Referred Pain Explained
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
- Enroll in our online course: bit.ly/PTMSK Visceral and somatic referred pain are phenomena frequently encountered in musculoskeletal practice. This video explains the neurophysiology behind it.
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this is by far the only video that actually explains the convergence projection theory.
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I have been left with pain around the fibular head after a herniation... Comes and goes. The doc said it can't be radicular pain, since the MRI showed the herniation is gone and the nerve no longer compressed.
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Does it difference from the scleratome?
Great video as always! Just for clarification; are you saying that both areas with lower and higher density 1st order neurons are being activated by noxious stimuli and then the brain projects to the higher density area? or are you saying that when the a low density area such as at the spine is activated by noxious stimuli the brain will then project to an area that has a higher density of first order neurons that share the same dorsal root such as at the leg? Thanks!
The latter
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If a nerve on the outer thigh is compressed can it cause pain on the inner thigh and not the site of the compression?
could you also do a video on Psychosomatic and Neuropathic Pain (imo related)? And a german "translation" would be nice :) (i know that you guys are german)
Different pain categories are certainly on our list.
We just don't have enough time to translate our videos to german, which is why we are asking our followers to help with the translations.
Psychosomatic pain is imaginary pain, why do you need a video about it 😂 there's no science behind it...
Imaginary pain sounds like the pain experience is not real. There is actually science behind it. Think you gave us another reason to make such a video!;)
Thanks for this video. I am having a difficult time understanding this concept and it is a part of my assignment. You said that referred pains do not follow a dermatomal distribution, and even the sclerotomal one is not definitive. Does this mean that referred pains cannot be explained by embryological developments leading to adult anatomy?
Yeah,kind of...
There are many theories for referred pain,including dermatomal theory,convergence theory,etc.
Referred pain could also occur by misleading of receptors carrying cutaneous sensory info,but were supposed to carry info from viscera,it can also occur due to learning and experience related with pain
I don't understand how you can feel pain in the neck referred from the heart if referred pain can only be proximal to distal. I'm very confused by this topic. Any help would be great! Thank you!!!
I’m searching for answer why I am feeling pain in my toes whenever my baby latches when breastfeeding and ai noticed that this pain occurs when my nipples are being touched. I am struggling with the pain and it’s kinda weird. Pain is felt on the sa,e side of the body, left to left toes. Is this a referred pain? I want to get answer. Btw, i gave birth via cesarean. Im thinking that some nerve was damaged? Hope not.
What about pain in a phantom limb?
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If the pain is sent distal, where there are more nociceptive fibers, wouldn't that be considered neuropathic pain? It might not be following a peripheral nerve, but nervous tissue is still the culprit.
what structures have high concentration of nociceptors then?
hands, fingers, lips, tongue etc. a good visual is the: homunculus
Hello. Is it normal to have referred pain after passing a kidney stone? Thank u so much!
If the kidney stone is removed, referred pain should be gone as well
Thank you! But why does my lower back is still in pain even if the stone is gone?
Correction: first order neurons are pseudounipolar neurons whose cell bodies are in dorsal root ganglion... The diagram shown in the video doesn't depict that
The visceral referred pain concept explained here doesn't quite make sense to me. You said it refers as somatic pain on the same segmental level yet the heart at t1-5 felt in the jaw, innervated by the facial nerve? Not sure I quite get it
"leading theory" aka no one is 100% sure of the exact mechanism
Give solution this pain
Treating the source of nociception and not the site of referred pain.
I think I'm dumb I didn't understand this
Any specific part we can help with?
Myofascial pain syndrome is the most common cause of chronic pain. Most common. The most common.
Most physical therapists dont know much about pain
Did you roll up your sleeves to flex your muscles?
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Watched this due to my back pain and now I have headache pain.
are you German?
yes we are both German
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