The thing I love about the levels is that they're still linear in nature,but much more fun,challenging,immersive and less automated They make you feel like you're always part of the scene,and it's a damn shame this isn't how the actual game plays
@@Shadex_Joestar They are definitely a big improvement. I would do a lot of Forces replays if the levels were this good. I only replayed Forces this year just to remember how Sonic Team screwed up before getting Frontiers.
linear levels arent always bad, unleashed had linear levels in most cases but they were filled with short reaction time objstacles to make the player concentrate, and it didnt have a lot of platforming either(except for the werehog stages) they added more platforming to the boost gameplay in generations and especially colors
Tails: Sonic… we can all help ourselves when we need to fight alone. And fighting Chaos 0 is a complete piece of cake! Amy Rose: As the Resistance, I say we go out there and make ourselves useful!
Wow, INCREDIBLE work from the modders! Super excited to play through Forces again when it's eventually completed. It's really sad that time and time again fans have to create something to take games with obvious potential to actually be fun.
Even ExoParadigmGamer, while he likes Sonic Forces, would give this game a Replace score had Forces actually had a remake that would fix everything wrong with it (especially the flanderization of the characters).
4:04 Man... When Aqua Road's music was reveal by SEGA months before the release of the game, I was expecting something like this. A 3D and 2D section with that music. Finally, that dream come true. 🙏
Exactly. This is just Sega sitting in their offices with their thumbs up their asses too scared to see another failure after Rise of Lyric almost made them go bankrupt
@@havenisthebest99 Rise of Lyric is a different beast, there's several videos online that explained what happened with this game. Forces was not in the same situation. Sonic Team spent too much time working on their new engine and all the talents behind Unleashed and Generations left the company.
A little nitpick, but some of the newer areas still have that “fan made” feel to them. And I think it’s because the set pieces are guilty having plain flat environments, or wide open areas over bottomless pits. It’s especially noticeable in Sunset Heights. They could’ve used some more slopes or hills to keep the set dressing a tad more consistent with the vanilla levels. The actual platforming on the other hand is pretty solid. No complaints there.
Hey there nice to see you again! How have you been? This is a totally fair critism Expanding the areas is a bit of an issue. The game starts to choke a little and crash and all that fun stuff. Modeling is also kinda hard. It's hard to make custom geometry look professionally done when the tools for Forces are still very limited.
@@MarioTainaka it’s alright, I fully expected modelling to be tricky to figure out. It’s why I prefaced that this is just a nitpick. Also, are there NPC’s in this stage? I hear some of them talking as you run by, but I don’t believe I saw any.
@@Fractorification There are no NPC"S in the stage, because we'd have to model and animate them. But there are alot of implications that there should be NPC"s like newly modeled boats and the screams
God. This mod did Aqua Road justice. It's one of my favorite stages from Forces because of the song alone. I personally love the Forces soundtrack. Makes me feel nostalgic from the days I played it in high school.
I've always thought people trying to "improve" Forces was like trying to lift a lazy horse off the ground with one hand, but this is actually darn good! That Shadow section at Sunset Heights is impressive!
With the reimagined Sunset Heights, I don’t know how fun it’d actually be but that sense of scale and openness in the environment is really what this game needed, among other things obviously. But it looks super good
This is an absolute testament to the sheer dedication of the Sonic community. Brandon Jones and anyone else working on this should be fucking proud This is what Sonic Forces should have been
We won't need a re-imagining of this game anymore once the new one releases next month, but this is still a great mod. Shows the game's levels could've been better it had more level designers that were experienced with Sonic games.
I'm the all rounder type with a preference for most games from 2003 and beyond, and even I can't see where Frontiers has to offer than a possibly more serious story and neutered gameplay for wide open maps.
It's not a matter of number, but of talent. 2 of the 3 level designers for Forces were newbies that NEVER worked on Sonic. And visibly they were just there to get the money and do the bare minimum.
@@Darkslayer1534 Especially considering how little time they actually got to actually developpe the game. That's of course not an excuse as Unleashed was done pretty quickly too, but being newbies + on a tight schedule? That's a recipe for disasters.
Like most of time, modders do what SEGA didn't. For real, the stages looks like they always should have been with main path and from it, you have take different pathways. Honestly, it worth the detour for a casual Forces playhrought with this mod. And if Cyberspace levels turn out like this, then it we will have something pretty nice to enjoy. It doesn"t feel that automatic and it's great that way, being a part of scenery. Combine with Harder Bosses mod and Forces is now an improved title to play. What modders did like here is extracting as much as possible all the potential they can get. While going throughout Sunset Heights, you can hear citizens screaming all around. Nice little details we now have here. #SonicForcesRevampedEdition
This mod feels like forces improved, but still has the same problem as forces. Guardian rock still has the boring double boost section, but at least is a bit more cinematic with the chase. Rail grinding and boost rings and springs and boostpads make the game incredibly automated. The chemical plant pipe sections should have been like generations where u can run on them without it being automated.
@@royolaniye6643 Right? Like one the comparison is ignorant as ever (and for some reason every game that people don't like gets it), and for another (with no disrespect to modders or praise to Forces) what was done wouldn't be possible without the game itself
Sunset Heights 1. The smol cutscene with Sonic and (IMPOSTER) Shadow 2. the multiple Egg Bomber chase sections 3. the camera angles focusing on the Death Egg Robots showing their destruction 4. you can hear some civillians shouting for help or announcing evacuation protocols Most of the level seems automated (a good 60% I can estimate) but a large part of the level shows how much Eggman's invasion has affected normal civilians.
@@ThibautMahringer At least the cyberspace stuff is proven to be fun. Is it incredibly lazy? Yes. But they're good levels in their origin games, so they'll at least be good in Frontiers.
@@brycebitetti1402 I heard that the control sliders settings doesn't apply in Cyberspace, I hope the controls will be fine. They seem worse than the original games the levels came from. But at least they seem better than Forces.
Makes me wanna install this game and download this. This looks amazing. Saw someone comment talking about the npc and environmental sounds. Defo agree. Overall the custom level design just makes you think this is what sega could have done. This game would have been so much better with this game play
@@ThibautMahringer actually the controls in the mod were adjusted to have better physics, plus theres a patch to enable 360 degree movement instead of the 8 direction it does use
It's been a long time since I've player Sonic Forces so I don't remember exactly what was changed, but I can see there's a a mini boss rushing sonic on the doubole booster scene, which I remember it wasn't there.
Ok , the music in this game apparently is so good i though it was added in by the video creator but apparently it's in the actual game, i might have to check this game out myself.
"Sonic Forces" and the word "amazing" are three words I would least expect to be in a sentence. And yet...IT'S ACTUALLY TRUE? WHY IS THIS RE-IMAGINING SO GOOD??
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I don't remember some of the lines said in levels, are they adding new lines? and if so are they getting the original VAs to voice custom lines, or just very good impressionists?
The expanded portion of Sunset Heights blows my mind, it's so disappointing how in the original level it just ends all of a sudden and he's literally standing off to the side
Dang, you missed out on 1 special stage! If you collect enough Red Rings, you'll be able to play the second special stage of this mod, it's also one that I really like
I'm positive if this was the product we received, it would still be derided given the nature of Sonic fans (if not just as disliked), but no way you can dock the work done here.
This is such a cool mod, honestly if this was what sonic forces was actually like I'd probably think it was an ok game. Its just sad tho when you compare the real versions of these levels against the mod versions, the real versions just have nothing to them, they barely even count as levels
Y'know iw as wondering when the changes would begin but then i realized, this is it, EVERYTHING WAS CHANGED. and they're such good levels man Shame the original game isn't like this
God, the environmental sound design of this mod (NPC voices within Sunset Heights) makes me wish this was the game we got on release just on it's own.
I don’t know what the npc’s are saying
@@GREYFOX6 Several instances of a random scream, one saying look out, and one along the lines of "something something dead ahead!"
@@MatthewCobalt also there are animals stuck in capsules
The thing I love about the levels is that they're still linear in nature,but much more fun,challenging,immersive and less automated
They make you feel like you're always part of the scene,and it's a damn shame this isn't how the actual game plays
Who said linear means bad ? Forces is bad, not linear levels themselves
Once they patch colors and if they think of patching other games they should do this update
@@ThibautMahringerI know linearity isn't bad persay,I was just describing the levels
@@Shadex_Joestar They are definitely a big improvement. I would do a lot of Forces replays if the levels were this good.
I only replayed Forces this year just to remember how Sonic Team screwed up before getting Frontiers.
linear levels arent always bad, unleashed had linear levels in most cases but they were filled with short reaction time objstacles to make the player concentrate, and it didnt have a lot of platforming either(except for the werehog stages) they added more platforming to the boost gameplay in generations and especially colors
8:56 That would've been so cool if that actually happened in the game!
I just wish it was possible for that to have shadow there instead of sonic if you play as shadow, but beggers can't be choosers.
@@stanzacosmi i mean technically i can just put 2 versions of the shadow animation there lol
That SA2 callback 🔥🔥
Knuckles: “They must have been doing experiments they don’t want people to know about.”
Sees Chao in cages.
“That heartless monster!”
Tails: Sonic… we can all help ourselves when we need to fight alone. And fighting Chaos 0 is a complete piece of cake!
Amy Rose: As the Resistance, I say we go out there and make ourselves useful!
Save the chaos from being chao abuse
Sonic: THIS MUST BE THE DOING OF PACAHAMIC AND HIS TRIBESMEN!!!!!!!! IT’S SONIC ADVENTURE 1 ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!! HEEEEEEEELP!!!!!!!
@@kieranstark7213 sonic jr:and what about me father
Sonic Sr.: You’ll always be my partner in crime, just like Tails, Knuckles, Amy Rose, Team Dark, the Chaotix, Blaze and Silver.
Wow, INCREDIBLE work from the modders! Super excited to play through Forces again when it's eventually completed. It's really sad that time and time again fans have to create something to take games with obvious potential to actually be fun.
This shows that Sonic forces deserve a huge remake
They should remake it
@Asp Burgers I think after Frontiers they can do the remake of some games
NO ! Leave this game alone to die where it is
@@PrinceRoseSKY you know, this game has a potential. So why don't remake and use this potential?
Even ExoParadigmGamer, while he likes Sonic Forces, would give this game a Replace score had Forces actually had a remake that would fix everything wrong with it (especially the flanderization of the characters).
4:04
Man... When Aqua Road's music was reveal by SEGA months before the release of the game, I was expecting something like this. A 3D and 2D section with that music. Finally, that dream come true. 🙏
You know what the sad part is?
There was *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL* stopping the game from being a mirror image of this mod
Exactly. This is just Sega sitting in their offices with their thumbs up their asses too scared to see another failure after Rise of Lyric almost made them go bankrupt
@@havenisthebest99 Rise of Lyric is a different beast, there's several videos online that explained what happened with this game.
Forces was not in the same situation. Sonic Team spent too much time working on their new engine and all the talents behind Unleashed and Generations left the company.
+ this sonic controls better than past boost games
@@dark_nightwing_xl2797ot really, Sonic's acceleration in this game is super weird
@@ALegendaryBlueHedgenot really compare this sonic with the past boost games
A little nitpick, but some of the newer areas still have that “fan made” feel to them. And I think it’s because the set pieces are guilty having plain flat environments, or wide open areas over bottomless pits. It’s especially noticeable in Sunset Heights. They could’ve used some more slopes or hills to keep the set dressing a tad more consistent with the vanilla levels.
The actual platforming on the other hand is pretty solid. No complaints there.
Hey there nice to see you again! How have you been? This is a totally fair critism Expanding the areas is a bit of an issue. The game starts to choke a little and crash and all that fun stuff. Modeling is also kinda hard. It's hard to make custom geometry look professionally done when the tools for Forces are still very limited.
@@MarioTainaka it’s alright, I fully expected modelling to be tricky to figure out. It’s why I prefaced that this is just a nitpick. Also, are there NPC’s in this stage? I hear some of them talking as you run by, but I don’t believe I saw any.
@@Fractorification There are no NPC"S in the stage, because we'd have to model and animate them. But there are alot of implications that there should be NPC"s like newly modeled boats and the screams
in retrospect the levels seem a whole lot less fanmade than Update 3's cyberspace levels in frontiers..
Sunset Heights was DEFINITELY my favourite. It improved the original by a lot
This is what Sonic forces should have been
Exactly
God. This mod did Aqua Road justice. It's one of my favorite stages from Forces because of the song alone. I personally love the Forces soundtrack. Makes me feel nostalgic from the days I played it in high school.
Dude sunset heights gives me the chills. The combination of the roars, and the sounds of people fighting and possibly dying and crying for help. Yikes
I've always thought people trying to "improve" Forces was like trying to lift a lazy horse off the ground with one hand, but this is actually darn good! That Shadow section at Sunset Heights is impressive!
Is been YEARS since I seen sonic forces reimagined
This is great stuff
I would love this game to my death if only the levels were like this epic and cool
With the reimagined Sunset Heights, I don’t know how fun it’d actually be but that sense of scale and openness in the environment is really what this game needed, among other things obviously. But it looks super good
This is an absolute testament to the sheer dedication of the Sonic community. Brandon Jones and anyone else working on this should be fucking proud
This is what Sonic Forces should have been
Someone needs to make a video comparing the original levels with the re-imagined versions, this is impressive
We won't need a re-imagining of this game anymore once the new one releases next month, but this is still a great mod. Shows the game's levels could've been better it had more level designers that were experienced with Sonic games.
I'm the all rounder type with a preference for most games from 2003 and beyond, and even I can't see where Frontiers has to offer than a possibly more serious story and neutered gameplay for wide open maps.
this was made with 2 level designers so
It's not a matter of number, but of talent.
2 of the 3 level designers for Forces were newbies that NEVER worked on Sonic.
And visibly they were just there to get the money and do the bare minimum.
@@ThibautMahringer thats pretty insulting tbh. Im pretty sure they tried. They just didnt know how to make sonic levels
@@Darkslayer1534 Especially considering how little time they actually got to actually developpe the game. That's of course not an excuse as Unleashed was done pretty quickly too, but being newbies + on a tight schedule? That's a recipe for disasters.
This is insane this game looks soo good now.
Dammit! If only this was in the game it would have been much more fun to play.
Fanbase: Want more remasters.
Sonic Team: " Ohh, guys let's remake Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic 3 and CD for hundred times!!! "
Like most of time, modders do what SEGA didn't. For real, the stages looks like they always should have been with main path and from it, you have take different pathways. Honestly, it worth the detour for a casual Forces playhrought with this mod. And if Cyberspace levels turn out like this, then it we will have something pretty nice to enjoy. It doesn"t feel that automatic and it's great that way, being a part of scenery. Combine with Harder Bosses mod and Forces is now an improved title to play. What modders did like here is extracting as much as possible all the potential they can get. While going throughout Sunset Heights, you can hear citizens screaming all around. Nice little details we now have here.
#SonicForcesRevampedEdition
This mod feels like forces improved, but still has the same problem as forces. Guardian rock still has the boring double boost section, but at least is a bit more cinematic with the chase. Rail grinding and boost rings and springs and boostpads make the game incredibly automated. The chemical plant pipe sections should have been like generations where u can run on them without it being automated.
Cap 🧢
"Like most of time, modders do what SEGA didn't"
That line wasn't necessary
@@royolaniye6643 Right? Like one the comparison is ignorant as ever (and for some reason every game that people don't like gets it), and for another (with no disrespect to modders or praise to Forces) what was done wouldn't be possible without the game itself
You could say that mod-DO-s what seg-CAN'T.
That last one was lazy, but so is Sega.
To think all Sonic Team had to do to make these stages more enjoyable is to, shockingly, make them long enough where you can hear the OST on one loop.
Sunset Heights
1. The smol cutscene with Sonic and (IMPOSTER) Shadow
2. the multiple Egg Bomber chase sections
3. the camera angles focusing on the Death Egg Robots showing their destruction
4. you can hear some civillians shouting for help or announcing evacuation protocols
Most of the level seems automated (a good 60% I can estimate)
but a large part of the level shows how much Eggman's invasion has affected normal civilians.
3:50 Me and the bois oow (on our way) to see the Mario Movie
I love how modders speak facts instead of trashing. This is how is done, wonderful job
What in a incredible era for gaming.
Fans can fix mediocre games now.
Expect good cyberspace levels in Frontiers before we get to 2027.
We still haven't seen any Cyberspace levels from Ares Island onward except for that one city level IGN showed, so maybe they get better
@@bobbovine Exactly what I heard in 2017 when they were showing Sunset Heights in Forces. I don't have much hope.
@@ThibautMahringer At least the cyberspace stuff is proven to be fun. Is it incredibly lazy? Yes. But they're good levels in their origin games, so they'll at least be good in Frontiers.
@@brycebitetti1402 I heard that the control sliders settings doesn't apply in Cyberspace, I hope the controls will be fine.
They seem worse than the original games the levels came from.
But at least they seem better than Forces.
@@brycebitetti1402Lol they were shit
Arsenal Pyramid is long enough to where the music LOOPS, GENIUS!!!
Man, this is a REALLY good mod! I'll have to put this on my copy for more replay value!
Wow the stages are way better, now that they're longer than a minute 😌
18:06 .........
PHYSIC!!!!
This is amazing! My jaw dropped when I saw sunset heights
8:56
Broo... If only that actually happened..
"Sonic Forces has no momentum"
Sonic Forces: 9:30
This actually feels like the Generations sequel we should have got. Not vanilla Forces.
This is the be mod of forces I've ever seen, it's truly amazing and so well made
Aqua road looks sick! 🔥
Makes me wanna install this game and download this. This looks amazing. Saw someone comment talking about the npc and environmental sounds. Defo agree. Overall the custom level design just makes you think this is what sega could have done. This game would have been so much better with this game play
My god I still can't believe Forces could have been the best boost game had they actually tried. . .
Probably not the best but as good as the others, definitely
@@ThibautMahringer eh imo i would've been the best boost imo
@@raphaelbrown6314 Well the controls are still dodgy so it would be hard for it to be the best one in my opinion
@@ThibautMahringer actually the controls in the mod were adjusted to have better physics, plus theres a patch to enable 360 degree movement instead of the 8 direction it does use
@@stanzacosmi In the mod yes, but even if the original game had similar levels to the mod, it would still have the same controls as the original
Wow! These look incredible. Maybe I'll actually consider playing this game once the mod is done.
bruh why is the sonic community better then sega at making there own game lol
Don't know why this is just straight facts 🗿
These kinds of comments are super innecesary
@@Banana807 your comment was super unnecessary
@@Banana807 I disagree. SEGA should do better.
Good job
The fact you can save Chao and their little pleas made my heart sink. 😢
It's been a long time since I've player Sonic Forces so I don't remember exactly what was changed, but I can see there's a a mini boss rushing sonic on the doubole booster scene, which I remember it wasn't there.
Sonic Forces: the *Playable* edition
Ok , the music in this game apparently is so good i though it was added in by the video creator but apparently it's in the actual game, i might have to check this game out myself.
"Sonic Forces" and the word "amazing" are three words I would least expect to be in a sentence. And yet...IT'S ACTUALLY TRUE? WHY IS THIS RE-IMAGINING SO GOOD??
It’s weird we live in a world where this game at launch was better then Sonic Colors Ultimate in every way imaginable, and even better with mods.
It’s a huge upgrade, and one that’s been overdue for years now.
8:44 that music sync is crazy
Question; How and why does Sonic fly in the air when you use a swingshot?
The power of friendship. Don't question it.
Oh my gosh. The levels.
They actually last long enough to have staying power.
Sega. You had fans work on Mania and it was a blast. Why not keep that trend up?
Sunset heights was beautiful, the atmosphere is just on another level
Sonic forces but auctally fun
Best part of this mod is that due to the extended levels, you can actually hear the songs in their fullest.
these remake are the best without a doubt it surpasses the original game
Well, at least we could enjoy the music for more the 20 seconds.
Also known as "If Sonic Forces were given a bit more development time"
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Duuuuude this is so cool man
Sonic Forces fans to fix the damn game
Sonic Forces but more longer !
I can belive it more than 2 minutes out of the pyramid!
When fans do better than Sega themselves :
I don't remember some of the lines said in levels, are they adding new lines? and if so are they getting the original VAs to voice custom lines, or just very good impressionists?
They were unused lines im assuming
The expanded portion of Sunset Heights blows my mind, it's so disappointing how in the original level it just ends all of a sudden and he's literally standing off to the side
Nice!
WOW DUDE
I wish the same thing would happen on the Switch.
Why all sonic games with great potential ended unfulfilling the fans expectations?
Now this… is the Sonic Forces we needed.
Just finished Sonic Forces in my Switch now i think its good, but RE-IMAGINED!? *italian kiss* magnífico
Imagine if Classic Sonic was replaced by G.U.N soldiers, the gameplay would be similar to E-102 Gamma gameplay from Adventure.
Dang, you missed out on 1 special stage!
If you collect enough Red Rings, you'll be able to play the second special stage of this mod, it's also one that I really like
Sunset Heights is just unreal....
Bro imagine if somebody remade this whole entire game hey if p-06 did it im sure somebody eles can do anything with sonic
I hope a sonic boom rise of lyric fan remaster or alternate version
Suprised this is even salvagable
Good job I guess
8:57 literally
"I found you faker"
I always call this mod Sonic Forces: REFORGED instead of the real name.
They need to patch forces and one of the updates should be this
This sonic forces mod looks so good and looks like it was from sega themselves! 😅
They made Forces with winding paths? And they're fun shortcuts!
(Insert Cr1t1k4L victory screech)
holy
f*ckin
sh*t
this is great, i mean, this is what Sonic should be like, it's awesome!
Wow this is real sick honestly I wanna see a mod with whispers Wispon or in other words a weapon who can use all the whisps
3:35 that drop was perfect
I'm positive if this was the product we received, it would still be derided given the nature of Sonic fans (if not just as disliked), but no way you can dock the work done here.
This is such a cool mod, honestly if this was what sonic forces was actually like I'd probably think it was an ok game.
Its just sad tho when you compare the real versions of these levels against the mod versions, the real versions just have nothing to them, they barely even count as levels
Y'know iw as wondering when the changes would begin but then i realized, this is it, EVERYTHING WAS CHANGED. and they're such good levels man
Shame the original game isn't like this
If Sonic forces had a Remaster:
Crap they actually look fun
Some people don't understand what makes sonic great
8:14 did this guy put the left 4 dead "no I think the monsters are the monsters idiot" graffiti in this mod
levels are 3 MINUTES LONG! I can't believe this
This is absolutely amazing. Now, if only we can find a way to improve the mediocre boss battles...
wow
actual thought out level design
it feels so alive now... how hard would it have been if sonic team just like... put effort into it 💀💀💀💀
if that's what you call amazing, let me present to you: sonic dash.