Forces Classic Sonic, but it's fun to play
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- This video shows off the Classic Sonic Improvement Mod by Showin & The Duck Dealer in Sonic Forces PC / Steam
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I really love the stage intros. Especially the one where tails carries sonic.
Tails deserved more in forces. Especially after how it made him look.
@@Zak-bv4qm 😧You already know.
After 06 Tails has just been a wreck
@@Zak-bv4qm Basically his whole character is just OMG GUYS IT SONIC HE IS IN THIS GAME
@@carter812 I want somebody to give me on good reason why we needed the avatar and Infinite, There are mods out there which replace the avatar with Tails and it's really heartwarming to see Sonic and Tails doing the double boost and Sonic calling Tails partner and Best friend is just so touching, and the best part is with the tag team stages both characters actually talk instead of the Avatar being silent the whole game because all in game ocs go by the rule of the main character being unable to talk which is stupid. Also from a story stand point with tails having "lost it" he could've been cooped up in a bunker with rescued wisps eggman created with the phantom ruby to create the wispons which he had been working on in solitude for the 6 months in the dark. and just after that, we have him going to rescue Sonic
7:39 okay that's just really awesome
This mod made the levels feel so much more interesting and lively without really changing that much about them, which is really impressive.
@@demetriuskafkoulas5005 yeah, there was a lot of time and effort put in to it and it shows.
This gives the game more life honestly, stages felt really bland before.
To be fair, the edits don't improve things much.
But now that I think about it, I finally figured out what was missing: where the fuck are all the slopes, curves, and enemies?! You couldn't get through a single level in the classics without going through enough rounded terrain and badniks for multiple Forces levels.
@@Sonic62920 now that you mention it, classic sonic has to do A LOT of jumping from step to step platforms.
Tbh I kinda like Sonic Forces
They should make a full revamped sonic forces
@@MikeZeOfficialM8 I respect that but in all honesty it's not the worst game out the series
Modern Tails carrying Classic Sonic is the most cutest thing i've ever seen.
Yh
He pretty much carries Classic the whole game, being stuck to look weak, so Classic can look strong. I mean they didn't even let Tails do anything in Forces at all! "Just look cute and helpless, kid Just look cute and helpless," must have been Sega's direction for him when handing out the scripts when he asks why can't he get involved any of the action like he used to.
Tails was badass in the Sonic Adventure series, it's a shame he just stood there and watched Sonic get his ass kicked in this game.
@@kibtti Yeah! could've had tails try to save him even if it wasnt enough.
he was busy playing super mario
@@kibtti I think if he playable he would have been allowed to get involved. But I feel along with Classic weighing Tails down, the Player Avatar was just as much to blame, as look at when Sonic was being sucked into Null Space.
Tails: Hang on Sonic! I'll help you!
Sega: Whoa, slow down there kid, you're not playable anymore! Go get him Player Avatar!
But with Tails in Forces I have my own thing which basically during the fight against Infinite rather rather than having his tablet thing he'd be racing to met Sonic with the Chaos Emeralds. To help turn the tide in the war against Eggman. But by the time he gets there he finds Sonic fighting Infinite and its not going well. Filled with a surge of emotion, seeing Sonic in such a bad way, Tails lets out a scream and goes Super (god, could this be anymore Dragonball like?). He puts up a good fight against Infinite but it's not enough as he burns himself out unable to beat him. Sonic would have gotten enough time to catch his breath to save Tails before Knuckles swings by to get the fox cub out of there on Sonic's instructions. Word later reaches the resistance that Sonic dead and Tails loses it.
He runs away and spends the next six months wallowing in despair until one day while looking for a place to hide during a thunderstorm he finds himself in his old workshop, and inside it the original Tornado, Sonic's plane. Despite being depressed for the past six months, the sight of the bi-plane puts a spark back in Tails' eyes as he tries to get the plane back in the air, but due to his mental state not being the greatest he can't do it. He looks at the set of keys Sonic gave him for the plane and after remembering what happened to Sonic he breaks down into tears feeling guilty that he couldn't save him.
Chaos then appears which scares the young fox cub, much like in Forces, and when he attacks Tails the fox cub makes no real effort to defend himself because his confidence has been shattered and he feels he can't fight anymore. After being smacked about by Chaos for abit, he sees him turn his attention to the Tornado and begin attacking it. Tails' eyes widen in horror not wanting to see the plane, his only connection he has left to Sonic be destroyed, and that forces him to get back to his feet and fight. After driving Chaos away he feels a weight's been lift and manages to get the Tornado running again so he can get back home to the resistance base and help the others. The ofcourse word would get that Sonic is alive and Tails go storm the prison to save him, after doing a few other missions while building his confidence back up.
Also as well in the time leading up to that, with fighting the war against Eggman, in Forces, it wouldn't have been going so well and through running and hiding for a while it'd start to take it's toll on Tails' metal state. Hence why he's freezing up while facing regular Egg Pawns he would have smashed no problem, without breaking a sweat. But after Infinite "kills" Sonic, it proves to be the straw that broke the camel's back, hence why he's not as vengeful as he was in SA2, after seeing Eggman "kill" Sonic, by ejecting him out into space in that pod.
The little cutscene things at the beginning and end of each level make this so much more lively! I wish this was real, this looks so much more fun to play
It is... It's a mod
This is real, it’s a fan made mod you can install to the PC version of Forces.
@@kirbmaster575 I meant official from Sega real- my bad-
3:30 And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the huge reason as to why this is the best mod ever made
6:54 Did anyone else just realize that Tails tells Sonic the HEDGEHOG to stay SHARP in this scene?
Damn classic sonic is working so hard during his adventures because he went to angel islands to
Green hills zone
Chemical plant zone
Studioplis zone
Flying battery zone
Press garden zone
Stardust speedway zone
Hydrocity zone
Mirage saloon zone
Oil ocean zone
Lava reef zone
Mettalic madness zone
And top titanech monarch zone
And a battle with the phantom ruby with eggman and the other robot
t h e n g e t s s e n t t o
W a r
Then has to deal with that all over again but with ray and mighty
Geez he must've really needed a break!
Eh, he's used to being squeezed for everything he's worth by SEGA
*Green Hill Zone
Funnily enough, Green Hills Zone is its own location... for some reason...
@@blackdot105 oh well the reason is simple. The level theme is Toot Toot Sonic Warrior, not the Green Hill theme
@@game84cube I don't think that's the reason. Green Hill Zone in Forces has completely different music but it's still called Green Hill Zone. It's just a little confusing why they'd add an 'S' and nothing else.
@@blackdot105 no, I was talking about the real Green Hills from Master System Sonic 2
Seeing how much fun this looks makes me want to play Forces- and then I remember the actual game isnt like this😔
the only things i noticed changed are the drop dash is faster, worse model, and intros
... I would like sonic forces but i cant because my pc is so bad 😢
@@s-tron_ my pc is trash but i can play forces on 60 fps high settings is really trash
@@SIG7Pro 2:17 also
10:30 Wow! They actually made the death egg's core start to explode instead of just telling us it did!
...It's so sad that i act like this is such a cool addition when it's probably a really simple thing to mod. Just goes to show how bland forces was.
You can also see the giant robot crab from Guardian Rock right here, which helps the levels feel connected.
Edit: 2:17
@@yellowmello1223 wait... those things weren't there originally?..
@@Eldoofus
Nope. Sega really goofed up with Forces.
i mean we see the death egg blow up in the cutscene after. so it's not like we don't see it blow up at all.
@@theironjedi79
Ehhhhh...
Don't get me wrong, but I feel like SEGA could've given Forces patch updates to fix the level design or physics.
Another thing, I love the details at each end of the stage! Especially where Modern Eggman is on the signpost instead of Classic Eggman!
Maybe if they port the games to next gen consoles (at least that's what I hope)
@@gamenerd6454 that won't happen. They won't touch this game ever again
@@guirgsson3299 If they were, they would have done it years ago. SEGA’s probably far too busy working on the 30th Anniversary title to give this game any further attention outside of rereleasing it alongside Super Monkey Ball.
You know, I never noticed they just reused the Spin Signpost from Generations and not change it to reflect Eggman or the Eggman Empire. It's just Robotnik on there... nice touch on the modder's part
My favorite Sonic Forces zone, I love Ghost Town. It's cool to see how the mods make the experience even more complete.
The next part of the mod. I wonder if they will make a Rookie or Sonic remake. Including the bossfights that should’ve been done but haven’t.
A shadow boss battle with shadow and sonic team up against shadow illusion
Or a classic sonic chaos boss fight
@@nuggetcomics8539 that is all ready a mod.czcams.com/video/xtd5VaiSy5I/video.html
don't expect that. Showin only really cares about classic sonic. someone else could do it though.
Shadow fight boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
“Perfect Sonic forces is not real”
Perfect Sonic forces:
Still not real, the story still sucks
For as much as I like Classic Sonic, they really need to ditch the cheap marketing gimmick and focus on the other characters, letting them be playable again. Because outside of Boom, the last time Amy, Knux and Miles were playable in a mainline 3D game was over 10 years ago! I think having them be playable in Forces, instead Classic Sonic and that THING we might have gotten a better story given that the other characters were allowed to do something in the game and as a pleasant side effect of that means that their roles in the story would have to be expanded upon to reflect what their doing during gameplay. And no they shouldn't be stuck with no silly toy guns and instead be closer to their SA1 (and SA2 for Knuckles) incarnations
@C.T.H94 [Productions] I also recently thought as it was brought up in a video talking about Forces. Where was Amy's (emotional) reunion with Sonic? I mean Tails gets one and what's Amy doing? Just hanging out in the back like some cardboard cutout. I mean considering how both of them reacted after having some time to grieve for Sonic at the end of the Hero story of Adventure 2, she'd have abit more than that. Especially when you consider Sonic X, and he wasn't even "dead" and it was only a week he was gone compared to the months of Forces. And considering both have the serious emotional attachment to him, it should have been Tails and Amy to save Sonic, instead of that no name Joe, and there you'd have your team of three for the escape. Plus with Sonic being tortured, he'd need the extra help. Yes here he would actually really be roughed up quite abit instead of simply chilling out at Hotel Eggman the 6 months.
@C.T.H94 [Productions] I suppose Amy, armed with her hammer, could stand in for the Power role here, rather having two Speedsters. Though Tails would also be able to run about and do things on foot, because again - rather than being stuck in constant flight, lumbered with his team mates - as I said, they'd still retain access to their Adventure movesets.
Wow so many reactions on a meme
1:16 I love how the sign changes on its own
Even the stage intros and outros are animated! How do modders figure this stuff out?! Little touches like these make the stages feel more alive!
I like how sonic's new model is a mix of US box art sonic and JP box art sonic
1:17 THAT WAS SICK! IF ONLY THAT PART WAS IN THE GAME! it would have suprised me after I went pass the sign post
Tell me I'm not in the minority when I say the sign post changing into Chaos with the Phantom Ruby sound effect gave me legit chills
Dude, me too
God I've only just realised how flat forces levels are compared to generations
Really? Only just now?
@@ShinobiBoyBlue I knew as soon as the game came out but not this much, it’s literally a line
@@BeansAHH Yeah, very linear.
I remember someone said Forces was eventually gonna be looked at more fondly like Unleashed...
no
Forces’ Levels feel like Mario Maker Levels.
Like you can tell the difference between a Mario Maker Level and a real Mario Level
I love how everything in the modern world is just every creation of the classic world
Knuckles: "Don't get too cocky and fall!"
Classic Sonic: *already falling*
*already past the section*
God, that updated model has grown on me quite a bit. Absolutely love it
The fact that the invincibility theme is friends by hyper potions is something hing that added years to my life
Video: *About Sonic Forces*
CZcams: Sonic CD
Lol
Good.
It’s trying to recommend an actually good game
Lets say both of them are cool, but forces is with this mod
@@traktor420 *an
Love how you used the sonic mania theme for the speed power-up.
it's sad Sega is slowly becoming Bethesda?
i feel like they're trying to make games purposely rushed in order to force people to improve it
yes, i know that Forces was rushed due to the Engine being worked on the same time, but come on man, this isn't 2006 with "christmas release" deadlines
The fandon it's constanly pushing sonic team, they don't like sonic 2006 but the story it's going to restart
In every single video of a sonic fangame there's only one level with a few graphics and the only thing i see in the comments it's: "sega must hear the fandom" or "this thing it's better than the whole sonic team"
I hope That’s not the case next year
Sonic has already had a few blunders in the 2010's and forces is one of them
@@julip3264 probably because some kid’s tech demo in scratch is better than half of the sonic games lol.
Okay, now this became a lot more interesting.
Of course, the vanilla stage layout is still a bit limiting but overall it feels a lot better to playthrough and look at.
6:08 He is actually gaining speed *What*
They fixed the worst part of forces!
SEE THIS DESIGN LOOKS SO GOOD. At least the fans know that American sonic still exists
ive been out of the sonic fan loop for a while now but I think it's incredible how fans can have so much more passion and care for a project than Sonic Team themselves. Imagine if 3D sonic could be developed by fans the way Sonic Mania was
Unexpected double upload
Forces had the potential to be an amazing game, with three of the best play styles, but they screwed it up, and now the game is looking much better than the actual product. That’s pretty sad
Did I just see a Eggman and Infinite approach at the end of that Green Hill level
I'm sold!
this is incredible it completely changes my perception on this game, i genuinely wanna play this now
Another amazing mod, I suggest Sega hires some of these mod and fan game makers for a change. And also great vid 👍
2:22 I love that nature effect!
8:58
Yaaaay another recreated classic Sonic but I'm actually happy about this one because it's from sonic 3 and knuckles
3:29 Tails is doing Something . Finally
Nice vid I like your gameplay gamer
I love this mod so much
At 0:23 you can actually see chaos in between buildings
It would ve been so cool if the villan to classic sonic ''sub story" was chaos
Ooh
And then Metal was the villain of Sonic's, and then Infinite is the villain of the OC's sub story, with them crossing over at times and eventually, Infinite becomes the main threat for the rest of the story.
I can say with confidence that this work is 10 times better than the one in the actual game even if one is by fans and the other is by a company.
Because with this game the freaking company had 2 rookies be the level designers.
2 fans* actually
@@cookieblobber nice, gonna edit that.
(There’s probably a lot more but of course the two main people is a Shrek shitposter and a duck lol, even then, the fact that there’s this group of fans that did all of this and not an official team that is supposed to be experts on this sorta stuff just speaks volumes as to what is going on behind the scenes of these games)
@@cookieblobber lol I'm honored to referred to as the Shrek shitposter.
@@ShowinGrowin
Lmao
5:12 Sonic Mania music: **kicks in**
Yep, Friends is the speed shoes in this mod.
I like how they updated Classic Sonic’s model to make his eyebrows as pronounced as they look in the box art.
That’s something that always confused me about forces and generations; Why give him the exaggerated facial expression on the box if the actual model is lacking it? They had the technology.
Sonic has two designs: Us sonic and Japan sonic, games use Japan sonic, us sonic was used in the US box art.
They repeated this on gens and forces.
@@NeoDeXs even then, the in game model made him look way too rounded and passive compared to literally all his renders that gave him attitude. This restored some of that depth and personality to his design.
it's such a shame they didn't make the underwater timer longer, but this mod is still a great improvment over the orginal physics and stage design
idk how in the world sega actually thought putting a SPEED CAP on a SONIC game made sense
This is so sad, Fans have to Fix Sonic cause SEGA won't do it themselves. Hopefully his 30th Anniversary is better
YeaH I know
It sucks to know that the 30th anniversary game could suck but I have hope they know what they're doing this time after Forces
Yeah
@@thebrainnameditself9530 don't make me mad. ALL of you. I know forces isn't like mania, but I like it a lot even without mods I think forces is better than 06 and boom because it doesn't have millions of glitches.
@@jeffreysimmons7664 i like sonic 06 better than forces because its "so bad its good" unlike forces' "so bland its boring"
oh and sonic boom is definitely worse than forces i agree with that
Honestly i like what I'm seeing and hope that these improvements may make even sonic forces a step closer the game we all hoped it to be
ya had me at "it's fun to play"
3:30 this is the cutest thing I've seen.
I love the casino forest intro
Tails: Something is wrong...I see the problem now
OH DO YA?!
0:59
Tails: be careful sonic
Classic sonic:(gets hit)
5:10 NO WAY
THE SPEED SHOES' MUSIC IS A REMIX OF FRIENDS
FUCKING AWESOME
One thing that I can say about this game is it’s freakin beautiful
why am I so invested in this?
This honestly is much more interesting to look at
*Sonic Forces* the fans to make it fun themselves!
I liked the chemical plant level intro.
In every Sonic Game and Sonic Can Games... You always survive from drowning. Like why!? But good job NOT dying.
You know, that kind of thing pisses me off.
Not against the modders, because they did a great work here, but for Sega themselves, it looks like they didn't even give a sh*t about the fun factor of this game.
Whoever made this is a literal saint.
Man... just watching this you can tell without playing that Classic Sonic play SO much better here. And love the intros.
That's why I got the PC version of Sonic Forces... for mods! Sadly, nothing yet during the early days. I might get this to fix Classic Sonic. Seeing as I've already 100% the PS4, Switch and PC versions of the game.
Kinda hoping for a Human (cartoonish design) Avatar mod to mess with in the future.
Classic Sonic is totally has fixed
Didn't really notice classic Sonics clunkyness while playing but they did a good job on this mod
This is awesome!
Christ the model and animations look great
I never thought I will say that, but one more year and we will have enough modes to make the best Sonic Forces the best Sonic game
Ok here is what inspected from the classic gameplay, im happy :D
I like to think:
Actually C. Sonic never was in forces and taked the tails role
Or
Tails wasnt useless in the C. stages, he was doing other part of the zone
you can see tails fly off in the beginning woah
I absolutely love this
I forgot how good the music in the casino level was
Noice
Damn. The title is a solid burn.
No one gonna talk about how chaos appears menacingly at the end of ghost town
yeah, that one leads to a boss fight
Sega: due to the engine we can give classic his correct physics
Mods:
6:07 That is no much better than not even making it off the ramp.
I wonder what Sega could say about this.
I like how even RANK was buffed to the level of *"S rank is actually hard"*
I actually really like the Chip tune in Forces, essentially Ghost town
Ironically, I'd say that classic sonic had the best levels in the game, but unfortunately, his physics were so weird as to make every single one unenjoyable. this mod seems to fix that problem, so that the good level design (not amazing, but good) gets to shine through.
Except for Iron gate.
Iron Gate has an auto scroller in a sonic game.
don't be like Iron Gate.
See how even a little bit of extra detail can add a lot to a stage
0:44 why does this enemy placement remind me of a certain zone from sonic 2 that isn’t fun but it has good music
Let me guess metropolis zone
@@jimiljohnson4876 ye
This mod makes the game look actually fun
Sega: can’t make a character fun to play
This guy: Fine, I’ll do it myself
I'm sold if Classic Sonic can do the instant spin dash like in generations.
New title: Fans to Sega's handwork. AGAIN
Impossible might I add
Tails be like flying over the whole level
i cant wait to see people port sonic superstars physics to this game
wow i played sonic forces and i always thought classic sonic was the worst but this video changes everything
Of course it's fun to play, and anyone could see classic Sonic's improvements.
This is one of the good parts about the Sonic fanbase, and I'm glad it even exists
Man stage 10 music is amazing
BROOOO (Classic) SONIC’S MODEL LOOKS SO GOOOD
One of the things I like about this is that they got rid of the auto scroll in that section of the imperial tower stage. That part sucked.
I hope sega knows who to hire now
@@perennial1362 its mainly cus sega hasnt put anything out in a while or presented any ideas
This is the same thing sonic overtime was doing but with a boss nicely done ✅