Mahindra XUV700 And Plastic Tailgates: Mythbusting | Safety? Cost? Grades?
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- At the first drive of the Mahindra XUV700, we learnt the SUV uses a plastic tailgate. Of course, the word ‘plastic’ is rarely associated with something positive so rumours about quality, cost-cutting and crash safety competence spread quickly. So we decided to understand the matter with more depth by speaking to experts in the business to separate fact from fiction. In this video, we take a look at the finer details of thermoplastic tailgates and panels as a technology, explore why many car manufacturers now use them and discuss the pros and cons.
The XUV700 itself is off to a strong start with bookings for the first batch of 50,000 cars already snatched up. In fact, the first set of 25,000 cars sold at the introductory pricing found takers in under an hour. Subsequently, prices for the SUV have also been increased by around Rs 50,000. Delivery timelines, however, will vary based on the location/variant/configuration chosen and while the cars have been blocked, owing to ongoing component shortages, deliveries may still take a while.
With prices ranging between Rs 12L and Rs 23L, the XUV700 is available with petrol and diesel engines offered with both, manual and automatic transmissions. The diesel is also available with all-wheel drive and the SUV is sold with 5- and 7-seater configurations.
XUV700: www.zigwheels.com/newcars/Mah...
Contents:
00:00 Plastic Tailgate? Really?
01:02 Is it new technology?
01:54 Steel vs Thermoplastic
02:30 Mahindra XUV700's plastic tailgate
03:07 Wear and Tear?
03:37 Damage Repair?
03:55 How safe is it? - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Mahindra could have promoted it as a feature by saying it comes in much higher priced cars like JLR and Citroën and they a providing it even in base variant. No one would have said a single thing after that. Thannks ZigWheels for this wonderful info.
They did. I don't think anyone even bothered to hear them out unfortunately. I guess it's always more credible to hear it from an unbiased third-party source.
This will indirectly do marketing of jlr and
Citroen
I guess they should be beating the drum like Tata did with the Harrier and the Landrover heritage..
I worked from scratch on this tailgate till car SOP, proud of it 🤩🤩🤩
It will be not covered in the insurance as the plastic is covered only in B2B insurance for the first 5 years. How well the hinges ill perform in long run? Metal is always prefered over plastic because we can repair the metal and plastic we have to change the full panel. The paint will definitely look different in few years than the metal.
@@Gsingh.91 no it will not, it will perform same after many years
If this is your standard quality, I'd surely stick around!
Wow . Good one. Zig wheels doing great. Detailed videos and presentation has improved a lot.
I think Indians need to know that heavier doesn't always mean better and/or safer.
Thank you for the detail.. also could this be part of design R & D for transformation to electric. Lesser weight= higher range
This is the kind of content that gets delivered when there is a background study and research associated. Other review which steered the controversy in the first place tells that, those people did not do their homework properly before giving their "expert comments"! Thank you zigwheel for the informative clarification.
Great work zig wheels 🔥🔥🔥, and thanks for making my all doubt clear 🙏🙏🙏
Great video explanation 👍 and has made the modern concept clear ultimately customer has more safety
This is the topic i was looking for..great job zig wheels👍🏻
This was a well needed educational video. Thanks guys
Good information, in case of any accidental damage metal tail gate to be repaired and re painted, what about plastic, for comprehensive insurance plastic part have set depreciation.
Thanks you Tushar and Zigwheels team. The video is very informative and deep in details. Such a light waiting solutions are the new era for automobile industries and bigest advantage to new trending electric vehicles.
fiber is not that light by the way and brittle too. thermo-plastic are also not good at withstanding higher temp and degrade with time.
Concise, precise and well structured explanation. Thanks for sharing this information. Please post more videos like this.
Don't worry because the entire chassis of k21 ifv is made of thermo plastic which weighs around 25.6 tons.
But that "Tupperware Tank" is only experimental right
@@Orange_390 No it is finalist in Australian land 400 program as Redback ifv and competitor in program to replace Bradley for US. It's body is made of layers consisting of s2 glass fiber reinforced with Al2O3 ceramic and 2519 aluminum alloy. Also it already serves in South Korean Army.
This is good information to know even though feels like a M&M promoted content 😉 but to be serious if all this is really the bits & pieces about thermoplastic components they should be used more often!
Wow Amazing.. All doubts cleared now.... And particularly Tailgate looking beautiful on XUV700.
It will be not covered in the insurance as the plastic is covered only in B2B insurance for the first 5 years. How well the hinges will perform in long run? Metal is always preferred over plastic because we can repair the metal and plastic we have to change the full panel. The paint will definitely look different in few years on plastic than the metal.
Well we are already flying in composite passenger planes and our skies are defended by fighter planes made of composites so if the quality is maintained their shouldn't be any problem. Beside that most of the sports, super and race car use generous amount of composites. And now US military is running a competition to adopt new small arms in which one of the competitors cartridge case is made of mostly of polymer with steel base.
replacements cost are pretty high and no chance of third party repairs
I think you should make more such videos.. 👍
Thank you Tushar sir for clarifying this doubt of mine. Now I will buy Xuv700.
That's some detailed video a nice 3d models !!! Cuddos to zigwheels!
Will this be covered by insurance incase of accident damage???
This video is very helpful thanks zigwheel team for making this video.
Will now surely buy xuv700
I dont think that the design is too complex that cannot be achieved through stamping . Skoda models has too crisp & sharp tail gate designs & i think they still use steel tail gates.
I think they are doing this to reduce overall weight to meet new emissions norms. As per my knowledge xuv700 is 100 kilos lighter than xuv500. For any manufacturer its cheaper to reduce emissions by reducing the weight of the car than spending millions on engine redesign.
Yes, not only does it have other benefits like protection from ageing and overall fuel efficiency, it's also much stronger than sheet metal. If anything, you should be happy and not whining.
Though the 160c melting point for the thermoplastics might seem high for a normal day to day use..in case of a fire, that is a very small number to cross. Any info on the fire safety requirements of a BS6 vehicle..?
Yes, please don’t park near fire or fire your parked vehicle.
Thank you Tushar bhai for the presentation. ☺😊
So tailgate XUV700 is more expensive than metal tailgate.
Good to hear. Or should we use composite taile gate sound expensive.
Thank you Zigwheels team for this myth Buster video 😊 You guys are doing great 🤘
It will be not covered in the insurance as the plastic is covered only in B2B insurance for the first 5 years. How well the hinges ill perform in long run? Metal is always prefered over plastic because we can repair the metal and plastic we have to change the full panel. The paint will definitely look different in few years than the metal.
@@Gsingh.91 lol it'll be fine
@@Gsingh.91 Hello Sujit Have you checked with Insurance Team. It will covered in Zero deb insurance and also now a days companies like AIG & Royal are giving zero dep or B2B insurance for 7to 10 years. Dont worry in Rare case you will required to change tailgate. please post your XUV purchase photo ASap.
Regarding repair it can similary repaired as metal or bumper for small dents and paint damage. For color matching it will be dealer or service station job to match color. same as bumper color matching. Hope your query addressed.
Can I fix an electric power system to the tailgate of either the xuv 500 or the 700?
thanks for this clear explanation
Its a simple technique cost cutting method...Rear fascia in buses are of FRP. Now the same has been done with XUV 700 cost cutting
Tail Gate is made of plastic because it help in improved Radar set up when car needs 360 degree situational awareness..
If any one think plastics is a weak material in terms of metal then it's is because they are not aware of modern.material science .
it is custom make to have flexural modulus (stiffness) from < 1000 MPA to 10000 MPA> based on users custom made requirements..
In fact whole Dream liner fussilage and interior is made from composite carbon and polyester resins . COMPOSITE Fibre which comes from a plastics family .
Plastics inhibit extreme durability and weathering resistance due to unique chemistry.
I book this car
04:47 but we are paid by Mahindra for this video....
Exactly
lol....video title was enough to let u know it was paid.
What about insurance claims in case of an accident.
I like your sense of humour
The new isuzu mux also using a plastic tailgate.
Many people might not know that the new Creta also has fibre tailgate, but it was not advertised as such (As far as I know.)
Thanks Guys .
Thank you for the info
Good information
Thanks for the information ZigWheels......
mahindra is going worldclass
Good job zigwheels!!
Metal sheets can be brought back to shape once dented but plastics need to be replaced completely once broken.
Smily faces in primary school exams 😂😂🤣
thank you Mahindra ❤️
Thanks for sharing 😃
I think they are doing this to reduce overall weight to meet new emissions norms. As per my knowledge xuv700 is 100 kilos lighter than xuv500. For any manufacturer its cheaper to reduce emissions by reducing the weight of the car than spending millions on engine redesign.
You didn't mention one very important aspect. Insurance coverage on plastic parts!
Wow finally
The last doubt regarding xuv700
Thermoplastic body has same DNA as carbon fibre body in automobile sector ? @Zigwheels
Nope
Hell no.
It's closer to fibreglass. Carbon fibre is also plastic, but the reinforcement is provided by carbon strands. Here, glass does the work. The panel you see on the outside though is mostly just the skin. The structure is underneath
Best info that could be provided.
They are safer also???
Yes
Oki
nai bhai tumne ye nai bataya ki piche se truck maregi to metal tailgate se jaan bach sakti hai ya is plastic gate se.
Debanjan samanta this tailgate is 3×stronger than steel tailgate
@@samarwaje8895 nai bhai aaisa nai bataya
@@debanjansamanta9293 sense less ho kya bhai company me kuch soch ke hi dala na tailgate 5 star hi rahegi safety me 2 accident bhi aa gaye back tailgate ke check kyo nahi kar leta
@@Rohanhjai lodu kuch bhi bolega...safety rating global ncap ka aaya nai.....kuch soch ke hi maruti ka plastic cars le lena jake tab....
Try using "polymer" instead.
What about safety
V3 pilot 3×stronger than steel tailgate
So if I go according to you then plastic tailgates are safer than metal tailgates 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Super comment👍 😀
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Whatever plastic is weaker than steel
They could have simply put a metal tailgate and rule out one reason for the buyer to be worried of, even if there is a simpler design with the metal one
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Best way to know the durability that a back hit by harrier to xuv tail gate and let's see how passengers will remain safe who are seating in 3rd row
your comment is why education is important 🤣
Still a hard pill to swallow.
You can’t drive around a broken plastic but a dented part can be.
Steel can be dented but it can be painted and damage can be hidden to some level. Plastic need replacement.
Screwed in plastic get loose sooner ans rattles but in metal it can be thread tight.
XUV 500 interior has rattle issues. As I have no doubt that 700 will rattle more.
But I guess time will tell
फिर तो Buldozer, crane, tank, tractor truck, हातोडा, mining instrument, stone cutter, सब plastic के होने चाहिए।
क्यूंकी महिंद्रा का कहना है की ये प्लास्टिक लोहे से मजबूत है।
other car brands have also pulled such designs using metals....as per me its cost cutting....this video is to convince potential buyer that there is nothing wrong with plastic tailgate...lol
How did you get to know that plastic omnium is the manufacturer of Tail gate for XUV 700 ??? You’re clearly sponsored by Mahnindra & Mahindra don’t lie. We can read between the lines and we know what’s happening behind the curtains. If plastic was so expensive to make then rolls Royce would’ve made its body out of plastic. While other manufacturers such as VW and Tata are made of complete raw steel, this Mahindra is made of plastic. I don’t agree to the point . Okay, the big question is What is the kerb weight of XUV 700 then ? No one is disclosing this information about its weight. Hey people be wise don’t spend your hard earned money on plastic junk, go for Tata or VW they give you solid metal. In case of a crash if your tailgate is metal, it will absorb the impact and deform due to its tensile strength, in case of plastic, it will be destroyed completely. And all those luxury cars you mentioned like LR, Jaguar, Citroen all these cars are rated worst for their quality in Europe. Do your research first before giving us facts.
very true.....everyone is amazed how xuv700 priced....but believe me this car has hi lvl of cost cutting...it lacks premium Ness.
@@rea8572 exactly
Go for safari adventure persona, robust and sturdy build car, with very good material quality on both interior and exterior....
Arey bewakoof usne bola na plastic ke peeche metal hai?
Lol JLR cars are rated worst for their build quality😂😂😂😂
Bro i also need the weed you smokin
now it will be called plastic ka dabba, bad for environment
I drove it. Really felt kinda cheap overall, the plastics, interface the general feel in the cabin etc. No offense to anyone here though...
What if crashed 🤣
How hard you're trying to cover Mahindra.. seems a paid research to me..
Why dont just buid a plastic car then ?? 😅
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If it is too good then auto makers should consider it for the whole structure of the car 😏
Paid, sponsored, false content, wrong information etc etc. Just skip this one