Garnt's Doctor Tried to Steal $30,000 From Him
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My mom went to 6 different doctors for a jaw pain problem.
They recommend maybe she needs a tooth procedure.
They removed a tooth but the pain persisted.
She went to another doctor with her complaints of pain, and he referred her to someone who may know more and that specialist deals with nerves in the jaws. Very specialized.
He immediately confirmed some nerves in her jaw are pinching and that's why she was feeling pain. It borders in the outside of the jaw and has nothing to do with her teeth.
She had her tooth removed for nothing and she was pissed.
My mother had TMJ and went to the doctor for it. The doctor immediately jumped to the conclusion that my father had been beating her, despite no evidence to that effect.
I've had the same experience. In my experience dentist who aren't TMJ specialist are unable to really help like we want them too. Like they didn't know at all what's the cause and suggested getting wisdom teeth removed and braces to correct my misaligned teeth. I don't think they were right, but not 100% wrong. I did remove my wisdom teeth and it helped a bit with the pain. My top right wisdom tooth radiated heat/pain, so with it gone I don't feel the agony that's so bad I considered ripping it out on my own. Still my jaw pain exist. I do need to see a specialist, but in America that means they charge way more than normal doctors, so it's a big commitment. I called one and was told that without Insurance it would be 300-500 for the consultation.
@@cww2490
I know what you mean. I have a weak enamel problem with my teeth. My insurance (I was on my dad's insurance at the time) covered the prosthidontist consult, but he said my teeth needed like $16,000 worth of work. He wanted to do caps and/or crowns on like 12 of my teeth.
@@jrm48220 TMJ fucking suuuucks.
I had 4 perfectly healthy teeth removed just to fit braces in my mouth that i did not need to begin with. I totally understand why she would be pissed
That’s why so many Americans self-diagnose themselves based on the Internet.
Your doctor asking your first name is already $300
I had a depression question screening that charged me .01 cents no joke. Got a statement in the mail and everything
Getting charged money for someone to ask me questions. America has only the best of healthcare systems.
@@MicusII it’s so good it’s the third thing that kills most Americans right next to cancer and cardiovascular disease at number one
It's just sad.
Just breathing inside a doctor's room costs $50 lol
POV: You break your arm in America
POV: Your doctor hands you a Tylenol in America
Nah bro, for that it’d be more like 150000$
And if the doctors knows ur salary is slightly above average, well then ur screwed
Nah realistically I had a Canadian friend who broke his leg in the US and I think the bill came to $40k or so
POV: You are a crusty 300lb jobless incel in America with zero knowledge of anything outside your moms basement, and didn't watch all of video.
I personally broke my elbow 2 years ago in Florida on vacation and the xray, pain meds, and cast was only 800$ at the Total Access Urgent Care there, no insurance needed. Yall just parrot whatever you've heard online, don't ya?
@@laggyvulture1245 jokes on you my doctor behind the public library gets me home made drugs!
But honestly healthcare is ridiculous in the states
Especially Dental care am not paying 7k to 5k for braces. I rather cosplay as an average British person with my teeth.
Had Back Pain when I was 25, ignored it. Felt a snap, went to the Doctors and wrote it off as nothing. Felt it again two months later and they told me that I had a fracture after I insisted I get an X-ray despite them telling me it would be a waste of time. They then did an MRI and then found out I had Stage 4 Hodgkins Lymphoma and that it was slowly eating away my back which is why I had the back pain half a year prior to that time and why I had the fracture.
Happy to say that I am now 2.5 years in Remission but that was a crazy time.
jesus fucking christ hope you getting some big fat Ws man
Sorry who tf said getting an xray would be a waste of time?? it's like one of the cheapest and quickest procedures with the lowest risks involved. Glad you insisted despite that and glad for your recovery!
Why the f are they concerned about you spending your money life wtf
Garnt: "This is absurd!"
Americans: "First time?"
America land of the over priced medical bills. One day I hope we can end the medical bills tyranny.
Damn it hasn’t even been an hour yet lol
Europeans: what is health insurance? oh you mean I can pay less in taxes and still have cheaper and better health care?
@@notuxnobux the better healthcare is a very debatable topic. there's a reason all the rich people go to the us for treatment
@@maniv100 rich people come to the USA for experimental or cutting edge treatment. Shit you don’t need for run of the mill health services
I was on a slow train to Hakata back in 2006 and a random old lady came over and gave me a rice ball. Really surprised me. She was in her 70’s and I had cherry red hair, A ton of tats and I’m huge. She just smiled, offered me the food and asked if I need help getting to my destination. Lovely woman
You think this is bad? Ambulance services are so fucking awful in America there are people who will break something and beg their friends to drive them or call them an Uber so they don't have to pay for the ambulance.
You have to *pay* for an emergency transport. And that's not factoring in what the actual emergency room will cost.
You don't need to pay. It falls off after 5 years. Had to get one called for me 2 years ago, still haven't paid and they haven't sent me a bill.
@@JoshuaGraves113 depends on which state you live in & which state the service was used in. What's even worse is that almost each state has completely different rules. It's terrible.
@@gunbladeuser19 I live in TN.
Actual Dystopia jeez
I had a similar story to Garnt where I was feeling nauseous all the time so I went to the dr and they were like "think you should get your gallbladder removed." so I'm like "ok, chill, gonna check out another dr first." So I see another one and they're like "You have an eating disorder, go on this diet." And I did and they're just like "Yeah, you'll just have to live with it. It's not going away." So I'm like, "ok chill, gonna check out another dr first." so I go to an out of state clinic and they're like "yeah, you have bowel problems." so 3 different doctors have told me 3 different things.
Never ever ever trust a doctor who doesnt run tests. Then make sure you say, "if you arent going to send me for test, make sure you put it in my file". Most will only do their job when threatened sadly. GPs are useless
@@MyLittleGreenHairdedMermaid I got tests, they're just clueless
No anti-nausea drugs?
U kw what u call med student who graduated bottom of their class? A doctor, lol. Unfortunately there r a lot of shit doctors out there as much as able ones.
@@alexandervowles3518 The second doc gave me some, yeah
I can relate to the dentist stuff. Some dentist wanted to drill to kingdom come in my teeth and charge me $6000 usd for like 5 teeth. I go to another dentist in the US and they are like you only have one cavity the rest of the teeth only have stains which could become cavities in the future. Dentistry is a scam in America. Sounds like it is similar all over the world. You never know who to trust. I guess we create that trust based on how much pain we are in and what we can tolerate and then hope for the best lol.
Where did you go? I got over charged for 5 cavities one time, and it was only a little more than 1k. If I had shopped around and went where I was covered I could have gotten it done for less than half.
New Zealand for some reason has universal health care but not dentistry. Cost about 300 for the last time cracked a tooth. Would have been double that if I had done what I should have and gone to an emergency dentist
I had a similar experience with getting my wisdom teeth removed one dentist wanted to charge me 1,500 bc it was a "complex" procedure. I went to a different dentist and he took one look at my x-rays and said "yeah that's super easy we can get you scheduled for this week and your insurance will fully cover it". He also let me keep my teeth and i made jewelry out of them lol
apparently my dentist as a kid got caught doing fake cavaties and sued to kingdom come
Yeah especially when they are private, I had one tell me at the age of 25 that I need all my teeth removed and pay like an absurd amount of money. Went to a public one (since I wanted one that deals with like patients that are scared) and he just said oh your wisdom teeth need to get out (I was 27 at the time), some teeth needed new feeling and a cleaning procedure (I paid only for the anesthesia like 200€). My current dentist is a lovely lady where I don't even need anesthesia. I just need an anesthetic injection for the general pain.
healthcare stories oh boi american healthcare
Long story short, i've been sick all my life, unable to keep my weight and hold in food. Years, i suffered, multiple doctors and hospital visits with just shrugs. As i got older, many doctors started to call me crazy to my face and say i was doing this for attention.
Flashforward to me being extremely malnourished and having liver failure. turns out I don't digest food properly. The kicker? the test that confirmed this, I had had many years before....it had 2 parts...they never did the second part. More of a kicker, another doctor knew what i had when i was 9 and never said anything thinking i would grow out of it...I was diagnosed properly at 22
Now i live with this forever, thankfully with medication that helps.....only problem...America has semi-banned this medicine and i have to have it brought in from Canada
Moral of the story, there are good doctors and those who care...but lord do you have to go through hoops to find them
I had jaw issues too.
I couldnt open my mouth fully. Like its jammed halfway. Couldnt eat properly.
Been to the dentist (3 in total)
1st one said i need a surgery as my soft bone got dislocated. (It kinda is jutting into the jaw joints)
Thats a big fucking commitment n he wanted me to book the surgery appt on the spot.
Told him i wanna think abt it.
Went to another dentist for 2nd opinion. This dentist did my braces. She took a look, confirmed it wasnt a braces issue, but told me it was out of her field. Referred me to a 3rd dentist.
Went to 3rd dentist. Apparently he is some bigshot in my country that specializes in niche mouth issues.
He took a look at my xray, my jaw, touched it, and asked me:
"U feeling stressful? This is caused by stress"
(I was studying for a national exam then and yes, i was stressed as hell)
He then took a ice cooling spray (those that athelete use for muscle soreness), spray it on my jaw muscles, asked me to slowly open, and it opened.
Apparently me being in constant stress = tensing up my muscles esp when im sleeping = muscles got locked = soft bone partially dislocated due to muscle contractions
I was only charged a few bucks, told to use ice packs on my jaws n do stretching jaw exercises. I could open my jaw from then on. I was warned of relapses tho, so whenever im feeling stressed, i could feel my jaw muscles tightening and i would need to do the ice pack + muscle stretch again to prevent my jaws from locking.
Fyi, this is why the mouth guard helps. It prevents ur jaw muscles from straining ur joint even more.
I bet the first dentist works in Shanghai and the third in Sichuan or Beijing? XD
Imagine you went a restaurant ordered some food, and didn’t get it because you were apparently not hungry, and the restaurant tries to charge you 300$. This is healthcare in the US.
Now suppose, god forsaken, that you were hungry and you got your order. Then you eat it, only to find the cost of the burger was 30,000 (non-negotiable). Yikes.
oh wow.. good thing I'm in the UK hah
@@Asad-yc8kv Yea, don't stress on that. We're not far off by the way we're going, fucking Boris
That's not quite right... the prices seem low XD
I played sports all my life. I noticed that I became short of breath sooner than everyone else. I was probably 12 or 13. I thought I was just out of shape, but I was doing all the same practice and workouts. I went to a doctor, he said I just have allergies. A couple years later, I went to another doctor; allergies. Repeat a couple more times and I'm like 30. This doctor says I have allergies. I say, "no" I think I have asthma. He tested for asthma. Yep. Finally correctly diagnosed. I take my puffs. All of a sudden, I can play a whole basketball game with no breaks. I was so pissed that I wasted my childhood years playing sports and getting tired too soon. All because of lazy doctors.
My doctor is [What I'm assuming Pakistani] and he immigrated to the U.S, he has a thick accent but when he speaks to patients he usually tries to "Amercanize" it. He is fully aware of how weird and fucked the American Health system and he does his very best to help his patients as well he can. The point I'm trying to get is finding a good doctor that you can trust is difficult and I'm glad the doctor I go to for literally my entire life [His clinic was a Children clinic and as I was growing up it turned into a regular clinic].
Yet he’s making BANK
@@TheRockkickass and? Lul
@@TheRockkickass I mean, doctor making a bank is common considering how expensive and how hard is their medical school. My brother is a doctor and he barely stay in home as doctor and student so it's only fair he is rich because man, that's a lot of sacrifice and dedication to medic and patient.
Some doctors in my country actually getting paid in veggies and fruits after they help people in rural area. They don't mind and considered it as volunteering and I think they have enough money so they are not in financial problem.
What dangerous is when a doctor is being materialistic.
@@mitacestalia7532 a doctor is allowed to be materialistic if they want. I would be. Why work for free
took me nearly 10 years to be diagnosed for a skin condition i have...
Doctors kept blaming my lack of good self care/clenliness, my weight, my long hair fir it but no matter what i did- wash more, exersized more, ate better, nothing changed. I went to adifferent doctor one time and she instantly said 'yep, you need to see a dermatologist (specialist skin doctor) asap'. coupple of months waiting (thanks covid), and got the apointment and they instantly diagnosed me. no questions. Doctor only had to look at me for 5 minutes.
All this money, time and energy wasted on thinking it was something else because the doctor i was with was stubborn and refused to think it was anything else. I was stressed out over it for years because i was bullied in school for it- and guess what can trigger the condition also- stress.
to say i was pissed is a bit of an understatement. Condition cant be cured but its waaaaaay better than what it was thanks to being put on proper medication and less stressed and worried about wondering what it is.
That's sucks, but apart from the money and bullying, luckly your lifestyle improved. It almost never hurts to eat better, exercise more and wash more. So at least they didn't do irrevertable damage. But still, yeah shit to hear that.
Reminds me of the time my sister was having jaw pain, so her ex boyfriend who’s a firefighter went “I can fix it!” and then tried to “crack her jaw back into place” Well because of that stupid move she can’t open her jaw all the way anymore. She can open it wide enough that it doesn’t inconvenience her, she can eat just fine, she just can’t open her mouth all the way.
I’ve told her to go to a doctor and maybe even sue her ex boyfriend, but she’s resigned herself to living with it.
bro... wtf
Sounds like a cover-up... That guy seems idiotic either way.
pff think thats bad, imagine an airport having you pay $4000 to reschedule a $1000 ticket
At least that’s a choice and not healthcare
@@nash6472 eh it’s either pay to get the ticket out or lose your $1000, still an L
@@jwizdum2103 not being able to get on your plane and not being able to afford you medication arent the same type of L
@@nash6472 What if it's a plane home?
@@randomduck8679 I mean that sucks but it’s not life or death
POV: you see a man crying in the street. Your mind blown that no one is asking him if he’s ok. You then proceed to also do nothing...
I work on IT and I feel super anxious seeing people expecting doctors to immediately accurately diagnose the issue without being able to try multiple possible solutions.
This is one area where as a developer I think AI could be very useful. Not diagnosing issues directly per se, but referring you to the correct type of human specialist for your issue.
Me, from America: 30,000? That's all?
*goes back to cooking dinner in cardboard box*
I had a sprained ankle.
Thanks Garnt for broaching this important topic, and all the boys for dealing with it so respectfully and honestly.
Self-diagnosis is valid.
Many born females with ADHD or Autism HAS TO self-diagnose because it's often pretty much impossible for them to get diagnosis. Never mind if they're part of minority group. You're highly privileged, not just because you have access and money to health care, to get the diagnoses and help you need especially as neurodiverse person.
There's no other option to many than do it themselves and just try to survive. Society often sucks when almost all the conditions have been researched and tested on white males. Until we get that fixed - nobody can say never to self-diagnose.
Also often times, self diagnosis is the first step to getting a diagnosis (if youre able to). A psychologist wont drop from the sky and be like "hey you have X"
And its definitely not just, "i saw a tiktok so i am X" and more like "i have spent days-months reading about this, checking the DSM5, listening to/and talking to people with this thing"
And even after doing all that the imposter syndrome is a bitch
In Belgium you have a few options :
1) Go see a psychologist (so not a doctor) who charges 60-70$ an hour, not reimboursable by social to sell you HIS program. Doesn't care about your problems, you or whatever. They are mostly underqualified to even understand psychological issues.
2) Go see a psychiatrist reimboursable by social (so about 20$ an hour). Knowledgeable, "cares" about your health and has the tools to help. Waiting list goes from months to year and you're lucky if you can book 1-2 session every month of 50min. So basically barely enough time to tell what's wrong
3) Go see a private psychiatrist like in the movies every week. About 100-120$ an hour if not more, dude is probably overbooked with rich clients if he's any good (like a dentist)
You are mostly fucked honestly
Garnt, sounds like Temporomandibular Joint (TMJ) disorder. It can be caused by trauma, an improper bite, arthritis or wear and tear. Common symptoms include jaw tenderness, headaches, earaches and facial pain. I have TMJ as well, when I got braces I had a pallet widener installed since I had what’s called a cross bite. I was too old for the pallet widener, and the orthodontist wanted to break my lower jaw. Told him fuck no, and he said I would get it, and I did. There are some exercises and massages that you can do to ease the pain. There are two doctors on CZcams who make physical therapy videos and have one on TMJ.
Thank you for writing the full version of TMJ, I was wondering why everyone talked about the Michael Jackson
I just saw this the other day looking up why I was feeling pain, coincidentally. Was not related.
In answer to Joey's question why the GM refers you to the hospital is they can't keep up with the diagnosis for everything. If they're unsure they want you to get checked somewhere that can treat you and verify things if you are having symptoms that could mean something serious. The hospital doctor then looks at you with the eyes of someone who's used to seeing the serious version and is able to tell the difference because they see it a couple of times a week and knows the subtle differences. Or, option B for the just in case is the GM doesn't want you to sue if he's wrong and something bad goes untreated.
I told my dentist of mouth pain when I was younger and she recommended I go to a specialist and the specialist told me the muscles in my face were slightly deformed. It was diagnosed with lock jaw, and if I chew for too long or too hard my jaw pops out of the joint and locks open for a while. It is painful and if it happens too often I could permanently damage the joint. It's not fun.
1:55 literally the plot of Boogiepop
The title of the video was just 5 seconds of the entire conversation
My medical insurance company has made me cry twice this month because they don't want to pay for the treatment the Dr prescribed. I pay 430 a month for this insurance btw.
I'm sorry
I’ve had dentist tell me different things too. 😂
9:29 damn Garn't was brutal here xD
Garnt please go to an OMFS, oral maxillo facial surgeon. Dental student here.
someone needs to tweet this to him!!
@@EvenInArcadiaIExist yes !!!! Or just like this comment so they notice it
anyone know what the green rock shirt is? i’m so new to trash taste i can’t remember any of their names but i love the shirt and if it’s a real manga i need to read it
As someone with a few mental disorders (depression, anxiety, adhd, autism, and narcolepsy if that counts as mental) I thought everyone just suffered the same as me. Even after finding out it's not normal I still have issues understanding how people even live normally; I just can't comprehend how people can do everyday things. I'm still pretty stuck on what to do and maybe that's why I'm writing this all in the first place, but medicine never worked on me and when it did, I only got the negative side effects. Therapy didn't help after going a few years, diet and exercise and going outside don't help either. I can't work and make money which also makes my anxiety and stress levels higher, which in turn makes everything else worse, so it's kind of a never ending cycle of suffering. Doctors have ripped me off a lot too, like forcing me to do things I don't want and then charging me hundreds for it, luckily it wasn't 30k though
And as for the people that self diagnose, it's kinda cringe but it doesn't really have anything to do with me, nor has it affected me in anyway. I know they shouldn't do it but people do stupid things all the time so I just don't think about it.
The whole self diagnosing is depending I think, like for some ppl it's stress relief having what their going through explained and understood and going to the doctor maybe it takes longer or maybe they're more reluctant to go or any other sort of issues they have. Of course there are those extremes where like u guys said they'd self diagnose for the badge but u don’t know whether they have or they haven’t, a lot of the time ppl just doubt and say nasty shit. I recommend watching sweet Anita’s video on it, she talk about just the amount of shit she and other ppl with Tourettes get with just ppl being doubtful and shit. It’s much better to let a liar go than cause pain to another person because no matter how sure u are that they're lying u're not a doctor either.
I remember for some reason in middle school it was “cool” to be ADHD. I was undiagnosed until college, but I was treated like dirt by my peers for what I later found out were my behaviorisms resulted from my ADHD. If these kids could’ve felt the same hell I was going through, they’d never think it was cool. Mental health disorders suck and anyone who wears them as a badge for brownie points sucks even more.
I’ve got ADHD too, for me it’s not hell at all, in fact I quite enjoy having it.
Autism too.
It's times like these that I wish they had an American at the table to let them know what expensive REALLY is.
Same , there are problems with self diagnosing but going bankrupted for 3 years just isn’t an option to get told „yeah so it’s probably depression not sure tho, you could try this pill for 300$ , but it will only help 15% of the time“
No wonder so many people do it especially in mild cases because otherwise you loose a lot of money just so is written on a paper , witch in turn could ruin your career because you now count as unreliable( in case of mental health)…
Americans need a better healthcare system and a hug because…. My god
I actually ended up crying on the street (a sidewalk) in the UK (Manchester) when I was there in 2018 (long story, relationship disaster) with tons of people walking by and no one said anything to me.
What was his jaw problem?
if it is a form of TMJ a night guard actually works best. It could be grinding/clenching of teeth during sleep to cause Jaw problems. That is what mine was.
Americans: "Those are rookie numbers"
I find it's worse with vets. My dog has a skin problem and her skin started turning black, very itchi with hair loss. One vet said it was bacteria, other fungi, other fake pregnancy, other allergies.
As a human at least I can decide to deal with the pain but with animals you don't have that possibility. Who am I supposed to trust?
Anyone know what shirt that is Garnt is wearing?
i had a doctor ask if i wanted to kill myself when i just went in cuz i had acne, then he proceeded to tell me to go do gardening with my nan to cure my acne after rambling about pedophile rings in the government
i got a blind spot in my right eye which i tried telling to a doctor over and over and he kept saying 'no its just a eye floater' no dude its static-y and coin sized in the middle of my eye and i cant see anything through it, went again to another doctor and they said that everything was fine, went to an optician and they just ignored me every single bloody time i told them about the blindspot and just kept doing a stupid ordinary eye test to see if i need glasses I'M GODDAMN HALF BLIND IN MY RIGHT EYE, still to this day it isn't resolved after a few years but it hasn't got any worse at least, i just woke up one day partially blind which was heckin weird
had problems with my nose for ages and my breathing, again still to this day, and ive been to the doctors four times now and every time they give me antibiotic cream to use which doesnt do anything and when i say it doesnt work they just tell me to put vaseline in my nose which again i do multiple times every day and it only slightly improves it
the only time a doctor actually bloody helped me was when i broke my arm falling down the stairs, at least that doctor didn't botch it for me thank god
I have the exact same eye problem you probably have a scratched cornea. Now let me say that shit is expensive to fix it's in the range of like $27k-36k and my actual eye doctor never caught either, America's Best the chain of eyeglasses shops is who found it. For the longest time I thought I was just stupid, and getting the wrong prescription glasses. But no actual medical problem
they eye thing sounds similar to what i have, but instead of a weird static spot my brain just autofills it.
I literally know and can tell them what caused it but opticians just try to assign me glasses.(literally had a chunk of brick stuck under my eyelid)
turns out i was also farsighted and the glasses i ended up with did the opposite of help
@gray cardinal
I’m very convinced your nose problem is a deviated septum. Has it gotten worse the longer you had it? It can be partially genetic or happen naturally (like getting wacked in the face). It’s almost like a broken nose but your breathing is impaired because the nose can be slightly pushed in or the bone inside is preventing air flow.
The easiest way to tell is if you feel you can’t take in a full, deep breathe like you used to.
Go to an ENT specialist (look at reviews first if you can). The solution is surgery and recovery takes two-three weeks. I will say this- recovery is going to feel terrible. You need to breathe from your mouth for a few days . But I promise you once you are in the clear, you feel so, SO much better.
Prices vary depending on insurance and the clinic that performs it. But seriously consider it if it is a deviated septum. If you feel like it has been getting worse the longer you wait, that means it will continue to.
@@NEMelodies it has gotten worse over the years, my sister seems to have a similar issue to me though hers is nowhere near as bad so it could be genetic, however no other family members have had this problem which is odd
i missed out some important info, what seems to be causing me not being able to breathe properly is that my nose is constantly slightly bleeding or something similar, and scabs form inside my nose that block my entire nose, plus its both nostrils. it happens really fast too, a couple times a day my nose just gets blocked up and in the mornings when i wake up
@@doggosuki yeah that definitely sounds like a deviated septum.
The thing is, it can still be genetic but your family doesn’t notice they have it. Sometimes it is so unnoticeable and doesn’t affect their daily lives.
With your sister it sounds like only one side could have a deviated septum. With you it is possible the problem went on so long you have cartalidge (I forgot how to spell it) build up deeper inside.
I highly recommend going to the ENT. They literally have cameras that can see the inside of your nose.
Also pro tip: if you do get the surgery, have someone to stay with for a week. It is much easier when you have someone to care for you. After a week you are mostly sufficient
You could say Connor is down with the sickness
His jaw problem could be muscle related. I'm surprised that no one referred him.
This seems pretty similar to how vets try and help your pet. One vet will say if we don’t treat this your pet will die another will be like nah your pet is fine just had a thorn in their foot I took it out. Like what is with medical stuff?
I remember back in the day the joke going to conventions was tuck a 50 in the sock for the ambulance.
Braces... 30 THOUSAND POUNDS? I just had my top braces installed yesterday, they were 360 pounds and I opted for self ligating braces, which are twice the price of regular metal braces. I live in Romania. What.
The Dentist has been the one thing I've had no issues with in the US (granted I go to a smaller dentist, so I suspect that's the difference) so I count myself lucky. Going to the doctor even WITH insurance is still 110 dollars for the visit.
That's the thing about our health care people don't get. You can very well be brought back from the brink of death or even past. Doctors can and will do just about anything possible but that requires an equal price for everything that's put into healthcare.
It definitely could be cheaper and more accessible to the average person don't get me wrong. But you're paying the actual cost of some of this stuff.
@@M7S4I5L8V2A as if other countries don't have the same quality of care with same or better access from not being limited by insurance networks.
$110 for a visit with insurance is a literal scam.
One of my friend (I live in Europe) can't go to Texas because he need to pay something like $30 000 to an hospital
The crying in the street thing is not better in uk. Few days ago I had to do some things in my city and this dude was just walking around crying. Although to be fair he was shouting that he was going to beat someone up. Anyway point is that no one even tried talking to the guy.
Yeah, the boys are probaly not aware of the extensive ammount of expirements and research about sociology and especially in the case of men, people don't want to approach to make it their problem, lose time since they got places to go, you don't know what you are getting into, etc.
Watching this as someone who lives in Netherlands is fun. Insurance takes care of most my needs.
2:27 psycho pass
You need to go to an actual orthodontist not a dentist 🤩
They will correctly diagnose the problem and advise treatment options.
A dentist will then remove any teeth if required in accordance with the treatment plan 😁
In my case, my dentist did give me the right diagnosis, but of course she sent me to an orthodontist, gave me recommendations and advice. Yesterday I just got my top braces on 👍
Wait did connor ever ask the guy if he was ok
With self-diagnosis.
In Autistic circles, you get diagnosed by those around you.
And by no coincident you end up making friends with Autistic people.
The problem already starts from before you go to the doctor or hospital. A ambulance ride for 4 blocks is thousands of fucking dollars.
Never trust referrals in US. Better to do your own research and make sure it’s within your insurance.
I broke my shoulder in a skating accident in 2016, had to have orthopedic surgery, thankfully my mom is a doctor and I literally had the university of Colorado football sports medicine surgeon do my surgery and good insurance, but the bill was $68,000 dollars, only had to pay about $500 for it because insurance covered the rest. But imagine if you don’t have insurance, you’re fucked!
Your bandaid costs $100,000. Cash or credit.
Dental student here. There is actually quite a bit of debate within the dentistry community on how to approach wisdom teeth. Some dentists feel that it’s best to take them out in certain circumstances while others don’t think it’s always necessary. Unfortunately, it’s not uncommon to hear completely different advice between dentists.
My advice is to try to find a dentist who is willing and able to explain their clinical rationale to you. It’s your teeth-don’t be afraid to ask questions and to explore your options.
@Subi It depends. If an impacted tooth is directly causing pain or other symptoms, a dentist or oral surgeon will usually extract it. If it isn’t directly causing symptoms, there’s a number of different factors that need to be considered (e.g. the location of the cranial nerves, patient’s age and health, the direction and extent of the impaction, etc).
This is where the debate arises because some doctors believe that all wisdom teeth (regardless of whether it’s causing problems or not) should be taken out while other dentists don’t want to put patients through surgery without a good reason.
For example, I have two horizontally impacted wisdom teeth. One was removed because it prevented me from brushing the area properly and caused cavities the tooth in front of it. However, the other impacted tooth was left alone because it didn’t negatively affect my oral hygiene in the area + it runs really close to a nerve.
@Subi No problem, and I hope your recovery is going well!
i had pretty awful tooth pain last month and got it checked out at a dentist local to me, and was given the options of pulling it, or a root canal. the root canal was over $3000, and the pull was $1100 since I didn't have insurance. went to another dentist, who told me a pull would cost me $300. turns out, the first dentist required a bone graft, and refused to do the procedure without it, why the fuck do I need a bone graft in my mouth?
Self diagnoseing isn’t ideal , agreed but getting a diagnosis ESPECIALLY for mental health is extremely expensive and often Not rigth. The amount of doctors who missdiagnos based of „too young for that“/ „your gender don’t have that“ etc is way to high
Because women aren’t able to have autism or adhd and men can’t have an eating disorder?????
(Like pls look into it there is a book they give children and ask them what they see to determine if they are autistic. This method is based on a study that had like 20 test subjects…. Like at this point googleing your symptoms is more accurate)
So like Self diagnosing isn’t ideal but if you think … ah i migth have a mild case of adhd because I check multiple boxes… lemmi try stuff that helps others . Like fair if you ask me but yeah for like „I am unable to live and need help „ it’s definitely bad
Edit : I don’t know the name off the book but if you search for frog book and autism a looooot comes up . And the sample size was 11 autistic children and 17 „normal „ ones as a control???? So even worst than I remembered. And yes this method gets used and according to many it’s incredible frustrating to the patients.
Like a normal game theory video is more accurate (no shade in general the idea could be good but the sample size is horrible and it’s getting used as a yes or no thing … not a maybe . 11 children aren’t enough to scale up to the whole world)
A milf case of ADHD? Yo where do I go to get that upgrade?!
@@fluidthought42 Lmao lemmi just correct that xD although a milf case seems a lot nicer , just a lot of hot moms being scatterbrained lmao
3rd world country here, just 25cent usd for any medical checkup and medication lol. About mental health stuff, the crazy danger to society got locked up, depression mood swings stuff just got deal by counseling, reality check and a lil bit of religion.
3rd world country here too. we end up paying with our time instead of money, also you still have to find a good doctor who actually cares
@@dragoon0anime yeah working for at least 100 years without spending in order to get 1mil usd what a life this is
@@dragoon0anime it depends tho, because a lot of the time people either go to the wrong services (like going to emergency for a back pain) or arent aware of the benefits the law gives them regarding certain conditions, so they just dont use the more aprpropriate channels to get attention.
Obviously time considerations are a valid critique of public healthcare in a lot of circumstances, but I would say that a lot of times people complain due to them not knowing where to go rather than because the whole thing is inneficient.
There are two ways of dealing with mental health the the izekaya and the Isekai yup.
Dentist quoted us $12k to fix a couple teeth. Paid the $450 for 1 route canal and left. The lady looked at me and said apply for a personal loan.
Dental insurance is the real scam. What's the point in paying if your only going to cover at most 20%
I had my top wisdom teeth removed (they were impacting on my lower ones). Two minutes before the operation, the senior specialist doing it told me it could potentially cause nerve damage and cause me to lose some control of my cheek muscles, and had me sign a waiver. Like, two minutes. I really had no choice by then. Thankfully it didn't. This was the NHS.
50k hospital bill if I didn't have insurance after getting a cold that went super south that my boss spread because he was bored at home and just came in.
With insurance, 1400. Every time nurse shift changed I kept learning that there were more and more things I was being treated for that the others just didn't mention.
I got diagnosed with adhd a month ago I lived with it for 19yrs of my life without knowing 😂
7:33 connor is kira
I live in America but if I want to get an operation done or any other stuff I just go to Cuba or Colombia, does anyone else?
I go to Mexico lmao
I got my teeth cleaned while I was in Mexico one time
NHS times aren’t as awful as a lot of Americans seem to suggest. It gets longer the more specialised requirements you need, but if you need a checkup it’s easy to get one. But like anywhere there are crooks, it sounds like he went to a private one as the NHS wouldn’t charge that.
if I had to pick between self diagnoses and seeing any medical professional I would pick self diagnoses because too many "medical professionals" don't have your best interest in mind regardless of what they say especially in america
First time to know Garnt has TMJ issue, too
I had two of my wisdom teeth removed. They had severe cavities. The top ones. They were impossible to reach with my brush because they were pretty much touching my jaw at the back.
Cost my like 180 each. And the pain stopped. 😂
US Healthcare system be like
Fun fact, if the tonsil tissue isn't completely removed, it can grow back....that was oh so joyful to find out
@@Kumlord I hatrd it too, but mine qas 100% necessary as i wasnt getting REM sleep thanks to them. I was angry about them coming back tho bc my quack doctor never told me and I couldn't figure out why I was getting strep all the time until I changed doctors
You could be getting calcification of the tendons in your jaw, my gf had the same issues with her jaw
Ok as a German i don’t understand lol
I'm betting Connor has either Von Willebrand disease, or Hemophilia A/B. My money is on autosomal dominant vWD type 1 given the relatively minor symptoms (e.g. dude's not bleeding from his gums all the time).
Based, on the self diagnosis thing. Any of these guys use to watch Destiny on twitch?
Self-diagnosis isn't a bad thing, sure some people might be wrong or intentionally lying but diagnosis is not accessible. Also, if you're taking it seriously and doing your reseach, you're going to know if you have said condition or not. I KNEW, like 99% or more sure, I had ADHD and then I got diagnosed. I didn't get an official diagnosis to confirm I was right, I got it for treatment and support
I mean, its better than nothing, but the plain statement "self diagnosis isnt a bad thing" is... Lets say not good advice, in any capacity.
@@Juanito_Pecados In an ideal world, no one would need to self diagnose because diagnosis would be easily accessible and free for everyone. But the reality is that's not the case for most people.
Generally, self-diagnosis isn't a bad thing. If you have symptoms in common with someone with a diagnosed condition and their, or other coping mechanisms, work for you then that's nothing but positive. Acknowledging conditions that you have or likely have is incredibly beneficial in most cases because it's really damn hard to go through life knowing something is wrong with you and feeling very broken and alone.
If you've done your research and aren't sure or want to seek support and you can get a diagnosis, of course, go and do it. However, criticising and looking down on self-diagnosis is harmful. It villainizes disabled and chronically ill people who are just doing their best to understand and care for themselves. Self-diagnosis is only bad when the person diagnosing themselves doesn't take it seriously or isn't honest with themselves.
the current state of self diagnosis and how much the internet glorifies it IS a bad thing though. there's nothing wrong with suspecting you might have adhd or something, educating urself about it and applying the coping mechanism that people of that disorder have into your lifestyle to see if it helps, and that then may direct you towards getting an official diagnosis. self diagnosis is supposed to be a personal thing, but not on the internet! now you have people declaring their autistic on tik tok and talking about autism and speaking on behalf of autistic people while miseducating people, spreading misinformation, making autism look all cute and quirky, demonizing healthcare professionals, scaremongering about diagnoses. all while they get tons of support and love from the rest of the self diagnosed community, and claim it's "valid" for them to do this because apparently they don't even need a diagnosis, their word should be enough. and tis exact kind of culture can also be applied to lots of other neurodivergent disorders also like DID and tourettes
@@Jovviial The problem with the example you've given is misinformation. Spreading misinformation is bad, it is something that is far far too prevalent on the internet but it is not restricted to self-diagnosis or caused by it. There are diagnosed autistic people who spread misinformation about autism online too. Being diagnosed doesn't make you an expert, it just means an expert assessed you and gave you a diagnosis. Many people receive diagnoses without further education or support from trained professionals. I know I had to seek out further support and information because my diagnosis only gave me a piece of paper and a prescription of meds.
Also, self-diagnosed people do not need to be silent about their self-diagnosed condition. One of the most helpful and valuable parts of knowing you have a condition is being able to communicate that to offer clarity, understanding and access to support. A self-diagnosed person can know that there is an accommodation that could help them in work and so give their self-diagnosis to explain why they would benefit from said accommodation. They might explain it to friends or family so they understand why they might struggle with sensory issues or not understand social cues or whatever they struggle with from their self-diagnosed condition.
@@PurpleHat026 Its not advisable on the vast majority of circumstances, and saying that criticising it is the same as villanizing chronically ill people is, for the lack of a better word, stupid.
Also, portraying it as overall good and making exceptions for self diagnosis is the more harmful thing here, because no matter how you look it, misidentification and mistreatment of diseases and conditions is an important cause of morbimortality, and at the end of the day it matters little if people do the best they can if the methods are still faulty or not apropriate. The criticism of a method isnt a judgement on the character of people.
Also, you talk about how being dishonest is the problem on self-diagnostic, and everyone should do their research, ignoring the fact that people can still make erroneous assesments of stuff without being dishonest (thing that is extremely common when applied to oneself) and implying that how to do appropriate research is common knowlegde.
mental health help in America is really shitty, it took me going to the ER and saying I wanted to die in order to start getting the help I need
I ended up doing the same thing last year and they did absolutely nothing for me.
Welcome to the country of the "free" lol
Asian cultures be like: *NOT MY FUCKING PROBLEM*
$30,000 for a Dr appointment is actually real low in USA
What is it about your jaw?
Could it be arthritis in the joints of your jaw if that's what's sor
it took 12 years to get diagnosed with Lyme Disease. Many doctors treated me like I was crazy or I was just fat. Doctors lied to me about my blood test results. I had a SED rate of nearly 40, and normal was under 10. The doctors made the excuse "Well in absence of other symptoms we just ignore it." Like Bitch, I was in severe pain. I had other symptoms.
It was prolific to rip out your tonsils for decades, but because tonsils act as bodyguards to your chest, they changed their tune and now most doctors don’t suggest the removal anymore
I stopped going to the dentist almost because different dentists always told me different things - different teeth had cavities for example. How can that be?? After about 20 years of not trusting dentists I actually had some tooth pain and went in and was told I needed two root canals. Since there was actually some pain I figured it was right and got all the work done. For better or for worse I'm now just following whatever they tell me to do. They told me to get my wisdom teeth pulled the next time I came in. Wisdom teeth were taken out a week ago. Good luck with dentists.
If the situation of your cavities is not severe, some dentists would recommend you to leave it along but observe whether it develops after half a year. Anyway even if you get different suggestions, you should keep going to the dentist, do regular periodontal therapy and oral health checks. For your case, at some point all of your dentists will agree you have cavities on the tooth you have doubt in, and you can avoid root canals, probably.
Anyway, I believe you can protect your child's oral health better with your experience!
I got 4 of my widsom teeth removed after excruciating pain and being unable to sleep for a week. Got a dental xray showing my teeth in weird positions and fucking up my other teeth and all that. Cost me $450 for the entire thing.
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What Joey was saying about transferring to a bigger hospital to just get an easy fix that the previous doctor could have done is fucking annoying. I once hurt my wrist and went to urgent care and the doctor said it could be broken but he wasn't sure. He sent me to a bigger hospital to get another x-ray and the doctor there just said nah, this part here looks like this because you're still young, go home and take these pills. I came out with a prescription and 2 hours less in my life
Healthcare and education the only reason why I’m happy that I live in a third world country lmao, it isn’t perfect (and slow) and I’m underpaid considering how much we work (like being on call 36 hours) but at least you can get good education without paying a cent and have decent medical attention. Here in Mexico people hate the health care system (most of the resources are stolen by politicians) but at least even the poorest person has access to hospitalization unlike america, they are given at lot of money in meds or have a broken arm treated for a tiny part of your salary or going to the hospitals that are for non workers were you get treated for free if the resources you need are available, mexicans complain but it could be worse like the insurance in america or the NHS in the UK
And yes they are right self diagnosis is never the answer, brings more harm than good, we have a huge problem with mutant bacteria that are resistant to every single antibiotic due to people self diagnosing and taking antibiotics. Diagnosing something takes us years of studying, when you have a disease you won’t have 10/10 symptoms or signs and sometimes further studies are needed, so no matter how much your read about something you won’t be right, if you do get diagnosed with something you self diagnosed thats just coincidence
I live in America and The public schools, healthcare, taxes are Bullshit. Alot of local governments in my State want $10,000 in property taxes just for a 1/3d of an acre and this is separate from state and federal income tax.
I mean, I'm in developing country and America sounds worse when it comes to education and healthcare. 🥲
I got sick in the train in Tokyo, got off and sat on the ground. I definitely looked like I needed help but not even a single person stopped to ask me if I was okay. I felt some stares though.
self diagnosis can be a slight problem but it is also very valid especially if you do your research and talk to other people in a similar position, for example, i self diagnosed as autistic for a while before i was able to get the the official diagnosis, so self diagnosis is important because it usually leads to getting the proper medical diagnosis
Why most people don't ask about that crying man ? A conform society doesn't tend to do it, also if you must grind to survive all the rest around you becomes less important.
And another thing, it is impossible to great a good healthcare system. because the good ones tend to be for the rich. Because you can't make it operatable on a societal level. it budgets get bloated and useless like the NHS. and the worst thing, they tend to spend money in the wrong places
laughing in Canadain
I think the 'self diagnosing' thing is used as a way to brag OR a way to cope. I'm no psychologist, but surely it could count as some form of it
You have the Tories to blame for the NHS underfunding.
Nothing to do with the fact we let in 1,000,000 people last year?