90% white. We have books we sing from, no lights,drums, or big screen. All the women wear dresses, and men are in suits. We have old fashion church, and I absolutely love it. My Pastor preaches, and not get up there screaming as if we can’t hear.
@@stevenlindsey2056 it is possibly a culture thing. I was once stationed at a post that had a small town next to it. There was a small church we went to. The church was 2% white. I guess it is all in how you present the data.
i dont assume that the things i don't like are demonic. that is absurd. i love how supposed christians LOVE to tear down the things they hate. Let's hope they all reap the whirlwind they sow.
Thank you for this video Brother Corey. I came under conviction about modern praise and worship music about 2 years ago. For myself, I realized that it was not conducive to putting me in a reverent or worshipful state of mind. Each Christian of course will have to search their own heart to see where God leads them. I believe your teachings here will be helpful for those who find themselves in a similar state of confusion where I was 2 years ago.
One thing I never understood is that when praise and worship is finished the musicians, singers, etc are never around. They put them all in a green room where there is constant talking and no listening to the word.
I'm only 14 minutes in and I believe I should share my thoughts. I am a born again Christian and a church musician. My belief is that 1) I need to be saved 2) know how to play the instrument 3) live according to the word 4) be doctrinally sound in the word. This being said I set these standards because on stage, I'm an example of praising the Most High. John 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
You don’t set standards Christ does. It’s up to us to us to live within Christ Standards. Just because one feels they need to play music in a church or other does not mean that is what Christ wants you to do.
My friend Mike is a contemporary worship leader in a large church. Mike sat by the bedside of his dying mother. She asked him to sing to her as she was dying. He noticed his modernistic music gave her no comfort or assurance. She in fact asked him to sing the old hymns instead. Mike told me that all night they sang the old hymns together until she exhaled her last breath and went home to glory. He told me he learned that night there is an inspiration in the old hymns that is missing in modern music.
I agree brother. Seems as though in Christian music there is no longer a distinguishing between the holy and the profane. Flesh, carnality on full display. We need to Repent, Return to our first Love Jesus.
Corey, do not touch my song, "thank you Lord" 😂😂😂 that song got me and is getting me through some though times. Thank you Lord for all you've done for meeeee
Being a Christian drummer (45 years pro) playing in my new church, I am having a really hard time getting into the current Praise music that is playing on KLove and other Christian radio stations. I grew up playing the Praise Maranatha style of music in church, so maybe I'm just too old for this stuff.
You answered your own question on why maybe if the songs you hear bring scriptural references and short form devotional it’s can help your heart and the worship team
I liked this video Corey. As a musician and song writer I can relate to this. Music in the church is a touchy subject for sure. When someone writes a song we really have no idea what their intentions are. I like old hymns but I don't know how they came about. I have listened to other teachings about Christian music and it is confusing? Spencer Smith talks about music alot and he has a guy on his show play Christian songs with a acoustic guitar. I do enjoy it but if he played the same song on an electric guitar they make seem like that is wrong? Or if you add drums to it then it becomes evil somehow. This confuses me. I don't play in a church and currently don't go to church. This saddens me I do still play and write songs at home. I try to write music that talks about the gospel message and Jesus. The thing is someone else could interpret the meaning differently. This makes music a touchy subject. I seen people play in bars on Saturday night and then be playing in church on Sunday morning? I have been in churches when they find out your a musician they want you to play for them no matter what you're situation is. I am sorry to vent here but this is a topic that makes for good subject matter for me. Be blessed peace 🕊️✌️
Strange fire in this case is worshipping the Lord in a way that the Lord has not commanded. It is unknown what exactly they placed in their censors, incense burners, but whatever it was it angered God a lot and the fire literally lashed out and consumed them. God is a consuming fire! Hallelujah
LA Mass Choir did "We Exalt Thee" back in 1993 back when black gospel was still about glorifying God andnot what you can get from Him. However, we must realize that the purpose of Christian music is to uplift the those who are already Christians (Eph. 5:19; Col. 3:16). This is where many artists fall short in their efforts. They try to cater their music to the lost, but when lost artists come to Christ they usually do a gospel album full of old school hymns, not the contemporary gospel that is out today.
Hi Cory, i have felt the same way about ccm for along time. I have found better theology in Christian Metal and Christian rap. I would suggest looking into Wolves at the Gate for metal or Shai Linne for theological rap. Amazing stuff from Shai Linne, every album is theologically sound.
The name of that beautiful worshipful song brother Corey talks about at around 32:00 is "Such An Awesome God" by Maverick City Music (featuring Maryanne George). What a transformative song. Almost seems to take you right into His presence. Also, "I/We Exalt Thee" was not written by Bethel Music (thank God!). It's an old song, written by Pete Sanchez back in 1975 (yes, I had to Google that). But we used to sing it in church when I was growing up A LONG time ago, way back in the late-70s and 80s 😂 It's just that it's a personal favorite of mine and, brothers and sisters, we can't let the heretics at Bethel ruin it for a new generation.
I dont have a problem with Christian music regardless of genre that's glorifying God, speaks of people's testimonies on what God did for them because that's still giving him glory, and positive music. I think today some people just have a limited view and think praise and worship looks and behaves the same for everyone. Everyone doesn't even feel the anointing the same. Everyone has a preference and that's fine. Just because some people don't like it doesn't mean it can't reach or touch other people. Many music ministries whether they get paid or not reach the lost and plant the seeds before a church even can. God is reaching people in many ways. Imagine if there was no internet the way it has advanced right now.
@@KeKe4Christ My point is more people are reached through it. Just like we are here on CZcams or whatever other platforms. Some people probably wouldn't hear the word or be exposed to it otherwise if they aren't going to church..
@@KeKe4ChristThat's true ... social media is a platform but in reality God Almighty doesn't need anything or anyone for His Work to be done as the Bible says He will even use an animal if humanity won't do it
Yeah because music has frequencies and satan played the best music so that's understandable also overtime especially in the black church there seems to be an emphasis on music going on forever and no preaching so ppl get the mindset it's a joke
That’s what I love about the praise team leadings into worship as opposed to the choir whose attention is more on the individual. I grew up in baptist church and the choir unfortunately was the backbone, and people came to hear specific folks sang. The so called minister of music was a homosexual 🫤. They were people worshippers. Music was their idol. I like the worship team method bc they are leading with theological/biblical words that edify and lift God up
I believe the shift really came from idolization of ppls talents....I find that many ministers keep on boasting on ppls talents, success above others and ego gets exalted....when ministers do this they tend to ignore sin in the church for the sake of talent and that is demonic as satan played beautiful music above all so that says it all
It's sad. Many churches make superstars out of their solo singers. And alot of the choirs are nothing more than hipsters that know all the latest moves and dances but don't know the word of GOD. Like Tye Tribbett said, the so called gospel music industry is nothing more than an industry that's driven by money and sales. When you mix money with what is suppose to sacred and revered, it will not stand. We need to get back to hymns that lead us ALL to corporate worship And these songs that mention season, purpose, destiny etc...need to shut down. This is all self glory. Jesus should be held above everything.
Lol exactly many ministers boost ppls egos so then you have a church full of wannabe Beyonce's....the church ignores sin because too many want to be entertained.... music is hyped so much in service and ppl wonder y majority of the church feels anxious, suicidal, depressed...all these things relate to the frequency in music
My top 5 gospel songs: Something about the name Jesus: Rance Allen Grateful: Hezekiah Walker Amazing: Ricky Dillard Silent Scream: Daryl Coley Broken but I'm healed: Byron Cage
Not bad at all … I can dig it!🤩 1) God will take care of you: Rev. James Moore 2) Something Good: James Cleveland 3) Hear My Voice : Rance Allen 4) Nu Creature: Mali Music 5) I love to call Him : Vincent Bohanan (for now)
Spot on. Worship should glorify our Creator, never the creation. If the focus is drawn to anything other than Him, then it is not genuine worship. Repetitive singing and chanting is used in many false religions as a way to dull the brain into a submissive and vulnerable state. That is the problem with repetitive lyrics. They are purposely manipulative. Mind numbing, when we are to guard our minds and take every thought captive. Not a preference, but discernment.
I agree again...most songs sung today are mostly "Horizontal"..what can he do for me? blessings, favor, wealth, health..etc... Yes God is after CONGREGATION singing to HIM...not a few ill dressed young adults jumping around on stage and the congregation drowned out by the electronics....terrible...give me simple instrumentation (if need be) and have the congregation sing together in concert, lights up, no smoke machines or rock concert lights!!
I think we are allowing too much latitude by basing spiritual issues on the idea of " preference " what if what I " prefer" comes from my old nature? What if what I " prefer" has no scriptural support? What if what I " prefer" is produced by churches and " performers" who promote false doctrines and worldly lifestyles? The question is notehat I " prefer" the issue is; " what is APPROVED BY GOD?! The issue is; is it spiritual or carnal?
so you admit you go by your feelings. if you dont feel that the Holy Spirit is present, He just isn't? How do you know this? do you hate big churches or something?
It starts with the misuse of the word "worship"; the greatest act of worship is obedience through faith and thanksgiving. Singing to and about Father is AN ACT of worshiping Him, but is a lesser act than the aforementioned.
After being an atheist for most of my 50yrs on this earth it was 3yrs ago I heard Maverick City Music song Mercy and after that I gave my life to Christ and have been seeking the Kingdom ever since
What may or may not be known is that churches have a literal LIST of music that they can choose from (that their music team can play). The church PAYS for the right to use (💰 going to everyone else but not to further the gospel). CCMA & it is an association who has been/will continue to profit & make earthly "stars" out of the runners up of all the TV shows (which Loren Dagle is one that comes to mind). Continue to pray for wisdom & discernment. I find it sad that the church CAN'T sing along (with all the moaning 🤨 either in pain or sensuality). There's no need for that. Yes, David sang/danced before the Lord... 🗝️ words... Before the LORD...Praise God for what He's done for me by sending Jesus (His Son) who willingly gave His life to pay a sin debt I could never pay. ☺️💜✝️💜 Time IS short & this 🌎 is not my home 😊 Heaven Bound, thank you JESUS!☺️
I find this is done often cuz the focus of Christ is gone....many ppl in church keep wanting to have a party like vibe instead of a God Fearing message put out to substain God's ppl especially in the Last Days
I 100% agree, I am a musican and I believe we who play before the Lord must be Holy the words we sing are a declaration unto our God and it's to glorify him and not move our flesh. It's the words that come out of our mouth that should flow from heart, that should be the thing that moves God. I also believe that what we sing should come out of the scriptures and not copied from secular music. God is Holy and we must reflect back to him what he is, HOLY!!!!
When you're deeply feeling the Holy Spirit and suddenly the beat drops at the wrong time and it's not mixed right so it drowns out all of the instruments. :L My church plays a few songs from Bethel, Hillsong and Elevation, but I've not spotted anything overt in the lyrics. I suppose the worship team filters them well. I assume nobody is paying royalties for the use of the songs so I don't mind the bad source if the song is sound itself.
Grew up in the 60s / 70s but love sacred music polyphony and chant. John Taverner (17th Century) wrote the music for "After the Sabbath" Mark 16: 1-2. In English, the verses are: "And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. Alleluia. And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun. Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost." In Latin, the music title is " Dum transisset Sabbatum" "Dum transisset Sabbatum, Maria Magdalene et Maria Jacobi et Salome emerunt aromata, ut venientes ungerent Jesum. Alleluia. Et valde mane una Sabbatorum veniunt ad monumentum orto iam sole. Gloria Patri et Filio et Spiritui Sancto
So may of todays popular secular singers originated in the church (ie..Beyonce, Katy Perry). Absolutely disgusting music. Somethings wrong with the church. They're teaching the kids how to sing, just not what to sing.
Anytime the songs/music and the singers or musicians are elevated over and above The LORD MESSIAH CHRIST JESUS than this a high flying red flag🚩! And just because people sing about things does not mean they practice/do those things (no matter what it is). Most of the music🎶 (and much of it all IS crap) we hear today that has the label of Gospel or Christian does not even mention JESUS' NAME. There are many good songs in the Gospel/Christian category by some sho' nuff sangin' folks but I still have not found clear evidence in the Scriptures that music itself is 'anointed' as so many people tend to say or that music "saves/delivers/heals" anybody. And if the Truth be told, many of us will say that the music got us through situations/things/times when we should have been RIGHTEOUSLY saying that it was The LORD CHRIST MESSIAH JESUS HIMSELF/THE HOLY SPIRIT WHO helped us in our times of NEED and/or sufferings. I believe we misappropriate a lot of things especially things pertaining to The HOLY SPIRIT ~The SPIRIT OF TRUTH! It's like we slight The LORD CHRIST MESSIAH JESUS for the musical talents or showmanship of man. And in many church assemblies there is more emphasis on music and entertainment than on the Word OF HOLY LIVING GOD. If, THE HOLY SPIRIT truly caused a song to be in one's heart than there should be no ambiguity on who is to be praised, exalted and worshipped. But, many have simply used the so called Gospel/Christian musical lane as a way to achieve that bag💰, fame and success (i noticed, too, how many musicians seem to be labeled as 'pastors' even without meeting Biblical criteria). FATHER ALMIGHTY HOLY GOD IS NOT seeking great singers, musicians, bands etc. So, let's NOT trip! The satan😈 has taken masses of people both of the world and in the churches and he's set them up on a high mountain to "serve" him. They even reward themselves for their own VAINGLORIOUS successes! We seem to keep forgetting that IT IS the HOLY SPIRIT WHO does the "drawing"; HE draws us to THE CHRIST...NOT songs, singing, stages, musical instruments, entertainment etc. It really makes you wonder/question ALL of the various things that people claim to be doing for the SAKE OF the HOLY LORD MESSIAH JESUS CHRIST/for THE GOSPEL when they are really the ones being praised and exalted😐. Shalom🕊
This song oceans sung by Hillsong is not a Christian song it is not written by the Holy Spirit it is not about JESUS it is about a water spirit marine spirit worship and so sad to see that millions of Christians still don't get it. Such a pity that discerning the gifts of spirits is so lost in the church and in so-called Christian music.
so you know what songs the Holy Spirit did not inspire and you know what the song means? why not send a letter to the writers and ask them what it means ( hint--there is a youtube video from the very team that wrote the song telling what it means) what the holy heck is a water spirit marine spirit. that's ludicrous. where does the bible talk about various spirits by name like that and why would you know them. people making claims like that are usually on drugs, idiot or in an asylum.
The church music is worldly . It's worldly music. Some of this is taking the place of God. It's just about making money that's all it's about.Not worshiping God. I do listen then I say to myself they are saying anything.
The flagship passages about MUSIC God inspired He tells us in EPHESIANS. "Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;" and COLOSSIANS "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.” GOD NEVER considered "preference" when He penned these truths. Doesn't matter music in the “white church” or the “black church”, or how much the musicians get paid, but God's music is to emphasize the MELODY ("making melody in your hearts"), and not the BEAT and RYTHYM. It is never to emulate the musical styles and genres of the world. It's so important for all of US to know, that music has influence and impact, and that music is never neutral. The devil knows this as he was a chief musician in heaven before he was booted out. So, when he used rock star like Frank Zappa, he spoke through Zappa who said about his very own music “"Rock music is sex. The big beat matches the body’s rhythms”. And even BB King in his autobiography said, “The women reacted with their bodies flowing to a rhythm coming out of my guitar.” Our hymns, psalms and spiritual songs never pattern after ROCK MUSIC or the BLUES or Rap or Holy Hip Hop (there is nothing holy about hip hop) or even Black “Rhythm and Blues”, music we can dance to and slow grind to and clappy happy to and run around the church to and jerk to and twerk to. We are never to worship God in the flesh. We are to worship Him in "spirit and in truth". It is never God's intent to have any of these worldly based genres with trite lyrics merely mentioning the name JESUS and call it WORSHIP and GOSPEL Music. The LORD knew EAXCTLY why He had the writers pen those verses in Ephesians and Colossians. The LORD know these things should be to admonish. His commandments are RIGHTEOUS, and man can DO THEM! He NEVER tempts man to do evil. Problem is, man would rather create his own ways to do music, copying the styles of the wicked. They choose to believe like Bill Gather who said "God speaks through all different kinds of musical styles”. NO, HE DOES NOT! The devil has his style as well and sad to say His demonic styles are adopted by almost all “Christian” artists today, even contemporary Christian music, which in my opinion is the worst of them all.
I don't have a disagreement i wouldn't do that but i think i kinda get what marvin sapp was saying i dont think he was trying to keep a connection but more of if your talking to someone thats like that calling it out is just addressing something they already know u lead with Love and bring them to the father so he can bring that out of them but that will only happen with Love if im just telling u your sinning and u already know, they will tend to pull away although they don't want to.
The lyrics to the songs should always be the one thing that we all agree on. I hate ccm because it’s all about man when worship should always be about Christ. I love me some hymns and doxology, and my current church is all about hymns and I love that because hymns are all about Christ not man. And Corey I agree in heaven the angels are repetitive with their words of worship but come on bruh some of these ccm are doing too much. It’s exactly what Christ rebukes in Matthew 6:7, I know this because of my previous church where the worship words are so repetitive that you’re ready to go to the next verse and chores but they’re stuck on that one part like bruuuuuhhhhh come on, let’s move on already!!!!! It was so stressful. You can see it was all about getting people in their emotions smh.
While it is accurate to correct some of these things - I do think it's too common that more conservative believers call out more liberal ones for not being harsh in an answer when it is just as much of a sin to make a principle harsher (look at what Eve said about God's order to not eat - she exaggerates to looking). We are ordered to not put to great a burden on each other and new believers. Also, even Christ would avoid answering directly when it was wise to do so in the service of a greater good/command/mission. Christ didn't start off with the woman at the well by naming her sin, he engaged with her, sought service from her, and even offered her hope before getting there (similarly with Zacchaeus). I also give these folks room to be humans who are flawed - we still sing David's songs despite his failures (both before and after).
Exactly. Because how do we truly know the person singing is qualified based on certain standards. We don't know what they do after they leave church. So we just shouldnt assume. We all are flawed. So many people sing the same songs. You might feel the anointing from one person singing it and you might not feel it from another and they both could claim to be saved.
i have been composing music for many years before the Lord called me to Him. is it a problem that i compose instrumental music that is not intended for church? thanx
Ian Punnet, an ordained deacon in the (I think) Methodist church said "so much of Christian music is "Jeus is my girlfriend" " A cool way of putting your thoughts into words
what IS the theme of Oceans? Do you know? Did Jesus NOT call you out upon the waters like Peter? Does he not keep you above the waves and the storm? WHY are people so dumb?
It's simple brother... if your worship team is the reason the people are coming or the worship team has more power than or get the crowd more into God then the pastor.. then there is a problem
Preach, preach and preach....many ppl now a days only say they like the music they don't even recall the Word....lol not to mention music goes on longer than the Word now a days
@@msmichelle2196 lol right.. me and my wife have a buddy who's church sings for close to 2 hours with announcements, the 35 min. Of so called preaching
They are not worshippers or praisers but performers! We must worship God in Spirit and in truth and they might sound good but it's not of the Spirit no connection with the Spirit and the desire to be relevant according to world standards....When I come to church I must have his Spirit dwelling in me, I come with my Father's presence because if I'm looking for the praise team to help me to usher into the presence of God, I will be disappointed! You must have your own oil and not try to get oil from someone else!
Cory said no one has come to church to hear the lead or director, but he is wrong. People should come for that but many have told me they come to hear a singer. Maybe if you rephrase that to “people shouldn’t come to church to hear a singer”
People are "supposed" to come to worship God communally with their fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, but in actuality, people come to hear the choir or a specific singer in churches all over the country. I'm out of town on work every other Sunday. I have actually had an elderly woman tell me she wants to hear me sing every time I'm at church. She's gone as far as to text my wife, who is over communications at the church, to get in touch with the minister of music to make sure I'm leading a song whenever I'm in town. I understand my gift is from God, so I always give God the glory whenever someone praises my singing, but I just wanted to let you know that these type of parishioners frequent services every week.
So is it bad to want to hear a specific person sing if they have a beautiful voice? Doesnt mean they are worshipping you per say, but God gave the gift of singing to certain people for a reason.
We have to be careful with the music these days. The enemy is in the airways. Ephesians 2:2 “Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:”
You have to admit that today's contemporary music is reflective of the world. Rock concert. The music is geared to PLEASE the church goer. The messages are often weak.
There are several millions of false professors all throughout the world who are deluded. Matthew 7:13,14,21-23 Matthew 25:1-13. Luke 13: 22-31. 2 Corinthians 11: 5 and following.
How is that any different from the hymn singing days? Whoever could play the piano became the church pianist. No one asked for her theological credentials.
We are all vessels we have to learn how to separate the works of god and the person. If we can’t do that than you might as well get rid of proverbs cause Salomon started worshipping other gods and stop walking with god as he should have. God can use you to reach other people no matter how your lifestyle is and then god will deal with you personally accordingly in due time. “Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’” Matthew 7:22-23 NIV
The Women in my church when I was a little girl made announcements before the preacher gave his word an they went off to Teach Sunday School . That's what I remember as far as a Women leading something in the church .
does the bible say they cant? are you just asking? of course they can. they teach sunday school, they work as church admins, they are on many church councils across denominations and they now preach, teach and are full time pastors and worship leaders. This sounds like the "He-man woman haters club" to me.
@@LSax5631 thanks Liz another preacher also clarified that..Liz ,is the music group Cageless Birds ok? I really love their music and can't seem to find direct link for them being with Bethel but am understanding maybe they are??? Thanks Liz
@@LSax5631 it's a group I watch on CZcams music. Do you have any Christian music groups or artists that are in alignment with the true church and honor God correctly in all ways??? Thanks Liz..
For years, I have discussed this topic as my interpretation of Chinses food. Stop frowning at me. What I mean is that American Chinese food is not authentically Chinses but altered so it is palatable to our American taste--you won't find it in China.. So...when one has dined on this fare, one has not really experienced a culinary truth. So...if "gospel music" has been altered to make it more palatable, has one been authentically fed?
There shouldn't even be an award show for gospel music.. That's part of the problem. Competition falls under idolatry.
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Amen brother I agree 💯 percent! It's supposed to be about ministry not performing!!
I whole heartedly agree, no awards needed… this is all for his glory not mine
They took Christian out of it, now it's just music
No they didnt
😌Yes, they did…now we need to call out who the “they” are…Jesus called them out left & right! Their father is the devil who is the father of lies…😏@zimmoton3698 is “they”.
How so? name some unbiblical songs.
@@cgonzalez1445 you're all that is wrong with christianity. big big mouth and little IQ
Absolute truth, dealing with this is terrible. Especially when churches hire people to play that are not saved, just there for a check … and it absolutely shows😢
Money, money, money
It makes it bad for the ones that are real about their praise. The words should say something to not only you but to the others.
@@user-jv2gg7ht4e when I first became a Christian I thought church was a safe place. No body told me that there are just as many evil people in the church as on the outside. The evil is just not as open. One of those places I learned was church music hides worldly music right in the open. Some church music is just worldly music repackaged.
I learned you still have to keep your guard up. What bothers me does not always bother the next person on the pew. The reverse is also true
Later now in life I am fighting being cinical. Most of church is entertainment. Most church is just fun. A big party. I feel left behind
I learned this some years ago. I met a guy who got hired to play his guitar in a church. I asked him what denomination , he said Catholic but I don’t care I just need a job…I didn’t know what to say after that. Now it makes sense why the church choirs are often changed out nowadays
@@texasbelle333 this is true. I am split on my thoughts. On one hand why does it matter what the beliefs of the musician is? I just need someone to play well. I would dictate what the music is just play the song.
On the other hand the person does bring his beliefs to YOUR fellowship. Even if this person does not verbalize his beliefs they spirit is there so to speak. He would invite other spirits that might just be against what you are trying to do. Music is a huge package of ideas thoughts and even spirits.
💯 sir!!
Discernment is going to be very necessary these days. If you have no relationship with God, you won't know the difference between good and evil. Abide in the Vine.
Hallelujah!
well said
Great analysis Corey over the whole state of modern Christian worship. One thing that makes me sick to my stomach the most is the "me-centered" gospel songs which are typically found in contemporary music. It's like every sentence is me, me, I, I'm, look at me I'm blessed and highly favored. All this and throw in a couple sentences about what God can do and that's it. It should be about reverence for who God is and about Him alone. Remember Hebrews 12:28-29.
I listened to a contemporary worship song once supposedly addressing God. For every pronoun referring to Him (You/Yours) there were three about the singer. (Me/My/I.)
Amen
"I" stand amazed in the presence of Jesus the Nazarene. and wonder how He could love "ME" a sinner condemned unclean.....
The spirit of the world permeates thru so much of today’s “Christian music.” I noticed YEARS ago when I looked on the CD covers of Kirk Franklin (and others) that many of them looked like hard core “gangster rappers” or (in the case of the WHITE “Christian”artists) edgy “rock and rollers.” They had mean expressions on their faces and they looked angry. Some of them even appear to be sad. But when you look at the album covers of Christian artists back in the day (the 70’s and 80’s) they were smiling and looked happy! If you are singing about The Lord Jesus Christ you ought to have a joyful expression on your album cover! But I guess that wouldn’t be COOL these days!
As time progressed fame and fortune took on a whole other meaning
so what to sing then? hymnals, country gospel, bluegrass, gregorian chant? what exactly is holy unto the Lord? My guess is it the exact things you like and approve of , right?
it even worst in christian metal. they have art that look demonic on their covers.
I love it is well but something about a solo singer doing theatrics while wearing stylish clothes in mood lighting screams ‘look at how good I can sing’ as opposed to saying look at how great God is
Nothing makes us switch off our doctrinal discernment like music. Nothing.
Good point, sadly.
your wrong. Jesus never said to sing., and to me, Praying > Music. not even on the same catagory.
I attend a church which is 90% white. We have books we sing from, no lights,drums, or big screen. All the women wear dresses, and men are in suits. We have old fashion church, and I absolutely love it. My Pastor preaches, and not get up there screaming as if we can’t hear.
Praise God! I'd love to know where you are because. sadly, we can't find a bible-teaching church like that around here.
What, no FLYING DRUMMERS?
Why was it important to mention that it is 90% white?
@@stevenlindsey2056Because Christianity is the heart of racism.
@@stevenlindsey2056 it is possibly a culture thing. I was once stationed at a post that had a small town next to it. There was a small church we went to. The church was 2% white. I guess it is all in how you present the data.
Wow! That Kirk Franklin concert kind of looks like Sam Smiths demonic show at the awards
Do you know Kirk Franklin or are you just feeling free to speak against someone you never met?
@Michael-le5ph Yes! I know a lot about Kirk Franklin! Facts not assuming! Do you know Kirk Franklin, or are you just a bored troll!
i dont assume that the things i don't like are demonic. that is absurd. i love how supposed christians LOVE to tear down the things they hate. Let's hope they all reap the whirlwind they sow.
Thank you for this video Brother Corey. I came under conviction about modern praise and worship music about 2 years ago. For myself, I realized that it was not conducive to putting me in a reverent or worshipful state of mind. Each Christian of course will have to search their own heart to see where God leads them. I believe your teachings here will be helpful for those who find themselves in a similar state of confusion where I was 2 years ago.
What’s insane about the Dante bowe thing is there’s non Christians that wouldn’t even wanna see lil nas x perform
Music is mainly used for entertainment and emotional connection. Christian music should be used for conviction and edification.
Either way. All of it brings in emotional connection.
Where does the Bible say anything about Christian music?. We just make stuff up
Give me that old time religion! Good old spirituals and church hymns.
What did Jesus sing? what did Paul sing? THOSE might be holy to the Lord but not music from 1800 years later, right?
Amen I been saying this about the current state of worship music thank you for this!!!🙌🏾
I love anointed music and singing but i would rather have no music if there is no one spiritually qualified to do it. This video was spot on bro!
can anyone meet your standards? anointing is short for "it made me feel good" people have no idea what the bible means by that word.
"You are performing for an audience of one." That's profound!
Thanks! Sound instruction about worship. You are in your element and a watcher of the gospel influences and what is not gospel. WELL DONE.
what does that even mean? see, this is why people leave churches. not because they hate God, but they do hate the mouths of the church people.
One thing I never understood is that when praise and worship is finished the musicians, singers, etc are never around. They put them all in a green room where there is constant talking and no listening to the word.
Lol because majority don't want the Word of God which should prove music is overpowering what Church is about
I knew Kirk was gonna be a THORN in this Topic..i remember his younger years with the Elders they kept him check until he had the spotlight .
I'm only 14 minutes in and I believe I should share my thoughts. I am a born again Christian and a church musician. My belief is that 1) I need to be saved 2) know how to play the instrument 3) live according to the word 4) be doctrinally sound in the word. This being said I set these standards because on stage, I'm an example of praising the Most High.
John 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
Very well stated!
You don’t set standards Christ does. It’s up to us to us to live within Christ Standards. Just because one feels they need to play music in a church or other does not mean that is what Christ wants you to do.
My friend Mike is a contemporary worship leader in a large church. Mike sat by the bedside of his dying mother. She asked him to sing to her as she was dying. He noticed his modernistic music gave her no comfort or assurance. She in fact asked him to sing the old hymns instead. Mike told me that all night they sang the old hymns together until she exhaled her last breath and went home to glory. He told me he learned that night there is an inspiration in the old hymns that is missing in modern music.
Great commentary!
I agree brother. Seems as though in Christian music there is no longer a distinguishing between the holy and the profane. Flesh, carnality on full display. We need to Repent, Return to our first Love Jesus.
Corey, do not touch my song, "thank you Lord" 😂😂😂 that song got me and is getting me through some though times. Thank you Lord for all you've done for meeeee
Money 🤑 💰
Being a Christian drummer (45 years pro) playing in my new church, I am having a really hard time getting into the current Praise music that is playing on KLove and other Christian radio stations. I grew up playing the Praise Maranatha style of music in church, so maybe I'm just too old for this stuff.
Things evolve. It does every generation of people.
You answered your own question on why maybe if the songs you hear bring scriptural references and short form devotional it’s can help your heart and the worship team
I liked this video Corey. As a musician and song writer I can relate to this. Music in the church is a touchy subject for sure. When someone writes a song we really have no idea what their intentions are. I like old hymns but I don't know how they came about. I have listened to other teachings about Christian music and it is confusing? Spencer Smith talks about music alot and he has a guy on his show play Christian songs with a acoustic guitar. I do enjoy it but if he played the same song on an electric guitar they make seem like that is wrong? Or if you add drums to it then it becomes evil somehow. This confuses me. I don't play in a church and currently don't go to church. This saddens me I do still play and write songs at home. I try to write music that talks about the gospel message and Jesus. The thing is someone else could interpret the meaning differently. This makes music a touchy subject. I seen people play in bars on Saturday night and then be playing in church on Sunday morning? I have been in churches when they find out your a musician they want you to play for them no matter what you're situation is. I am sorry to vent here but this is a topic that makes for good subject matter for me. Be blessed peace 🕊️✌️
Strange fire in this case is worshipping the Lord in a way that the Lord has not commanded. It is unknown what exactly they placed in their censors, incense burners, but whatever it was it angered God a lot and the fire literally lashed out and consumed them. God is a consuming fire! Hallelujah
You'd best get you some fire and incense. because that is the only thing mentioned that is not strange fire. I guess we all go to hell then.
LA Mass Choir did "We Exalt Thee" back in 1993 back when black gospel was still about glorifying God andnot what you can get from Him. However, we must realize that the purpose of Christian music is to uplift the those who are already Christians (Eph. 5:19; Col. 3:16). This is where many artists fall short in their efforts. They try to cater their music to the lost, but when lost artists come to Christ they usually do a gospel album full of old school hymns, not the contemporary gospel that is out today.
Hi Cory, i have felt the same way about ccm for along time. I have found better theology in Christian Metal and Christian rap. I would suggest looking into Wolves at the Gate for metal or Shai Linne for theological rap. Amazing stuff from Shai Linne, every album is theologically sound.
The name of that beautiful worshipful song brother Corey talks about at around 32:00 is "Such An Awesome God" by Maverick City Music (featuring Maryanne George). What a transformative song. Almost seems to take you right into His presence. Also, "I/We Exalt Thee" was not written by Bethel Music (thank God!). It's an old song, written by Pete Sanchez back in 1975 (yes, I had to Google that). But we used to sing it in church when I was growing up A LONG time ago, way back in the late-70s and 80s 😂 It's just that it's a personal favorite of mine and, brothers and sisters, we can't let the heretics at Bethel ruin it for a new generation.
They worship themselves
Do they? How do you know that?
I dont have a problem with Christian music regardless of genre that's glorifying God, speaks of people's testimonies on what God did for them because that's still giving him glory, and positive music. I think today some people just have a limited view and think praise and worship looks and behaves the same for everyone. Everyone doesn't even feel the anointing the same. Everyone has a preference and that's fine. Just because some people don't like it doesn't mean it can't reach or touch other people. Many music ministries whether they get paid or not reach the lost and plant the seeds before a church even can. God is reaching people in many ways. Imagine if there was no internet the way it has advanced right now.
If there were no internet, the Word would still be preached, God’s Word doesn’t need the internet, the internet need God’s Word
@@KeKe4Christ My point is more people are reached through it. Just like we are here on CZcams or whatever other platforms. Some people probably wouldn't hear the word or be exposed to it otherwise if they aren't going to church..
@@KeKe4ChristThat's true ... social media is a platform but in reality God Almighty doesn't need anything or anyone for His Work to be done as the Bible says He will even use an animal if humanity won't do it
Sensual and worldly. It reflects a false faith and a bereft theology and understanding of a holy God.
I knew a new age woman who went to modern "gospel" singing churches JUST for the "worship high" she got.
Yeah because music has frequencies and satan played the best music so that's understandable also overtime especially in the black church there seems to be an emphasis on music going on forever and no preaching so ppl get the mindset it's a joke
@@msmichelle2196 racist much?
That’s what I love about the praise team leadings into worship as opposed to the choir whose attention is more on the individual. I grew up in baptist church and the choir unfortunately was the backbone, and people came to hear specific folks sang. The so called minister of music was a homosexual 🫤. They were people worshippers. Music was their idol. I like the worship team method bc they are leading with theological/biblical words that edify and lift God up
I believe the shift really came from idolization of ppls talents....I find that many ministers keep on boasting on ppls talents, success above others and ego gets exalted....when ministers do this they tend to ignore sin in the church for the sake of talent and that is demonic as satan played beautiful music above all so that says it all
It's sad. Many churches make superstars out of their solo singers. And alot of the choirs are nothing more than hipsters that know all the latest moves and dances but don't know the word of GOD. Like Tye Tribbett said, the so called gospel music industry is nothing more than an industry that's driven by money and sales. When you mix money with what is suppose to sacred and revered, it will not stand. We need to get back to hymns that lead us ALL to corporate worship And these songs that mention season, purpose, destiny etc...need to shut down. This is all self glory. Jesus should be held above everything.
Lol exactly many ministers boost ppls egos so then you have a church full of wannabe Beyonce's....the church ignores sin because too many want to be entertained.... music is hyped so much in service and ppl wonder y majority of the church feels anxious, suicidal, depressed...all these things relate to the frequency in music
My top 5 gospel songs:
Something about the name Jesus: Rance Allen
Grateful: Hezekiah Walker
Amazing: Ricky Dillard
Silent Scream: Daryl Coley
Broken but I'm healed: Byron Cage
Not bad at all … I can dig it!🤩
1) God will take care of you: Rev. James Moore
2) Something Good: James Cleveland
3) Hear My Voice : Rance Allen
4) Nu Creature: Mali Music
5) I love to call Him : Vincent Bohanan (for now)
Good points and I am a musician. But I have learned it's about serving God not me showing how well I can play.
I think a huge issue is the existence of praise bands in general. It turns the worship into a concert, and well we all know that is no good.
Spot on. Worship should glorify our Creator, never the creation. If the focus is drawn to anything other than Him, then it is not genuine worship.
Repetitive singing and chanting is used in many false religions as a way to dull the brain into a submissive and vulnerable state. That is the problem with repetitive lyrics. They are purposely manipulative. Mind numbing, when we are to guard our minds and take every thought captive. Not a preference, but discernment.
Name some approved christian music.
Wow! Great video. Who’s the guy singing at the end please?
Its about doing things in order not looking like confusion let Gods spirit guide you if it aint right youll feel it
I agree again...most songs sung today are mostly "Horizontal"..what can he do for me? blessings, favor, wealth, health..etc... Yes God is after CONGREGATION singing to HIM...not a few ill dressed young adults jumping around on stage and the congregation drowned out by the electronics....terrible...give me simple instrumentation (if need be) and have the congregation sing together in concert, lights up, no smoke machines or rock concert lights!!
I'm so sorry but it is so hard for me to go to churches like these even when the preaching may be biblical.
I think we are allowing too much latitude by basing spiritual issues on the idea of " preference " what if what I " prefer" comes from my old nature? What if what I " prefer" has no scriptural support? What if what I " prefer" is produced by churches and " performers" who promote false doctrines and worldly lifestyles? The question is notehat I " prefer" the issue is; " what is APPROVED BY GOD?! The issue is; is it spiritual or carnal?
Was not prepared for lil nas x clip ...o corey now I need to wash my eyes q
It’s all performances, No Holy Spirit anywhere, just music
so you admit you go by your feelings. if you dont feel that the Holy Spirit is present, He just isn't? How do you know this? do you hate big churches or something?
For many, the sanctuary is just a shortcut to the bank. Lord have mercy on us.
It starts with the misuse of the word "worship"; the greatest act of worship is obedience through faith and thanksgiving. Singing to and about Father is AN ACT of worshiping Him, but is a lesser act than the aforementioned.
Agreed.
Bryson Gray
🌈RECLAIM THE RAINBOW
After being an atheist for most of my 50yrs on this earth it was 3yrs ago I heard Maverick City Music song Mercy and after that I gave my life to Christ and have been seeking the Kingdom ever since
PRAISE GOD🙌🏾
I miss choir and old hymns. Anyone could sing in choir. Now you have to try out for the praise team 😢
What may or may not be known is that churches have a literal LIST of music that they can choose from (that their music team can play). The church PAYS for the right to use (💰 going to everyone else but not to further the gospel). CCMA & it is an association who has been/will continue to profit & make earthly "stars" out of the runners up of all the TV shows (which Loren Dagle is one that comes to mind). Continue to pray for wisdom & discernment. I find it sad that the church CAN'T sing along (with all the moaning 🤨 either in pain or sensuality). There's no need for that. Yes, David sang/danced before the Lord... 🗝️ words... Before the LORD...Praise God for what He's done for me by sending Jesus (His Son) who willingly gave His life to pay a sin debt I could never pay. ☺️💜✝️💜 Time IS short & this 🌎 is not my home 😊 Heaven Bound, thank you JESUS!☺️
Our youth has a conference twice a year and the band makes it seem like a concert. But it’s not every Sunday and it’s giving God glory.
I find this is done often cuz the focus of Christ is gone....many ppl in church keep wanting to have a party like vibe instead of a God Fearing message put out to substain God's ppl especially in the Last Days
I 100% agree, I am a musican and I believe we who play before the Lord must be Holy the words we sing are a declaration unto our God and it's to glorify him and not move our flesh. It's the words that come out of our mouth that should flow from heart, that should be the thing that moves God. I also believe that what we sing should come out of the scriptures and not copied from secular music. God is Holy and we must reflect back to him what he is, HOLY!!!!
Holiness should be the marker , it used to be if the person was sanctified.
My humble opinion: I’m 81, so the music is different.The lines are blurred now. Back in the day “Church Music “ was readily recognizable.
Unbelievable!! Marvin Sapp shame on you!! And shame on that guy talking about Jesus like that!
When you're deeply feeling the Holy Spirit and suddenly the beat drops at the wrong time and it's not mixed right so it drowns out all of the instruments. :L
My church plays a few songs from Bethel, Hillsong and Elevation, but I've not spotted anything overt in the lyrics. I suppose the worship team filters them well. I assume nobody is paying royalties for the use of the songs so I don't mind the bad source if the song is sound itself.
Grew up in the 60s / 70s but love sacred music polyphony and chant.
John Taverner (17th Century) wrote the music for "After the Sabbath" Mark 16: 1-2.
In English, the verses are:
"And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James,
and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. Alleluia.
And very early in the morning the first day of the week,
they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost."
In Latin, the music title is " Dum transisset Sabbatum"
"Dum transisset Sabbatum,
Maria Magdalene et Maria Jacobi et Salome emerunt aromata,
ut venientes ungerent Jesum. Alleluia.
Et valde mane una Sabbatorum
veniunt ad monumentum orto iam sole.
Gloria Patri et Filio et Spiritui Sancto
To Loud, Like a Concert.
Especially when music is being played during the Word of God as that is demonic and disturbing
How do you know how loud it was from a video of somewhere you never were?
@@msmichelle2196 it's demonic to play music in the back ground? demonic? good lord, I'm surrounded by fools.
Christ has revealed the endgame that we should worship God in Spirit and in Truth (John 4:24).
So may of todays popular secular singers originated in the church (ie..Beyonce, Katy Perry). Absolutely disgusting music. Somethings wrong with the church. They're teaching the kids how to sing, just not what to sing.
so, what is approved,? blue grass, country gospel, hymns, Bach, Mozart, which music do YOU approve of . I love people that play this game.
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Anytime the songs/music and the singers or musicians are elevated over and above The LORD MESSIAH CHRIST JESUS than this a high flying red flag🚩! And just because people sing about things does not mean they practice/do those things (no matter what it is). Most of the music🎶 (and much of it all IS crap) we hear today that has the label of Gospel or Christian does not even mention JESUS' NAME. There are many good songs in the Gospel/Christian category by some sho' nuff sangin' folks but I still have not found clear evidence in the Scriptures that music itself is 'anointed' as so many people tend to say or that music "saves/delivers/heals" anybody. And if the Truth be told, many of us will say that the music got us through situations/things/times when we should have been RIGHTEOUSLY saying that it was The LORD CHRIST MESSIAH JESUS HIMSELF/THE HOLY SPIRIT WHO helped us in our times of NEED and/or sufferings. I believe we misappropriate a lot of things especially things pertaining to The HOLY SPIRIT ~The SPIRIT OF TRUTH! It's like we slight The LORD CHRIST MESSIAH JESUS for the musical talents or showmanship of man. And in many church assemblies there is more emphasis on music and entertainment than on the Word OF HOLY LIVING GOD. If, THE HOLY SPIRIT truly caused a song to be in one's heart than there should be no ambiguity on who is to be praised, exalted and worshipped. But, many have simply used the so called Gospel/Christian musical lane as a way to achieve that bag💰, fame and success (i noticed, too, how many musicians seem to be labeled as 'pastors' even without meeting Biblical criteria). FATHER ALMIGHTY HOLY GOD IS NOT seeking great singers, musicians, bands etc. So, let's NOT trip! The satan😈 has taken masses of people both of the world and in the churches and he's set them up on a high mountain to "serve" him. They even reward themselves for their own VAINGLORIOUS successes! We seem to keep forgetting that IT IS the HOLY SPIRIT WHO does the "drawing"; HE draws us to THE CHRIST...NOT songs, singing, stages, musical instruments, entertainment etc. It really makes you wonder/question ALL of the various things that people claim to be doing for the SAKE OF the HOLY LORD MESSIAH JESUS CHRIST/for THE GOSPEL when they are really the ones being praised and exalted😐.
Shalom🕊
This song oceans sung by Hillsong is not a Christian song it is not written by the Holy Spirit it is not about JESUS it is about a water spirit marine spirit worship and so sad to see that millions of Christians still don't get it. Such a pity that discerning the gifts of spirits is so lost in the church and in so-called Christian music.
so you know what songs the Holy Spirit did not inspire and you know what the song means? why not send a letter to the writers and ask them what it means ( hint--there is a youtube video from the very team that wrote the song telling what it means) what the holy heck is a water spirit marine spirit. that's ludicrous. where does the bible talk about various spirits by name like that and why would you know them. people making claims like that are usually on drugs, idiot or in an asylum.
32:05 Surprisingly, that's actually a Maverick City song.
The name of the song that you really like is called SUCH AN AWESOME GOD
The church music is worldly
. It's worldly music. Some of this is taking the place of God. It's just about making money that's all it's about.Not worshiping God. I do listen then I say to myself they are saying anything.
The flagship passages about MUSIC God inspired He tells us in EPHESIANS.
"Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;"
and COLOSSIANS
"Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.”
GOD NEVER considered "preference" when He penned these truths.
Doesn't matter music in the “white church” or the “black church”, or how much the musicians get paid, but God's music is to emphasize the MELODY ("making melody in your hearts"), and not the BEAT and RYTHYM. It is never to emulate the musical styles and genres of the world.
It's so important for all of US to know, that music has influence and impact, and that music is never neutral. The devil knows this as he was a chief musician in heaven before he was booted out.
So, when he used rock star like Frank Zappa, he spoke through Zappa who said about his very own music “"Rock music is sex. The big beat matches the body’s rhythms”. And even BB King in his autobiography said, “The women reacted with their bodies flowing to a rhythm coming out of my guitar.”
Our hymns, psalms and spiritual songs never pattern after ROCK MUSIC or the BLUES or Rap or Holy Hip Hop (there is nothing holy about hip hop) or even Black “Rhythm and Blues”, music we can dance to and slow grind to and clappy happy to and run around the church to and jerk to and twerk to. We are never to worship God in the flesh. We are to worship Him in "spirit and in truth". It is never God's intent to have any of these worldly based genres with trite lyrics merely mentioning the name JESUS and call it WORSHIP and GOSPEL Music.
The LORD knew EAXCTLY why He had the writers pen those verses in Ephesians and Colossians. The LORD know these things should be to admonish. His commandments are RIGHTEOUS, and man can DO THEM! He NEVER tempts man to do evil. Problem is, man would rather create his own ways to do music, copying the styles of the wicked. They choose to believe like Bill Gather who said "God speaks through all different kinds of musical styles”. NO, HE DOES NOT! The devil has his style as well and sad to say His demonic styles are adopted by almost all “Christian” artists today, even contemporary Christian music, which in my opinion is the worst of them all.
What happened? I'm waiting for you to start another live???
I don't have a disagreement i wouldn't do that but i think i kinda get what marvin sapp was saying i dont think he was trying to keep a connection but more of if your talking to someone thats like that calling it out is just addressing something they already know u lead with Love and bring them to the father so he can bring that out of them but that will only happen with Love if im just telling u your sinning and u already know, they will tend to pull away although they don't want to.
The lyrics to the songs should always be the one thing that we all agree on. I hate ccm because it’s all about man when worship should always be about Christ. I love me some hymns and doxology, and my current church is all about hymns and I love that because hymns are all about Christ not man.
And Corey I agree in heaven the angels are repetitive with their words of worship but come on bruh some of these ccm are doing too much. It’s exactly what Christ rebukes in Matthew 6:7, I know this because of my previous church where the worship words are so repetitive that you’re ready to go to the next verse and chores but they’re stuck on that one part like bruuuuuhhhhh come on, let’s move on already!!!!! It was so stressful. You can see it was all about getting people in their emotions smh.
While it is accurate to correct some of these things - I do think it's too common that more conservative believers call out more liberal ones for not being harsh in an answer when it is just as much of a sin to make a principle harsher (look at what Eve said about God's order to not eat - she exaggerates to looking). We are ordered to not put to great a burden on each other and new believers. Also, even Christ would avoid answering directly when it was wise to do so in the service of a greater good/command/mission. Christ didn't start off with the woman at the well by naming her sin, he engaged with her, sought service from her, and even offered her hope before getting there (similarly with Zacchaeus). I also give these folks room to be humans who are flawed - we still sing David's songs despite his failures (both before and after).
Exactly. Because how do we truly know the person singing is qualified based on certain standards. We don't know what they do after they leave church. So we just shouldnt assume. We all are flawed. So many people sing the same songs. You might feel the anointing from one person singing it and you might not feel it from another and they both could claim to be saved.
i have been composing music for many years before the Lord called me to Him. is it a problem that i compose instrumental music that is not intended for church?
thanx
No. sure isn't an issue.
Ian Punnet, an ordained deacon in the (I think) Methodist church said "so much of Christian music is "Jeus is my girlfriend" " A cool way of putting your thoughts into words
I especially not mine
The singer sounds like Tamia?
That song "oceans" is used everywhere, in non Christian theme. I don't care for hillsong.
what IS the theme of Oceans? Do you know? Did Jesus NOT call you out upon the waters like Peter? Does he not keep you above the waves and the storm? WHY are people so dumb?
It's simple brother... if your worship team is the reason the people are coming or the worship team has more power than or get the crowd more into God then the pastor.. then there is a problem
YEP!!
Preach, preach and preach....many ppl now a days only say they like the music they don't even recall the Word....lol not to mention music goes on longer than the Word now a days
@@msmichelle2196 lol right.. me and my wife have a buddy who's church sings for close to 2 hours with announcements, the 35 min. Of so called preaching
Who was that singing at the end?
They are not worshippers or praisers but performers! We must worship God in Spirit and in truth and they might sound good but it's not of the Spirit no connection with the Spirit and the desire to be relevant according to world standards....When I come to church I must have his Spirit dwelling in me, I come with my Father's presence because if I'm looking for the praise team to help me to usher into the presence of God, I will be disappointed! You must have your own oil and not try to get oil from someone else!
Cory said no one has come to church to hear the lead or director, but he is wrong. People should come for that but many have told me they come to hear a singer. Maybe if you rephrase that to “people shouldn’t come to church to hear a singer”
Should churches have praise teams?
why not?
People are "supposed" to come to worship God communally with their fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, but in actuality, people come to hear the choir or a specific singer in churches all over the country. I'm out of town on work every other Sunday. I have actually had an elderly woman tell me she wants to hear me sing every time I'm at church. She's gone as far as to text my wife, who is over communications at the church, to get in touch with the minister of music to make sure I'm leading a song whenever I'm in town. I understand my gift is from God, so I always give God the glory whenever someone praises my singing, but I just wanted to let you know that these type of parishioners frequent services every week.
So is it bad to want to hear a specific person sing if they have a beautiful voice? Doesnt mean they are worshipping you per say, but God gave the gift of singing to certain people for a reason.
@@cierrahp9702 she definitely doesn't worship me but it seems like it's more about entertainment for her than worship to God.
We have to be careful with the music these days. The enemy is in the airways.
Ephesians 2:2
“Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:”
Amen ...ppl don't know the Bible, It says satan is the god of this world and prince of the air aka music media etc
You have to admit that today's contemporary music is reflective of the world. Rock concert. The music is geared to PLEASE the church goer. The messages are often weak.
sounds like you are jealous of big churches where people say they love the music. I guess they are all wrong and going to hell.
There are several millions of false professors all throughout the world who are deluded. Matthew 7:13,14,21-23 Matthew 25:1-13. Luke 13: 22-31. 2 Corinthians 11: 5 and following.
How do I become a true Christian?
Now I know why I stopped listening to so called Christian music.
How is that any different from the hymn singing days? Whoever could play the piano became the church pianist. No one asked for her theological credentials.
Don't know who that Dante guy is, but dude is all kinds of suspect.
We are all vessels we have to learn how to separate the works of god and the person. If we can’t do that than you might as well get rid of proverbs cause Salomon started worshipping other gods and stop walking with god as he should have. God can use you to reach other people no matter how your lifestyle is and then god will deal with you personally accordingly in due time. “Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’”
Matthew 7:22-23 NIV
@smartchristians Is it ok for women to 'lead' worship in church?
The Women in my church when I was a little girl made announcements before the preacher gave his word an they went off to Teach Sunday School . That's what I remember as far as a Women leading something in the church .
does the bible say they cant? are you just asking? of course they can. they teach sunday school, they work as church admins, they are on many church councils across denominations and they now preach, teach and are full time pastors and worship leaders. This sounds like the "He-man woman haters club" to me.
I do not believe that Kirk Franklin’s music has ever ministered anyone to CHRIST.
The many people who have been ministered to disagree.
Then you're nuts. COUNTLESS people accepted Christ as a result of Kirk Franklin over the years. You're just stuck in the mud of the hymns only crowd.
What happened to congregational singing? It’s all just a show now
Exactly! The lyrics MUST be Biblical! Not these silly, Jesus is my boyfriend lyrics..🙄
The song Reckless Love taught me who Christ is and brought me to him...
That's wonderful but regarding the lyrics..God's love is NEVER "reckless ". It's intentional, sure, loving.
@@LSax5631 thanks Liz another preacher also clarified that..Liz ,is the music group Cageless Birds ok? I really love their music and can't seem to find direct link for them being with Bethel but am understanding maybe they are??? Thanks Liz
@@Soul-On-Fire-4-Truth sorry Brenda..I have ZERO knowledge who cageless birds are.
@@LSax5631 it's a group I watch on CZcams music. Do you have any Christian music groups or artists that are in alignment with the true church and honor God correctly in all ways??? Thanks Liz..
@brendamaza5464 you may have to seek out older artists. Don Moen, Terry MacAlmon, Ron Kenoly, etc..
For years, I have discussed this topic as my interpretation of Chinses food. Stop frowning at me. What I mean is that American Chinese food is not authentically Chinses but altered so it is palatable to our American taste--you won't find it in China.. So...when one has dined on this fare, one has not really experienced a culinary truth. So...if "gospel music" has been altered to make it more palatable, has one been authentically fed?
Cori how about teach the Bible and let God judge and work on people....