Just pulled 1,200T out of IMW to SM via MF using the S282. Took several tries because I kept forgetting to validate the job. Reaching MF after the climb out of IMW and realising you haven't validated the job is a real "DOH!" moment.
If you are popping the safety as often as you are. Yoy are wasting steam and water. Open the cutoff more and use that steam rather than venting it. Or trickle in water to the boiler to concert that excess heat to steam. Also, leave the train brake in the release (rearmost) position whenever yoy aren't using it. Leaving it in the middle will prevent the reservior on the cars from recharging.
Whilst I am wasting steam, the amount that i am wasting is likely minimal. When you are going up the coal mine line, you cannot spare any expense with the steam, and if you even start to lose even 1 bar of steam, then it will take a while to get that back from steam production, It's always better to be safe then sorry when it comes to pulling heavy loads up hills, you can notice how in squirrels tutorial on the S282 where he puts the damper down to stop the safety from popping, well thats just because he was too concerned with "Wasting steam" when in reality, you are using up 95% of the steam that you are producing when pulling heavy up the coal line. So popping the safety is materially insignificant in the grand scheme of a haul, and plus the costs of water is so cheap, that it likely won't matter at all, and coal is super cheap as well. So in conclusion, while yes i may have been wasting a bit of steam, most of it was actually being used up, and that excess steam was just to ensure i would stay at maximum steam pressure along the whole climb, rather then putting the damper down, and risk stalling on the grade because steam pressure drops down because of not enough steam production. As for the brakes, it's a good rule of thumb just to keep the brake lever on non self lapping brakes in the lapping position, just so that if you somehow lose pressure in you brakes, you can find where on the train you lost the pressure from, and fix it. Also it's normal operation to keep it in the lapping position when you aren't actively releasing, or applying. Hope this sums up my way of thinking.
@@TheOofertaffy i see where you are coming from but I see two issues with the line of thinking. I agree that you want to keep as high a pressure as possible, but When the safety is popping you are generating more pressure than you are using. It has to leave the boiler somehow. I was only recommending instead of venting it, send it through the cylinders where possible to generate more speed on the climb. You were notched back quite aways while the safety was blowing when you could have notched forward to use that steam instead. I was not recommending dropping the damper. You need all the heat you can get. Secondly, as the boiler empties, you need to generate a lot more steam to stay pressure. Keeping the boiler fuller, assuming you have the heat, will make keeping pressure up easier as there is a smaller volume to fill with steam. Hence the recommendation to trickle in water. Its a delicate balance. Lastly, the brakes. Its best practice to leave the handle in release. When held in Lap, it closes the main reservior from the brake pipe. Each car has its own reservior that it uses to apply that cars brakes when the brake pipe pressure is reduced. Those same reserviors are also recharged by the brake pipe. In order to release the brakes, the brake pipe pressure only needs to exceed the auxiliary reservior pressure. If you set it to lap at that point where the train brakes have just released, the auxiliary reserviors will not recharge. Leaving it in release ensures that the auxiliary reserviors are always ready for another application.
@@TheOofertaffy Also seeing this video was weirdly timed as I was just at Coal Mine for the first time, with the S282, hooked up to a 960 ton coal train. I can as of this moment confirm it is doable. But its has to be run on the ragged edge. There were many a boiler explosion after the crest.
Nice job, i found driving the steamer at night a freaking nightmare in simulator, easy to miss the water lvl just at the wrong moment. Hard work with 880t, and steelmine doesnt pay much for the coal.
You definitely need the lantern on that little shelf on the tender behind the engineer's area on the locomotive. Makes night time hauls a lot more viable
@@marvin95 its ok but doing hazmat from harbor to csw of food factory and back from oilwell to harbor is getting much more, specially since you get payed for both ways.
Cool video. I haven't played the game yet but you and Squirrel are the best steam engineers I've seen! How do you decide between opening or closing the main steam valve and tuning the steam chest control (I don't know proper name but I'm talking about the wheel that controls the Walschert gear that controls the dwell time (and direction) of the valves that admit steam to the cylinders). Sorry if this is too wordy! Edit: FWIW the game sound was almost drowning out your speech.
Yeah sorry about that, the next video will be better tuned for the audio. Basically, you want consistent steam chest pressure when going up a hill, using the cut-off wheel changes the opening that allows steam into the chest, and as you go faster, more steam gets wasted per piston cycle. This is why you need to come back on the cut-off wheel so you don't waste steam, the more you come back on the cut-off wheel, the smaller the steam opening becomes, therefore making the pistons more efficient, whilst still maintaining the same steam chest pressure. This is critical when doing a hill climb because if you have the cut-off wheel fully forward, you will be wasting steam you need to get up the hill. Hope this answers your questions. And again, i will have better audio in the next video, I had played some minecraft on my twitch, so the audio was tuned to that.
Just pulled 1,200T out of IMW to SM via MF using the S282. Took several tries because I kept forgetting to validate the job. Reaching MF after the climb out of IMW and realising you haven't validated the job is a real "DOH!" moment.
actually you can go the sideroute around MF, no need to climb up to MF. But i guess you had fun doing it, so why not.
I mean one of the most fun things about the game is seeing the sights so might as well@@schuttrostig5729
Great video, I found your instructions very helpful. Would love to see more derail Valley.
Thank you, I appreciate your support. There will be more to come!
If you are popping the safety as often as you are. Yoy are wasting steam and water. Open the cutoff more and use that steam rather than venting it. Or trickle in water to the boiler to concert that excess heat to steam.
Also, leave the train brake in the release (rearmost) position whenever yoy aren't using it. Leaving it in the middle will prevent the reservior on the cars from recharging.
Whilst I am wasting steam, the amount that i am wasting is likely minimal. When you are going up the coal mine line, you cannot spare any expense with the steam, and if you even start to lose even 1 bar of steam, then it will take a while to get that back from steam production, It's always better to be safe then sorry when it comes to pulling heavy loads up hills, you can notice how in squirrels tutorial on the S282 where he puts the damper down to stop the safety from popping, well thats just because he was too concerned with "Wasting steam" when in reality, you are using up 95% of the steam that you are producing when pulling heavy up the coal line. So popping the safety is materially insignificant in the grand scheme of a haul, and plus the costs of water is so cheap, that it likely won't matter at all, and coal is super cheap as well. So in conclusion, while yes i may have been wasting a bit of steam, most of it was actually being used up, and that excess steam was just to ensure i would stay at maximum steam pressure along the whole climb, rather then putting the damper down, and risk stalling on the grade because steam pressure drops down because of not enough steam production. As for the brakes, it's a good rule of thumb just to keep the brake lever on non self lapping brakes in the lapping position, just so that if you somehow lose pressure in you brakes, you can find where on the train you lost the pressure from, and fix it. Also it's normal operation to keep it in the lapping position when you aren't actively releasing, or applying. Hope this sums up my way of thinking.
@@TheOofertaffy i see where you are coming from but I see two issues with the line of thinking. I agree that you want to keep as high a pressure as possible, but When the safety is popping you are generating more pressure than you are using. It has to leave the boiler somehow. I was only recommending instead of venting it, send it through the cylinders where possible to generate more speed on the climb. You were notched back quite aways while the safety was blowing when you could have notched forward to use that steam instead. I was not recommending dropping the damper. You need all the heat you can get.
Secondly, as the boiler empties, you need to generate a lot more steam to stay pressure. Keeping the boiler fuller, assuming you have the heat, will make keeping pressure up easier as there is a smaller volume to fill with steam. Hence the recommendation to trickle in water. Its a delicate balance.
Lastly, the brakes. Its best practice to leave the handle in release. When held in Lap, it closes the main reservior from the brake pipe. Each car has its own reservior that it uses to apply that cars brakes when the brake pipe pressure is reduced. Those same reserviors are also recharged by the brake pipe. In order to release the brakes, the brake pipe pressure only needs to exceed the auxiliary reservior pressure. If you set it to lap at that point where the train brakes have just released, the auxiliary reserviors will not recharge. Leaving it in release ensures that the auxiliary reserviors are always ready for another application.
@@TheOofertaffy Also seeing this video was weirdly timed as I was just at Coal Mine for the first time, with the S282, hooked up to a 960 ton coal train. I can as of this moment confirm it is doable. But its has to be run on the ragged edge. There were many a boiler explosion after the crest.
That was good work.
Great job!
Excellent
If you use the turnaround you can get a massive head start, got 1600 out with 2 s282 no problem
Yeah ! That was nice haul ! Maybe you can do 1 or 2 more cars at most
I might do a short segment in the next video where i attempt an extra car in sandbox mode just to see if it's possible!
Nice job, i found driving the steamer at night a freaking nightmare in simulator, easy to miss the water lvl just at the wrong moment. Hard work with 880t, and steelmine doesnt pay much for the coal.
You definitely need the lantern on that little shelf on the tender behind the engineer's area on the locomotive. Makes night time hauls a lot more viable
Doesn't pay much? He got 40k base + 20k bonus. That's a lot.
@@marvin95 its ok but doing hazmat from harbor to csw of food factory and back from oilwell to harbor is getting much more, specially since you get payed for both ways.
@@schuttrostig5729 Agreed, but it is fun to switch things up a bit, otherwise the game gets mundane and boring.
Definitely, the small areas I don't use much because they don't pay much, don't use much other than hazmat as they pay the most @@TheOofertaffy
Cool video. I haven't played the game yet but you and Squirrel are the best steam engineers I've seen! How do you decide between opening or closing the main steam valve and tuning the steam chest control (I don't know proper name but I'm talking about the wheel that controls the Walschert gear that controls the dwell time (and direction) of the valves that admit steam to the cylinders).
Sorry if this is too wordy!
Edit: FWIW the game sound was almost drowning out your speech.
Yeah sorry about that, the next video will be better tuned for the audio. Basically, you want consistent steam chest pressure when going up a hill, using the cut-off wheel changes the opening that allows steam into the chest, and as you go faster, more steam gets wasted per piston cycle. This is why you need to come back on the cut-off wheel so you don't waste steam, the more you come back on the cut-off wheel, the smaller the steam opening becomes, therefore making the pistons more efficient, whilst still maintaining the same steam chest pressure. This is critical when doing a hill climb because if you have the cut-off wheel fully forward, you will be wasting steam you need to get up the hill. Hope this answers your questions. And again, i will have better audio in the next video, I had played some minecraft on my twitch, so the audio was tuned to that.
Needs 2 282’s for 1100T+ out of north east coal mine
use some horn