Miniature Painting with Oils - Three Basic Techniques, One I learned from Bob Ross!
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Howdy Folks! Here is an overview video that covers a handful of useful oil painting techniques! If you guys like what you see here, make sure to check out the website! grimdarkcompendium.com/product-category/membership-levels/
I was having a hard time getting my hands on enamel thinners and when i watched this, ordered some oils. Can’t wait to try them out!
Small tip, if you already have artists oils. You can remove some of the linseed oil by mixing it some on a piece of regular white printer paper before you use it. It will suck it out like a blotter.
Clear, well paced and well chosen, good camera work, you are light years ahead of the competition, a natural teacher. Maybe more time to see the finished model to see how it fits together as a whole? Maybe there isn’t time enough to do that here.
Gotta go, grimdark next stop. Thanks mr Zat, you are very inspiring.
Thank you! Once I get all the techniques and applications explained I'll do a couple of long, in depth tutorials that show all the steps combined.
Just started with using oils on my minis but this is a whole other level, love it as a tutorial and hopefully help me expand on oils and its use.
wow......this tutorial is insane, thank you.
Great work, I have started using oil washes recently but now I will be trying this for my Imperial Fists!
Again, an amazing video! You always inspire me to try out new techniques and really get out of my comfort zone.
Appreciate it! Thank you for the feedback!
Brilliant video - thanks! Ordered the Abteilung Vehicle weathering set and cant wait to get cracking.
Oils are really the ultimate artist medium, sure acrylic is good, they all have their own strengths, but most true blue, artists like their oils, for reasons you mentioned, and then some.
True!
Amazing! Just stunning results. Loved it.
Appreciate you! Ty, ty!
Possibly the best painting video I’ve seen,excellent!
Great video i will deffinitly try these techniques. I used oils befor on my minis but only as a wash!
If you want to control the linseed oil amounts in your oil paint tube, simply apply a bead or nut of paint onto newspaper or brown paper, and allow the linseed to bleed out through capillary action. Then use a palette knife to scrape the now denser paint onto a palette. Viola!
Thats extra work, that most people dont want to do unfortunately. Even in the comments somebody is claiming cheap oils from walmart ruined their model😩?... only difference between 501 and cheap oils is the gimmicky marketing and the price jack. My mother is a traditional oil painter on canvas seen her use many brand's over the years without 1 complaint.
@@vasili1207 Not always. True that the chemicals that make up Ultramarine blue, and Bone black are the same, but reds and yellows are another matter. They are the weakest link when it comes to archival colours. They look the same between cheap and quality, but they do not age the same. I should know, I am a fine art oil painter.
@@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork yeah obviously if you are a artist "proper" artist you want to your art to last... in the figure painting world i am sure a good 30 years is enough before colour fasting. I was just trying to point out that oils cannot ruin the figures .... its totally removable. And like you pointed out pop your paint on cardboard a hour before painting and boom... winner winner chicken dinner. 👍
@@vasili1207 Totally. I agree. Tho 30 years is a long time for paint to 'turn'. More like 1 to 5 years in my experience. Alizarin Crimson PR83, is notorious for this. I make my own paint pigments in the studio, so I learned quite a bit on this subject. It might be good to use a chemical dryer for oil paint, to help it along, such as Pebeo Siccatif. Because of the small paint amounts involved, dip the brush into a decanted cap of siccatif, then use the brush on paint.
Thanks for this video. Had not thought of using oils but the techniques look simple and I like the idea of shifting the hue easily.
Appreciate it! Yep it so very easy.
If you don't have dedicated model oils you can use standard artist's oils; just place a blob of each colour you are going to use on an absorbent surface like cardboard, then leave it sit there for a few hours to let the linseed oil wick out. You'll notice a dark stain starting to appear around the blob, and after a while the blob will start to lose its shine. You can then transfer the blob to a non-absorbent surface like glass and use it as normal.
Great way to burn your house down. Linseed oil is exothermic as it cures. It can ignite.
This is fantastic! Thank you for the tutorial.
Hey man I really enjoyed this. I use oils a lot and seeing you using them in this way makes me realize how dogmatic I was being in their usage. Thanks for reminding me how great they can be.
That introductory explanation on oils has finally helped me understand why oils look so different from acrylic paints. I knew they did, and I could see from your videos and other people's painting that oils were good at achieving that 'grimdark' painting aesthetic, but I just didn't know how.
Also, having seen how simple the brush base colour technique is, I'm seriously questioning why oils aren't the go-to for beginners. You seem to get good-looking results soooo much easier than you do with acrylic paint, which I think requires the painter to be much more precise with the paint application.
A big part I think is that acrylics are easier to handle, and to clean up. Oils dry slooooowly in comparison (hours to days, in the thinness you'll be working with for miniatures). Traditional oils also require some nasty solvents to clean, and accidentally touching the model with a stray finger can make a big mess. Oils are amazing, but they're also a big mental confidence leap, from acrylics.
Oils are great for beginners (they are easier to paint with) but they are not great for painting casually (they need a lot of prep).
Even acrylics seem to be too difficult to handle for many people. I see a lot of beginners leaving their brushes with paint in the brushes just sitting, destroying them completely while going to the toilet or just sipping coffee or talking. 😮 It really shouldn't be hard to take good care of your painting equipment but apparently it's too hard for many. Poor brushes 😢
Thank you, this is a good video. Not just for technique, for attitude too.
Hey! Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate it!
You just Bob Ross'd us so hard.
Haha. I did.
A happy little pustule over here, and a happy little pustule over there. Every pustule needs a little buddy pustule... There, that makes papa Nurgle happy now, doesn't it? ;)
This is godlike. Thank you
Instant subscription, this is absolutely outstanding.
Thank you! I appreciate it!!
Another fantastic video!
Thank ya!
Fantastic technique 👍🏼
Thanks!
It is really good 👌🏻
Thanks, Angel. Big fan of your work!
@@GrimdarkCompendium thanks bro, you videos are really AWESOME; BIG FAN mate :)
Excellent video subscribed 🙌
I'm going to throw you a curve ball, pls can you try a grimdark harlequin 🤞
🔥
Great video a bona-fide primer on oil painting techniques thank you for sharing
Ty 😊
This popped up in my "Hey watch this" and daggone I'm glad I did. I feel like I need a shopping list to update my hobby kit to start working with oils 😅
Abteilung oils are great! But you can still put some artists oils (like Windsor Newton Winton) on a piece of cardboard and wait a few hours for the lindseed oil to leech out.
great vid mate! we bought your lady olinder vid and it was great!
Awesome! Thank you!
You are the reason why my minis are drying for days now, and my apartment has a scent of oils and white spirit all over it. It's your fault! And I love it! ;P
Haha. Appreciate it!
Holy shit! This video is awesome gotta check out your page. Thank you so much.
This is becoming one of my favorite channels. I'm seeing new techniques applied that I've never seen or done before. Exciting stuff!!
Awesome video - going to use some grimdark on my new chaos knight box set i purchased . When in this process would you paint the metal trim of the armour panels ?
Hey man, great video do you have a video how you got to this stage? IE the weathering
Ive always used water based oils on minis but it takes FOREVER to dry, so its like paint em and put em on a shelf for a week or two, I will have to try abteilung ...I like their dark pallete schemes makes everything more natural instead of an uber pink red armor or a blazing purple tank lol.
Soooo cool, definitely gonna try this style of painting, do you use any special stuff to clean your airbrush when you use streaking grime and rust streaks, or will regular airbrush cleaner work?
Use .mineral spirits to clean up after oils and enamels.
Hi. Fantastic video. Can you tell me please, is it OK to use tamiya clear to seal the oils? Thank you.
Awesome tutorial thanks for sharing!! There is just one detail I don’t understand, when you strike the paint put randomly over the pieces, are you using a specific kind of brush? Is it completely dry? I mean, it looks like a sort of “dry brush” technique but with the color already on the mini and the results of the feathering are awesome.
I’d like to use this technique to shade the white/cream parts of my Black Templars to give them a really grim dark look; atm I’m using citadel washes but they pool and it’s difficult to create a perfect transition between agrax e wraithbone
I love your tutorials man! awesome work! i just bought some paints from ur website to show my support! keep up the great work! I do have a question however, do i have to add water to the AK rust streaks, streaking grimes and chipping medium if i use an airbrush? like 1:1 ratio?? I cant wait to try out these paints! ty ty!
Hey thanks!! We will process that order and get it out to you asap.
You are going to want to use mineral spirits or white spirits to thin enamels and oils. Usually it takes a very small amount of thinner if any at all. Most times I do not use thinner unless the bottle of enamel has been used a lot.
Most chipping fluids are acrylic based so you use water for those.
Awesome as always. Would you always do this over a flat layer?
Yeah, I tend to do this to all of my base coats. It's so fast to do and adds so much interest.
Amazing video! Giving me inspiration 2 experiment with oilpants thanks. What you favorite realistic gold and metallic acrylic paints?
Vallejo Metals are awesome
Happy little tree from Bob Ross. Talk in a calming soft voice while painting. Have an Afro.
Lol
Been enjoying your tutorials. Was wondering what you used for the gold trim on that armor panel ( blue one ) , thanks!
Looks like any high quality gold true metallic paint will do and he applid some sort of copper/brass oxide (nihilakh oxide by citadel looks similar) and on top a dark brown to similate old rust
Your are a excellent teacher, thank you so much.... your Upstate New York Fan.... 😀
Ty, ty! I appreciate you!
Great video.Very interested in starting with oil paints by seeing this video.Which colors would be recommended to start out with,there are so many. should i buy individual colors or the abteilung 502 sets of oil paints?
Awww yisss
Bob Ross is a fricken legend
You should mention how dangerous is spraying things like white spirits and heavy metals. You don't want cadmiums and cobalts in your lungs either, and those are common pigments (and expensive😂) in oil paints...
I like too much your style.. And your videos..I see From Spain.. Please one day paint my dears fallen angel..
Thank you! I appreciate your kind words.
Any matt varnish you can recommend that also can be put through an airbrush?
I would absolutely love to see a grim-dark painting of a Lord of Contagion. I'm rather new to painting (been painting for around a year), and I'm starting to push away from the.. "Duncan tutorials" and want to explore more techniques. My Lord of Contagion is by far my most prized paint job thus far, and I'd love to see one painted in a very gritty, dark fashion!
Streaking grim through an airbrush is incredible at making deathguard look completely shit
do you find you can batch paint with these techniques or do you need to keep working one model at a time so the oil is wet whilst painting?
Hi, quick question, can You use this blue technic with decals on? If yes, when You need to put them on the model?
Thank you for the video man. How are you sealing your oils with varnish? I mean what exact varnish etc.
Use Abteilung502, wait 24 hours, seal with Ak interactice untra matte or liquitex matte
Will windsor and newton suffice if thats all I have access to? waiting longer to dry isnt a problem for me as long as its not a week, and can I safely use a hairdryer to speed up drying or is that not recommended?
What's that lovely green that was used?
Great video. I would like to learn more about the process and colors that you have used for the Green knight leg please. What would be the best place for that? Grimdarkcompendium or your patreon? Or maybe they are the same ? Thanks a lot
Hey, thank you! I personally feel that the Grimdark Compendium is the best platform and believe others would attest to that but I do have patreon available for people that prefer it. The content is indeed the same on either platform.
Fantastic stuff! What brushes do you use?
Inexpensive Royal and Langnickel brushes. A set of The Golden Talkons and a Set of the Camel Hair Brushes.
how would these effects work on a black vehicle, say a Legio Mortis Titan?
Because you work a lot with color modulation and making the darkest parts darker, but how about black armor surfaces, where everything is kinda at its darkest already?
Do I focus on the light instead?
Do you let your oils cure completely in between each stage? IE do you leave the piece for 2-3 days before coming back after applying the blending coat?
I tried using cheap walmart oils for some of the techniques ive seen in your vids it didnt go well. Thanks for explaining. Guess ill have to spring for the good stuff. Is there a starter set or group of colors you recommend for beginers ?
There are a few sets you can choose from or just pick some dirt, dust, rust, or mud colors. Just start with ones that appeals to you and start experimenting, there is no wrong way to start! grimdarkcompendium.com/product-category/oil-paints/
What gold did you use for the blue one?
I know I'm asking this like 4 years later, but how do you approach using oils in a mottling/filter with transfers? Would you do the initial mottling, matte varnish, then apply the decals and end with the more subtle mottling effects? Or would you apply your base acrylic first, apply your transfers and then do the entirety of your mottling/filter work? I'm a bit confused
How long to you dry before using the Varnish?
Wilder modelling oils are also great for this purpose, I use both Abteilung and Wilder.
Ah yes. I have heard of Wilder but havent used them just yet. I'll check them out now.
One thing I like about them over Abteilung is that they have plastic tubes. Just a little easier to handle.
I know you mentioned using a varnish. Is there one you recommend? I’m assuming one that dries matte?
Yes. I'm actually starting to prefer liquitex over all others
Cuanto tiempo dejas se secar el óleo luego de la primera aplicación para remarcar los paneles?. He intentado hacer esta técnica y cuando difumino en el instante termino es quitando lo que agregué para remarcar el panel inicialmente. Tengo esa confusión..
I’ve looked around, but what colors would you recommend for gold trim?
I like the True Metals. Check out my Khorne videonon youtube.
When you are feathering the oils, what are you using to blend that? White spirits? Linseed oil?
Apply and feather each layer using a soft brush. No thinners needed.
When you seal the first layer of oils (17:10), do you use Acrylic Varnish or Enamel Varnish?
You can use either. In this particular example I used acrylic
I’m a bit confused: do you work before the initial blending layer is dry?
Also, you never had issues using an acrylic varnish on oil? I understand these dry fast, but isn’t there still a long during time?
You can do acrylic over oil just fine. Just give it a decent amount of time to dry.
It would have been very helpful if you covered 'what' exact sealer(s) you use. There are so many to choose from it is hard to decide what to choose. Thanks.
Ak ultra matte is a good. Anything really will work.
@@GrimdarkCompendium Hey thanks very much..! I'm just getting back into serious modelling after a decade away. The advances in technique are exciting and even staggering...!
Awsome that, as I, you were inspired by Bob Ross job !
I think i was alone
Watching Bob Ross is a daily occurrence in the Goon household!
mmm wet 'n slick
What metallic paint was used for the trim on the blue armor plate? Looks great
True metal: Copper, Gold, and Brass.
@@GrimdarkCompendium thanks! ill have to try that out
Which red are you using in the blue plate example? Red Primer? Warm Red?
Red primer
Appreciate the clarification!
This might not get a response sense this video is 3 years old but i am curious nonetheless. Is spraying oil paints through an airbrush safe? I've read how white spirits can be dangerous to inhale in general so running it through an airbrush sounds risky. I want to try this method out but am worried about this.
they look real. I've seen those in museums.
Appreciate that!!
You should post links to the tools and paints you use in the video description!
Amazing video as always!
Btw. "Abteilung" is pronounced more like arb-thai-loong (yeah I have no idea how real phonetic writing is supposed to look like :D ) and it means "division" (in military terms) in german :).
bob ross is the man
Where can I buy this brand of oil paint in the US
Michigan toy soldier carries it
airbrush - does this mean that airbrush is now to be used for oils only? no more acrylics?
Is the only problem with artists grade oils their drying time, and if so, could you use proper medium to speed it up?
Yes. I'm not familiar with any of the additives used with artist grade oils, but im sure there is something that speeds up drying.
@@GrimdarkCompendiumI know there are a number of mediums that can greatly reduce drying times for oils, but I wasn't sure if there were other considerations. Thank you very much for your quick reply.
I've been binge watching ya boi, Bob Ross, due to CCP related reasons, and have become infatuated with oil paints. They look way more forgiving than acrylics.
You cannot put an acrylic varnish over oil paint. It will peel off.
Incorrect.
Nice results but there is too much "how to drawn and Owl" going on for a demonstration.
Sometimes I feel the same way. Once I cover all the individual techniques and applications I'll do some longer videos that cover all the steps from start to finish.
You sir are the Bob Ross of miniature painting. Do you have an art background or is this all picked up from your love of mini painting?
I've been dabbling in art since a young age. No formal education. I like to develop and learn new techniques as I go.
Oh wow you actually answered! Could I ask one more question? I’m having difficulties getting my streaking grime to come off as cleanly as yours does with mineral spirits. The mineral spirits itself is a milky white color and doesn’t take off the grime as it does when you do it. Any suggestions? Should the mineral spirits be colorless, did I get the wrong one maybe?
@@St1ngray you will want an odorless mineral spirits. It should be clear. The milky white mineral spirits is not suitable for miniature painting.
@@GrimdarkCompendium Hey thanks so much I really appreciate it! Can't wait for the next video sir!
I guess oil paints are more durable than acrylic paint
Love oils but they take way too god damn long
Use Abteilung502!
It bugs me that you paint so well but are so lax in getting rid of mould lines and filling gaps
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