Tesla Plaid 1/4 Mile vs Camaros! Turbo 6.2L and ’69 582ci! Which is Faster? Dragstrip Action in 4K!
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- September 28th, 2023 at Bradenton Motorsports Park (1/4 mile)
The Plaid is weight-reduced and running on the stock Pirelli P Zeros on 19” wheels. (Backseats and most rear material removed. Both front seats are still IN PLACE, along with all door panels, airbags, mirrors, 20 stereo speakers and subwoofer remain intact.)
VIDEO INDEX:
0:00 Intro
0:15 Bradenton Motorsports Park (Sept 28th 2023)
1:39 ProCharged Vette and Twin-Turbo Camaro
1:52 Turbo 6.2L Camaro
2:11 Plaid vs Turbo 6.2L Camaro
3:42 Time Slip #1
4:08 Our PB Timeslip from May 2022
5:33 1969 Camaro 582ci NA
7:46 Time Slip #2
7:55 Talking with Chuck, 582ci Camaro Driver
12:02 ProCharged Vette vs Twin-Turbo Camaro
13:17 Preview of Next Video! Twin-Turbo 6.0L Firebird
Run#: ET, MPH, 60-ft, Reaction (Tree), Mode, State of Charge, Result
1. 9.16, 151.53, 1.44, (gave move of 1.06), Launch Mode, 88%, W
2. 9.20, 149.95, 1.46, -0.415 (Red), Launch Mode, 85% L
Thanks to Chuck (‘69 Camaro 582ci) and all other drivers for these fun races!
Special Thanks to partners @LueTubeTv and @DragRacingandCarStuff for sharing trackside and grandstand footage!
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NHRA ‘Street Legal’ Rules: “Unaltered OEM installed antilock brakes, OEM airbag functions, OEM stock frame\unibody construction, including OEM floors and firewall, as well as all other OEM safety-related systems must be functioning as per manufacturer’s specifications.” More at: www.nhra.com/nhra-street-legal
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What are your views on the new Lucid Air Sapphire? It costs as much as 2 Model S Plaid but.... it offers more luxury and it is quicker and faster, running 9 seconds dead or even 8.9" bone stock.
@@Seventh7Art It’s good that companies like Lucid are trying to compete. We’ve never seen any Lucid models at our local dragstrips, and we are out there every week, sometimes 2-3x/week. We’ve heard that they (currently) lose money on every car sold, which tells us how hard it is to get a new company started. We wish them well and welcome racing one soon. As for running under 9.0, the latest NHRA rules don’t allow that without a cage, and over 150MPH will require a chute. (Okay, they give us a fraction or so over)
This has gotta be BS.. I got this Dopey local kid with a black Tesla wanted to run my 1999 Silverado SS up the Broad Mountain. 3 times now he lost bad...
@@thekingsilverado3266 Funny thing, Tesla makes many different models. This one here runs low 9s at over 150MPH in the 1/4 mile. Watch over a thousand Tesla races on this Channel, all with time slips and many with grandstand video. Meanwhile we found 0 videos of your truck running 9s at 150MPH on your Channel…
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Just mx with Road salt or sea salt your choice & instant Fire Bomb Fireball... Glad ya own it & not me... Come run my 99 SS.... Let me teach a lesson about BS...
The front end on that 69 Camaro 582 lifted way up all the way down the track. What a beast lol.
Need to give it everything to beat the plaid
@@aussiegruber86 An electric rocket vs a 50 something year old antique.
How else were they going to make it fair?
@@shadowtrooper4435 yeah looks stock doesn’t it
@@aussiegruber86 I'm not getting your point.
The Camaro had upgrades prior to the plaid as it's clearly a drag race car. It beat the plaid through careful driving and expert upgrading.
It's a battle of built vs bought.
What happens when your battery goes bad ? How much does the Battery cost ? Anyway cool video
That 69 Camaro isn't just fast. It looks awesome! Gotta love 1st Gen Camaros.
Couldn't agree more! 👍
I had a 69 SS Camaro. I would have that over a Tesla any day.A Tesla will never have the character of a 69 Camaro. But I don't expect the Tesla crowd will understand that. But different "Strokes" for different folks.
@@cwalton56 most people with EVs can appreciate the beauty and sound of gas powered vehicles, especially classics. I used to race classic Vettes (1968 - 1969) and loved racing and driving them. However, gas cars require lots of time wrenching on them while EV performance cars are plug and play. At my current stage in life, I don't have the time to keep wrenching on cars. EV is the best way to get the kick of running 9's in the 1/4 mile without spending time to modify, tune and maintain the vehicle. I miss the sound and looks of my Vettes but I don't have the time required to maintain and race a gas powered vehicle.
@@cwalton56 Funny thing: I bought a ‘69 Camaro (327 Rally Sport) in 1984 at age 17 with money from my summer job. ($1300!) Installed two race camshafts myself that year, and intake manifolds, and carbs, and later nitrous on that motor. So actually the Tesla crowd does know about this. Shame on those that make ignorant generalizations 🤔
@@TeslaPlaidChannel I fully appreciate owning the 70 Buick GS I bought in 1978 when I was 18 and owned for 10 years and now wish I had the opportunity to own a Tesla Plaid. I love all the old school and new school!
Geez what a run. That big block is insane
10:25 I appreciate that you sacrificed the run to get a great shot. Thank you, Andrew. 👍
That Camaro is BADAZZ !!
That Camaro squatted and got the hell on
Don’t change anything, love your videos.
Fun races. Chuck's 69 Camaro looks like a great example of a dialed-in drag racer. Many of the tweaked hot rods that I've seen at the track can be unreliable and unstable. But the seasoned racers know how to build and tune their drag cars to be consistently fast. I thought it was funny that Chuck said that he was sleeping at the light with a .023, but he has clear gotten accustomed to quicker lights than that with the box. As an aside, it was interesting to see some of the first racing tests of the $250K Lucid Sapphire, where it ran an 8.95 at 154MPH, but most runs were right around 9 flat. So running a 9.16 puts your Plaid in pretty close enough company. Enough so that you could win a drag race against the Sapphire with a good R/T.
👍Indeed, tuning is sometimes overlooked. Like those 3 cars that came in together: single turbo, ProCharger, and twin-turbo. All had the hardware to get into the 9s, yet I didn’t see any of them get under 11.0. They could all get there, but it takes a lot more than just the parts
Yet they both will lose to a 50 year old car with 50 year old tech.
@@Thumper68 50 years old and isn’t street legal, has one seat, doesn’t have Netflix and CZcams on two screens, can’t take your family on a trip, can’t even go to Costco, doesn’t even have a stereo much less 20 speakers and a subwoofer, doesn’t have modern safety equipment like antilock brakes and airbags, etc, etc, etc…
@@TeslaPlaidChannel
Not street legal cause he had a tail light out?
Awesome video Awesome Race!! Man that Camaro was dialed in and moving! 🏁Not use to seeing to seeing you get beat😰😱It's nice to always see most everyone is so friendly out there!
Interesting as regards your thoughts on the battery charging. Love the channel and your presentation.
Thanks
Thanks for watching! 👍
Classy interaction. Great video.
I like EVERYTHING that's fast and EVs are fun to play with. I'll never give up my '68 Camaro but if I find something fast I wanna try it. Remember that these electric motors are the top of the line available to push a car down a track so you match them with the top of the line gas motors to be fair. Race On!
Out of curiosity Good Sir Andrew, what is the current battery health on your Plaid after all these races?
This just blow me away.
Great racing!!!
Andrew!!
Great coverage as always!!
Impressive how nasty that bb Camaro is, what it takes to beat you!!
Always great sportsmanship you have!!
Thank you for that!!
Thanks Ted! What do ya think, was jumping the light the right choice? (Better video anyway?)
@@TeslaPlaidChannel I know how much you hate red lighting!!
But you did , for the footage.
Always great footage, from your channel!!
What a beast
Thanks
Like to see a more aggressive wider looking Tesla Plaid with 4 motors. Call it the R edition.
👍Just a short matter of time we believe 😃
@@TeslaPlaidChannel screw a better plaid, semi has 1500hp+with the same drivetrain.
The gac aion hyper ssr just released has 1240hp with 3 motors and a 75kwh pack's, zeekr fr 001 has 1240hp with 100kwhs.
Put plaid power in a gen2 roadster body under 4,000# with the next gen 4680 cybercell powering it and show em whose boss. 😁👍🏻
A twin turbo Camaro convertible, with no cage. That is insane
👍 Agree! 😳
Thats crazy that it takes THAT much time, money and blood sweat/tears building a 582CID, not to mention the car its sitting in to outrun a Plaid, something bought off the showroom floor and barely a wrench even put on it.
I rode in a Plaid at a car show once. I to go get Rolaids afterwards. Im waiting on an opportunity for my wife to be able to experience a Tesla like I did,
Car seems to like the way we've been charging it 😅
Fun night, some beautiful cars. Love how the Plaid is always ready to go. Have you replaced the spark plugs yet (LOL)? Chucks 69 was awesome. Wonder what he is going to replace it with. Seems like a guy who has built something like that will always have a cool project. That Camaro will be a challenge to match. I have a soft spot for the 1st gens. Keep up the great vids man.
👍 Part of me wanted to ask Chuck about his price, but the other part of me knew that once I asked, my brain would start figuring out how to scrape up the money! 😃
@@TeslaPlaidChannel I totally get it. Same here.
Hallo, I have a question. Do you get any updates from Tesla every month or every few months like smartphones? Maybe if you get them than thats the reason you get faster.
We indeed get all the regular updates, roughly once a month. Yet other Plaid owners keep complaining about getting slower, and some of them we’ve noticed have unhealthy charging patterns (like the guy who put his 100% charged car in an enclosed trailer for many many hours on a blazing hot Florida summer day)
How does it do if you come directly back to the line and run it again, and again?
Great question! First it gets a bit faster (as everything heats up), and then it gets a bit slower as the battery gets lower. But on most nights at the 1/4 mile track, when the staging lanes can be an hour or more, all the runs are rather consistent. Several nights recently we've run six 9.20s in a row. No big change in either direction. But the stock OEM brakes can become soft (as with many 150 MPH cars), so we try not to run more than 3 passes per hour when the track is available to do it. There are better aftermarket brakes, but the NHRA ‘Street Legal’ Rules require “Unaltered OEM installed antilock brakes", so that's what we use.
For an example of quick back-to-back runs, and how we got faster, see this video: czcams.com/video/Q1ipJXhM480/video.html
Maybe you ought to check out Ultra Capacitors for faster discharge. (They use them for starting huge industrial engines).@@TeslaPlaidChannel
Random question. What are the rules and regulations for driving a plaid down the strip? I’ve heard if it’s under 10 or 9 seconds, you’d have to wear gloves and suit, on top of helmet. And then a special certification.
We can speak to NHRA rules, but not all tracks are NHRA. Some are IHRA or Outlaw (maybe others). NHRA personal safety gear and tech requirements depend on how fast the car is. For the Plaid:
Under 9.99 seconds (6.39 1/8th) or over 135 mph
NHRA Competition License (Level 6 or new "Street Legal" class)
SFI jacket & pants 3.2A/5
SFI neck collar & gloves 3.3/1
Full Face Helmet meeting Snell or SFI specifications
We have our Level 6 license and adhere to all of the above. There is a "Street Legal" classification for 2014 and newer cars with all OEM safety gear intact and unmodified (airbags, seatbelt, brakes). See the description of this video for those details. And more at: www.nhra.com/nhra-street-legal/become-racer
Like to see what it will run rear wheel only I stead of AWD.
Another fastest run, congrats mate.
Ah ole BMP, been a while. Last time there, I saw an old 86 5.0 snatch it up and pull three tires off the tarmac, some said there was air under the fourth tire,as well.
👍 For sure, we’ve caught 3 and 4 tires off the ground in the lane next to us on camera. Here’s 3 tires on a Firebird: czcams.com/video/xOrj7_RP9aE/video.html
And here’s 4 tires off the ground! czcams.com/video/JSdYa5v1Nbw/video.html
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Thanks for them links brother, sure do miss BMP since I moved. Now that one with 4 off is with bars. That 5.0 I saw had no bars, he hooked hard, almost vertical. I saw 3 off but I was on the side...thx brother.
@@sword-and-shield 👍 And of course that 2nd vid was from Showtime Dragstrip (previously known as as “Sunshine”). I heard they kicked that Suzuki out because it was launching so unpredictably
@@TeslaPlaidChannel I hear, even with them bars she was kickin like a bronc.
How humble and nice race folks are! One can say something else about facebook users in terms of EVs vs ICE.
How is the car holding up, anything broken so far?
800 dragstrip runs and no issues. Still on the original tires even!
(But we did replace the brake pads after about 500 dragstrip runs, as stopping repeatedly from 150+MPH is no joke)
you got it!
That 582 big block chevy gotcha😆
👍as expected, and we were glad it wasn’t a 10-second or up car, as those races are frankly boring 😃
How many races can you get and still drive home?
Around 25 runs since we live 80 miles from the track. We've once done 20 runs with plenty left. Most nights the long staging lanes only allow 4 - 8 runs, so we've always got far more charge that we need, so I personally would like an option for half the capacity at half the battery weight...
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Have you ever estimated what performance numbers you'd get with said half-size battery?
@@KingCobbones It would require a higher voltage architecture…
Fun to watch EV's kick ICE ass. 👍👍
The man walked into quite a few car dealerships looking to buy a fast car. Mercedes, BMW, Ferrari, Lamborghini and McLaren had some very fast cars, but they were all priced way beyond his budget. He finally compromised and bought a powerful, but family friendly 4 door sedan. It has a useable trunk, room for a baby seat, his dog and even his wife to ride in, all very comfortably. Even though it doesn’t make much noise, smoke or stink like he the fast cars he wanted, it does do 9 second 1/4 mile times. The clearly disappointed man still said,
“Thank You Tesla”.
And -2000 Timeslips later (all low-9s to mid 10s, split between two Teslas), not a single broken part! Still on the original Plaid tires even! Only maintenance so far has been a set a brake pads 👍
What other cars can do that? 🤔
Our friends in Hellcats, Corvettes, and Mustangs are breaking parts every year.
That first comero got its doors blown off
And then in the second race, another Camaro served some comeuppance 👍
@@TeslaPlaidChannel as you know those Teslas as heavy as they are give them gassers good competition, people complain about the fact that they are too quiet, I actually like the way they sound
You went red a ton, got passed and gapped. But that Plaid is badass
Yeah...but electric cars are boring...they have no sound no thunder no soul.
We’ve been to the dragstrip about a thousand times. Never has a car lost and people said “but you were louder!” 🤣🤣🤣
That comment is getting. O l d
@@TeslaPlaidChanneland no one has ever said what a cool looking car it is either. EVs are just boring unless you’re into the super cars.
Truth..like an office worker vs a construction worker in a woman’s eyes 😊
I like both ICE and electric cars. The cool things about Teslas they sound like the vehicles the Covenant use in Halo 😁 most notably the Ghost.
Never charge to 100% Charge to 85 -90% & charge before or get to 30% & store at 60-65%. Thats how I double the life out of my ebike battery's & it seems to actually be peppy but i dont have a way precise enough to measure performance parameters. I do the same with my RC lipo batteries. I would think the cells in a Telsa would be similar in their properties.
Sounds dangerous!
Looks like Tucson. 👍
I think the technology is super cool for things like this, fun. I was a long time RC car advocate, I ran nitro forever, but I one day switch to electric, and it was freaking amazing. Luckily I had waited until Lipo’s were a thing but man the power no mess. Quit charging 45 minute run times. It was amazing but still gasoline. Turbo supercharged. Nitro engines are way better in the fun factor aspect when it comes to a real car
We like the sights and sounds of a good V8, which is why we always point our cameras toward them. But our consistency is tough to beat, like our 5 races with a COPO Camaro recently…
The 5th Gen Camaros just weren't runny right. My all motor car runs mid 10s.
For sure Barry, tuning is a real thing. As those last two cars (Vette and twin turbo Convertible Camaro) showed, tuning is everything 👍
You dont run a car with that kind of power on street tires. Its a complete waste. Seems like they lack common sense. And driving skill.😂
LOL, the guy with the Camaro says "We're still tuning it"...... yeah, you blew away a Tesla Plaid, I think your tuning is just fine LOL
good day A
2 nd person to like ur videos
happy racing, A
Thanks 👍
Interesting… everyone has their flavor of car, which is cool. Quiet electric is just not for me. So much of the car hobby is about the sound and smells of the machine. TESLA is quick no doubt about it.
Big block ftw!!
“Empty?!? All this time…”
(In an Australian accent; Bruce Spence to be precise)
That second Camaro hauls ass the crazy part is its doing rimac nevera numbers
At a new track for you I'd be a bit suspicious of the track timing if you just set a new record. I listened to the 582 Camaro and heard the low to direct gear shift of the 2-speed Powerglide a bit past the 60-ft mark. It then sounded like it held a high RPM the rest of the way down the track, which indicates it is getting most of its low and mid range gear ratio from a very high stall speed torque converter. He'd likely tell you the stall speed on the torque converter. My guess is it's about 5,000 rpm stall speed. Some readers are likely confused by the use of 2-speed transmissions for drag racing. This setup is minimally using the transmission for low gearing, it's making use of the wide variable gear ratio provided by a drag racing high stall speed torque converter for low and mid range gear ratios. Below its likely 5,000 rpm stall speed the torque converter between the engine and the transmission is creating gear reduction and torque multiplication while the engine output RPM and the transmission input RPM are widely different.
A torque converter is very inefficient, turning a lot of energy into heat when providing variable gear ratio, but it can provide very high ratios of gear reduction to provide incredible amounts of low end toque. When at its stall RMP a torque converter is considered to be running a 1:1 gear ratio. It always slips a bit and that is why there are clutched torque converters that lock-up solid so there is no slippage and very little energy loss. This high energy waste makes high speed stall torque converter about 1/2 second slower than an optimally set up manual transmission, clutch and driver on a drag strip.
There are no 1,000+ HP rated street derived production manual transmissions. If somebody knows of one I'd like to know of it. That includes upgrade paths for a manual Tremec used in the GM Corvettes, Camaros, Ford Mustangs etc. There are pure race made manual transmissions at over $10,000 people occasionally have used on the street. They have noisy gear lash and are most intended for the 1/4 mile drag racing. Nascar Cup cars use a 4-speed manual race transmission that is likely 1,000 hp rated and more. There was a 24 hour of Lemans experimental car entry that was greatly a Nascar Cup car fitted out Camaro and did have transmission issues. www.nascar.com/news-media/2023/06/11/nascars-garage-56-entry-completes-24-hours-of-le-mans/
Its difficult to get street derived manual transmissions over 600 hp, while street automatic transmissions such as the 2-speed GM Poweglide in race trim can easily reliably handle well over 1,000 hp. The 3-speed GM Turbo 400 in drag race trim is good to about 3,000 hp. A GM turbo 350 is a bit lighter weight than the Turbo 400, but it's far inferior and a pain to live with. We went through five rebuilds of a Turbo 350 on our '73 LeMans station wagon only to find its possible to have Turbo 400 installed in the car. The drag race high stall torque converters are much easier on the drive train than a manual and clutch which includes the engine's crank shaft. Having mechanical gear ratios and starting torque gets increasingly difficult at higher horsepower and is why many higher power machines such as train locomotives use electric transmissions such as Diesel electric locomotive.
The 2-speed GM PowerGlide automatic transmission is an absolute dog on the street, but it came into its own as a support system for a high stall RPM drag race toque converter at the drag strip good for over 1,000 hp. There have been Poweglide high hp drag racers with out 1st gear having to run direct gear from the start and they only loose 1/2 second.
Agree on these points. The quickest cars, especially the 1/8th mile racers, are (almost) always on a ‘glide and run converters rated at 4000 and up from there 👍
(All 3 of my Camaros, 327, 350, and NOS 327, had a TH350, but these were relatively mild builds)
This dragstrip (Bradenton Motorsports Park) is actually our “home track” for 1/4 mile. It’s the same place we ran our PB of 9.15, as well as our other 9.16, 9.17 and 9.19 recently, etc. We’ve found that tracks can be inconsistent indeed. Our other home track is 1/8th mile only (Showtime), and we generally don’t compare tickets between the tracks 👍
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I don't care what anyone says. American muscle chopping it up and then picking the front end up when being launched will always be cool as hell. There is no replacement for displacement.
How many American carmakers produce a 1000+ horsepower car? Just one. Tesla 👍
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Dodge Demon 170. 👍
@@TeslaPlaidChannel and, I actually like Teslas. I just don't care for the douchebags who drive them.
Damn right! No power adder tech crap needed!!💪🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Another great Plaid video, Andrew! Don't know if anyone mentioned it but the Unplugged Plaid broke the EV record at Pikes Peak this year with a 7:57 second run, and was about 2 seconds slower than the all time fastest run, and that by a purpose built racer, super light weight! The Plaid used completely stock motors and still weighted over 4700 pounds! The video of that run is on CZcams, if interested. Now all the Plaids need is a more powerful battery pack, as the Plaids powerplants are capable of over 1400HP just the way they are! Any chance of you getting together with other guys who race their Plaids and perhaps once a month have a ALL PLAID dragrace! Quite interested in seeing what other owners do to their cars both performance wise and also customized bodies! Did I see correctly that a new Plaid is available at less than $90 thousand? For that kind of performance it is probably the best STEAL in the GO FAST MARKET!
👍Agree Roy that $90K for 1020HP is an outrageous bargain. As for other Plaids at the dragstrip, we haven’t seen any other lightened ones yet, and most have 21” wheels and many are lowered. Seems like 9.35-9.55 are the common ETs, which means that unless I completely sleep at the light, the race is over as soon as it begins. And yet the margin is not wide enough to give a concession like the move, because a 0.4 second head start would mean I’d need a 9.15 (PB under perfect conditions) and they’d need a 9.55 or higher in order for me to catch them. Unlikely given the same conditions in both lanes.
But we continue to search for, and sometimes find, 8- and 9-second cars like this 582ci ‘69 Camaro. Why didn’t I ask his price? Because I was afraid I’d buy it!
Entertaining, but obvious the Plaid has to give concessions with almost every car..........
Many, but certainly not this 582ci beast 👍
What car ....Camaro i mean.
ICE cars are dead. You can keep one for fun, I have my Mini Cooper in the garage. I am keeping it. But my 2023 Niro, which slow 0-60, beats most most cars to 40 mph. So around town......
You bring that Tesla here I'll show ya what my 1999 Silverado does in the 1/4 mile...
We searched your Channel. Didn’t find any videos or proof of the truck running over 150MPH in the 1/4 mile…
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Here kitty kitty.... I got another one sleeping sliently.. PSP here will grant me an exception if we go down the coal road and block it off..
@@TeslaPlaidChannel A car like yours can almost put out 1,000 foot Lbs of torque but it cannot sustain it.. Smoke and mirrors... Mix that car with road salt water and Sea Salt water and ya got a rolling hydrogen bomb producing Hydrogen Sulfide gases with the Positive grounded chassis... nothing I even want near my barns or home... JUNK JUNK JUNK
Wow, and even with over a million Teslas on the road your psychotic theory has never come true even once. Not once. Kind of like your truck has never broken into single digits even once. What an imagination you’ve got 🤣🤣🤣
Every gas vehicle is still 27 times more likely to catch fire than any EV. Motor Trend magazine actually knows a few things about cars, and they do actual research. Consider education yourself before making Comments? www.motortrend.com/features/you-are-wrong-about-ev-fires
@@thekingsilverado3266i can walk faster than your POS
*How does it feel, knowing virtually no one can beat you?* I see you looking for drivers under 10, but there were none in your class, that takes the fun out of racing. I own a '21 Tesla Mod3. *My wife won't let me buy a Plaid, but when my 500 shares of TSLA get to $1,000+ a share, I'm doing it.*
The acceleration part feels exhilarating. The low maintenance feels like liberty. The frequent inability to find a competitive race feels frustrating. But all in all, it’s the right car for this season of my life. I’ve built cars and engines when I was young, and wouldn’t trade those experiences for anything. But the backaches and downtime are not welcome anymore. This car does it all, including runs to Costco, without problems 👍
Wow, money bought you a device, im so impressed.
The six speed missed a shift, It does take a small amount of driving talent to do a six speed, but to push a pedal down is very impressive.....
Did you not pay attention to the fact that the ‘69 Camaro is FOR SALE? Someone will BUY it. With MONEY even. And then you will still believe that the new driver, no matter how much of a noob, is “more legit” than the host of this Channel who has built several Chevy small blocks over the years. I’ve even owned and restored a ‘69 RS 327 Camaro back when I was 17 years old (from working through high school).
It does take a small amount of tale talent to get a 0.000 or 0.001 Reaction Time. We’ve got a couple on this Channel, including vs a rail dragster. We don’t see any of those on your Channel. Just sayin’
@TeslaPlaidChannel nothing i can say will sound like im correct , so here is this. The Camaro was slow and is now fast. The plaid is built fast by the manufacturer. The camaro was made fast by its owner and is infinitly adjustable to be even faster. The plaid is extremely hard to modify and easy to drive and easy to buy. give the build not bought cars some credit.
P.s. my channel is for scale ev trucks, which are plauged with battery issues.
@@jimjawz 👍We loved building when we were younger. Loved it thoroughly. Swap a cam. Test. Add NOS, test various jets, etc. Play with octane and timing. All of it was a great hobby for a long time.
Different stage of life now. Backaches are the main factor for me. (Neighbors and HOA for others). There’s a time for everything under the sun 🌞
That 69 is nice 💪🏾 combination over everything!!!
We loved our ‘69 Rally Sport 327. It didn’t run low 9s. The vast majority don’t. This Tesla has beat the vast majority of Camaros (all generations) that it has faced at the dragstrip.
@@TeslaPlaidChannel your fast without a doubt. But I will always love combustion more then electric.. call me old school or stuck in my ways but the art and science in building combustion motor is a great thing to experience. I’m not hating your car at all my friend and like seeing you race gas vehicles.
@@J2A61 Our car building experiences remain treasured. Saving up all summer to buy another old Camaro (for just $1000-$2000 in the 80s). Swapping cams in the driveway. We wouldn’t trade that expensive for anything. Older now. Backaches are real. Reliability beats fixing it every weekend. And who ever imagined 2000 timeslips (running 9-10 seconds) without a single broken part? And not even a fluid change or any maintenance other than one set of brake pads 😃
I once drove a friends dual motor tesla 3 down the 1/4 mile. It was very quick but BORING! No exhaust noise, no shifting of gears..... literally felt like driving a golf cart. Being quick isn't everything. I'd rather have a car that's slower but actually fun to drive.... a car that feels like you are actually driving a car.
...and yet at a dragstrip, the "W" comes *only* from being quick down the track. There's still no trophy for the "loudest car"...
Diffent strokes for different folks. I’m an ice guy and a Camaro guy.
I seen some sand bagging going on.
Not sure which car in this video you may be referring to. The first Camaro was poorly tuned, the second Camaro ran 8.60, and the Plaid did exactly what it was supposed to do on both runs…
I’m sorry I don’t care how fast the plaid is . Just no emotion in it yeah it pulls but put someone in a built zr1 6m with 1000hp and I promise u they will enjoy it and want that over a plaid
We’ve built our share of cars (starting in the ‘80s) and that was fun. Great experiences. Lots of knowledge learned. Lots of broken parts and backaches too.
At this stage of life, a low 9-sec car that can make 1000 passes with only a new set of brake pads? We’ll take it! And funny thing, in all our ~1000 visits to the dragstrip since the -1980s, we never once saw a losing car get praised for being louder than the car that won. Not even once did someone say “you lost, but you were louder!”. There’s actually no trophy for being louder, only faster 👍
@@TeslaPlaidChannel I’m just barking. I kinda like the Plaid just too much $$$$
@@davidhavard1908 Yet for around $70-75k for a used one (now $89k new), 1020HP works out to well under $90 per HP 👍
Yep! Nothing like a go fast car that sounds like a high performance vacuum cleaner. Sorry. Not an EV fan.
@@davidhavard1908lol those guys that he is running that are actually competitive have way more money in it than the plaid with less than 10% of the reliability. Wake up.
Just wait till its cold outside.
We’ve had this Plaid for over 3 1/2 years. When it’s cold, like this month, we still dominate the vast majority of trailered cars at the dragstrip 👍
Running 9.20s on a cold damp night this month: czcams.com/video/WSSNgMGsgvI/video.html
(While most of the fast ICE stayed home or left as soon as the sun went down.)
And still won every race on this December night, even against the mighty COPO: czcams.com/video/EFFFZxPbIgA/video.html
@@TeslaPlaidChannel its still a vacuum cleaner.
And it still destroys the majority of cars at four local dragstrips. Even the trailer queens! 😃
The camaro is faster. He needs wheelie bars... he'd be nudging 7's.
🤔Which Camaro? (There are two in this video)
Got spanked by that camero. Left early and still gapped by multiple lengths
Trailered cars. We line up with anyone. We lose some, we win most. It usually takes a trailer to beat the Plaid. We drove our car to and from the track. And we got home with more than 50% charge, without stopping, while most of them have to stop to for fuel…
Run the slowest car at every meeting, for contrast.
It would actually look a lot like that first race, but more boring 👍
See how long you could wait before leaving the start.
@@TeslaPlaidChannel I've seen people make it fun: Just leave a few seconds late and see if you can catch up to them when they're already halfway to the 1/8 mile haha.
@@AllanSustainabilityFan Sounds like our last Demon races. We’ve given hundreds of moves (the “hit”) on this Channel…actually several hundred over these last 4 years. Feel free to go through the lengthy library of about 1500 Tesla races to see them. Yet for us, racing slow cars became quite boring, because they just aren’t exciting cars. A stock 707HP Hellcat? Yawn. A stock Mustang or Camaro? Double yawn. Even a stock Redeye or Demon isn’t remotely competitive, which is why we always give them the ‘move’ also.
My son would sit at the light a bit with slower cars. Not a way to make friends.
Old school every day. At the refuel on a long race, Tesla has to sit for 20 minutes on refuel while the old school is gone 18 minutes ago.
At the *dragstrip* the old school has to SIT and COOL DOWN for 20 minutes after every short run! The Plaid goes back-to-back and can make dozens of runs in one night. It’s no contest! EV has more advantages than people can comprehend 🤔
15 minute video to watch a 4-second race
9-seconds passes, actually. If you want 30-sec videos with all races and no talking, we used to do that. No one was interested. But here’s highlights from 1500 races: czcams.com/video/qD3Kzg3AL3A/video.html
I guess the 100 thousand dollar golf cart,didn’t have anything for old school bad ass Camaro.
Maybe not this time, yet we’ve beaten too many TRAILERED Camaros to count. Dozens 👍
Like the mighty COPO: czcams.com/video/EFFFZxPbIgA/video.html
Two more Big-tire old school Camaros: czcams.com/video/ijR5fkKX8ew/video.html
Trailered tuned ZL-1: czcams.com/video/1MwkDdiFcfI/video.html
Two ‘68 Camaros, Big Blocks: czcams.com/video/YvA24TYZ4vk/video.html
I have a vacuum cleaner too. I don't drive it though.
Winner of the stupidest comment award. What’s next, something about a “golf cart”, because you aren’t aware that millions of golf carts are gasoline powered?
We don’t drive our noisy lawnmower to the track. We drive this 1020HP SEDAN that has thoroughly GAPPED every Ferrari that it has raced 👍
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Wow, a little touchy there with the knee-jerk defense aren't we? You know, when in data you see an outlier or a spike, it is usually tossed out in favor of the mainstream data, however, in human behavior it typically represents a projection based upon a defecit inverse. Regardless, the fact remains it is an electric motor. Shall we debate that? Besides, gapping Ferraris would carry weight IF you were racing from either a similar platform OR a much-perceived underdog like, "Holy sh*t I can't believe that 70 Buick GSX just dusted that Ferrari!" And as Iacocca pointed out, Ferrari is legendary, and legends are made from story, triumph, failure, style and performance, not necessarily hp numbers. Par example', What do you think the ratio of Formula One racing fans / viewers world wide look like in comparison to formula E? Hey, ya know what? If you're happy, that's all that matters, truly. I suppose I have the attitude that, if you can't truly dig in and modify, learn, experiment and discover based on theory, I'm just bored with that.
Touchy? Knee-jerk? Your other Comment accused this Channel of STAGING our races, of which we have over 1850, all at actual dragstrips with real racers and rules enforced (not some sketchy "street racing in Mexico" BS). Preposterous comment of course, and your hasty generalization based on the ONE race that you've watched here was rather insulting. Speaking of "jerk"...here's your other Comment for everyone to see in proper context: "Ok, the turbo car wasn't even in the boost when it staged and took off from all but idle for God sake stop it. Speaking of staged."
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Oh my God man, step away from the soap box. If you don't know that stirring the pot and bench racing is all part of the gig, you missed out on the REAL fun of things, and for that I truly am sorry. This is supposed to be fun, and you're taking this too seriously. Sh*t -talking is a priveledge, makes me feel like YOU don't know anything about racing. I've been working on Star Cruisers since you were at you mothers teet. Thats a joke, get it? Now it's your turn.
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Now, if you really want to compete, I'll offer to meet at Summit Point with my absolutely stock 16 ATS-V and we'll go lap for lap on any one of their three gorgeous circuits. Wanna play?
at least thay have class
“Class”? Yep, one of them got “schooled”! 🤣
Electric cars are hot, in fact, in some cases, for no apparent reason, about 1000° Fahrenheit.
You are wrong about EV fires. Gas-powered cars are more likely to catch fire. Like 27 times more, *after* adjusting for the number on the road.
www.motortrend.com/features/you-are-wrong-about-ev-fires
We’ve owned six Teslas. They have been more reliable than our two dozen gas-powered cars. Almost two thousand timeslips (running low 9s to mid 10s) without a single broken part. And no maintenance other than one set of brake pads 😃
But which one stirs the soul??? Not the quiet one for sure!
The only good thing about electric cars is that they are quick as hell... And we humans love acceleration... After that they offer nothing but silence and road noise....
Electric cars if anything... Are proving that how fast a car isn't important...
I would take the slow car that makes all the noise... Because it offers a better experience.. but that's my feelings.
Keep the tesla of the drag strip.
Yes! Of all the Teslas made, this is clearly the "Tesla OF the drag strip" and we are definitely going to KEEP it!
(The Commenter above acutally posted: "Keep the tesla of the drag strip.")
Wait until you try and replace your battery
8 year 150,000 mile warranty. How many cars have you got with more than 150.000 miles in your garage? 🤣🤣🤣
Merry Christmas Craig! 🎁🎄🎁
New Tag: Tesla Plaid can't run with the Big Dogs!
…that first turbo motor was a dog alright…
Next i wanna see a tesla off road camping pulling a 20ft gooseneck camper 11,000 ft elev
U need 3 motors vs 1 gas engine just to go fast in your golfcart
Except that everyone (besides you) knows a single piston forms a motor.
Never seen a lawnmower or go kart? Those Camaros have EIGHT motors. This Tesla has five fewer!
You can always make a gas car go faster, electric you got what you got.
There are at least two Plaids running 8.70s with weight modifications only. And yet the fastest modified Dodge Demon 170 (the most powerful production ICE car in history) still hasn’t been able to match that time yet. 🤔 Even with tuning!
@@TeslaPlaidChannel yep you are right but there are ice vehicles that have been running low 7's and 8's for 30 years now. Google fox body mustang at the drag strip running 7's and its street Legal . Gas cars are a challenge to drive at the strip and that is what makes it fun and interesting. The sound the smells , you take that away and you have nothing. Ice vehicles rule the strip and when they stop ruling its over. Oh and when the right person gets his hands on that demon 170 watch out. Hell they got a TRX running low 9's and will be running high 8's before you know it and that is a truck!!!. Now with all that being said there is a place for electric but just not for me. I love my gas powered 67 gto and my trx ram truck. I dont need to go mach 1, l just need to go fast enough to have fun.
Any idiot can buy a Plaid and step on the pedal, the cars here someone built are cool!
We loved our '69 Rally Sport 327 Camaro, bought with summer job money at only 17 (back in 1984). Swapped cams that first year, and many other upgrades. Loved our other two Camaros and our Nitrous 5-speed foxbody also. Older now, and reliability beats the backaches of fixing it every weekend. And while any idiot can run 9s in a Plaid, how many can hit a perfect 0.000 Reaction Time? Very few. Here's one of ours: czcams.com/video/rNBlgvR1R8o/video.html
You are entitled to your opinion but it doesn't change mine
Till the battery catches on fire!!!
We’ve seen many fires at the dragstrip. My buddy’s 5.0L F-150. A few Imports. A Donk. Nitrous motors and others. But never an EV. Not once. Yet there are gullible people who believe the fossil fuel propaganda. They are the same ones who believe everything they hear on the news. Sad really…
More sad is how every Gas- and Diesel-powered car is 27 times more likely to catch fire than *any* EV…but don’t let facts get in the way of your propaganda 🤣
www.motortrend.com/features/you-are-wrong-about-ev-fires
Electric it's okay but it's not for me I like to be able to pull up to the pump fill up and take off I don't want to be charging for hours what a stupid idea
You must be the guy who sits around for hours waiting for his cell phone to charge 🤣🤣🤣
The rest of us plug it in and night and wake up with a full charge 👍
396 miles per charge and low 9s in the 1/4 mile. Taking a long drive without stops? Rent a car and wear your adult diaper. But we choose to stop for lunch and dinner, and the car is always done charging before we pay the bill. (Usually takes no more than 30 minutes)
You should be 1 of the 8 to go debate UTG along with Electrocuted Vikling. Good luck. Hope your stuff doesnt explode, 3K° F is a real bastard and especially for non koolaid drinkers within 200'. Lol
Which is faster or quicker? They are not the same. My money is on the Tesla being quicker and the Camaro being faster.
Edit: I was wrong. It was both faster and quicker than the Plaid.
Which Camaro? The 5th-gen Turbo 6.20L? The twin-turbo Convertible? Or the 1st-Gen 582ci NA? The Tesla was quicker than 2 of those 3, and likely faster top speed than all 3 (which of those 3 can hit 175MPH stock? Or 200MPH with a SW update?)
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Ya...I sorta fumbled the ball on that. 🙂It was talking about that 8 second beast.
With an $15,000 "update," that Camaro could also do 200 mph. ;-)
Still won't make any less of a Tesla fan. 🙂
Camaros do burn outs, Teslas do burn down
Funniest part is how every Gas- and Diesel-powered car is 27 times more likely to catch fire than any EV…but don’t let facts get in the way of the “joke” 🤣
www.motortrend.com/features/you-are-wrong-about-ev-fires
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Statistics are boring, rumors are hilarious
By,by Tesla
Rarely… (we’ve got over 1800 timeslips against the fastest cars at the dragstrip), yet ever drag racer knows: There’s always someone faster
Sorry just can't get behind the Plaid. The Plaid seems to bring on to the owner a little arrogance.
Thankfully gearheads have a good camaraderie at the track, and those with an engineering mind are genuinely interested in EVs. (Don Garlits isn’t the only car guy that went from ICE to EV.) Most understand that their Vettes and Mopars will have electrification in the near future, whether V8/hybrid or all electric. Sure there are a few haters and egomaniacs, but the laidback “car guys” seem to outnumber them about 50 to 1.
The electric car might be faster, but it don't got the distance, and in cold weather it fails miserably. It's like a muscle bound guy that gets tired quickly because of carrying all that extra bulk, no stamina.
That’s reversed actually. The ICE cars have to “cool down” between runs. They don’t have to ability to go back -to-back. (They remain inferior that way.) Meanwhile we’ve made as many as TWENTY dragstrip runs in ONE 4-hour session. We’ve NEVER seen a 9-second ICE do that. NEVER.
Plus, we’ve never had a broken part after almost TWO THOUSAND Tesla timeslips. How many 9- and 10-second cars can say that? Our only maintenance has been one set of brake pads. We’ve still got the original tires on this Plaid even after 18K miles and over 850 passes.
Plus, it goes over 350 miles per charge. We’ve never once charged at the track or on the way home, yet we get home with 50% still leftover. Our ICE buddies all have to stop for gas to get home, and get to deal with the late night panhandlers and riffraff.
Our experience is superior from start to finish 👍
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Try having one of those electric vehicles where temperatures dip below 35 degrees, and the lower it gets the worse, and useless those electric vehicles become.
With a gas engine, you can always find a gas station, and you can drive in all temperatures, and go up to over 550 miles on one tank.
And then there is the cost of those inefficient batteries that cost more than an arm and a leg.
Your logic is severely flawed like so many these days, and only in your mind it is superior, because your promoting it, and want to get rich like all the other worldly characters off of a product that hasn't been perfected, and is full of flaws.
And then there is the issue of where cobalt comes from, and how and who mines it, a story that is very horrible, pathetic, and just totally disgusting of how the technological world practices slavery.
@hawaii50th lol
@@hawaii50th 8 years (96 months) or 150,000 mile battery warranty. We’ve never owned a car that long. Most new car buyers don’t own them that long.
We’ve owned 6 Teslas now. One of them showed a fault code one weekend. We took it in on Monday and picked it up on Tuesday. They put in a whole new battery for free! In only 24 hours. Like a whole new drivertrain! We replaced the floor mats that same week to complete the “new car” experience.
Otherwise virtually no maintenance. No fluid changes. Only tires and wiper blades. Love these cars!
(BTW, the oldest one of our Teslas is still being driven by my sister, around 100k miles and going strong.)
As for the batteries, all those cell phones that you and your family own (and have ever owned) have them too. Nice hypocrisy there 👍
@@hawaii50th Living in Florida, we could care less about what happens at 35 degrees. We bought what works for us. We aren’t trying to sell than to anyone else.
And frankly, anyone who drives their OWN CAR 550 miles or more in a day is just plain dumb. We rent a car (or SUV) for long trips and we let Hertz eat that mileage, maintenance and depreciation. We can go 1000s of miles for just $30-40/day!
cmon man the guy in the Camaro did not know how to drive this is not a very good example get against a car and driver that is tuned to your home track where you have the advantage obviously, I AM FROM THE 303
Which Camaro? The 11-second one that was poorly tuned? Or the 8-second one that gapped the Plaid?
If you missed the second Camaro in this video, you missed out on awesome “wheels up” action…
Learn to read, nobody said anything about generalizations. You are the one trying to defend TESLA . I said they don't have the same character as the Camaro. If you think differently that is your opinion.
‘69 Camaros absolutely have more character than Teslas. Where we disagree is your statement that “the Tesla crowd wouldn’t understand”. We’ve owned it. Built it. Loved it. Would still have it today if it hadn’t been wrecked while racing…
Always picking out the 10 second cars because yours runs 9's. Your claim is there's never any 9 or 8 second cars on the property. lol. Zr1's that race hard run 8's. I'm sure they could turn it down to beat you where you could handle it. lol.
Didn’t see the 8-second car in THIS VIDEO??? Your comment is so far off base, it’s clear that you’ve only watched ONE RACE. We have recent videos posted with ALL NINE SECOND CARS. We avoid ten second cars like the plague. Get educated before you make such a clearly false comment based in ignorance instead of fact.
Ps: We even give THE HIT to high 9-second cars, like that STAGE 2 DEMON.
So ignorant your comment is, we are frankly embarrassed for you…
So the Turbo Camaro is poorly tuned and the driver couldn’t launch it. Whose fault it that? It trapped 129MPH, so a nine was clearly possible if launched hard. But that’s somehow our fault? Get educated. Your comment shows no knowledge whatsoever about actual drag racing, the Florida dragstrips, nor this channel. (Never once seen a 8-sec ZR1 at a Florida dragstrip, and we are out there 2-3x per week, and WE CAN’T RACE CARS THAT AREN’T THERE.) What’s next: “Why didn’t you race a Rimac Nervera!?! They’ve already shipped a few dozen to the US!”
For the rest of you, here’s last months video with THREE 9-SECOND CARS, proving this Commenter above is talking right out of his …:
czcams.com/video/cAJH2a52zBg/video.htmlsi=-ka3BpobvYBHEfXS
Nothing ever will beat old school car. Just electric cars will loose value after 5 years for sure. No matter what EV batteries don't last forever plus there super expensive.
And yet this Tesla wins the vast majority of races against highly built and trailered “old school cars”. We’ve got 1800 Tesla races and won most.
It’s also great for cross country family drives with 4 passengers, with a 20-speaker stereo and Netflix and CZcams on 2 entertainment screens. And hauls a lot for Costco runs too.
The battery warranty is 8 years or 150,000 miles. Very few people that buy $89,000 cars keep them longer than that.
Plaids are a smoking deal with 1020HP for only $89K new. Right off the showroom floor they smoke every Porsche, Lambo, Ferrari, Corvette, etc, ever sold 😃. A great deal at under $9 per horsepower!
Want something that “lasts forever”? Surely a modern GM, Dodge, or Ford product is guaranteed to do that! 🤣 Those all have lifetime warranties, right? 🤣🤣🤣
Ok, the turbo car wasn't even in the boost when it staged and took off from all but idle for God sake stop it. Speaking of staged.
🤣🤣🤣As if a car trapping in the mid 120s had ANY chance against a car trapping 150MPH 🤣🤣🤣
You really don’t know anything about cars or drag racing now do ya?
As if leaving on boost would have improved his ET by THREE SECONDS and 25MPH 🤣🤣🤣
Please keep these hilarious comments coming. We haven’t heard such extreme noobery in years 🤣🤣🤣
And according to you it becomes OUR fault if he’s got a bad tune and doesn’t know how to launch his car?
Oh yeah, we stage every race to make sure we win. And we never post any losses. (Spoiler alert, don’t watch the second race.)
So you really believe all 1850 of our Tesla races were staged? 🤣🤣🤣
Good thing we were able to swear that many drivers to secrecy! 🤣🤣🤣
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Uh, do you know who we are? (said with that English accent) Yeah, sitting next to a 72 Camaro 396 on my Dynojet right now. I race sevral different cars, a 16 ats-v , a 66 Coronet, a 66 Fairlane 428 cobrajet and just about anything I drive to my shop....every day. You do realize I do this for a living right? Been playing with my 19 1LE black on black with black trim and more black then lovingly coated with....black.
Tesla plaid got gapped😁
👍As we often say here: “We’d rather lose to a faster car than race 10-second cars all day” 😃
My opinion , you lost all the way having a Tesla car 🕶
An opinion based on zero actual first hand knowledge, of course! 🤣
You’re in a Tesla…. You’re not really driving 😂. Get a real car fella
Ah right! The car launches itself! Someone shoulda told this FASTER nitrous foxbody why he kept losing to these hole shots 🤣 czcams.com/video/rNBlgvR1R8o/video.html
I’d like to see these guys hold a Tesla track day to race like configured vehicles. That way they have a legit measuring stick. Electric vs gas is like Bikes vs cars. Both are cool af but not comparable.
@@tbone0316 Yet every once in awhile, they even allow bikes and cars to race. Not apples to apples, but interesting: czcams.com/play/PLhSrlyVZnBMrZmwN3pCQRtaOQgwxZYdsN.html
You cheated and the Camaro still beat you.
Exactly as planned and expected 👍
That’s how we got the better camera footage of his wheelie 😃
Cheated?😂
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Andrew, do you happen to know what he's asking for the car?
@@Idiotsincarshere Nope, didn’t ask Chuck because I was afraid it might lead to me buying it 😳
Tesla garbage again. Sooo lame.
Ha, if the Tesla running a 9.16ET at over 150MPH is garbage, then how about that Camaro and all the other cars, mostly trailered ones, that it demolishes? They must be “worse than garbage” by your logic? 🤔
Two thousand Tesla timeslips with no maintenance other than one set of brake pads. Meanwhile the actual garbage often breaks down in the other lane. This car has been bulletproof at the dragstrip. Never failed to make it down the track. How many 9-second cars can say that? These facts must hurt for you to hear? Facts.