All very valid points to remember as the operator of the older tractors. Plus the "Safety Sally" out there can also point out no passengers of any kind on the tractor. No fenders to keep the operator from getting caught on the rear tires. No guards around the belt pulley. Just some to mention & a numorus amount of others not mentioned when it comes to tractor safety. Stay safe.
Very grateful for all the comments here that could probably save my life just being aware of all the different ways I could get killed it’s a matter fact that I’ve gotten into getting a tractor just from watching this channel but on the same channel I learned how to save my life or be careful but there’s always prayer to protect me I was a heavy equipment operator at one point but a tractor is a whole different animal from what I can see ,there’s so many ways to get hurt or die I’m almost at the point now where I hardly want to get on it unless it has a lot of safety features Number one I got to get fenders on there it came without fenders and I have some ordered number two is some kind of roll cage apparatus number three is get the brakes serviced the brakes are terrible coming off the trailer when I bought it I realize that the brakes were shit.God bless and protect us all .
Excellent points you made very clear. These are just like any vintage machine, they demand respect. If you don't respect what that machine can and cannot do, then you will likely get hurt or worse. None of us want to see someone get hurt, but you have to think about what your doing......boom!!!!
Learned early on to never hook your thumbs inside the steering wheel. Hitting an object with one front wheel can spin the steering wheel enough to bend your thumb in ways it was never meant to go. Good safety reminders
@@FarmallFanatic Reminds me of the old Massey Ferguson we had way back. Thumbs, arms, legs, the whole thing wanted to adjust my anatomy. Also, reminded of the gasoline and the battery. I know it was rough, but I'd rather be riding it now than one of these half-plastic jobs.
First thing I did was relocated the battery. An added fenders. I drilled out under seat and got where you have to unlock a padlock under seat to flip it back. Roll bar in works. I want to enjoy and use it as safely as possible.
For safety if falling off, install a ATV cut off switch. Very easy to install on old gas tractors like these . You have a lanyard attached to your wrist or belt. If you fall off the lanyard pulls a safety switch, shutting off the ignition and stopping the tractor immediately, so it will not run you over. Millions of ATV's and PWC's have these
Don't forget the PTO I seen a safety film and a dummy's clothing was wrapped by the working PTO. Wow! Even the simulation was Gruesome. I spent many a time riding on the draw bar while transporting and discing. When I was 12 working on my Uncle's farm I was given a very thorough safety briefing on the Farmall "M". He said " Hang on" And " Be careful." If you are interested in more Farm safety look up " Farm Safety for Kids" program.
@@FarmallFanatic I'll look forward to that video. As the founder of " Farm Safety for Kids " said about agriculture. " We are the only industry that Kills Our Own Children." It's a very Serious and often Overlooked topic. Safety is an ongoing issue that constantly needs to be addressed. Safety needs to be a part of our daily mindset. I've been hurt on the job and let me tell you. Its thankless and not worth me taking risks to make others, or myself a bit more money. We as individuals bring our Safety to work with us or we don't. It's that simple. Great video! Keep doing what you are doing. Best Wishes from Montana! M.H.
One more hazard. A friend of mine had a Ford tractor that we were using to drag trees to the house for firewood one winter (he's president of the procrastinator club). After we chained up a modest 12 inch tree trunk and started back to the house, the butt of the tree hit something and just plain stopped. In a split second the Ford pulled a wheelie. I was standing on the back and managed to hang on, and my friend was quick enough to stomp on the clutch before the Ford went all the way over, and crushed us both. In low gear those machines have more than enough torque to do a backflip. It was a sobering ride the rest of the way back to the house. When we got there I confess that I resigned my position and helper and left him to work (or die) alone. I didn't notice any kind of wheelie bars on your Farmall. A lot of owners build a welded steel ballast box on the back that is large enough to lift the rear wheels off the ground before the tractor can go all the way over. I'd definitely do bars or a box if I had one.
Don't forget rolling over backwards. Brother tried to pull a stuck truck with a 8n and it rolled over backwards and landed on him. Busted couple of ribs. Lots of torque is transmitted to the wheels.
my tractor is Fordson dexta I think of if not having R.O.P.S all the time as well that is a great point you are making. A lot of people that just start farming and didn't grow up on a farm have to be made aware vintage tractors can be dangerous I grew up on a farm and I was drilled by my dad. You have to be really careful
Thanks for the video . I have a super M and never thought about falling off the back I’ll definitely be holding the steering wheel with a grip . I have a 37 case sc I’m gonna restore over the winter . O and my M the battery is under the seat
True story: When I was a toddler my parents owned a small farm in SW IL. When my Dad was working in the fields he would come in for lunch, shut the tractor down and then leave it in gear and come in the house. He would often take me for a short ride around the field after lunch until I fell asleep and then drop me off at the house. On this particular day he had been pulling a disc. I finished my lunch before he did and left the table. A few minutes later he heard the tractor start. He ran out of the house and there I was (less than 6 years old) on the seat of a running tractor. He ran across the yard, jumped onto the disc, across the disc, climbed onto the tractor and stopped it. If he had slipped the disc would have killed him. If I had fallen off it would have killed me. That was more than sixty years ago. I was too young to remember it, but my mother watched from the front porch and told me the story when I was grown.
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the PTO shafts which run through a single stage clutch. A lot of old tractors, such as a 40 JD or a 601 Ford, had this arrangement. When bush-hogging, these tractors won't stop when you mash the clutch...the inertia of the blades keep driving the wheels until the blades stop turning! This has put many tractors in the ditch, or up against a tree!
Another thing to be careful of is the PTO shaft. Most tractors have a shield which helps, but some of the older ones do not, or someone has removed it for some reason. You get any clothing on a spinning PTO...good night nurse. Thanks for sharing!
I could think of many more dangers. #1 NEVER leave a tractor in gear #2 Road gear is road gear. Unless you have a smooth maintained roadway, don't use it. You cannot hold on that good. #3 Always lock the brakes before travelling in road gear #4 Never jerk a chain. #5 Respect the PTO. Entanglement is a big danger. #6 If tractor is equipped with a live PTO, shut it off before working on anything concerning the driveline. Live PTOs can creep or even take off. #7 Grab tightly on the steering wheel. Remember you have armstrong steering. If you hit a substantial obstruction with the front tire, It will come through to you. #8. Look forward when working. Erosion may in extreme circumstances pose a danger beware of fallen trees near a shelter belt. 9. On most tractors, and many old timers did it, but they operated the tractor standing up. The W-4, W-6 , and W-9 series tractors had a platform designed for standing up but you're only a few inches from the seat if you had to react. On a Farmall, it's a don't, and I don't recommend it on any of those tractors. Only operate from the seat. 10. Make sure your seat is in good repair, if it breaks, you will fall off.
An Army buddy taught me about the Three Points of Contact rule as we both are in our 60's and unsteady on our feet. Walking down stairs, keep a hand on the handrail! I practiced getting off my Ford 8N yesterday and Three Points of Contact is necessary or I'll hit the ground head first. Never JUMP off a tractor I learned that 50 years ago. You will break an ankle and you're out in the field all alone. It's a long crawl back to the house.
Nice video. My pap told me a story about how they rolled the case vac while loading dirt with it. My great grampa jumped off and didn’t get hurt they pulled the tractor back over and kept going.
I looked at several posts and no one mentioned “back turns” when ever you use an implement that brings a portion of that implement close to the back wheels like a side delivery rake any turn that increases the chance of the implement contacting the tires is a back turn. If you are Traveling fast enough and you turn hard enough into the implement the tires are Rotating forwards and can actually lift the implement onto yourself, especially without rops or fenders. Every time I’d head towards the H with the hay rake grandpa would holler “watch your back turns!”
WE. Me myself & I. prefer the trike front end. Mys is a 52 m.the only thing I done like about it .the front-end is too lite .& like you said scary on side Banks. I use mine for cropping and logging plenty of power. And thank you for the videos. Matt 52
I wouldn't take a wide front end in the woods for skidding in fact I know a few guys that have these tractors and they pretty much require narrow front ends makes it a lot easier
between rolling, running off while people tried to start them standing on the ground (not farmalls, all tractors), guys falling off of the axle on a ride along, standing on hitches, etc - everyone knows somebody who got themselves in trouble if not killed. Dad fell off an old oliver and lucky for him, in soft mud, the wagon pulling him ran him over and caused him to poop his pants, but no permanent damage. Another one years before (again, luckily in soft dirt) ran over his brother's head and ripped his ear off. Both of them were riding along on the tractor when they shouldn't have been, bumped off and the wagon went over them before anyone noticed anything.
I’ve owned around 4 dozen of these and other Farmalls. I used them for produce farming, cultivating, pulling wagons, plowing, disc, springtooth etc. one needs to be careful and no horse assing around and you’ll be fine! Side hill plowing is dangerous as hell! Had a neighbor roll one years back! Love working on em! They’re damn good tractors!
Sad to say I remember years ago when one of the farmers around had a round bale in his bucket and it rolled back over him, damn near cut him in half from the seat to. It never suprises me what can happen when you are not paying attention to what you are doing
I operated a farmall when I was ten plus never had a problem because I was told what you can do and what you can't do and never had a problem. I think it is more common seance and i was taught that but yes I can see if your put some one on that type of tractor with no instructions or training things could happen.
When reading the tractor you need to link the brake pedals lest you happen to press only one. Differential braking is made for lower speeds in the field. Also the tractor can be flipped backwards.
When I was a teenager, I had some Farmall adventures. Just for fun once, I unhooked spark plugs one at a time to see if it would still run, got down to just one cylinder and it kept running, but I never tried to move it that way. Once when pulling a large water tank, the bank I was near fell in, stopped the water tank, and the tractor popped a wheely!....I don't know why it didn't throw me off...One other time I was moving the tractor forward pulling a spray rig, accidentally bumped the off switch with my foot, saw what happened and pulled the switch back on (engine still turning) and BANG!!! the muffler blew wide open, sounded like a hot rod until it was fixed!!!....I never thought that the equipment was trying to kill me. Those were still good old days!!!....60's on the farm as a kid!!!!
Some good pointers. However, the fuel tank is not a fire hazard as long as it is not leaking, and especially not if it is full. The spark could only ignite what it can reach.
I was wondering why do U.S. old Trafford not have mudgards (fenders) as the driver is sitting between two fast moving wheels ? In the UK home I have seen any make of old tractor doing this .keep up the good work love your videos . 😀
Hey don’t forget rearing up and flipping backwards, daddy always said not to put a pole in front of rear wheels to get unstuck cause the wheels can seize and the tractor rotates upward very fast
Another antique tractor safety tip Always be aware of your head height backing up I once got pinned to my steering wheel on my farmall m and a goose neck trailer. I was luck my foot didnt slip off the clutch and was able to get it in forward and out of the way. Just giving this info to help keep people aware of the hazards.
#5 was why I learned to hit both the foot clutch and thrown the range selector into neutral on our Allis Chalmers tractors (a D17 and some 100 series models - none had ROPS but all were wide front.) Learned it after a front outside wheel bearing went bad. I saw the front wheel wobble and hit the foot clutch and brakes but the Hesston hay mower pushed it long enough the wheel came off the axle.
Back about 20 years ago I ran a 1950 Farmall H and one of the first things I did was to add an "over run coupler" to the PTO. I never got pushed by the equipment after that. Best piece of equipment I ever had!
Howdy man! I can think of two people who got killed on a row crop tractor. Safety wasn’t a big thing back in the day. That’s why the old guys were missing fingers and hands. Thanks for the video.
Your discharge is caused by the points in you distributer. When you shut the tractor off and the engine stopped the points we're off the lobe (shut) and they were drawing power. This is why you were reading discharge on your amp gauge before you started the engine. It's nothing to be alarmed about as long as you don’t leave the switch on to long before starting. To long on with them shut like that and the contacts will burn and the points will be ruined. I have fixed a lot of people's tractors that have left there switches on and melted the points down.
Great video on the 3 points of danger! lets add a few more and this goes with all old tractors with hand crank starts,learn how to use the crank you don't just whip it around you could get hurt I see people doing this all the time and it could hurt someone. one of the biggest dangers of any tractor new or old is the pto shaft a lot of people hurt and killed by the pto ever more than a roll over the first thing the old times did was take the pto guards off the equipment. If your using your pto and have to get off the tractor>> do not get off and let the pto running no matter what! make sure if i its in use keep a eye open for others getting to close. Also just to be safe always put the brakes on no matter what. I'm not a safety sally a lot of new people are getting into tractor restoration if any of this will help just one person it's worth it!
When I was a kid, a farmer neighbor stepped off his IH C with the PTO running driving a cotton picker. The PTO snagged the leg of his overalls. Lucky for him the overalls were old and heavily worn. The PTO snatched him naked and he had to walk up to a neighbor's house to borrow some pants.
Our M's and Super M's all have narrow front ends with twin tires.The single tire on the front was good for stripping cotton with the 21 or 22 stripper.Good for planting cotton and cultivating. My rear wheels are set out for row cropping gives a little wider foot print.My tractors still have the old pan seats,your seat looks a lot more comfortable. Also the propane tanks are 40 gallons ,you can run a long time on a tank out here in rural west Texas.The tanks were manufactured in Lubbock Texas.To us they look factory because propane was cheap and plentiful.
Yeh the ford n's which just fergusons were to light in the front and were known to lift the front wheels up and back flip. As for your battery box I'd just make a box /platform on the side of the tractor which ever side suits to keep the battery in the later models of that style of tractor had the battery box under the seat which works ok to
Your warning a few weeks ago about bush hogging blades causing the tractor to keep moving after turning off the pto was a good example of extreme danger.
HAD a good friend who was just 10 days past his 14th birthday when he flipped either an A or H John Deere tricycle front enf got to close to a ditch either he was going too fast or just not paying attention that was in Sepy of 1960 REST IN PEACE BUDDY WRAY
You are so right. Those battery boxes are kinda dangerous even with the steel lid. The owners manual has good safety warnings in it. I urge anyone to find an owners manual and read it. Or Boom!
Good tractor safety review man thanks for the public service message on old iron. Here in corn country there was a lot of claims made that the Deeres hand clutch were the #1 Killer of farmers here.. Guys would get off the tractor and use the clutch to inch back to whatever they were hooking to and many times got pined between tractor and implements
Not that it would be a great idea, but…..could you paint interior of battery box with the truck bed liner paint ( red if available) to reduce risk of arcing? Just a thought. On that same thought, current insulated safe tools are now being produced due to high voltage electric vehicles.
To be fair, while rollovers happened, I don't know if I'd call them "regular" occurrences. I did have an uncle who was ran over by a tractor and a guy I know that lost his arm in a combine. If you read the old manuals, they detail the danger areas. It's all about center of mass. Imagine that where each of the tires touch the ground you draw a triangle around the tractor (or on a wide front, where the pivot for the front axle is). And from the center of mass (often right around where the center of the crank would be unless you have loaded tires) you hang a plum bob. If that plum bob comes outside of the box the tractor will roll. Add to that momentum and turning where you can swing that imaginary plumb bob outside the box much easier. That's why loaders, particular on NFEs are dangerous when the load is high. Like you say, everything on a farm can kill you, but nothing should be senselessly feared. None of our tractors have ROPS (though we do have a loader with a cage) and we farm with them. Not against ROPS, but in today's safety culture fear is often exaggerated. While I've not personally known anyone killed in a rollover (plenty of reports however), I have known of PTO incidents, nearly getting caught myself before. Loose clothing is more of a danger than a lack of ROPS in a farm operation in my opinion. That said, the cage on our loader saved my life one time when a tree we were skidding flipped over and came down on me. If I didn't have a full cage it most likely would have killed me. It happened in seconds and there was no time to do anything. Same thing would apply to a rollover. Things like that happen fast so plan what you are doing so you don't get into the situation and maintain your equipment.
One thing any equipment operator needs to remember is your chain is only as strong as your weakest link. Nothing like having a chain break and having it come flying at you.
I learned to drive on a Farmall M over 50 yrs. ago & currently own a Farmall B, a 460 & a 560. All are used regularly mostly for firewood & property maintainence. After all the hours on the seats of these & other old tractors, I can say from experience they are only as dangerous as the person on the seat. I have thousands of hours driving tractors & I can' t remember ever driving one with a ROPS on it. I don't know of anyone tipping an old Farmall over, only these new narrow sub compacts, they're the dangerous ones!!
Lol it just isnt charging happens when the gen gets brush material in the gaps. It going backwards means it was discharging. The most dangerous thing I've had happen is boiling gas off the manifold because I overfilled the tank.
Some years ago a neighbor was pulling logs with I think a wd 45 and hooked a stump or something and it came over on him and crushed him. Another young guy I knew pushing paddles cleaning the drops in the barn and they think his foot slipped off the clutch and the tractor went over in the pit and crushed him.I had the front end of my H bobbin a few times!
I have a '38 H and have had to replace the intake/exhaust manifold twice because they crack and blow hot exhaust under the gas tank, literally boiling the gas in the tank.
The first video of yours I'de watched. I finally put a Swartz wide front on my 50 M. I've laid one tractor over 11 years ago and broke my leg. My M has a 300 Dual loader and I mainly move round bales and square bale with it. It rides from place to place alot smoother also. Great video! MB BAR RANCH
kubotas has there roll bars or cabs and seat belts on 100% all kubota tractors from there smallst T sries and GR to the M's wich why kubotas got quite a few of awards of saving lifes wich the deere company got into troubble after a 38 year old man got crushed under his 3220 deere tractor because they didnt put any roll bars or cab with seat belt wich the deere had to go to court because that wich the deere company had to pay out $15 million dollars the family afte r his accendent wich deeres denyed it wich thats why they have bad reputation
Very very good video. Everyone that has no experience with a old tractor need to watch this. My old john deere have a hand clutch and it was the number 1 killer on most farms. Anything old is a death trap. My old chevy you're farmall my john deere etc
You forgot about about hand starts kicking and breaking arms and sediment bulbs. My 45w Jd loader lives on my Jd 520 but i got it from a guy who had it on a Jd b and out raking hay with it and going to next field his sediment bulb broke and dumped a full tank of gas on the hot manifold and the tractor was a complete loss to him. Loader has some paint charred but undamaged
I think another hazard of antique tractors is when they don’t have rear fenders. Lots of farmers took the fenders off and never put them back on, making them more dangerous to drive.
Most tractors during that era came without fenders. Dealers offered them as an option, which the farmer felt was too high a cost back in the day. Money was real tight after WW II and the 50's weren't much better.
It's a bigger hazard with steel wheels. My great uncle got killed at the age of 16 because they removed the fenders off a tractor they were doing breaking with, a tree got caught between the lugs and went around and pinned him. That would have happened around 1930.
Never owned a Farmall but Allis Chalmers also put their battery underneath or next to the fuel tank. I have a rule that I never operate a piece of equipment that is leaking fuel. That goes for everything, tractor, truck, car and even lawn mower.
I've had old cars, trucks, and tractors pull that discharge stunt on me and most of the time it turned out the belt was slightly loose. A few times there was a point sticking in the voltage regulator. thank you.
when I was kid in the 50s the johndeere and the tractors could have gas leak on the ignition and start a fire. also the farmall a and cub had a gas cap venting problem that could cause pressure to build up in the gas tank and cause it to burst at the seam.
All very valid points to remember as the operator of the older tractors. Plus the "Safety Sally" out there can also point out no passengers of any kind on the tractor. No fenders to keep the operator from getting caught on the rear tires. No guards around the belt pulley. Just some to mention & a numorus amount of others not mentioned when it comes to tractor safety. Stay safe.
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Very grateful for all the comments here that could probably save my life just being aware of all the different ways I could get killed it’s a matter fact that I’ve gotten into getting a tractor just from watching this channel but on the same channel I learned how to save my life or be careful but there’s always prayer to protect me I was a heavy equipment operator at one point but a tractor is a whole different animal from what I can see ,there’s so many ways to get hurt or die I’m almost at the point now where I hardly want to get on it unless it has a lot of safety features Number one I got to get fenders on there it came without fenders and I have some ordered number two is some kind of roll cage apparatus number three is get the brakes serviced the brakes are terrible coming off the trailer when I bought it I realize that the brakes were shit.God bless and protect us all .
Excellent points you made very clear. These are just like any vintage machine, they demand respect. If you don't respect what that machine can and cannot do, then you will likely get hurt or worse. None of us want to see someone get hurt, but you have to think about what your doing......boom!!!!
No doubt
The seat pin is minimal I can see how it can be dangerous. Good points on tactor safty hoorah DD214...
Learned early on to never hook your thumbs inside the steering wheel. Hitting an object with one front wheel can spin the steering wheel enough to bend your thumb in ways it was never meant to go. Good safety reminders
Wide front you dont have to worry about that, but i remember what ur saying about the narrow front to be true
Also don't reach through the steering wheel to work the throttle.
@@FarmallFanatic Oh yes you do... Those aren't bad, but that can happen. I put a few hours on a WD-9 in the field and those sure can steer you.
@@FarmallFanatic Reminds me of the old Massey Ferguson we had way back. Thumbs, arms, legs, the whole thing wanted to adjust my anatomy. Also, reminded of the gasoline and the battery. I know it was rough, but I'd rather be riding it now than one of these half-plastic jobs.
First thing I did was relocated the battery. An added fenders. I drilled out under seat and got where you have to unlock a padlock under seat to flip it back. Roll bar in works. I want to enjoy and use it as safely as possible.
For safety if falling off, install a ATV cut off switch. Very easy to install on old gas tractors like these . You have a lanyard attached to your wrist or belt. If you fall off the lanyard pulls a safety switch, shutting off the ignition and stopping the tractor immediately, so it will not run you over.
Millions of ATV's and PWC's have these
Excellent idea
You forgot the the biggest hazard, antique tractors are extremely contagious and once you own one you can’t shake the sickness! 🤣🤣
Im there lol
And you always want more
Tell me about it. My dad and I are at around100 right now. I was raised with them.
I just caught the bug yesterday. Model g with 1 front tire
Don't forget the PTO
I seen a safety film and a dummy's clothing was wrapped by the working PTO. Wow! Even the simulation was Gruesome.
I spent many a time riding on the draw bar while transporting and discing.
When I was 12 working on my Uncle's farm I was given a very thorough safety briefing on the Farmall "M". He said " Hang on" And " Be careful."
If you are interested in more Farm safety look up " Farm Safety for Kids" program.
Yes...horrifying. In tomorrow's video I talk a little bit about live pto
@@FarmallFanatic I'll look forward to that video. As the founder of " Farm Safety for Kids " said about agriculture. " We are the only industry that Kills Our Own Children."
It's a very Serious and often Overlooked topic. Safety is an ongoing issue that constantly needs to be addressed. Safety needs to be a part of our daily mindset. I've been hurt on the job and let me tell you. Its thankless and not worth me taking risks to make others, or myself a bit more money. We as individuals bring our Safety to work with us or we don't. It's that simple.
Great video! Keep doing what you are doing. Best Wishes from Montana! M.H.
Thank you!
One more hazard. A friend of mine had a Ford tractor that we were using to drag trees to the house for firewood one winter (he's president of the procrastinator club). After we chained up a modest 12 inch tree trunk and started back to the house, the butt of the tree hit something and just plain stopped. In a split second the Ford pulled a wheelie. I was standing on the back and managed to hang on, and my friend was quick enough to stomp on the clutch before the Ford went all the way over, and crushed us both. In low gear those machines have more than enough torque to do a backflip. It was a sobering ride the rest of the way back to the house. When we got there I confess that I resigned my position and helper and left him to work (or die) alone. I didn't notice any kind of wheelie bars on your Farmall. A lot of owners build a welded steel ballast box on the back that is large enough to lift the rear wheels off the ground before the tractor can go all the way over. I'd definitely do bars or a box if I had one.
I should put ssome on my tractors
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My grandpa was also always talking about no fenders and the belt pulley that caused problems. Good video for safety.
This will have fenders soon
I saw a JD model b where the guy made the back seat taller to hold him in. Looked weird but probably wasn't a bad idea.
Interesting
Don't forget rolling over backwards. Brother tried to pull a stuck truck with a 8n and it rolled over backwards and landed on him. Busted couple of ribs. Lots of torque is transmitted to the wheels.
Those tractors were notorious for that
my tractor is Fordson dexta I think of if not having R.O.P.S all the time as well that is a great point you are making. A lot of people that just start farming and didn't grow up on a farm have to be made aware vintage tractors can be dangerous I grew up on a farm and I was drilled by my dad. You have to be really careful
Thanks for the video . I have a super M and never thought about falling off the back I’ll definitely be holding the steering wheel with a grip . I have a 37 case sc I’m gonna restore over the winter . O and my M the battery is under the seat
I white knuckle lol
True story: When I was a toddler my parents owned a small farm in SW IL. When my Dad was working in the fields he would come in for lunch, shut the tractor down and then leave it in gear and come in the house. He would often take me for a short ride around the field after lunch until I fell asleep and then drop me off at the house. On this particular day he had been pulling a disc. I finished my lunch before he did and left the table. A few minutes later he heard the tractor start. He ran out of the house and there I was (less than 6 years old) on the seat of a running tractor. He ran across the yard, jumped onto the disc, across the disc, climbed onto the tractor and stopped it. If he had slipped the disc would have killed him. If I had fallen off it would have killed me. That was more than sixty years ago. I was too young to remember it, but my mother watched from the front porch and told me the story when I was grown.
I always love watching you show us just what your Farmall's are capable of. Another great ride with you. 🚜
Not having fenders is a BIG issue that I see! Our Minne Mo and Ford AA both came with rear fenders. Couldn't imagine it without them!
I agree
Good video brother. Love seeing this old tractor get it done. 👍
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the PTO shafts which run through a single stage clutch. A lot of old tractors, such as a 40 JD or a 601 Ford, had this arrangement. When bush-hogging, these tractors won't stop when you mash the clutch...the inertia of the blades keep driving the wheels until the blades stop turning! This has put many tractors in the ditch, or up against a tree!
On this particular tractor I actually have life PTO... Because I have the M and W hand clutch, but yes you are 100% correct.
Another thing to be careful of is the PTO shaft. Most tractors have a shield which helps, but some of the older ones do not, or someone has removed it for some reason. You get any clothing on a spinning PTO...good night nurse. Thanks for sharing!
I can't even imagine 😯
deere company got in serious troubble for no roll bars or cabs with seat belts on there little tractors
My late Uncle's Super H had the battery under the seat--
Yea great upgrade
the tractor sounded great. Great points to keep in mind, always have to be paying attention when working on machinery.
I could think of many more dangers.
#1 NEVER leave a tractor in gear
#2 Road gear is road gear. Unless you have a smooth maintained roadway, don't use it. You cannot hold on that good.
#3 Always lock the brakes before travelling in road gear
#4 Never jerk a chain.
#5 Respect the PTO. Entanglement is a big danger.
#6 If tractor is equipped with a live PTO, shut it off before working on anything concerning the driveline. Live PTOs can creep or even take off.
#7 Grab tightly on the steering wheel. Remember you have armstrong steering. If you hit a substantial obstruction with the front tire, It will come through to you.
#8. Look forward when working. Erosion may in extreme circumstances pose a danger beware of fallen trees near a shelter belt.
9. On most tractors, and many old timers did it, but they operated the tractor standing up. The W-4, W-6 , and W-9 series tractors had a platform designed for standing up but you're only a few inches from the seat if you had to react. On a Farmall, it's a don't, and I don't recommend it on any of those tractors. Only operate from the seat.
10. Make sure your seat is in good repair, if it breaks, you will fall off.
I’ve had my wires crossed before...... but not on my tractor!!!😂😅
kubotas even puts there roll over and seat belt protection even on all there tractors even there riding mowers like the GR,t series
Phil should be coming out soon.
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An Army buddy taught me about the Three Points of Contact rule as we both are in our 60's and unsteady on our feet. Walking down stairs, keep a hand on the handrail! I practiced getting off my Ford 8N yesterday and Three Points of Contact is necessary or I'll hit the ground head first. Never JUMP off a tractor I learned that 50 years ago. You will break an ankle and you're out in the field all alone. It's a long crawl back to the house.
Damn right....thanks for watching!
yup
Nice video. My pap told me a story about how they rolled the case vac while loading dirt with it. My great grampa jumped off and didn’t get hurt they pulled the tractor back over and kept going.
I looked at several posts and no one mentioned “back turns” when ever you use an implement that brings a portion of that implement close to the back wheels like a side delivery rake any turn that increases the chance of the implement contacting the tires is a back turn. If you are
Traveling fast enough and you turn hard enough into the implement the tires are
Rotating forwards and can actually lift the implement onto yourself, especially without rops or fenders. Every time I’d head towards the H with the hay rake grandpa would holler “watch your back turns!”
Absolutely
I'm currently working on a video about farm safety and watching this video made me think about the Tractors on the farm.
Will this video be for sale? I'd like to have a copy for my antique tractor club. (www.antiquefarms.org.) I & I Antique Tractor and Gas Engine Club
Great information
Good info on staying safe. 👍
Great video Farmall safety first!!!🍒👍
WE. Me myself & I. prefer the trike front end. Mys is a 52 m.the only thing I done like about it .the front-end is too lite .& like you said scary on side Banks. I use mine for cropping and logging plenty of power. And thank you for the videos. Matt 52
I wouldn't take a wide front end in the woods for skidding in fact I know a few guys that have these tractors and they pretty much require narrow front ends makes it a lot easier
between rolling, running off while people tried to start them standing on the ground (not farmalls, all tractors), guys falling off of the axle on a ride along, standing on hitches, etc - everyone knows somebody who got themselves in trouble if not killed.
Dad fell off an old oliver and lucky for him, in soft mud, the wagon pulling him ran him over and caused him to poop his pants, but no permanent damage. Another one years before (again, luckily in soft dirt) ran over his brother's head and ripped his ear off. Both of them were riding along on the tractor when they shouldn't have been, bumped off and the wagon went over them before anyone noticed anything.
😯 wow
I’ve owned around 4 dozen of these and other Farmalls. I used them for produce farming, cultivating, pulling wagons, plowing, disc, springtooth etc. one needs to be careful and no horse assing around and you’ll be fine! Side hill plowing is dangerous as hell! Had a neighbor roll one years back! Love working on em! They’re damn good tractors!
Sad to say I remember years ago when one of the farmers around had a round bale in his bucket and it rolled back over him, damn near cut him in half from the seat to. It never suprises me what can happen when you are not paying attention to what you are doing
It's always good to have a little reminder of risks to improve your safety. Those are all good points everyone should keep in mind.
I operated a farmall when I was ten plus never had a problem because I was told what you can do and what you can't do and never had a problem.
I think it is more common seance and i was taught that but yes I can see if your put some one on that type of tractor with no instructions or training things could happen.
When reading the tractor you need to link the brake pedals lest you happen to press only one. Differential braking is made for lower speeds in the field.
Also the tractor can be flipped backwards.
When I was a teenager, I had some Farmall adventures. Just for fun once, I unhooked spark plugs one at a time to see if it would still run, got down to just one cylinder and it kept running, but I never tried to move it that way. Once when pulling a large water tank, the bank I was near fell in, stopped the water tank, and the tractor popped a wheely!....I don't know why it didn't throw me off...One other time I was moving the tractor forward pulling a spray rig, accidentally bumped the off switch with my foot, saw what happened and pulled the switch back on (engine still turning) and BANG!!! the muffler blew wide open, sounded like a hot rod until it was fixed!!!....I never thought that the equipment was trying to kill me. Those were still good old days!!!....60's on the farm as a kid!!!!
The reason for the gauge showing discharge is a malfunction of the voltage regulator. The points on the charge circuit are stuck closed.
Some good pointers. However, the fuel tank is not a fire hazard as long as it is not leaking, and especially not if it is full. The spark could only ignite what it can reach.
Vapors worry me
I was wondering why do U.S. old Trafford not have mudgards (fenders) as the driver is sitting between two fast moving wheels ? In the UK home I have seen any make of old tractor doing this .keep up the good work love your videos . 😀
Unfortunately fenders were an option
@@FarmallFanatic Thank you money vs safety ok .keep up the the good work .
Hey don’t forget rearing up and flipping backwards, daddy always said not to put a pole in front of rear wheels to get unstuck cause the wheels can seize and the tractor rotates upward very fast
I saw that happen. He used a couple of railroad ties and it killed him
@@FarmallFanatic damn then my dad knew what he was talking about
Another antique tractor safety tip
Always be aware of your head height backing up I once got pinned to my steering wheel on my farmall m and a goose neck trailer. I was luck my foot didnt slip off the clutch and was able to get it in forward and out of the way. Just giving this info to help keep people aware of the hazards.
4) PTO entaglement 5) Direct-couple PTO + attachment (i.e. - bush hog) which pushes tractor along even when clutch pedal is depressed
I've had that experience of running upon a ditch or other obstacle while using a bush hog. In fact while driving an M.
#5 was why I learned to hit both the foot clutch and thrown the range selector into neutral on our Allis Chalmers tractors (a D17 and some 100 series models - none had ROPS but all were wide front.) Learned it after a front outside wheel bearing went bad. I saw the front wheel wobble and hit the foot clutch and brakes but the Hesston hay mower pushed it long enough the wheel came off the axle.
Back about 20 years ago I ran a 1950 Farmall H and one of the first things I did was to add an "over run coupler" to the PTO. I never got pushed by the equipment after that. Best piece of equipment I ever had!
Don’t make sharp turns while in road gear ! Came close to rolling an H about 35 years ago , never forgot that feeling 🤢
Man you fly on these in road gear!
The discharge on the gauge is the voltage regulator is malfunctioning.
My son's think I may have my wires crossed on occasion 😄 I love spending time on the old tractors with you! 🤗💖
You with on all of it! The Farmall is running really good! Spring soon so you should be getting a lot of seat time! Have a good one!
Howdy man! I can think of two people who got killed on a row crop tractor. Safety wasn’t a big thing back in the day. That’s why the old guys were missing fingers and hands. Thanks for the video.
Yeah I can think of two as well. I can also think of one that survived
Good info brother! Makes you appreciate the modern safety measures more.
Rob
Always make sure the transmission is in neutral before you use the hand crank. I had an H follow me up on a porch once.
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That sounds interesting
@@lukebecker1959 lol
Lol wow that’s crazy thanks
Your discharge is caused by the points in you distributer. When you shut the tractor off and the engine stopped the points we're off the lobe (shut) and they were drawing power. This is why you were reading discharge on your amp gauge before you started the engine. It's nothing to be alarmed about as long as you don’t leave the switch on to long before starting. To long on with them shut like that and the contacts will burn and the points will be ruined. I have fixed a lot of people's tractors that have left there switches on and melted the points down.
Same applies to the elecktronicks Ignition. If you leave the switch on it will destroy the module.
Great video on the 3 points of danger! lets add a few more and this goes with all old tractors with hand crank starts,learn how to use the crank you don't just whip it around you could get hurt I see people doing this all the time and it could hurt someone. one of the biggest dangers of any tractor new or old is the pto shaft a lot of people hurt and killed by the pto ever more than a roll over the first thing the old times did was take the pto guards off the equipment. If your using your pto and have to get off the tractor>> do not get off and let the pto running no matter what! make sure if i its in use keep a eye open for others getting to close. Also just to be safe always put the brakes on no matter what. I'm not a safety sally a lot of new people are getting into tractor restoration if any of this will help just one person it's worth it!
Agree 👍
When I was a kid, a farmer neighbor stepped off his IH C with the PTO running driving a cotton picker. The PTO snagged the leg of his overalls. Lucky for him the overalls were old and heavily worn. The PTO snatched him naked and he had to walk up to a neighbor's house to borrow some pants.
@@CharlesWT-TX lucky
D series AC are very stable on slopes.
Somebody else said that too 👍
Got 2 narrow fronts never close to rolling knock on wood
Our M's and Super M's all have narrow front ends with twin tires.The single tire on the front was good for stripping cotton with the 21 or 22 stripper.Good for planting cotton and cultivating. My rear wheels are set out for row cropping gives a little wider foot print.My tractors still have the old pan seats,your seat looks a lot more comfortable. Also the propane tanks are 40 gallons ,you can run a long time on a tank out here in rural west Texas.The tanks were manufactured in Lubbock Texas.To us they look factory because propane was cheap and plentiful.
Yeh the ford n's which just fergusons were to light in the front and were known to lift the front wheels up and back flip. As for your battery box I'd just make a box /platform on the side of the tractor which ever side suits to keep the battery in the later models of that style of tractor had the battery box under the seat which works ok to
Yea, I think I'll do that...thanks for watching
@@FarmallFanatic no worries have u got a page on Facebook cause I could send you a photo how it's done
Check the voltage regulator.
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Very interesting presentation.
My 574 has done that before it was a ground issue on mine. If I remember correctly. I love my old iron. Have a good one
Love the sound of the M
I notice that you operate the M without the brakes lock engaged so both wheels don’t stop at the same time
Field work..it helps keep you straight
My amp guage does that at a low RPM until energized.
I had a badd wire
Your warning a few weeks ago about bush hogging blades causing the tractor to keep moving after turning off the pto was a good example of extreme danger.
There's just so many things
HAD a good friend who was just 10 days past his 14th birthday when he flipped either an A or H John Deere tricycle front enf got to close to a ditch either he was going too fast or just not paying attention that was in Sepy of 1960
REST IN PEACE BUDDY WRAY
You are so right. Those battery boxes are kinda dangerous even with the steel lid. The owners manual has good safety warnings in it. I urge anyone to find an owners manual and read it. Or Boom!
Did you get a gopro hero 8?
No
@@FarmallFanatic Ok I have a hero 5 and its pretty good. I just got a Sony rx100 2 on ebay it is the only point and shoot with a mic input.
Ok watching you on your Farmall M, is really making me want another one, I really liked my 706 it was a narrow front, turn in it's own tracks, 🚜
Narrow fronts are great for planting
Great video!! Something I was even thinking about yesterday working on our 460 farmall!t
Never get cocky with them
Farmall Fanatic I couldn’t agree more
Good tractor safety review man thanks for the public service message on old iron. Here in corn country there was a lot of claims made that the Deeres hand clutch were the #1 Killer of farmers here.. Guys would get off the tractor and use the clutch to inch back to whatever they were hooking to and many times got pined between tractor and implements
Horrifying
speaking of pulling logs, if the log snags a rock you can flip the tractor over backward. You could ask my great grandfather but he didn't survive.
Not that it would be a great idea, but…..could you paint interior of battery box with the truck bed liner paint ( red if available) to reduce risk of arcing? Just a thought.
On that same thought, current insulated safe tools are now being produced due to high voltage electric vehicles.
Yea you could
To be fair, while rollovers happened, I don't know if I'd call them "regular" occurrences. I did have an uncle who was ran over by a tractor and a guy I know that lost his arm in a combine. If you read the old manuals, they detail the danger areas. It's all about center of mass. Imagine that where each of the tires touch the ground you draw a triangle around the tractor (or on a wide front, where the pivot for the front axle is). And from the center of mass (often right around where the center of the crank would be unless you have loaded tires) you hang a plum bob. If that plum bob comes outside of the box the tractor will roll. Add to that momentum and turning where you can swing that imaginary plumb bob outside the box much easier. That's why loaders, particular on NFEs are dangerous when the load is high. Like you say, everything on a farm can kill you, but nothing should be senselessly feared. None of our tractors have ROPS (though we do have a loader with a cage) and we farm with them. Not against ROPS, but in today's safety culture fear is often exaggerated. While I've not personally known anyone killed in a rollover (plenty of reports however), I have known of PTO incidents, nearly getting caught myself before. Loose clothing is more of a danger than a lack of ROPS in a farm operation in my opinion.
That said, the cage on our loader saved my life one time when a tree we were skidding flipped over and came down on me. If I didn't have a full cage it most likely would have killed me. It happened in seconds and there was no time to do anything. Same thing would apply to a rollover. Things like that happen fast so plan what you are doing so you don't get into the situation and maintain your equipment.
Great info bud ! Be safe ! Thanks for sharing
One thing any equipment operator needs to remember is your chain is only as strong as your weakest link. Nothing like having a chain break and having it come flying at you.
I think about that a lot
I learned to drive on a Farmall M over 50 yrs. ago & currently own a Farmall B, a 460 & a 560. All are used regularly mostly for firewood & property maintainence. After all the hours on the seats of these & other old tractors, I can say from experience they are only as dangerous as the person on the seat. I have thousands of hours driving tractors & I can' t remember ever driving one with a ROPS on it. I don't know of anyone tipping an old Farmall over, only these new narrow sub compacts, they're the dangerous ones!!
Lol it just isnt charging happens when the gen gets brush material in the gaps. It going backwards means it was discharging. The most dangerous thing I've had happen is boiling gas off the manifold because I overfilled the tank.
I worked on a farm all my teens. People dont realize how dangerous it can be!
Some years ago a neighbor was pulling logs with I think a wd 45 and hooked a stump or something and it came over on him and crushed him. Another young guy I knew pushing paddles cleaning the drops in the barn and they think his foot slipped off the clutch and the tractor went over in the pit and crushed him.I had the front end of my H bobbin a few times!
Tons of horror stories
My grandfather told me that the tractor all ready has a nut holding the steering wheel on it doesn't need a second one 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have a '38 H and have had to replace the intake/exhaust manifold twice because they crack and blow hot exhaust under the gas tank, literally boiling the gas in the tank.
Yeah completely not good
You are so right.
The first video of yours I'de watched.
I finally put a Swartz wide front on my 50 M. I've laid one tractor over 11 years ago and broke my leg. My M has a 300 Dual loader and I mainly move round bales and square bale with it. It rides from place to place alot smoother also.
Great video!
MB BAR RANCH
Not saying I'll never own a narrow front, but when given a choice...wide
I think the lack of fenders would be another safety hazard. I wonder if your amp gauge is on its way out... It was a nice day out today!
Fenders crossed my mind. That gauge is pretty old...very nice!
kubotas has there roll bars or cabs and seat belts on 100% all kubota tractors from there smallst T sries and GR to the M's wich why kubotas got quite a few of awards of saving lifes wich the deere company got into troubble after a 38 year old man got crushed under his 3220 deere tractor because they didnt put any roll bars or cab with seat belt wich the deere had to go to court because that wich the deere company had to pay out $15 million dollars the family afte r his accendent wich deeres denyed it wich thats why they have bad reputation
Very very good video. Everyone that has no experience with a old tractor need to watch this. My old john deere have a hand clutch and it was the number 1 killer on most farms. Anything old is a death trap. My old chevy you're farmall my john deere etc
Agree
You forgot about about hand starts kicking and breaking arms and sediment bulbs. My 45w Jd loader lives on my Jd 520 but i got it from a guy who had it on a Jd b and out raking hay with it and going to next field his sediment bulb broke and dumped a full tank of gas on the hot manifold and the tractor was a complete loss to him. Loader has some paint charred but undamaged
yeah sure, the bulb is no where NEAR the manifold.
@@CheeseMiser yeah it is maybe not some
@@tractorboy31 look at an allis wc or any NON john deere.
I think another hazard of antique tractors is when they don’t have rear fenders. Lots of farmers took the fenders off and never put them back on, making them more dangerous to drive.
Most tractors during that era came without fenders. Dealers offered them as an option, which the farmer felt was too high a cost back in the day. Money was real tight after WW II and the 50's weren't much better.
Mike Bondzin Oh, ok I didn’t know they were an option from the factory. I just thought they came with the tractor. Learn something new everyday.
It's a bigger hazard with steel wheels. My great uncle got killed at the age of 16 because they removed the fenders off a tractor they were doing breaking with, a tree got caught between the lugs and went around and pinned him. That would have happened around 1930.
Fenders or lack there of. ;)
Never owned a Farmall but Allis Chalmers also put their battery underneath or next to the fuel tank. I have a rule that I never operate a piece of equipment that is leaking fuel. That goes for everything, tractor, truck, car and even lawn mower.
Same here
Definitely true. Now it makes me have to think more that now i am in tractor rides.
I've had old cars, trucks, and tractors pull that discharge stunt on me and most of the time it turned out the belt was slightly loose. A few times there was a point sticking in the voltage regulator. thank you.
Loose belt is exactly what it was 👍
when I was kid in the 50s the johndeere and the tractors could have gas leak on the ignition and start a fire. also the farmall a and cub had a gas cap venting problem that could cause pressure to build up in the gas tank and cause it to burst at the seam.
Great video, I cannot wait to get to the next spot and start working with the tractor. Getter done battle.
Hell yea
This a great thing to be reminded of.
Guys who ride thru fields with batteries not connected or the box not fastened down will experience things to talk about next video.
Oh ok
That sure is a neat antique tractor. 😉