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Best Beginner Motorcycle under $2500 CSC SG250 Cafe Racer Review and Motovlog
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- čas přidán 8. 10. 2021
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In this video I go over the specifications of my 2019 CSC SG250 Motorcycle and go on a ride for a full review. It has been a while since I could ride so I am very excited to share this motovlog with you all!
This motorcycle is a great lower cost beginner bike for new riders and riders trying to learn the basics. The motorcycle has a top speed of about 70mph so it is also a great option for local and city commuting. This is the first motorcycle I owned so it holds a special place in my heart. I would never sell this bike! Any questions please comment below!!
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after riding 1000cc bikes for like 17 years, i want this bike.
i have a habit of using the entire speedometer. it's more fun to ride a slow bike fast vs a fast bike slow. these little bikes you can just full throttle everywhere and never get into trouble lol
You would love this bike it's a ton of fun to go full throttle and hold it. I recommend you also check out the newer SG400 it has more power and features. Would be more comfortable at higher speeds too, less vibrations
@@Kamdorian I been looking at that one and the moto guzzi v7.
Ultimately I'm probably going with a 250cc because I have zero self control 😆
Anytime I'm on a 1000 it's just zero to breaking the law in 2.9 seconds 😅
The fact you can get bored on 2 wheels is crazy too me my 50cc scooter is a rush and only goes 40 mph down hill and I scream h-yeaaaaa lol 😂 so 65 mph I be up top of the WORLD!!
Haha the need for speed is addicting! I still enjoy this bike once in and while but long duration rides get uncomfortable lol
@@Kamdorian lol that’s still awesome I love your hobby!!
I'm kinda looking to go backwards. I've been riding 1000cc bikes for over a decade but I want something slower lol😅 I have a habit of using the entire speedometer..
I want something slow and chill now 😂
You’ve gone up over 600 subs since you made this. Congratulations bud.
Thank you so much it is a great feeling to see all the subs and support from the community!!
Thanks for the videos man, been binging them since I ordered mine last week
Thank you I appreciate it! Congrats on ordering your bike, which one did you get? Are you going to do any mods?
@@Kamdorian I got the 2021 in grey. I want to do an exhaust but can’t find any info on that. I will definitely change the sprockets though
@@Saintsspec cool man, yea hard to find exhaust mods on the bike. You could probably find some from Asia check ebay and alibaba. Another thing you could do is just drill some holes in the end of the stock exhaust and it should change the sound to make it louder. Sprocket change will definitely give you a higher top speed too!
I thought about buying one of those but got a CSC RX3 instead. It has the paniers and top case, making it perfect for around town and commuting too. I put 1.2k miles on it over 5 months before putting it up for winter.
That's awesome, I feel I am too short for the adventure bikes but I do miss riding off road, maybe I'll get a dirt bike one day and find some trails near me. Ride safe!
They’re a beautiful bike too😃👍
@@hectorshouse7348 It's still running strong! To be honest, outside of a broken panier lock, I've not had any issues with it at all. Engine, no problems at all. After 5K miles, it hums right along.
@@jamesmziegler awesome, stay safe 😀👍
Congratulations on getting to one thousand subscribers!
I am still in the process of getting a RX4, but I may be able to get one early next year.
Thank you! The RX4 looks cool. Do you have any other bikes?
@@Kamdorian I did have a 1976 Yamaha Enduro 175, and a 1984 Yamaha Virago 750, but 20 years ago, I got divorced, and she got the bikes. I was in the military, and was quite busy, so I did not really need a bike at the time. Now retired, and looking to get back into riding again. For 16 years I have rode off road, and also on road, and put a crap ton of miles on both of them. I decided to try the RX4. I think it would satisfy both the on road, and off road riding I would like to do. Currently riding a bicycle, and walking until I get the bike. I am just on a financial roller coaster at the moment.
@@PaulsMotoZen Wow quite a journey man! I actually was looking at dirt bikes before I got my license and then bought my first street legal bike. I learned to ride on dirt bikes and nothing beats the fun of riding on dirt in the woods, making new trails. Plenty of off road riding areas here in NJ. I just wish I was taller to be more comfortable on adventure bikes.
i bought one. mine is a 2021 with all black exhaust. it sits in my backyard and is never used and no one wants to buy it. it was a waste of 3 grand. hmu if you live in south florida and want one of these for cheap. it has about 20-30 miles. carb has been taken out and cleaned due to cheap Chinese gas sitting inside it for to long upon purchase. $1500 or best offer.
Why not take it for a ride, you might fall in love!
also you need to tighten down the mirrors with an allen wrench and they wont do that. or change them to handlebar mirrors
@@Kamdorian because it scares me more to ride than my gxr1000
@@EzMatt90 lmao u went from 250 to gxr1000
@@Kamdorian nah man… I went from 1000 to 250 for my son and I think it’s not the best choice for him to learn on.
Beautiful bike…is she still running good?
Love the review😃👍
Thanks! Yessir running like a champ..sadly it's almost winter season here so she is going into winter storage
@@Kamdorian excellent I’m pleased…I’m looking to get something just like this very soon😀
@@hectorshouse7348 that's awesome. I would recommend you check out the newer SG400. It's more bang for the buck and will be more fun and comfortable to ride longer distance. I also have a video on the SG400.
Just bought one off OfferUp for 1700 hand about 400 miles. Thing sucks but for city or just riding and exploring the your town is cool don't plan on high way way too slow also back light went out first ride cheap light bulbs
Yea it's really just for city local riding and having fun. Not for highway or long rides. You got a great price for it. Should be easy to fix the light bulb. If you have trouble just reach out to csc customer service they are very responsive and helpful. Good luck and ride safe!
What do you think about doing a 600 mile trip and back on one of these (with extra gas cans of course) I’ve gotta get 1000 miles on a small bike before my dads allowing me to ride my R6 and I wanna get those miles as fast as I can
I would say it's probably not the best for that kind of long road trip especially if you are riding on long highways. What is your budget for the bike? Look into the CSC SG400 it's also on the smaller lightweight side but more power and will be way more comfortable on long rides on highways.
Great bike bro. Just got a LIFAN KPM-200
Wow that's a cool bike, I like that it's fuel injected. What is the top speed on it? How are the vibrations at speeds above 50mph? My SG250 is carbureted so I hope the fuel stabilizer did its job and prevented the carb from gumming up. Gotta start the bikes now that spring is almost here!
@@Kamdorian thanks man. Super solid. Around 80mph.
@@chrisrichtermindset cool man I wish I knew about the kpm before getting the sg250 haha. Ride safe!
Funny how people base "beginner bikes based on engine size. It's actually amusing sometimes.
Tends to be the case because beginners don't have the confidence to handle and be safe on larger engine more powerful bikes.
@@WingWalker1 😂 very true!
So let me understand this - at 2:42 you mention the MSRP is $2100.00 and also said you can get it delivered to your door for around $2600.00. Shipping cost exceeds the purchase price? So 4700 dollars for a Chinese single?
Shipping cost was only $500 so total delivered cost was $2600. That was also pricing when I bought it 3 years ago, pricing has changed now but still around $3000 delivered to your door. Considering the used bike market has gone sky high it's still a good deal but yes at the end of day it's a Chinese single lmao
Not even close to "under $2500". Price begins at $2495 and add mandatory doc & prep - $410, plus shipping that ranges from $350 to $500. Total cost if you live anywhere in the eastern part of the US = $3,405. Is this still the best bike at that price point?
Yea I got mine delivered for less than 2500 back in 2018-2019. Prices have drastically changed due to covid and inflation. Used bike prices have also sky rocketed in last few years so it's all relative.
It's on sale thru CSC 2198 + fee so still come out to 2600
Thanks for the video. What's your inseam, and are you able to put your feet flat on the ground? I'm extremely short, 5' flat with 26.5" inseam. I'm not sure how wide this seat is. I learned on a Kawasaki Eliminator with 26.8" seat height, and I had to tip toe it.
Yes I can easily flat foot it. I am 5'5" and the seat is about 10.5-11 inch wide.
Also the bike is very light so tip toeing or just leaning and putting 1 foot down is very easy without worrying about dropping the bike
@@Kamdorian Thanks for the info :)
Hey where in NJ are you? I'm in Rockland county. I have the city slicker...I love it BUT...I need a little more. It's alright, hits up to 55 but charging is annoying. I just hate the idea of a carburetor, doing the jets. I had a Grom clone and it was a nightmare for me.
Awesome man, carbs aren't that bad haven't had to clean anything out yet, the stabilizer in fuel helps. Had a 05 shadow spirit with carb before too and no major issues. More power is def more fun. I have a vulcan 650 that's fuel injected so no worries at all. Def prefer fuel injected bikes.
I love the Vulcan but not ready for that. Leaning towards the Yamaha Mt 03, trying to find used cuz $$. But if the sg250 can handle higher elevation without upgrades...I might bite. That's why I asked where in NJ. If you're north towards the mountains did you need to upgrade anything?
@@lonewolfxai9838 I'm in central area, no mountains here. The SG250 will probably struggle when going uphill. There is a section of my video where I am going slightly uphill and the bike slowly accelerates. I have heard people change about the sprockets to get more power and top speed. You would be better off with a bigger engine bike. The Vulcan 650 is actually very easy to ride and great for beginners as well. Plus you have plenty of power to use once you get more experience and comfortable. Bike is less than 500lbs so lightweight as well!
It’s like a 50cc moped
Thinking about buying this for my son's college commute (10 miles one way, city traffic.)
How is reliability so far? I see it got good old Lead Acid battery LOL, definately will install LiFePO4.
I figure even cheapo Chinese bike should be more reliable than 1967 Bridgestone (yes, the tire manufacturer, they made motorcycles back in the day) 200RS (2stroke twin) he currently rides. (It's my toy bike. I like vintage motorcycles.)
Pretty reliable so far, no issues here. Yes the battery is annoying have to top up with distilled water but it's not that hard. Battery gets recharged on battery tender no problem during winter. Oil changes are very easy to diy. This bike is perfect for short city commutes BUT in terms of comfort it depends on how tall and heavy your son is. The riding position is somewhat cramped even for me at 5'5.
@@Kamdorian Thanks. He is 5'6 so will be okay. He needs to park it behind a narrow gate (he is renting a room of regular single family home) so larger bike won't do. I can let him ride 1979 XT500 but that's already too big for the gate.
@@rackkimigayo8358 yea he should be fine on it. Could also consider the SG400 it's a newer slightly bigger and more powerful upgrade with fuel injection compared to the SG250 which has a carb.
@@Kamdorian Okay. Bought 2022 SG250 and picked it up. I see chock is now cable operated from handlebars and battery is maintenance free SLA. (I ordered LiFePO4 from eBay anyways.) CSC offer Shorai battery (Japanese) as an option but that's twice expensive as eBay battery (WPS featherlight which I have experience with my old GL1100.)
@@rackkimigayo8358 congrats! That's awesome that they improved the choke and battery. Can you send me the link to the battery you ordered? Hope your son enjoys the bike. Ride safe!!
How are the tires that come installed on the bike....would you run a different set instead
They are fine no issues so far. I know CSC sells off road style scrambler tires but I don't know how good they are.
could you do a video on oil change for that bike
Sure will try to make it soon, oil change is very easy just put the bike on the center stand, remove the oil and wash the metal filter, put it all back in and add new oil. Check out the CSC youtube channel I'm pretty sure they have a video on it but if not the user manual is very easy to follow. Good luck!
@@Kamdorian I appreciate it
Certainly that's a disc brake in the rear
Yeah my mistake I was thinking of the older models that have drum brake in the rear
Thanks for the video... I am a complete novice to motorcycles, and have been looking at this one for a bit. Considering purchasing sometime middle of next year. My issue is... I'm 6'4" and weigh about 190. Would I look like an idiot riding a kids bike if I bought this? I'm not a big speed guy, so 70-75 MPH top speed is more than sufficient for my needs.
I'm really only looking for a light commuter in-city (no highway) but, once I get comfortable, it would be nice to take long road trips, or take it on the highway to the airport about 90 minutes north. I fly a lot, and gas/airport parking is stupid expensive. Is this bike a good fit with all this criteria in mind, you think..?
It would be nice if this bike could reliably handle considerable interstate travel, since I would like to delve into that eventually. The buzziness is a bit of a concern in that respect, as well as seating position although that's less of a concern for me.
Any input would be much appreciated!
I would say with your height this bike would be too small and uncomfortable for any rides longer than 20 or 30 minutes. The seating position will be very cramped with your knees bent and also pressure on your wrists and shoulders with the low handle bars. I am 5'4" and about 150lbs and I get tired after about 45mins of riding this bike. You should look into the SG400 instead or a Vulcan S 650. The SG400 is a slightly bigger bike and has more power and higher top speed so less buzzines as well however It is more expensive (also get fuel injection, thicker tires, and overall higher quality). The Vulcan 650 has an ergo fit system that allows you to choose the best position for the foot controls, handle bars, and seat so you can get the optimal riding position for your height. It's also much more poweful but very beginner friendly so you can grow into the bike and not get bored of it quickly. The best thing you could do is go to some bike shops and sit on different bikes to see how they feel. Good luck and ride safe!
@@Kamdorian Awesome, thanks a bunch!
92.5% 😬 , thats a huge percentage. Hopefully, it goes down soon. 😊
yea I was surprised it was that huge too! I hope the same!!
I live in California where can I purchase this bike ??
Check out the CSC website here cscmotorcycles.com/cafe-racer/. You can order the bike online for delivery or go to their store in Azusa, CA and pick up the bike.
@@Kamdorian thank you !!!! I will check them out 👍🏽🍩
Can you ride on highway for extended period of time. 65 mph is the limit where I am?
The bike is very buzzy and gets uncomfortable at 60-65mph for long period of time. It can certainly hit that speed but you won't enjoy the ride that much. 10-30min ride is fine but longer is not really fun. End of the day it all depends on your comfort level and also seating position. If you have long highway rides then look at the SG400 or a bigger bike.
Yeah it would only be about 20-30 max when I do go on highway. Mostly back road driving where’s its 55 limit
You better be very mechanically inclined, or have a friend that's one, because no shop will touch one of these.
The regular maintenance stuff is very easy. They also provide manuals with lots of pictures and even have videos on some of the trickier stuff. Their customer service is also very helpful. But yes must have some mechanical knowledge and the motivation to get your hands dirty and learn something new!
If a mechanic isn't able to handle this simple engine, I certainly wouldn't trust them to work on anything else.
What’s the fastest it can go?
Depends on rider weight and road conditions. Max is around 50-60mph and at those speeds it's very buzzy and uncomfortable.
It’s great if you live on an island
Very true! Or a city
Can I drive this without a License?
It's a street legal bike so you need a license to ride it
ok but that's a disk brake on the back...
You are correct! I don't know why I said drum brake, I think the older model had a drum brake.
Trident 660!
Lifan kpm200 or this bike?
I'm not sure but if the kpm200 is 200cc then I would go for the sg250 since it's actually higher than 200cc so you get little more power.
@@Kamdorian
The carbureted, air-cooled SG250 is 14 HP. The KP200 is a fuel-injected, water cooled engine with 17 HP.
The CSC/Zongshen engine is a much refined unit based on a 1975 Honda engine. It is the most reliable and easy to service motorcycle engine in current production. Performance improving parts are plentiful as this is the engine in all of those "Chinese enduros". Not all are made by ZS (which you want). If one wants an introduction to maintaining a bike, and hope to improve performance over time, SG250 is the one.
The Lifan engine is a fully modern design and under many millions of seats in Southeast Asia. Parts are mostly plentiful but you'll be ordering over Ebay from Asia. Similarly simple to maintain and repair, but no "hop up" parts worth mentioning.
So who works on this bike when it breaks down?
I work on it myself..had no major breakdown issues so far. CSC also provided a very detailed manual with pictures to fix any issue you have and they have CZcams videos on how to do stuff. It's not that complicated of a bike that you would need some special mechanic to fix. Very much diy and I'm sure any bike mechanic would be able to figure out if major fix is needed. CSC customer service is also very responsive and will help you with any step by step fixes.
Some of us are capable of doing our own work on our cars and motorcycles. Crazy, I know!
Do you need a license for this bike?
Yes you need a motorcycle license. It is a street legal bike and requires license plates, registration, and insurance.
top speed on site says 68mph
Yup but I have seen some people get higher and lower top speeds. Depends on rider weight and road conditions as well.