E Rider MODEL 15: Review in London!
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
- We spent a few weeks with an electric bike, to see if it could really take the place of a motorbike in daily, city life. Not only was it incredibly practical and smile-inducing, it was seriously good value too, even if it's not the biggest thrill on 2 wheels you'll ever experience. Thanks to E Rider for their kind support. Editor & Soundtrack: Joe Bradley || Cameras: Oisin Sadek & Sean Sadek || Producer: Searsha Sadek || Presenter: Nadim Sadek
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This is lovely! It's the ideal "in betweener". Neither fish nor flesh or...best of both worlds. It fills the remaining gap.Good idea👍
Excellent option for UberEATS and Deliveroo bike riders.
Good thinking, Douglas! these bikes are incredibly practical and have such a low environmental impact...
if you are talking about food delivery then in theory you could do it, I would get rid of the back box and replace it with something a bit bigger.
spare batteries would also be needed, fill part of the underseat storage with a small emergency pack, have spare battery packs at your base of operations with better battery connectors. the one most vital thing would be an accurate Electric bike computer like the cycle analyst, this will do a better job of telling you when you are running out of power.
If u can sneek a more powerful motor in it yes😁😏
It’s got a 20 mile range
@@davespooney8472 they do have one that had more range was a limited edition I had it I was getting close to 40 miles on it but being a heavy rider and I found how to unrestrict it that soon dropped to about 15 miles 😅 was good fun on something that you don't have to pedal but problem was cars was seeing it as a moped and was beeping me telling me to get off the road or go faster
I used to ride a motorcycle but repairs, tax, petrol, insurance etc made it prohibitively expensive in my current circumstances. I had a couple of other ebikes before and they were ok but they were second (or third) hand and already ridden to death. So I bought one of these and I absolutely adore it.
If you keep the speed lowish and sensible I can’t imagine how far it’ll go on one charge. I normally use it for a day or two then charge it. The battery’s never run out yet and I haven’t even noticed any power decrease. I use it like a moped and don’t usually pedal at all but recently had a 22 mile journey ahead of me and decided to pedal occasionally to conserve the battery (only on long, straight stretches of road because it takes off like a rocket when pedalled!). I was surprised to find that I probably could have made it there AND back on one charge. I have only two minor complaints: when riding with my feet in front of me the pedals frequently hit the road on sharp bends and it does tend to attract attention from people who don’t understand what it is; the nice ones ask me what it is or ask if I should be wearing a helmet - fair enough. However, there are plenty of idiots that shout abuse (I’m 53 - would I really be riding a moped helmetless on a cycle lane?) and sound their horns and tell me I should have a helmet on 🙄
Brilliant to get your thoughts - thank you!
I've just bought this bike today second-hand and it's in fantastic.I've noticed you said about having to turn the pedals to get up to 39 kph.
There is another to do it straight off the throttle without having to pedal.
Four bolts to remove the seat and underneath the seat you have access to the electronic speed controller. There is a white wire which has a single connector on it . Break the connection and the bikewill then do 39 kph off the throttle. There is a brown wire which is very much similar it is for the cruise control so leave it alone
chris wilson serious?
Thanks for the update!
normaly, the wires are, grey or white for de-restrict, ,,so one of them will be the self study wire, and does not matter if that one is disconnected
@chrisnelson I recently got a erider model 20 I was wondering would I also be able to derestrict that bike and how fast do you think that would go if I did ?
Could you make a video of it?
Haha N this is fun. I can see how it could be helpful but it’s so silly looking to pedal on a scooter looking thing. Can you imagine how silly it would look to pedal a motorcycle haha. Also, I laughed out loud when I saw you even took it out on a rainy day. Great choice on the monkey animal, I totally agree!!
Thanks, L - it was surprisingly a LOT of fun working with this bike for a few weeks...it's so easy and so virtuous!
I would rather this one specially because of the pedals, in my country the legal procedures for an electric scooter are the same than a combustion scooter, everything, insurance, driving licence, etc. but if your electric scooter has pedals it is considered the same as a bycicle, so i'm really looking for one of theese
This is so cool
yeah, it's an amazing package!
Where would be the best website to look for one with delivery?
do it really charge when pedaling iv got ( e rider model 15 special edition ) uk south wales.It was not in the instruction manual.
Hello! Yes, that's what we told - that pedalling helps the engine by recharging the battery as you go along. Thanks for commenting!
Can the pedals be removed on this bike?
They have the new Erider Model 18 48V Electric Bike which has a 45mile range
I've been trying to find these or similar moped in the u.s. - some are really wide and look uncomfortable to pedal
only thing stopping me ditching the car for this thing is living in a flat and having to go up and down some stairs everyday. I also dont feel comfortable leaving it outside. If I could find one that weighs around 35kg than mayyybe I could give it a go :(
Hi thinking of getting the erider model 20 hope you do a review
we'll certainly take a look - thanks for the tip!
Hello, do the pedals tuck in and can you just charge the battery instead of pedalling? Thanks
Yes to both but depending on where you live you might have to have the pedals down while riding even if you don't use them
Hi how does this bike perform on hills is it heavy on pedaling??
it's a bit heavy just to pedal...
How far with the mileage if you never pedal
I was using the model 18 of the e-rider. He was tied up by the police and I was fined £300. Now they say either pay the fine or go to court. What do I do? location: london :)
This little thing looks incredible! Perfect for nipping around. How much do they go for?
It is a great little bike, that sits between a bicycle and motorbike, really. As you say, great for nipping around. They seem to be sold for a little over £1,000. Thanks for dropping us a line!
Can you make a review on the Kudaki Sport 2023 Electric Pedal-assist Scooter? You can buy it from MC-Sør I believe.
Just done a night ride into town and back, the lights are not really up to it, in pitch black you get some light to see by but on the road in estates with just street lamps the lights are useless for seeing with. on school of thought is lights on a bike are to be seen with not to see with I disagree. my erider is over 2 years old an ex rental so the lights may be better now but on mine they need some work .
Great video mate! Is the legal minimum age to ride one of these still 14? I saw somewhere that to ride a moped you have to be at least 16 in the UK but I’m not sure if electric bikes fall into the moped category.
It’s legally classed as a bike, so you can ride it under 16
@@DylW216 not in utah?
Sean Maxwell oh, dunno Utah. I live in the uk
the regulations do change, and we wouldn't want to pretend to be legal experts, but our understanding is that it can be ridden as a bicycle would be ridden
Yep. I'm turning 15 this year so I read the UK Govie's article on them. Pedal assisted electric mopeds fall under the EAPC category, as long as they meet the EAPC standards, e.g. max speed of 15.5mph.
Where can these models be purchased ?
Is there a way to derestrict this bike so it can go more than 20kmh
disconnect a plug on the bottom in the wheel well
Hi, I was wondering how long the bike last after a full charge?
hi,my friend,about 40-50km,if you have any other problems,please contact with my whatsapp:008618823670894
@@Fabbricadibicicletteelettriche if ur over about 15stone, it will take u about 15 miles per charge,and bad on hills not much power
@@robertjones1815 please contact with my whatsapp:008618823670894
Any chance that you will do a review of model 18?
We'd love to, but I'm afraid it won't be for a while - we have a whole list of bikes ahead of us for review! Thanks for your support
Thinking of using this to cycle to work, is it ok going up hills? My commute to work is about 6 miles mostly up hill, some of them quite steep. I'd appreciate some info from anyone who's tried it!
Hi Maddie. Our experience is that it goes fine up pretty well any sort of incline, though it's true that it copes much better if you turn your legs/pedals, to let the pedal-boost kick in.
Boss Bikes Club thanks for the quick reply :) that's good to know
@@BossBikesClub not good at all on hills, even you stopped filming as u came up a little incline ........
@@robertjones1815 honestly, we had so little to complain about with this bike!
can you do reviews for other E Rider models please?
We'll certainly try to do so in the future. Is there one in which you have a particular interest?
Does anyone know if we can take these sort of bikes on to trains?????? As it is a normal Bike etc.
You probably could, legally, but they're not that easy to man-handle!
How do I change the gear on it
Great review, but please, always always, wear a helmet and encourage others to do so ( especially teens). I do have an ebike, but this looks more fun and easier as you have the option not to pedal.
Thanks for your observations Ian!
Very good bicycle buy it
Hi there, how fast does this go on throttle only?
15mph
How many miles for throttle only
I'm wondering whether it's worth getting one of these or just getting an electric bike where pedalling is easier...
I think it comes down to whether you want to pedal much? If you don't, this is a great bike!
If anyone is still interested: I bought a similar model 4 months ago and am extremely happy with it. I didn't even install the pedals, here in Austria you don't have to for it to qualify as an ebike. I just use the electric motor only. It's gives me the benefit of both worlds: cars take it more seriously than a bike, they treat it like a slow scooter. I have good lights, turn signals, brake light. And I can use bike paths as well, so I can avoid car traffic where there is a bike path. Or use those streets that are one way except bicycles.
Also, normal eBikes are stolen extremely often. Everyone thinks "oh, an ebike, that's something worth stealing". They see this thing and think "meh, that's some cheap Chinese knock off Vespa, not worth stealing". Way less of a target than a normal ebike.
How much do you think it costs to fully charge it?
Hello. We suggest you contact E Rider directly for that sort of information. Informally, we believe it's a lot less than a pound, and it could be just a few pence.
The cost to fully charge a 48 volt bike with 20 amp hour batteries (which I believe this is) is approximately 8 cents in Canadian currency. lol. Not kidding. Might cost you 2 or 3 pounds a month ..... max.
You said pedaling charges the bike?
Yes, that's what we understand from the supplier. Although the pedals generate almost no resistance, just the act of turning the pedals results in a charge...
The whole thing about bicycle pedals is that when your legs are at their maximum extent (pedal at bottom), your leg should be straight or very nearly straight. Any other configuration, such as happens when you have the seat set too low, makes you look and feel like a dolt. The pedals should be usable with proper seat adjustment, or the pedals should simply be removed. That's my opinion.
For sure, this is not really a bicycle designed to be cycled...but they do serve a purpose and increasingly, we'll see these 'hybrid' solutions
Is IT waterproof
It doesn't love water, but we didn't see much deterioration over six months...
Are the pedals detachable
not easily, no
Can you review the Model 18?
Thanks for your comment - we'll certainly keep it in mind: good suggestion!
Is the battery remoeable?
Was you motoring along by just throttle?
I thought e-bike’s pedals must be in motion for motor assistance to be provided.
It does work on throttle only, yes, but not giving full power
@@BossBikesClub The UK law is supposed to be 4mph throttle only, 15.5mph assisted with pedals and any higher has to be pedal only
@@TheAviation101 he’s within the law then as pedals are included
@@Secret19977 I found out that actually there's a 250W low power moped (LPM) class, no insurance nor license required etc. I've just registered my bike as an LPM. Even if it has pedals, to make the throttle work above 4mph, you have to go through MSVA 250W LPM. The code is L1e-A
Or if the bike was manufactured before 2016, it can be 200W 15mph with throttle without registering anything
hi where in UK is this e-bike available in store or online
Take a look at their website and I'm sure they'll help you: eriderbikes.com
Thanks for link
@@Dfusion631 you're welcome!
Will it pull me up a hill? I’m 20 stone by the way.
Can the battery be removed, charged up and then returned?
Yes, it can - it's not entirely easy, but it is designed so you can do that.
@@BossBikesClub Thanks for the reply good to know.
@@tornadosam87 no problem! :)
From where I can buy it or what’s the contact details
Super
Thanks!
@@BossBikesClub no problem
Great bikes but you can get them cheaper from other places I found they am just rebadged chinese bikes and I found them on aliexpress even with the stickers on that is on the bike in this video. I loved mine but build quality was poor the rear lock that locked the back wheel had packed up the frame was rusting and the stand broke 3 times had it replaced and it happened again (this was about 6 months in of ownership). It wouldn't return up and would sit drooping down. I also derestricted mine and was able to do 28mph on private land of course. The acceleration for such a small motor isn't a bad thing either especially when I weigh heavy and so does the bike. Resale value is none existant aswell as I had it up for sale with the extended range battery for 700 and had not a single call or message for months till someone offered 600 yet the bike was 1400 when I got it and I owned it just over 6 months.
hi pal how did ya derestrict it, i have similat bike,
@@robertjones1815 there is 2 wires that comes from the controller they plug into each other take separate them and it removes restriction I think I found mine hidden under the seat had to strip bike down a bit to get to it
@@MegaNayton thanx pal for ur help,ill give it ago in the morn, have recently subscribed you,cheers,all the best
Do you need a licence,tax , insurance to ride this in England?
When we filmed it, the answer was no...but it's best to check current regulations
no good for robbing gold smiths and no storage for a sledgehammer
That's true, but brilliant for a silent getaway!
Are you saying this bike could take the place of a combustion engine bike in a city commute?
Simply, yes. So long as you don't have stretches where you're going over 25 mph, it works, especially because you can not only go in bus lanes, but also take bike paths, and park pretty well anywhere. It's incredibly versatile.
@@BossBikesClub I agree with you to some extent, before you go on a long journey first test how far you can go on one charge have a friend with a van to take you home or go on a circuit round near your home so you have a short distance to go.
take your charger with you this will increase how far you can go in a commute.
@@kendrickapps674 That sounds very sensible! Thanks for watching.
U need a helmet.. Dr's can fix everything but ur head..be safe, have fun.
you are right...we are simply demonstrating that the rider of this bike is not legally obliged to wear one.
@@BossBikesClub I was looking into it and it says you must wear a helmet with anything with an electric motor,it has maybe changed since you filmed this.
@@johngreenhorn8853 Thanks for the update!
I have an iPed Classic only just got it for spares and repairs need to get a few parts but I can't find nothing on it who the manufacturers are all their website doesn't come up with nothing can you help me with this query I'd love to get the parts to fix it up
Thanks for getting in touch. We can't help directly, but perhaps you could get in touch with E Rider - we've found them very responsive and helpful.
@@BossBikesClub thank you very much are so check them out
Does the same laws apply in Germany
I'm afraid you'll have to establish that yourself, Ali - we are not legal experts.
Boss Bikes Club it’s basically a e-bike right?
@@aliozdil6586 yes
So can i now ride the model 18 without a license tax etc i have a ban for a few more months so don't wanna break any laws ....no way asked our local police and they said "we cant give legal advice" wow ????
Is this really legal? I've got an electric bike rather than one of these because it looks rubbish but it's not legal to use a throttle.
Hi Steve. This bike comes with a 'Fully Road Legal' plate on the back, and E Rider is clear that everything we've shown here is indeed legal. Thanks for watching!
@@BossBikesClub I don't see how it can be, electric bikes are limited to 25km/h with pedal assist and they can't have a throttle so this would be classed as a moped by the laws I'm aware of. Is there something I don't know about?
Ill be going for the model 60 or 75 as soon as I've saved up enough but I will get one of these things for my boy when he's old enough as long as I confident it's not going to be taken from him by the police.
For you to be really comfortable, I'd suggest you speak directly to E Rider, as they do all the certification and compliance work. But I can tell you we were stopped by the police, simply because they were curious abou the bike and their conclusion was simply, 'it's sweet!'
@@BossBikesClub thanks for your help, it sounded like you were from e rider for a second there.
Who told you ebikes can't have a throttle? It's bollocks, they've always been allowed them in UK law.
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20 miles is piss poor isn't it really
its all down to battery life make positeve certain that they stock spare batterys or you will be very disapointed that is all scooters it could be 250 quid on top in a years time check it
building your own battery pack is not that hard just remember to use a BMS, match the voltage of the battery to the speed controller and the battery to the charger.
Twist grip is illegal in UK
Hmmm...the laws are pretty murky
Twist grip is not illegal regular 50 cc scooters operate by twist throttle.
15mph isnt much good is it ? better off getting an e bike or somat
At about the 5 minute mark you said about parking on the pavement: PLEASE do not do this! Anything on the pavement is a potential hazard to blind and partially sighted people and if the pavement is blocked it can mean that parents' with babes in buggies and prams will have to walk in the road.
Ok first off, your back wheel wobbles.
Secondly the fact that you pedal and get up to 25 mph and the motor is helping you to reach that speed makes your bike illegal under the law, the motor according to the law must cut out at 15.5 mph once you reach this speed the motor must by law to keep it perfectly legal cut out.
That means if you pedal the motor must not assist your pedalling, which is what this bike is doing.
A2B metro got into a lot of trouble over this and at one stage every bike you bought from them would take you to 15.5 and then even though you pedalled would produce a very unwelcoming effect of pulling you back.
Most bike makers now ignore the law now, so technically this bike is illegal if you are able to pedal it up to 25 mph while the motor is still switched on and providing assistance.
In some EU countries they are not permitted twist and go, they have no choice but to pedal twist and go is considered a motorcycle, in the UK we are permitted twist and go.
But not permitted by law the faster speeds as some other countries permit up to 28mph on what is considered a super electric bike, I believe they have to carry a registration plate but no insurance or license and may still use cycle lanes.
In the UK anything over 250 watts 15.5 mph is considered a moped, anything without pedals is considered a moped or motorcycle including scooters, until the law is changed which we are all holding our breath for and have been for the past 10 or more years.
Thanks for all the information!
Bet you are fun at parties
Cbt or not?
No insurance then.Great news to to poor bugger who gets hit by one of these things ridden by a teenage tool.This is obviously a loophole in the law.Insurance for anything using a public highway should be law as far as I'm concerned.
In that case you'll be needing insurance to walk aswell
@@MegaNayton Have you ever known anyone get seriously injured or killed by someone walking into them!!!! People have been by riders on scooters and bikes.
Basically it's an over weight bicycle that has lots of plastic on it to make it look like a moped, it's under powered and is this way to try and legally get around the law, but technically due to the pedallec being able to reach speed of 25 mph it does not conform to the law though most police will not be in the least bit interested in testing the bike.
This kind of bike would be good if it were a 500 watts or a 1000 watts then it would have a reasonable amount of power but for the price you could buy a nice regular Electric bike and not have all that plastic to lug around.
The concept is good but the reality does not hold up.
You can't adjust the seat height so your legs are always sticking out when pedalling and the latest price of them is too high for what you are getting.
we understand your perspective, but of it's good to know that this is a real option for many people
Guess it’s a bicycle for lazy/ tired people and will probably get a following with school kids who want early access to a scooter.
We think it's good for kids, those without a driving licence, those who have lost a driving licence...all sorts! Thanks for watching...
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My Father will never allow me to have a motorbike/moped/scooter.
But this sounds hopeful as it is an e bike. Better than g tech.
Sounds quite good for anyone in later years of education like I am. A way of fun and commuting.
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britboyinsa Its also good for people like me, I loved riding my bike but had to give it up when I got nerve damage in my legs, with this bike I can enjoy ridding again! :-)
They are not legal ebikes. You must have EU type approval.
Nice review but bike is very ugly
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and it depends on your perspective, too! :)
Only £1000 to look totally ridiculous.
Riding around on a death trap.
It's a bargain for sure.
you could say that...or you could see it with open eyes
@@BossBikesClub Oh my eyes are wide open. Why not remove your blinkers and stop encouraging people to ride these dangerously underpowered machines.
You've been given this poor option by a government that wants to put the kybosh on eco friendly transport and they're doing a great job in doing just that.
This is a pedal assist push bike with a hopeless 250W motor disguised as a motor scooter and you're happy with that?
Open your eyes to the technology that has been been available globally for years and ask yourself why are speeds and wattages being sorely restricted in the UK.
I don't see Boris's Daimler restricted to 28mph in urban areas, it's a nonsense unless you realise that if they can't tax it, or get duty out of it, you can't be allowed to have it. Amen.
Do you realise that the activity in this video is completely illegal? If the bike in question will indeed go over 6kmph without pedalling (as shown) or if the assist still works to help propel it at speeds of over 25kmph (as shown) then the bike doesn't qualify as an EAPC (electrically assisted pedal cycle). Therefore it cannot legally be ridden without a helmet, without a drivers licence, or on cycle lanes - only on the road. It needs to be registered, insured and taxed. I'd be very careful posting videos like this showing and promoting the illegal use of this vehicle. There's a good clear Cycling Weekly article online - "Electric bikes and UK law".
Thanks for taking the time to watch our review and post your comments. We suggest you contact E Rider directly with your observations, as the bike was reviewed and ridden in line with the information provided to us by the manufacturer and their interpretation of the laws governing the vehicle's use. Thank you.
Thanks for the reply. But E-Rider can say what they like. They don't make the laws (which are fairly clear since 2016), and it's not their video.
Equally, you, and we, can say what we like. It's all about interpretation. We were advised that the things we reported about this bike are true and fair. Thanks, in any case, for your comments!
I've just brought one of these, I took it to the local police station to get it checked out and security marked and the sergeant informed me it is perfectly legal to ride this on the road, cycle paths and bus lanes, he also told me I don't need a licence, insurance, road tax and the scooter does not need to be registered with the DVLA, I asked him what the age was to legaly ride this on the road and he said you have to be 14 or over, you can ride it under 14 but only on private roads, he did advise me to purchase the back plate which gives the specifications and states fully road legal, he said this would stop officers pulling me over who think I'm ridding a mopped without a helmet, something you don't legaly need to do when ridding the eRider model 15 btw. And the officer who told me all this has done numerous studies into these bikes as he is in charge of the team of officers who use push bikes, the police are even looking into getting these for their officers. Hope that clears up any misunderstandings about the legality of these bikes.
Garry Frost Thanks for the reply, but I find it deeply worrying that the your police officer has shown such a poor knowledge of the law. If you want to let us know which force it is (and ideally which station and sergeant) I'll happily contact them and ask them to stop advising people to break the law. I'd be very interested to hear his interpretation. It might be that he wasn't clear that the assist on the E-rider is not limited to 15.5mph, or that it does not depend on the pedals being in use as the law requires.
The point is that I'm not asking anyone to take my word for it, or that I personally know better than the police. The information is on the government's own website. www.gov.uk/electric-bike-rules "Its electric motor...should not be able to propel the bike when it’s travelling more than 15.5mph" Otherwise it's basically an electric motorbike, so how come the rules are different, just because it's battery powered? That's why it doesn't matter what E-rider say about it either. I will admit that the website isn't the most clearly worded, which is why I have also mentioned the cycling weekly article, which explains the legislation more clearly, including how it changed in 2016.