Every Major Change to X-Wing Second Edition, Demonstrated by Designer Alex Davy
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Alex Davy runs down all of the significant rules changes between X-Wing First Edition and Second Edition, with clear examples of new mechanics. Learn everything about the new bullseye arc, barrel roll, Force stat, linked actions, ship abilities, and more!
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40:16 Alex says "which dials were too good" and a Jumpmaster Pilot card appears lol :D
This is amazing. Seems like they really thought everything through. Can’t wait. Love the force and charge additions along with the action chaining and becoming stressed.
hoping to see ep8 luke.
"When defending, you may spend one focus result to fly off the table, then remove Luke Skywalker as a casualty."
What a great video. So happy to see how well thought out this all is and how enthusiastic you guys are! Totally using Davy here as a rules intro and explain here too before for my first games :)
I was lucky enough to get a demo game of 2.0 with Alex Davy at the U.K. Games Expo, where the Euros tournament was held. Not only was it a fun match (a bare Z95 - that I wasn’t expecting to field - very nearly took out Wedge single-handedly!), but the rules, not to mention the new flying of my Z95, YT-1300 & U-Wing, made complete sense and felt much more well-balanced & thematic. I cannot wait for the new version of the game, it’s going to be superb.
Being able to adjust points is going to be great to help prevent power creep.
Can’t believe how few videos there are explaining this. Great breakdown of the differences.
So flipping awesome. Really looking forward to 2.0.
Love the X-Wing content guys, keep up the great work !
Excellent information. Really excited for 2.0 I love the tightening of the rules getting rid of some of the sloppy play that was unplayable before.
Thanks Timothy! So are we!
Thank you this was an extremely informative video, love TC's work on this game!
Thank you Luke!
Excellent video! Love this compilation!
Thanks Bart!
Thanks again Team Covenant for an awesome video! Can’t wait to see more 2nd edition content from you.
Thank you for watching Thomas! Glad to have you.
Oh wow, this all sounds great. And as I just watched an X-Wing battle report video for the first time yesterday, it looks like I've picked the right time to get interested in this game. A fresh start for everyone.
Two questions:
1. My Wave 14 kits did not include any Second Edition Tokens. Is this intentional, or a production error?
2. How did TC land this exclusive access to the crew at FFG? Y’all have been a great resource, getting me really excited for September!
Great questions Mason. Wave 14 will not include the new tokens, so no error there. As for the interview, we asked!
I might have missed it, Do you need to use all force tokens before recharging 1 per round?
Also can you use all 3 force tokens on one turn? is there a Q and A Website or Downloadable rules yet?
Nope, they just recharge once per round.
Yes, you can burn all of your tokens at once if you like.
This guy has the coolest job in the world!
@ 5:10 "If you're Forced to continually spend a Force point ; ) @ 17:15 Jek Porkins in an X-wing with a Turret but we get the idea otherwise nice graphic ; ) @ 38:30 I tried assembling some of my 1.0 dials backwards like that with buying the plastic dial holders. It worked but I had to hold my index finger on the back where the notch was. I think FFG should have maneuver table pilot POV cards the size of the upgrade cards instead of on the insert that you have to cut up or make your own cards which some players do. It's easier to see the options imho but this dial works. I understand the color blind blue but green says Go MTFBWY
at 42:03 that is a 1.0 Tie Interceptor dial, not the 1.0 Tie Advanced dial
I just love that Jek Porkins turret arc :)
So the premium plastic dial covers I bought for 1.0 will still be usable in 2.0?
They should!
Yep, the inside (part with all the maneuvers) are the same size. It's just the cover that's bigger to allow for the newer design.
Super excited!!!
Where is the 2.0 app we were supposed to get? Also the desktop squad boulder doesn't have all the ships....
I was wondering how Medium base ships would do barrel rolls. Now I know.
Did you guys make that playmat and the turrets on it?
The mat is FFG's, as far as we know they are selling them!
hey guys, I had a 2.0 question and I cant find the answer. i know you can spend force tokens essentially as mini focus tokens, but if I have an upgrade card that grants you a force token, are you allowed to use that token to adjust your die roll, or can you only use that token to perform the effect described on the card?
ex:Luke's gunner card says you can spend a force charge to rotate your turret. can I use it to change a focus result to a hit result instead?
Only the pilot force tokens can be used to modify dice.
Interesting to hear Alex talk about the Calculate token in the context of the Clone Wars coming to X-Wing
That is such a dope play mat!
U are really awesome i follow from italy, great content very usefull keep going
Thank you!
Would someone please ask Mr. Davy to fix the Blinded Pilot card. How can a can the tail gunner not shoot if the pilot is blind? example The ARC -170 the tail gunner is facing the back would he be blind. I think. if a ship has the blinded pilot condition if you have a tail gunner or crew operated secondary facing the back and a ship is in your arc you can fire on said target.
Great summery and comparison! Video editing is also top! I rally liked every minute. Thank you!
Does Dengar have to always take a stressful action?
I have a quick question about subscriptions, for xwing. Im new to this channel(just subbed btw, good stuff you have) and new to xwing. I wanted to know what exactly is the subscription for? I saw the video about it but did not understand very well. Is it for getting new expansions for the price of the subscription or do i have to pay for each expansion at a discounted price ? Thanks ahead.
Great question Antonio! With the subscription we will ship you everything you sign up for, and you will often receive it on release day or shortly after. It is designed to save you the hassle of waitlist's (since you do not pay until just before it is ready to ship) and the risk of your FLGS being out of stock! It really is a great service. Let us know if you have any more questions.
Well these changes might get me to take my Xwing stuff back out of storage
Any chance of you guys making 2.0 templates?
We are looking into it right now, it seems that we will!
Team Covenant awesome! I love my Imperial navy templates
The medium ship barrel roll does not make sense thematically. If a ship of that size barrel rolls, I would expect it to end up at a larger distance from the starting point than a small base ship would. I don't understand why we would change the template on its short side...
What if they only flip 180°?
So I'm looking to get into this game. My question is...are there going to be a starter set for 2nd edition, or are there just going to be new ships released with the changes?
Check out the core set for X-wing Second edition, it is the closest thing to a starter set that have, and you need one for the damage deck anyway! You can check it out here: goo.gl/iFxY7V
2:07 That's not how the force works!!
Speaking as a colour blind person, i am very thankful for the green to blue.
I'm looking to get into x-wing, so is this a new game or do I have to pick up stuff from the first edition?
Darth CZcams you can do both. Completely mew ships will be coming out, as well as a new Starter set. But if you pick up ships now, you will be able to buy an upgrade kit for each faction.
If you can pick up some ships from 1st edition for a nice price, you can just buy a conversion kit for a faction. If you are not sure yet, or don't wanna invest much yet then just buy the core set when it comes out.
We actually discussed this very thing not too long ago. It depends on a few things, you can catch that clip here: czcams.com/video/O9GmUbxI3oo/video.htmlm50s
Hey guys. I noticed that FFG released a full size damage deck with nice ship damage detail at GenCon. Do you know if the company plans to release this damage deck as a separate purchase at some later point? Thanks. Take care.
Great question, we have not heard anything about the promo decks being for sale. We will keep an eye out for it though.
I see terrain turrets on that table. Do tell!
That is a mat that FFG has. From what we have seen they use it for displaying, not playing.
One thing I hope they have fixed in 2.0 is that in 1.0 faction identity also seemed to encompass maneuverability. Most of the imperial ships had 3 evade dice and access to barrel roll and the evade action, where the rebels didn’t have much of either. Scum of course was somewhere in between. It does seem like they have re-distributed barrel roll more evenly, but the Rebels are still flying bricks with few ships seeing evade actions or 3 evade dice. I know Imperial players like to complain about green dice, but when you’re only rolling one, it would be nice to roll two more. At least they nerfed the evade action. Overall it looks good, but I do wish they wouldn’t make maneuverability part of the faction identity.
Therefore Rebels had lots of Hull and Shields (much more then Imperial), 360° spam (much more then Imperial), Astrochmechs, higher PS skills and so on and on and on.....
Iseghaal Higher PS skills... really? You had me agreeing until you mentioned skills and PS and not to mention and so on and so on. The truth is that if a ship has a low agility, it needs high hull and shields. It would be funny to give a ship 1 evade die, then only give it three hull. That would be the fastest combat ever. And by the same argument of faction identity a faction’s identity shouldn’t be 1 evade die ships with a ton of hull and shields. I would think you would be agreeing with me, but your comment seems argumentative. I think we’re actually saying the same thing, but you somehow perceived a slight. People are always so ready to “win” an argument, where The was no argument. 😁
Why shouldn't a faction's identity be lower agility and higher shields/hull, though?
Richie Holsinger Because in all the EU content and movies, the Rebels have more than just one type of fighter. It wouldn’t make sense tactically to have all of one type and for game balance/fun factor, having agility as faction identity is Boring. Or were you just kidding?
Tatical Officer card design has changed, and then maybe the design of the Expert Handling, Engine Upgrade, and cards like that might change as well.
Since the card give you an additional action icon, so you end up with 2 equal actions with different difficulties. I think that's why the design of Tactical Officer card has changed. Will see what happens next
Thanks for commenting!
does Ion damage have an effect on droid pilots ?
Would have been nice to get ANY shield tokens in the conversion kit......
so that engine upgrade card is just for converting a boost from red to white? or it also gives ships without boost a red boost?
Actually, it adds a white boost if you have a red boost. Ships without red boost cannot equip it.
Real curious to see if the Engine Upgrade card art is foreshadowing for either a Vaksai configuration for the Kihraxz or an actual Vaksai ship (yes please!). I'd presume the configuration would give the red boost in that case, and maybe lose something else. If neither of these are true then they're just mean to tease us like that :'(
So, it’s now the end of the official release day. I just want to know where this “awesome app” we were promised is.
greeeeeeat. If i want to play this now I will first have to shovel out $150 for all the conversion kits to replace literally EVERYTHING. Since, you know, I have ships for all factions. Joy -_-
wait. so is this pre-order or not?
Both! Or rather Either / Or. If you would like to pre-order we would be glad to do that for your, but we also have subscriptions available.
Every Major Change so are they showing the app?
The Squad Builder app has not been released yet, but we will certainly cover it as soon as it is!
WHERE CAN I GET THAT DEATH STAR PLAYMAT?!
Right! As far as we know FFG had it made for displays. We have not been able to find it for sale.
Would love to see:
Rogue Shadow for the Imperials.
and a Trade Federation Faction:
Droid Fighters
Hyena Bombers
Tri-Droid Fighters
General Grievous Fighter
Jango Fett's Slave-1
Utapaun P-38 Fighter
C-9979 landing craft
Geonosian Starfighter
Sheathipede-class transport shuttle
trade fed is coming... !!! seen it here first XD
Having the points and upgrades tied to online is all well and good until they either discontinue the app or shutdown the servers in the move to 3.0.
This comment aged unfortunately well. : \
A lot of great changes, but a surprising missed opportunity for color blindness in that they still have green/red on the status tokens. Why not just make the greens blue for consistency and accessibility? I get that someone can memorize the symbols and match to the mechanic... but they had already addressed it on one mechanic... why not the other?
We agree, it does seem strange to fix one thing and not the other. Maybe someone should make a compatible product?
Because while all maneuvers look the same, focus looks nothing like stress?
I'm red green colourblind..
Not an issue when colours are seperate, hurts my eyes when they're near each other on a dial.
Icons are different enough to not care either way though :)
and the dice?
Not officially here until September.
"What about those towers?"
So glad the turret mechanic is being revised! Turrets were one of my single, biggest complaint with the original X-Wing edition:
www.megabearsfan.net/post/2017/05/26/Star-Wars-X-Wing-board-game-expansion-review-1.aspx
Us too!
hope you can make a 2.5 video, try to invite the game designer
When 2.0 was 1st released many people were upset over the cost, I personally feel the improvements made more than justifies any additional costs, really looking forward to this release!
Us too! Thank you for commenting.
SportsBanter 38 I don’t give a crap because I haven’t actually spent anything on the game but I was planning on getting into it
The cost is painful (especially considering what I've already spent!). However, they have improved pretty much every criticism I've ever had about the game. In particular, I am excited about flying the X-wing and E-wing, which were far too stiff and sluggish before. The new B-wing looks rad too. LOVE the new dials and the addition of new actions means that every ship has something cool to do! Even the wretched HWK-290 is now vastly improved.
My biggest concern is that the factions have now been split into too many factions and that you can't mix them. you can no longer mix T-65 X-wings with T-70 X-wings, for example, or First Order ties with Imperial Ties. Thematically, it makes sense. But the new factions are less interesting than the classic ones.
It also saddens me is that the Firespray is now exclusively a Scum ship.
However, this matters a lot less now since the playability of the ships has vastly improved across the board. The Rebels and Imperials in particular have so many awesomely redesigned ships that they don't need the other factions as much since they have so many less worthless pilots and ships.
SportsBanter 38 wish it was enough to justify for me but sad it’s just too much money for me to spend after what I already spent
I’m guessing this video was supposed to come out after gen con lol
Not at all! We are happy to bring it to you now.
Whats up with that board though
It a display board FFG uses.
I most definitely want to make one of those boards. It’s a thing of beauty!
so where does x wing 1 come into this?
whooooooooooooooop!!!!!
How are you supposed to change all of your stuff?
You need to either purchase the 2.0 version of the ships, or purchase the $50 conversion kit for each faction that you want to convert over (Rebel/Empire/Scum).
Andrew S. is absolutely correct. We have gathered everything we know about X2 and broke it down to what players need to know in this blog, including upgrading from first edition.
teamcovenant.com/learning/star-wars-x-wing/everything-need-know-x-wing-second-edition-x2-reboot
These changes seem to improve the game a lot. Two things I'm still curious about:
* what is the Engagement Phase? is this a nw Phase or just a name alteration?
* Alex talked about the characteristics of each faction, but didn't mention the Resistance or the First Order. Are these getting their own faction (I think I read about this somewhere) or are they still part of the Rebel and Empire factions?
Francisco Wagner, 1. The engagement phase is essentially combat. 2. These will have separate conversion kits later, so I guess yes - separate. But we'll see how they implement that.
This game is so great but now it is killed by AMG! Can we see a revival?
Alex is a bawsss
2nd edition seems to make squad building easyer as well, i played around with squads and easily understood what the upgrades and everything does, made it more fun, back in 1st edition the meta and what was good got confusing quick, great job on 2nd edition.
Drinking game: Drink a shot when somebody say design space :)
Take a drink every time someone says, "design space."
PetersonZF Seriuosly! I'd be on the floor before the end.
Have you guys left xw completely?
That is a tough question to answer Marcus. Let's tag it with an #AskCovenant and see about getting it answered on an upcoming Covenant Cast.
@@teamcovenant Thank you, and I would love to hear some thoughts about it. Ive on the verge of returning to xwing taking the plunge into 2.0, I was never a competitive player only casual but always loved watching unboxings, tactic talks and batreps on it. The videos made with Alex last year was so fun to watch and full of excitement and joy, then nothing :/
All respect for people enjoying different games, and even growing out of them, but I miss it :/
For me over 170 € to adapt to 2.0, bb Xwing, hi KillTeam
Taking out things like "360 degree firing arcs, that lets you ignore key elements of the game". - Me - Then who ever designed the Luke turret card needs to be let go. . .as in Luke turret = 360 degree firing arc. And now since defense cards have been nerfed (Like auto thrusters), that turret is going be OP. It better cost 100 points. XDDDDD
They also said that force users could very well ignore with key elements of the game.
It costs 30 which is crazy high
ok so now we have more specifics. 1 Luke costs 30 which is insane for the cost. Second its only still 1 set of dice, honestly by design its a more newbie friendly card since more experienced and competitive players would rather roll the X2 with Veteran Turret Gunner or Bistan for the rebels since thats more damage on the board and is more consistent, so long as you plan ahead though again the turrets are going to be good for zoning.
Lastly while you can use it, you cannot check range before using it and it costs a force to use it, and with how you have to commit to actions if you guess wrong and they are outside of your arc or range its wasted.
So, you changed green maneuvers to blue maneuvers b/c of colour blindness, but you kept green tokens? Really?
but the green tokens and dice have unique icons on them the arrows on the dial not so much so even if you are color blind you can still tell what a token does even if it green.
I'm red green colourblind..
Not an issue when colours are seperate, hurts my eyes when they're near each other on a dial.
and dice!!?!!
So, the green moves were changed to blue for color blind people, but the tokens are still green????
Weird right?
well, i guess the Shapes of the Tokens takes care of that........ so it could be they were just addressing the movements in regards to CB people...... they can always use the shapes to signify, but...... is there a difference between Red and Yellow? cuz those yellow tokens vs red tokens might present an issue? hmmm, the plot thickens! haha
Player version 1 for years, quite it when the problems became more and more obvious. Xwing 2.0 seams to address and fix everyone... Dam you Fantasy Fight, now i am buying it again.
lol wow.. this got posted WAAAY after the game they played.
I know you already spent a lot of $$ on your ships, but now you will have to spend even more for ships you already bought in order to play the new rules! I hate it when companies do this.
If X-wing is so good how come there isn't and X-wing 2
wait
chance to make the TIE Phantom great again...what happened: he got 1 attack dice less... wtf
The "Oh, I've noticed something and you should explain it to me" tone, from someone who obviously already knows the answer, is quite infuriating...
However, thanks for all the info!
Yeah. Shame on an interviewer for doing his job of researching before hand and now answering himself instead of getting it straight from the horse's mouth. Shame.
Spent a ton of money on 1.0 and have multiple copies of every single ship across all factions. 2.0? No thanks, won't spend a penny.
That's too bad Tom. 2.0 is really a lot of fun.
Your loss.
God awful new rules. Rip off costs for conversion kits.A sad end to X-Wing.
madquest8 The game will pass you by. See yah.
"Hey we didn't keep our game mechanics consistent with the needless same ship new paint job Wave release cash grabbing sooooo.. throw out all the shit you bought and buy it again! Cos it's way better now
We added the Force
🤮
Why didn't you guys just sell booster packs of upgrades and pilot cards? How many ppl actually are hyped for this 2.0 vs the fact what choice do we have ?
Sour grapes.
Warren33 Conversion kit not satisfying?
Warren33 I'm very excited.