Farmall H & Farmall M: 5 Differences
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- čas přidán 25. 02. 2020
- Farmall H & Farmall M: 5 Differences. Antique tractors working on the farm. Vintage farm machinery working on the farm. #FarmallFanatic #farmallh #farmallm
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Thanks for sharing this video. I shared it to my Facebook page and subscribed to your you tube channel. I have my own channel that I just started back at the end of November. I love tractors. Although I never owned an M, I sure got to drive a bunch of them. Never have driven an H.
Thank you!
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My first job was driving an H pulling a hay wagon at age 6. That was living!
When I was growing up, the M was what you used to pull the H out of the mud.
When I was growing up, the IH 650 was what you used to pull the M out of the mud.
I remember an exceptionally wet fall, and we chopped corn with our Farmall H pulling our Farmall 350/chopper/chopper box through the mud holes. My dad would send me through with the H first, and he would follow behind. We had two long chains that were attached to a tire in the middle connecting us. A year or two later we upgraded to real power (Farmall 806)! Tractors have come & gone over several decades, but the H my grandfather bought in 1948 still remains on the farm. I just drove it a couple weeks ago while visiting my parents. The sound & smells of it just brings back memories!
@@driftlesshunter9200 My "H" Wasa 1946... It's still going strong although nowadays it pulls the hay wagons for fun and hay rides !
I had a Farmall-m which was 1941. I purchased it in 1977 for a auction sale. The engine need work and the mechanic that worked on it changed it into a super M. I was in high school at the time. I was very pleased with its performance. I and my mother did a lot of work, my mother ran a 8N ford. Now at age 82 I still miss that tractor. I enjoyed your comparison of the two machines. Thank you.
The M and H series tractors continued into the numbered series. Basically they became live PTO tractors. I've owned an M and a Super H tractor, and they were both great tractors. With the right soil conditions you could pull a 3 bottom plow with an H. The number series 300 and 400 added live power which was a GREAT improvement on the versatility of these tractors. One of the best features of the Super H's and M's was the disc brakes which were far superior to the drum brakes. Another great feature was the ability to adjust the rear wheels to almost any width because you could put the wheels dished in or out, rims wide or narrow, and slide them on the axles nearly a foot on either side. You could even put duals on those tractors, even though they really didn't have the HP for it, unless you dropped in a bigger engine. I think they were the finest tractor of the time, and many are still earning their keep on working farms running augers or pulling wagons. What kind of machine that's 80+ years old can say that??
There will never be another tractor built like these ones
My parents are both gone from this earth, but they were Farmall fanatics. One of many was the Super M with the deadly farmhand attachment as dad called it. Thanks for the video!
Wish I knew em n yes they are deadly
Good information as always on the Farmalls. Looking forward to seeing both of them in the field this spring. Stay safe.
Long story short. Getting my grandfathers m farmall this week. He's been passed away now several years. Grew up using this tractor so stoked to get into my possession. So many memories. Thanks for the videos
Heirloom tractors are the best
Great breakdown brother. Red power! BOOM!!! You gotta want it!!!
I'm still a JD schill but can appreciate the love for the Farmall.
Rob
I really enjoyed knowing the differences . My grandpa had 4 M's and 2 H's . The first tractor I got left by myself in the field cultipacking was a C at around 9 or 10 years old .
Cool thanks Farmall for the info. They sure are cool tractors.👍👍
Both tractors looks great, I bet they do a good job on the field 👍
I always wondered about the differences between the two (besides the size). Thanks for the video 👍🏻🇺🇸
We had a Super M with wide front end and a H with the tricycle front end. The H was only used occasionally for a sickle bar mower. My only experience with it was to pull hay wagons when we sold hay a few miles away from the farm. The Super M was for manure spreader, haybine, kicker baler, and brush hogging. As a teen, I was only allowed to run it once running the brush hog over hay to make bedding. Typically, I was always running the Ford Golden Jubilee. It is still on the farm long after they stopped farming. About 8 years ago I ran my neighbor’s Super M brush hogging red brush for days on end. Wish I could have bought it but he sold it.
Thanks! Answered all my questions.
👏🏽 awesome tractor 🚜 I like the M great 👍🏽 information as always
You broke it down well! Thanks!
Just found your channel and subscribed . Spent many nights after school on a Super C plowing and discing Dad got the big tractor a 350. Any way thanks brought back some good memories.
My dad had a super h that he used for racking hay and other small stuff.He always had his super m hooked up to the farm all 2 row corn picker.my first 6-8 years of life I never saw the super m then one day he decided he needed another tractor so he took the corn picker off.it was like we had bought a new tractor lol.i still remember being a little guy and me and my dad going to spread manure with the m. Farmalls are fantastic tractors.
Great information and comparison of both.
As always a great video please keep that snow over there my brother
That was interesting! I was wondering about some of those things.
Now this was a great idea for us city folks to learn about Farmall Specially since JD is most the popular. Awesome comparison and historical facts. You my friend are definitely a Farmall Fanatic. They both beautiful and sound great. Dang the M has taken people life. That’s a mean machine.
Thank you! Yea JD is very popular here too. Two dealerships nearby
Very informative buddy!
Just found you and wanted to show support. 7* ! Yikes! Beautiful bright red against the winter skies.
Thank you!
Thanks for the background,look forward your next vid. Those are fine looking tractors, your making me jealous
Trust me, there are plenty more that I want haha
@@FarmallFanatic You got the right idea
Those are some cool tractors
My grandpas M has the M&W pistons, governor and throttle, and 2 speed. I took it to college and got it running after 15 years of sitting in an open shed and it dynoed 40hp. He put that stuff on it after poking a hole through the side of the block while picking.
✝️🇺🇸👍great video I learned how to drive on a m I was so little had to use both feet to push in the clutch I sure do miss them days . Still have that tractor means alot to me now that my grandfather is gone
Yea that's an heirloom tractor
I have a C,H and M.
45 degrees in feb. In Iowa here it usually is -10
Nice Vid
dad bought a 51 H new and ordered it with the high compression head with larger valves and IHC 3 7/16ths high compression piston set it dynoed at 31hp. . the 44 M i restored came out on distillate but had flat head 4 inch pistons in it when i got it. it cracked a head and a 450 high altitude lp head was on it. it dynoed at 62hp after overhaul. . i ovehauled a lot of M tractors as a IHC dealer mechanic and 52 to 57hp was common depending on which head and compression ratio piston set they had..
if you bought a fully tricked out M&W M with the hand clutch the 9 spd and the stroked engine carb kit and governor upgrade there was one farmer that also did the transmission upgrade as well with heavier gears and bearings. it dynoed at 75 hp and pulled a 5 -14 plow in original 2nd gear but pulled a 4 -14 plow in 3rd better. after breaking the imput shaft bolts and drive yokes off pulling the 5 bottom he went to the 4 bottom. i had to fix it in the field one of the times. he was pulling a 14 ft disk and he had duals on it.. the feild was too wet to load it to take it to the shop. i helped another mechanic drop the belly pump and replace the input shaft and drive yoke in the feild..
Can you get those other heads and things now-a-days, just in case if people want to restore tractors with the higher output with original parts??
@@andrewbeckman351 if you can find a 400 or 450 LP head but the new valves might be much harder to find if you need replacements
@@brokenwrench1 thank you very much sir
Nice looking tractors, thanks for sharing the differences
My Dad bought a new H in 51, 10 years before I was born. Potatoe farm. By the time I was 9 or 10 I was cutting hay with the sicle mower, and cultivating 2 rows of spuds with the front mount cultivators. Engine was replaced in 69, claimed 40 or 44hp, new engine had distributor instead of mag. Pulled a 3 bottom plow. It was an old work horse. Loved that tractor.
Great video. Thanks.
PS the bill of sale for it was in a drawer and cost $1995.00 in may 1951.
Very cool.. lot of money in 51
Now your just showing off..Farmall fantiac..love that sound..
Haha just a little
😎 that you showed your H and M and showed the differences..
My Pop rescued a 1947 M that had been in a barn that burned down. He got it in 1952, the year I was born, Pop, and Uncle Clifford rebuilt it that winter. We used it on our dairy farm, for everything. We had a Farmall 14 that Grampa bought new in 1939, and a 1953 Super C Pop bought when I was a teenager. One of my brothers has the M, now.
Very Informative video...
Great comparison of the 2 machines
thank you for this its Great!
Good video interesting content ty💪👍👍
Neat! Well done 🚜🚜
Hmm
My quick identifier, if I can’t make out the letter in a photo or video, is the steering shaft. It has a bit more angle on the H than the M.
Grandad had an 8 acre retirement farm within city limits, and grew corn on it. We used two-row equipment on a1948 M, that I spent a lot of hours on, into the mid-eighties. A you said about putting on Super M parts, he always said it had the Fire Creator pistons of the Super in it. It powered the irrigation pump with a roughly 20’x10” (?) belt.
Great running tractor! For all I know, it may still be in service.
Hi. I watch your channel from Australia. Love it. Have an aw6. A w6 made in Australia 🇦🇺. Tough as and pulls like a mule. Awesome. Keep up the good work. 👍
Those W series are beasts
💥 interesting info 👍
My Grandfather bought an H new NFE with loader,snow bucket,calivator, & bolt on rear sickle at mower
$800 picked many rocks with that tractor & loader. ( hang on tight to that wheel, that spinner will
Wack your wrist) tough to steer with loader. Great videos buddy.
Spinners are knuckle busters no doubt
Great video bro! You putting the Pusa plan to work for ya! And it’s workin!!! Good going brother! Your exactly right about the 1952 yearly wage..... but I really like both of those babies!
What's the pusa plan? Lol
About to pick up that exact tractor the H I mean, really enjoying your videos and information keep them coming!
Youll love it! Thank you!
@@FarmallFanatic well I already own a cub and a couple case va and vac as well as a JD B but wanted a bigger farmall and the price is so ridiculously low I have too
My Grandpa had the H and the M good time riding on them.
For some reason I love the little H tractors I have 3 so far two 41s and a 48. I wish I could get one for every year they made them. one huge difference is the H tractors had a option it could be bought with steel wheels.
Great video nice looking tractors!
I really like my H...it's become a planting tractor
Great video
I owned a ‘39 M for a while. It was a beastie
Yea they are
That was one of the very first of the series. That gives it a little more Collector value 2 - Day.
We had a 1949 M my grandpa bough brand new and my father and I used it every day on our dairy farm up until we sold our cows in 1990! I still own and use it for small jobs around our farm! It has a little pony tank on it and my dad told me that back when he was young the tank was used for gas
To start the tractor and the big tank was filled with kerosene. Since kero was 10 cents a gallon and gas was 15 cents they started it on gas and turned a valve to run tractor on kero all day. Food for thought I guess! 👍🏻 The sad part is the cost of that tractor wouldn’t buy front tires for one of my tractors I have now!
Yea, that tractor is a classic. They are scrapping 100s of these a day. They may be priceless eventually, but you n i probably wont see it.
A 1948 farmall H was probably the first tractor I ever saw one year older than myself my parents said by the time I was two any time Dad wasn't using it I was on it. I was in love ♥️
Mine will never leave 👍
I have the 46 H my grandpa bought new and I remember him telling me he got the tractor, corn picker, cultivator, drawbar and wheel wrenches etc. the whole kit and kaboodle for $1350. It was rebuilt last in the late 70's with a Super H kit.
Nice
I only got to drive my bosses wide front Farmall M once back in 2007. I remember that the seat had no support, so it traveled way up and way down driving down the pasture pulling a creep feeder. Then I pulled an old tandem axle New Holland manure spreader and fully loaded it and the cast iron draw bar broke in half and there was the manure spreader laying on the ground. They should have had a heavier draw bar on them. :(
Well it's only a thirty six horsepower tractor
We had a narrow front Farmall H with a belly mower for mowing our yard as a kid. I always remember wishing that it would have had live pto, because I was always having to step in the clutch, because we had so many obstacles in our tight yard and then the mower would shut off.
Yeah it's definitely tricky
I LOVE FARMALL'S I used to be married to Missouri Gal and her uncle owned a huge farm and had a mess of Farmalls around the place. He got me to mow the back 40 with his M, down in deep Missouri, one afternoon mid summer. DANG it was hot but they kept me supplied with iced Tea so all good. Sadly we split up and Im back in the UK were no one has even HEARD of these magnificent tractors. :((( Maybe 1 or 2 over here
I have a 1941 H, runs like a top! Those old farmall are amazing
No doubt
Another good video. When I was a kid I worked on my uncle's farm. I can remember discing with a Farmall Super "M" from daylight until after dark. I would fallow my cousin who was driving an International 966 diesel. He had lights and I didn't. So I followed him the best I could
My uncle and cousin said that when they wanted to see where I was the only thing they could see was the muffler that was glowing red.
Back then you would unhook the disc and then grind some corn to feed pigs. Then hook the disc back up and head back to the field. Some time after that I pulled a hay wagon. unloaded onto a bale elevator into the hay loft in the big barn. I threw a lot of bales. Baling time the hole Family came out to help. The woman would set up meals right in the field. We had a couple of Families that farmed and helped each other. It was huge Fun. Then during corn harvest I would pull a gravity wagon to the elevator to unload. Sometimes two at a time. Good times!
I'm trying to bring those times back
Well you just brought these memories
back for me. Thank you!
Because of the way I was brought up I've tried to include Family and Friends in work, hunting and our civic volunteer work For my Children as much as myself. I wanted my Kids to experience the best of the things that I have Enjoyed in life.
I come from a really good Family. When I was a Kid it was just " Normal People." Not till I became older do I realize just how Wonderful my Family really was. Though most of them are gone now I've tried to make my Kids understand how important Family and each member of our inner circle are. It wasn't until recently that I fully understand how Temporary the Good Things in Life are.
So gather up whom ever will show up. Have a Safety meeting with well defined Rules. Fire up the tractors and pretend it's all about getting the work done! But we know the real Goal for the day is Time with your People. If some work gets done thats good too!
In the 1940s-1950s, small farmers were still adapting horse drawn equipment to be towed by a tractor
It's Rock Island, IL. Rockford, IL is also a northern Illinois city. 🙂 Love your videos! Keep em coming...
Thank you!
M and w hand clutch were used a lot when baling and filling silo. When you get bunch up in front of the pick up. The PTO would keep running allowing to keep feeding the baler.
Very good explanation
Oh , 😎the beauty of it (Farm)all🖐♥️
*You know a lot about those farmalls thanks for the lesson* #WorldsOkayestFarmer
Nice soundtrack!
My dad had a 49 M and he put an M&W stroker crank and M&W high compression pistons in it. He put it on a dyno and it cranked out 63 hp! It's amazing how much power an H had on the belt, especially when you put an M belt pulley on it! We had a steel pulley! Really rare!
Amazing....gotta watch the final drives at that point lol
@@FarmallFanatic my cousin bought it from a dealer in 63 and I got to drive it at his place. It's been overhauled a few times and no longer has the m&w stuff in it. I wanted to buy it and keep it in the family. He sold it before he died and it sets in a building, getting overhauled yet again. The rear end is still original. They really built them to last!
That turbo sound good👍
Are they both turbo? You said 36hp stock and both gas but didnt mention if turbo...only in begining
interesting to know the differences
*full view😊 👍Au👍got our like😊 supported*
I spent some time on the M, when i was a child, but mostly i Raked hay with the 200. The M was on the baler. Later we had a 400, i didn't like the 400 to heavy to steer. Loved the 756 the 826 and the 986 thought!
And lets not forget the 140
Yeah that was the new long well base sir, the one I saw had the main pipe under the radiator and the wheels were at that same length. But gorgeous tractor's none the less. My first boss owned several h's and m's now his one grandson owns the 2 h's and they are what are called sister tractors one followed the other in the serial numbers, now the grandfather told me the motor is way less than the pto horsepower, like almost half as much.
Excellent video
Hello I have just recommended you to a new friend of mine I told him you were the man👍💕
Oh yea this guy. He's a cool guy
Thank you 👍
@@FarmallFanatic No probs When he mentioned that he was looking for a Deere 345 or something I immediately thought of you👍😊💕
Nothing like a ol school tractor love the videos Farmall
Thank you!
Good basic info
I have a 1948 M and I put duals on it and it looks awesome
Id like to dual this out
I know we got a couple of each . never been rebuilt still running good machines
Good info our 49 G we had on the farm had a m and w power block in it and dyno tested at 49 hp
I did a video on a G
Yes I saw that we had duals on it and wasn't much it couldn't do
I had a 39 M. Low serial number. Had 36 inch rear factory rims.They only had 36s on the first m models
Great video !
I grew up on farmall tractors had a M and a super C and we had a super M with a one row cotton picker on it and 2 504 farmall diesels wish I still had those tractors
Ever have head gasket issues with those 504Ds?
Oh yeah ! I remember rebuilding at least one of them every year
One of them I remember having 2 head gaskets because of a warped head
Water in the oil, blowing coolant out the radiator due to leaking head gasket
Not many parts on those old tractors that I haven’t held in my hands 🤲🏻
I have seen that old super M cotton picker get so hot i swear you could see the pistons going up and down in the block
@@nickdial8610 oh I bet!
I had a 806 boy that was tough old tractor it was about worn out when I bought it and i used it for several years
BABAAM! It don’t get no gooder than THIS!
Very interesting thanks
👍👍Nice!
Nice to learn more about the vintage Farmalls. If you get a chance, can you run one of my playlists this week. I need 133 hours to hit 4K. I'm so close!! Thanks!
Your M and H is awesome, but the M is amazing!
My dad's 1941 H with a narrow front-end was a cinch to steer. I worked one summer for a neighbor who had a Super M-TA. It was dang near all I could do to steer it - so much heavier.
Yea huge difference
great tractors
I have both an M and an H. M with wide front end, H with row crop front end. Tbh the H is hands down my favorite of the 2. Yes the M has a little more power, but it also has more weight that engine is pushing so it's pretty much a wash. Tire size has a pronounced effect on power to the wheels, and imo lots of people make a mistake by putting bigger rubber on them than was original.
I agree.. you lose torque
My grandpa told a story of when he started farming in the early 40s he traded his horses for an "H". His dad, my great grandpa wasn't happy he got rid of the horses, but after using the "H", my great grandpa bought an "M"
Hahaha great story
I am here listening and dont understand a thing but damn you make it sound interesting Farmall my friend.
Haha thank you!
Thanks. For information. My uncles farmed. One like red. The other liked green. Just educational in the engineer ing field. No computer simulation ..field experience.
I’m 15 and I own a 51 Farmall M and got it around 10 when my great uncle died and I inherited it and I’m going to restore it one day when I’m older
Had a 53 SuperM/TA with a reworked head and a paper air cleaner Power Steering and it would work with a 400 side by side, but the 400 had live hydraulics and PTO so the next step was a 706.
I believe that...good step! 282 or German 310?
Nice tractors.
Thanks Mark
Some noticable differences.👍
The s is silent 😉
You told me to pronounce the S
Nice comparison think may have this backwards but think they had kerosene heads where they started on gas and ran on Kerosene. H'& M's were very versatile tractors used from loggers sawmill and farmers. Have a good one Farmall booom
That is correct
Some difference’s are the starter placement on the bell housing and steering shaft angle.
Yep 👍
My grandfather had the tricycle super M and pulled a 3 disk plow with a wheel that connected to the steering wheel..
Hey Bud, that was some interesting facts about those two machines. I was wondering what the difference was between the M and the Super M. I just like the H, that's the one I like seeing work. Have a BLESSED day.
Eventually I will do that video
M had 248ci, SM had 264ci plus disc brakes and that's about it at first. 53 they put live hydraulics, moved the battery under the seat. And changed to sealed beam headlights. The front emblem was changed on the first series. The hitch parts are beefier. And probably some other little stuff I can't think of right now.
@@wesleycallison2079 you must have taken your eyes off the screen. I put in big yellow numbers C248 👍
I wasn't correcting you .lol I was answering Boxie sorry. It's pretty fun for me here in Farmall heaven.
@@wesleycallison2079 oh gotcha lol...no doubt...red power heaven! 👍
Dont see many Farmalls over here in the Highlands. But i have seen a few for sale up here. Two fine looking bits of equipment tidy for there age. 👍✌ 6 hp more than the Massey Ferguson 35. 3 cylinder Perkins. 152
Love the Perkins 👍