This is pretty good level design. The 3D sections really show how bad the original physics are though. Perhaps if they modded in some new physics to make the acceleration more smooth. That would be great.
I don't know what everyone else is talking about. This is a much better reimagined mod. Nothing looked out of place like a giant platform with spikes covering.
I don’t really like the 3D parts of this mod. It’s still a hallway but it tries to add more platforms and obstacles, which makes it feel like sonic dash. And sonic forces physics doesn’t really fit a bunch of platforming. But I do like the 2D sections since the top path really rewards you and more general pathways in a level is great.
You're entirely right, but I'm just happy to do something besides hold Boost when in 3D. Sonic Dash may just be Sonic Dash, but it's more interesting than vanilla Forces.
Level design is looking far better than those “improvement” mods that just plastered spikes and walls everywhere to make blockier platforming. Still, before I can truly call this reimagined, I'd think it would need more on the level of Network Terminal and Guardian Rock.
@@ultaedits5751 me too, my parents got it when it was released and I remembered not liking it, thats right when I wasn't even a sonic fan, I still didn't like forces
I collected every collectible because I was certain that I had only seen 60% of the game and that collecting everything would get me a true ending that explained where Infinite went off to, or something. I got a couple gimmicky challenge levels and avatar parts. Never been the same since. Felt like it was just yesterday.
Putting random roadblocks to jump over doesn't make the level better, but overall it seems more enjoyable than the original press foward to win system.
@ArtBuffalo There's an improved control mod that I like to use while playing reimagined, and several of the levels have had full on terrain extensions making them generations length, such as Guardian Rock, Iron Fortress and Network Terminal!
I mean, that's what Modern Sonic has been about since SA1... Sure, a few pathways here and there, but they all come together in less than 10 seconds after you took them. The fact that you had more control to jump out anytime didn't change the main gameplay. Adding more interacteability helps break down that hold boost to win formula, but it's known that to make Sonic work in 3D it needs to have a set path to follow as it's just too fast for us to make decisions if not done properly.
I still don't know why Sonic wouldn't be the leader of the Resistance. He's the only one that ever actually does jack shit. Knuckles can't even sit still guarding the Master Emerald anymore.
@@multixloves3072 That was honestly a stupid writing decision on their part. I mostly mean, when he got back, why wasn't HE the leader of the resistance?
@@Flashguy4826 it is because of sonic always going everywhere on his own but also how Sonic doesn't like to stick around and lead something of this size
@@makotoyuki345 People don't notice the changes in revamps as their brains were usually shut off while they were playing. If you compared this and the base level side by side you would see that there are some really great level design improvements
@karrin Eh. Heroes was ok. solid shit streak from 2005 - 2009 with Shadow, '06, Secret rings, and black knight. Unleashed, Colors, and Generations were pretty good. lost world was ok. Sonic Mania is probably the best sonic game since SA2.
i feel like you can’t make this game good without tweaking the physics. even with added obstacles and pathways, everything still just feels like a hallway. sonic controls like absolute ass in this game so there’s really not much to work with unless you fundamentally change it.
Yeah, from Sonic Generations's physics to this, is a massive downgrade in gameplay. It's a different engine i know, but there's a lot that needed to be tweaked in here for this to feel nice.
Way better than the mods claiming to have improved the level by putting spikes and hordes of enemies in the middle of nowhere. 3D parts can still have some more improvement because all i see it just a linear straight path with some high and lows. I can think of making so much more open space or some curved pathways. But i like the idea of risky faster path vs safer slower path in the level design. but when everything just looked like a straight hallway with no corners or turns, everything starts to get stale because you only look at one direction. I like the original stage designs like the 3D parts for Guardian Rock, really adds to the stage. 2D and 2.5D parts are a massive improvement, higher path is harder to get but faster, lower path is easier but slower and the pathing between the two path overlaps a lot of time giving chances to recover bad runs, and is a lot better to look at. Also the added platforming elements in 2.5D adds in to the design of the stage overall. I like it, it improves upon what Forces could've done, and it is done well. I don't like the design choice of some parts, like in Lost Valley, around the end, in 3D there's a cliff with nothing on the sides and there's a hole below it but you're forced to slide under it and you can't go around it. It's better to make a rubble obstacle you can sidestep around or something of the sort instead of the stray random cliff out of nowhere that you can clearly go around from. Also it's still pretty short for the most part, 2 minute clear with mistakes here and there? Even Sonic Generations isn't that fast. It's just reaaaalllly short it's dissapointing because there could just be more stuff in there.
@draft draft colors is just long empty hallways and more blocky platforming, and while forces feels worse, it does attempt to fill up the hallways... Though I have to admit, colors is definitely more fun
@@SoniaSpectrum Seriously, your points in this argument are trash. Yes, Colors has issues but Forces has pretty much every one of its issue amplified combined with overall worse feeling gameplay.
@@j-meister3284 for modern I completely agree. Classic on the other hand feels completely fine, and courses like network terminal and mortar Canyon are actually pretty well designed.
@@segaspice4062 agree on that Sonic Omens suffers from its game design, I mean boost wasn't built for platforming, especially in 3D that's why in the main line games they use 2D sections for platforming. And it's level design, collision errors, doesn't give a clue to the player where to go(in platforming sections) and levels feels small compared to the main line games, the reason why world was bigger than sonic is to give the feeling of speed, you know showing player how small but fast Sonic is. Sonic GT on the other hand is really fleshed out game that wants to be a 3D platforming while giving you the sense of speed, with momentum physics based mechanics. Level design is perfect for replayabilty with it's actually connected but alternative roads. With levels feeling like part of an open world.
Honestly I feel forced would have benefited not only from longer and better stages for classic and modern, but more adventure like stages no bosses for the rookie character.
I feel like 2D sections can be used if used properly. Not used for 90% of the stage. Maybe use it during a gimmick section or during things that can really only work in 2D.
Heck. If you wanna have something cool, have those 2D sections be put as a bonus game mode or something. A retro version of the game with 2D levels that plays like the classic games.
@@jerryprice9573 Modern Sonic doesn't necessarily mean "exclusively 3D". In fact, he has been shown to work in 2D as well. The Advance trilogy? The Rush games? Generations? There's nothing inherently wrong with 2D sections being present in a 3D game. As long as they're well designed, and don't take away from the gameplay, I don't really care if there's "too much 2D sections". Some good examples are Mario Galaxy games, Mario Odyssey and Crash Bandicoot.
SONIC FORCES (Video Game 2017's) Developer[S]; • SEGA Studios • Sonic Team • Super Sonic Art • Hedgehog Engine Publisher[S]: • SEGA Platform[S]: • Nintendo Switch • Nintendo Wii U • PlayStation 4 • PlayStation 3 • XBOX ONE • XBOX 360 • Windows PC |PEGI: 7+, ESRB: E10+.|
One mod I'd like to see is one that nerfs the Wispons. While I've never played the game admittedly, I've seen gameplay, and always felt the Wispon attacks looked too extreme. Like the Cube is a good example. I feel it would be better if the only thing that turns into a cube is the enemy hit by the hammer and not everything nearby. Another example would be the Burst. The stream of fire doesn't need to be that long and outstretched. It could be a little more close ranged. Avatar levels would probably require more strategy if the Wispons weren't so powerful.
"sand waterfalls are great! you can run on 'em and everything, if only the view was a little better, gotta get Green hill back to normal quick" is it a phrase from the mod? because I tried the game in English and I don't get that phrase.
This is still bad, just adding a couple more hazards to the level design doesn't automatically make it better when the levels are still too short, the control is still garbage, the set pieces are still worthless and annoying, and when it just is Sonic Forces. These people need to learn that there is NOTHING that is going to fix Forces. Unless you literally change basically EVERYTHING it's not gonna be good. Honestly, who even give a damn about this game anymore anyway?
i'll be real, the fact that there's so many re-imaginings of this damn game should stand testament to how much of a miss this game was, it's not even notably bad like 06 or boom, just mediocre
@@ZionnetheMeme honestly 06 could of been an amazing game if they had more time story was insane, character development was off the charts, open world was kinda good, gameplay was bad but could been better I hope we get it remastered and fixed someday
Exactly it just feels like insanity. It’s like watching people trying to glue and tape up a shredded document back into the way it was. It’s hopeless! No disrespect to the people who put their time and effort for making these mods on Forces but let’s face it. Nothing will really improve the game the way we wish it really was.
@@theextremeanimator4721 well i already saw some physics mods that made the game smoother, i think to implement mechanics is possible just requires a whole lot of time and programming
yeah, no. you can add all the extra obstacles to the stages you want, and maybe luminous forest isn't too bad here with that. but it still follows the same level design beats as the vanilla game, and the level design beats in this game are still boring as shit. not to mention the stages are still shorter than my pinky finger. maybe it's because the level editing tools for forces haven't quite got it down pat yet, but color me unimpressed tbh
Ok, I like how they went with sonic after "being tortured" People always say he should be depressed but sonic wouldnt ever really do that Him being super vengeful makes a lot more sense
Yeah, but here's he's just more of the same. Sure, he says that he's going to get vengeance against Eggman and co., but his tone stays the same. Almost like he's just saying it. If Sonic was super vengeful, he'd be barely able to contain his rage and hatred, and his words would be dripping with venom.
@@umbreonel5730 yeah, but the tone of roger Craig Smith's sonic (the voice very well replicated if not too much) is very much a voice that stays in the same tone most the time The best sonic voice for roger imo was boom sonic in the show
@@buttered_n Regardless of VA, the tone of voice should shift accordingly to the context presented. You're not wrong in saying that Smith's Sonic always stays in the same voice, though. Also, I remembered that in the original Japanese script, there was no mention of Sonic being tortured; they just added that in for the English script.
@@buttered_n Yeah, this game is a perfect example of why SEGA's Sonic mandates are bullshit. For the IDW comics, Shadow's mandated characterization is so bad and inflexible, Ian Flynn got him out of the way as soon as possible. It's that bad.
Man I remember I got this game in 2021 of this year. And when I got it. The audio for the cutscenes wouldn’t work. Game was playable of course. But you couldn’t hear sonic and his friends talk in the cutscenes. You can barley hear them. All you can hear is the music
This looks new and polished but….. i can’t. It’s still Forces deep down and I want to like it but i just can’t. I wish we could go back in time and figured out what went wrong during the development so we can get the grand adventure we deserved
@@mirak1934 yeah no 06 was the wose game ever boom too all of the boom franchise was failing and 06 was so bad it was like sega made the models ok? and then the game was made in 5h i like the game bc it has character stages modern sonic stages and classic sonic stages but yea something was a lil off but i dont hate it
@@Lypezsolos Multiple reasons. It has a horrible story. Levels are short and gameplay is almost all done for you. Physics suck Barely anything new has been added. It's super short. And there's probably a bunch more reasons. People think it's worse with Forces because unlike Boom and 06 it didn't really actually have some reason to be as sucky as it was. It's the mediocrity overall that I think really makes this game bad. How long will we get half arsed Sonic games like Lost World and Forces?
Guardian Rock is exactly what I wanted Re-imagined to be: Something that adds enough meat onto a level's bones that makes it significantly longer to finish than the normal 1- maybe 2 minutes of an original level.
I wonder what happens if you combined sonic forces all versions with all mods, sonic generations all versions with all mods, sonic colors all versions with all mods, sonic lost world all versions and all mods, sonic mania all versions, all mods, and all fan-games that go over it, and sonic mania plus all versions, all mods, and all fan-games that go over it.
*sees in the background a second goalpost in chemical plant spaceport* ...is that... the original one? ...you can literally see in the background without the building? That's disgusting level design
This is pretty good level design. The 3D sections really show how bad the original physics are though. Perhaps if they modded in some new physics to make the acceleration more smooth. That would be great.
I don't know what everyone else is talking about. This is a much better reimagined mod. Nothing looked out of place like a giant platform with spikes covering.
I don’t really like the 3D parts of this mod. It’s still a hallway but it tries to add more platforms and obstacles, which makes it feel like sonic dash. And sonic forces physics doesn’t really fit a bunch of platforming. But I do like the 2D sections since the top path really rewards you and more general pathways in a level is great.
You're entirely right, but I'm just happy to do something besides hold Boost when in 3D. Sonic Dash may just be Sonic Dash, but it's more interesting than vanilla Forces.
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Level design is looking far better than those “improvement” mods that just plastered spikes and walls everywhere to make blockier platforming.
Still, before I can truly call this reimagined, I'd think it would need more on the level of Network Terminal and Guardian Rock.
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@@theextremeanimator4721 no
It boggles my mind how Sonic Team couldn't even get something as simple as Sonics acceleration right in Forces when before in gens it was good
@Yung_Bluu_SSBU that sucks
@Yung_Bluu_SSBU Not only that, but Sega rushed Sonic Team so hard this time...
@ArtBuffalo Well, the Devs from 2017 are NOT the same from 1998. New developers come every year to Sonic Team, and so the unexperienced ones.
Exactly why I have no faith for Sonic Rangers
@@LeaveMeAloneFBIGood news! Frontiers is actually great!
Sonic Forces was 4 years ago but it feels like it was only 2 years ago
Even though i haven't played, i sure remember its release and seeing a friend hyped for it.
@@ultaedits5751 me too, my parents got it when it was released and I remembered not liking it, thats right when I wasn't even a sonic fan, I still didn't like forces
I collected every collectible because I was certain that I had only seen 60% of the game and that collecting everything would get me a true ending that explained where Infinite went off to, or something.
I got a couple gimmicky challenge levels and avatar parts.
Never been the same since. Felt like it was just yesterday.
Maybe because we haven't received much of sonic after that
Ah yes Sonic Forces Reimagined, One of the many, MANY Mods that will make Sonic Forces feels more better.
Though unfortunately the core of the game is the one thing that’ll never be fixed by modding alone...
@@makotoyuki345 Modders are pretty crazy. Don't doubt them.
@@dolomite1067 Do you see how short these levels still are?
@@voltaireentertainment That's mostly because they just added a few platforms and camera angles.
@@dolomite1067 Yeah.
Putting random roadblocks to jump over doesn't make the level better, but overall it seems more enjoyable than the original press foward to win system.
But you can’t make the level longer
@@evansguardiola1908 You can. Look up Sonic Forces Overclocked
Where did it say it's making the level better?
@ArtBuffalo There's an improved control mod that I like to use while playing reimagined, and several of the levels have had full on terrain extensions making them generations length, such as Guardian Rock, Iron Fortress and Network Terminal!
No matter what anyone does, it’s still a straight line.
I mean, that's what Modern Sonic has been about since SA1... Sure, a few pathways here and there, but they all come together in less than 10 seconds after you took them. The fact that you had more control to jump out anytime didn't change the main gameplay.
Adding more interacteability helps break down that hold boost to win formula, but it's known that to make Sonic work in 3D it needs to have a set path to follow as it's just too fast for us to make decisions if not done properly.
Rookie drifting:
Rookie:“I hope the resistance can afford me some new shoes, drifting is such a chore"
Yo this is rad! Someone should send this to RadicalSoda, this’ll make his next Forces play through somewhat bearable.
Yeah a radical Soda fan :D
Hopefully they’ll fix tails I miss the old guy who fought enemies by himself. Man
He was the man in adventure
I will say Network Terminal and Guardian Rock are true Re-Imagined versions, still needs work but they got two down!
Okay is there new dialogue?
Some of these lines I swear I never heard.
They were unused lines for the game
I still don't know why Sonic wouldn't be the leader of the Resistance. He's the only one that ever actually does jack shit. Knuckles can't even sit still guarding the Master Emerald anymore.
Agreed
Um yes he does.
Did you miss the part where Sonic was held captive for six months which is why someone else had to takeover?
@@multixloves3072 That was honestly a stupid writing decision on their part. I mostly mean, when he got back, why wasn't HE the leader of the resistance?
@@Flashguy4826 it is because of sonic always going everywhere on his own but also how Sonic doesn't like to stick around and lead something of this size
Sonic generation mods : WOW ITS AMAZING.
Sonic forces mods : haha platforms = better game.
edit : i still appreciate the effort tho lmao
definitely agree, this seems almost identical
Actually for a sec I actually forgot the mod was applied so it just blends in for me. Sonic Forces is definitely flawed at its core
@@makotoyuki345 so its not much better with the mod?
@@makotoyuki345 People don't notice the changes in revamps as their brains were usually shut off while they were playing. If you compared this and the base level side by side you would see that there are some really great level design improvements
Remember when sonic was an effort? Man I wish we could have that back
@karrin nah lmao. Sonic’s been shit since after SA2 with a few diamonds in the turd scattered throughout.
@karrin Eh. Heroes was ok. solid shit streak from 2005 - 2009 with Shadow, '06, Secret rings, and black knight. Unleashed, Colors, and Generations were pretty good. lost world was ok. Sonic Mania is probably the best sonic game since SA2.
@@bigblueassbaby9074 Tbh I'd argue Heroes was better than SA2, the adventure duology is very overrated.
Dude, you post almost every day. There's not a single day where I don't wake up to a new video notification! Congrats!
i feel like you can’t make this game good without tweaking the physics. even with added obstacles and pathways, everything still just feels like a hallway. sonic controls like absolute ass in this game so there’s really not much to work with unless you fundamentally change it.
Yeah, from Sonic Generations's physics to this, is a massive downgrade in gameplay. It's a different engine i know, but there's a lot that needed to be tweaked in here for this to feel nice.
then just get a better physics mod
@@SonlyticalYT at that point just play generations
Way better than the mods claiming to have improved the level by putting spikes and hordes of enemies in the middle of nowhere.
3D parts can still have some more improvement because all i see it just a linear straight path with some high and lows. I can think of making so much more open space or some curved pathways. But i like the idea of risky faster path vs safer slower path in the level design. but when everything just looked like a straight hallway with no corners or turns, everything starts to get stale because you only look at one direction. I like the original stage designs like the 3D parts for Guardian Rock, really adds to the stage.
2D and 2.5D parts are a massive improvement, higher path is harder to get but faster, lower path is easier but slower and the pathing between the two path overlaps a lot of time giving chances to recover bad runs, and is a lot better to look at. Also the added platforming elements in 2.5D adds in to the design of the stage overall.
I like it, it improves upon what Forces could've done, and it is done well. I don't like the design choice of some parts, like in Lost Valley, around the end, in 3D there's a cliff with nothing on the sides and there's a hole below it but you're forced to slide under it and you can't go around it. It's better to make a rubble obstacle you can sidestep around or something of the sort instead of the stray random cliff out of nowhere that you can clearly go around from. Also it's still pretty short for the most part, 2 minute clear with mistakes here and there? Even Sonic Generations isn't that fast. It's just reaaaalllly short it's dissapointing because there could just be more stuff in there.
8:01
That remembers me of the scene in the Sonic Unleashed opening where Eggman tries to escape Super Sonic
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I did not realize that, strange
You...
You actually have to play the game?
That’s crazy
OMG
The best Sonic Forces mod:
a mod that will make you turn sonic yourself
Finally Something better than sonic forces: Sonic Forces Reimagined
@draft draft Colors, black knight, boom, all suck more lol
@draft draft colors is just long empty hallways and more blocky platforming, and while forces feels worse, it does attempt to fill up the hallways...
Though I have to admit, colors is definitely more fun
@@SoniaSpectrum Seriously, your points in this argument are trash. Yes, Colors has issues but Forces has pretty much every one of its issue amplified combined with overall worse feeling gameplay.
@draft draft nope it does. I think forces modern is worse than colors but I like forces classic and tag team stages more than most colors stages
@@j-meister3284 for modern I completely agree. Classic on the other hand feels completely fine, and courses like network terminal and mortar Canyon are actually pretty well designed.
Sonic forces is better with these new additions but nothing will replace the quality of previous games.
Sonic Omens & Sonic GT are both really good as well
@@Duskoi Sonic Omens sucks, Sonic GT is good though
@@segaspice4062 have you played both?
@@j-meister3284 Yes
@@segaspice4062 agree on that Sonic Omens suffers from its game design, I mean boost wasn't built for platforming, especially in 3D that's why in the main line games they use 2D sections for platforming. And it's level design, collision errors, doesn't give a clue to the player where to go(in platforming sections) and levels feels small compared to the main line games, the reason why world was bigger than sonic is to give the feeling of speed, you know showing player how small but fast Sonic is. Sonic GT on the other hand is really fleshed out game that wants to be a 3D platforming while giving you the sense of speed, with momentum physics based mechanics. Level design is perfect for replayabilty with it's actually connected but alternative roads. With levels feeling like part of an open world.
This is way better than the actual game.
This makes sonic forces so much better because they erased, "Green Hill's lookin' a lot like sand hill right now."
Even this small mod is better than the official Forces.
By a small percentage but still better
@@makotoyuki345 yes
Whats the difference?
@@HellboyBr11 Did you see the duration of every stage shown? They even reused some hidden dialogues.
@@makotoyuki345Why small?
I really love this mod but I really miss the days where rings would give you more boost instead wisp capsule things
I still like the game even when it's or not a mod
I think a momentum fix mod would go greatly with this game
Another re imagined sonic forces mod 😂
If Flash can beat ben 10 what makes you think Sonic can't
1:09 sonic casually forgetting that he once ran on a waterfall like 2 times in his life😂
Man, is sad that not even Mods can make the game better
green hill is looking a lot more like sand hill right now
Same
Honestly I feel forced would have benefited not only from longer and better stages for classic and modern, but more adventure like stages no bosses for the rookie character.
There should be no 2d sections in a modern sonic game
Said no one ever
@@doni7895 I just did
I feel like 2D sections can be used if used properly. Not used for 90% of the stage. Maybe use it during a gimmick section or during things that can really only work in 2D.
Heck. If you wanna have something cool, have those 2D sections be put as a bonus game mode or something. A retro version of the game with 2D levels that plays like the classic games.
@@jerryprice9573 Modern Sonic doesn't necessarily mean "exclusively 3D". In fact, he has been shown to work in 2D as well. The Advance trilogy? The Rush games? Generations? There's nothing inherently wrong with 2D sections being present in a 3D game. As long as they're well designed, and don't take away from the gameplay, I don't really care if there's "too much 2D sections". Some good examples are Mario Galaxy games, Mario Odyssey and Crash Bandicoot.
Modern Sonic model needs an update to actually look like Sonic and not a classic Sonic
That level design for luminous forest is so good
1:10 who the heck did that line.
Sonic Forces lives rent free in y’all’s heads every day
My god these level designs are generations god tier
Wow! That's cool mod. I wanna that this mod was official Sonic Forces.
Question. What's the reason ppl cant just increase the level length by creating more of the level instead of idk adding useless obstacles???
14:39 Watch the whole video lol
Amazing mod dude
He could reimagine stages but can’t fix the classic sonic physics?🤨
Classics physics have already been fixed gamebanana.com/mods/51020 They're even better than gens' physics now
Obviously you didn’t watch any other videos on mods, it’s like one of the most popular mods in the sonic forces mod community
This is Cool
Looks Super Nice!!
SONIC FORCES
(Video Game 2017's)
Developer[S];
• SEGA Studios
• Sonic Team
• Super Sonic Art
• Hedgehog Engine
Publisher[S]:
• SEGA
Platform[S]:
• Nintendo Switch
• Nintendo Wii U
• PlayStation 4
• PlayStation 3
• XBOX ONE
• XBOX 360
• Windows PC
|PEGI: 7+, ESRB: E10+.|
MAH GET IN HERE, THEY ADDED A PLATFORM IN LEVEL 1!!!!!
The levels still look kinda short... at least it's not just "hold boost to win"
One mod I'd like to see is one that nerfs the Wispons. While I've never played the game admittedly, I've seen gameplay, and always felt the Wispon attacks looked too extreme. Like the Cube is a good example. I feel it would be better if the only thing that turns into a cube is the enemy hit by the hammer and not everything nearby. Another example would be the Burst. The stream of fire doesn't need to be that long and outstretched. It could be a little more close ranged. Avatar levels would probably require more strategy if the Wispons weren't so powerful.
If this is easy to set up I would gladly buy Sonic Forces
I Love That game Sonic Forces
Amogus
*ok*
Note : For some reason, Sky Sanctuary stage mod doesn't seem to work nowadays.
"sand waterfalls are great! you can run on 'em and everything, if only the view was a little better, gotta get Green hill back to normal quick"
is it a phrase from the mod? because I tried the game in English and I don't get that phrase.
Maybe it was cut from the actual game yet still in the files?
you only get the dialogue if you take that specific path
@@chrisprattofficial I tried to pass by, and he said nothing
@@6ynical and how do i get it?
It's a cut phrase that isn't used in the game. You can't actually get in-game without the mod.
sonic forces but the level design is good
This is still bad, just adding a couple more hazards to the level design doesn't automatically make it better when the levels are still too short, the control is still garbage, the set pieces are still worthless and annoying, and when it just is Sonic Forces.
These people need to learn that there is NOTHING that is going to fix Forces. Unless you literally change basically EVERYTHING it's not gonna be good.
Honestly, who even give a damn about this game anymore anyway?
i'll be real, the fact that there's so many re-imaginings of this damn game should stand testament to how much of a miss this game was, it's not even notably bad like 06 or boom, just mediocre
@@ZionnetheMeme honestly 06 could of been an amazing game if they had more time story was insane, character development was off the charts, open world was kinda good, gameplay was bad but could been better I hope we get it remastered and fixed someday
Exactly it just feels like insanity. It’s like watching people trying to glue and tape up a shredded document back into the way it was. It’s hopeless! No disrespect to the people who put their time and effort for making these mods on Forces but let’s face it. Nothing will really improve the game the way we wish it really was.
can we somehow manage to port Generations Classic Sonic physics to Forces and Modern Sonic too? Perhaps even mechanics from those games?
Physics? Mods.
Mechanics? Unlikely.
@@theextremeanimator4721 well i already saw some physics mods that made the game smoother, i think to implement mechanics is possible just requires a whole lot of time and programming
Você é o melhor youtuber
You guys are so talented with so little credit
21:01 were did you get that chao garden remix
yeah, no. you can add all the extra obstacles to the stages you want, and maybe luminous forest isn't too bad here with that. but it still follows the same level design beats as the vanilla game, and the level design beats in this game are still boring as shit. not to mention the stages are still shorter than my pinky finger.
maybe it's because the level editing tools for forces haven't quite got it down pat yet, but color me unimpressed tbh
Nice
cool! Another Sonic Forces improved video so that I can critique the original mess.
Luminuous Forest in particular looks like it's much more fun to play.
Sonic Forces but it's mostly agreeable to be good (i like OG forces but gotta admit this is WAY better)
Sorry but I can’t agree. Forces is bad
@@ShineSpriteGamer Sonic Forces is actually not a bad sonic game well it’s your opinion that you don’t like Forces
@@fizaplayz4765 ?
@@ShineSpriteGamer why are you so confused?
@@fizaplayz4765 Your grammar was just hard to read there.
I’m not the kind of guy to say HIRE THIS MAN but if the fans can make a shat game a bit more fun why can’t sega just give us a fun game to play
I swear when people say “HIRE THIS MAN” and then they make a game just like it, the fans get mad
Epic.
There's something wrong where's death egg for classic sonic only one classic level? No Death Egg?
I like those but i feel like the egg gate one one doesn't really add much
Can't wait til this project is finished. Looks pretty sick.
Fan does what Sega don't
Sega doesn't make the games, it's SonicTeam
@@EternityVoid_ Sega are responsible for the game for revealing them
@@nedalomar4216 Exactly
Ok, I like how they went with sonic after "being tortured"
People always say he should be depressed but sonic wouldnt ever really do that
Him being super vengeful makes a lot more sense
Yeah, but here's he's just more of the same. Sure, he says that he's going to get vengeance against Eggman and co., but his tone stays the same. Almost like he's just saying it. If Sonic was super vengeful, he'd be barely able to contain his rage and hatred, and his words would be dripping with venom.
@@umbreonel5730 yeah, but the tone of roger Craig Smith's sonic (the voice very well replicated if not too much) is very much a voice that stays in the same tone most the time
The best sonic voice for roger imo was boom sonic in the show
@@buttered_n Regardless of VA, the tone of voice should shift accordingly to the context presented. You're not wrong in saying that Smith's Sonic always stays in the same voice, though.
Also, I remembered that in the original Japanese script, there was no mention of Sonic being tortured; they just added that in for the English script.
@@umbreonel5730 yeah, and it's just my thoughts
It may or might not of been what they were going for with it. It's just how I interpreted it
@@buttered_n Yeah, this game is a perfect example of why SEGA's Sonic mandates are bullshit. For the IDW comics, Shadow's mandated characterization is so bad and inflexible, Ian Flynn got him out of the way as soon as possible. It's that bad.
Man I remember I got this game in 2021 of this year. And when I got it. The audio for the cutscenes wouldn’t work. Game was playable of course. But you couldn’t hear sonic and his friends talk in the cutscenes. You can barley hear them. All you can hear is the music
That ought'a SUCK!
Go into the options menu and then set the character voices to a higher volume
ah yes. no sand hill.
Luminous forest got the most upgraded, it went from a gloryfied straight line to a level I'd actually wanna play, thank you 👌
Guardian Rock looks cool too, i want to play around in that level. It's a whole new original stage for god's sake.
BADNIKS ARE DOING SOMETHING!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?1/1/
Is it me or forces looks more like generations
Yay
also now a mod of sonic generations has been created where you can play more than 2 characters from what I seen.
This looks new and polished but….. i can’t. It’s still Forces deep down and I want to like it but i just can’t. I wish we could go back in time and figured out what went wrong during the development so we can get the grand adventure we deserved
how many goddamn sonic forces variants do you have??
I mean sonic forces can be better with like 40 stages
Right
While this is better, I feel that this game’s level design needs an entire overhaul
How to get mods on sonic forces on xbox pls
Idk why so many ppl hate on sonic forces i think its a good game maybe its becuse i played it on switch but its your opinion
They like hating on the game because it’s a downgrade and for some reason they think it’s worst then Sonic 06 and Boom
@@mirak1934 yeah no 06 was the wose game ever boom too all of the boom franchise was failing and 06 was so bad it was like sega made the models ok? and then the game was made in 5h i like the game bc it has character stages modern sonic stages and classic sonic stages but yea something was a lil off but i dont hate it
@@Lypezsolos Multiple reasons.
It has a horrible story.
Levels are short and gameplay is almost all done for you.
Physics suck
Barely anything new has been added.
It's super short.
And there's probably a bunch more reasons.
People think it's worse with Forces because unlike Boom and 06 it didn't really actually have some reason to be as sucky as it was. It's the mediocrity overall that I think really makes this game bad. How long will we get half arsed Sonic games like Lost World and Forces?
Surely not the worse Sonic game but definitely the most depressing at the moment.
@@professorwhovian7403 yea true it will be better if they added spindash for modern sonic like generations
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The levels looks the same with just a few added things. The stage length is still the same
Guardian Rock is exactly what I wanted Re-imagined to be: Something that adds enough meat onto a level's bones that makes it significantly longer to finish than the normal 1- maybe 2 minutes of an original level.
I have Sonic Forces but in PS4, there is a way what i can play mods in the game?
Mods are only accessible on pc for any game. If you want mods, get the pc version.
@@neovortex6421 oh well, my windows 7 is crying right now-
@@dash5058, rip
Wow that’s cool I never knew that sonic Forces re-imagine A new update that’s what I’m talking about!
This is how the zones should have been like!
this just reminds me how good sonic forces could have been
In my opinion Egg Gate was one of those stages that looked amazing and the level design is great too
I wonder what happens if you combined sonic forces all versions with all mods, sonic generations all versions with all mods, sonic colors all versions with all mods, sonic lost world all versions and all mods, sonic mania all versions, all mods, and all fan-games that go over it, and sonic mania plus all versions, all mods, and all fan-games that go over it.
This game cannot be fixed by mods.
Mod is literally short for “modification”, so i feel like it can
*sees in the background a second goalpost in chemical plant spaceport*
...is that... the original one?
...you can literally see in the background without the building?
That's disgusting level design
Where?
I was told you about sonic forces mods but you did it already
Dont know why i always click these, nothing is even obviously changed, sonic forces will always be dead to me