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Best guilloche dial-maker? Kari Voutilainen Vingt-8 Watch Review | Swiss Watch Gang

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  • čas přidán 9. 12. 2019
  • Details, details and more details - hands on with the GPHG Award Winner Kari Voutilainen Vingt-8 "Chocolate". Today I'm reviewing a pre-owned model by Kari Voutilainen I got from my friends at Esperluxe. The model features a 3-part in-house made hand made guilloche dial, beautiful 18ct rose gold case with tear-drop lugs and a movement with exquisite finishing.
    Price of this pre-owned model reviewed in the video (10.12.2019) USD 77'000.-
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Komentáře • 126

  • @SwissWatchGang
    @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety +25

    Are you a fan of guilloche (engine turned)?

  • @alvinkoh5556
    @alvinkoh5556 Před 3 lety +4

    I am speechless. Such a handsome piece! And the packaging is so sophisticated, it makes me feel like a samurai performing HARAKIRI!

  • @ChanceFavors310
    @ChanceFavors310 Před 3 lety +4

    Kari is a master. I will own one of his pieces one day

  • @EsperLuxe
    @EsperLuxe Před 4 lety +16

    A fantastic review! The best one so far for fans of the indies like us. It's truly an incredible watch by a master watchmaker. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and this piece Marko!

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety

      Thanik you for liking it and lending me the watch for review :)

  • @Kairosdex
    @Kairosdex Před 4 lety +8

    This might be the best looking dial I've ever seen!! Magnificent!

  • @Khanh.Nguyen369
    @Khanh.Nguyen369 Před 4 lety +5

    Man Kari is on another level. His work with MB&F is stunning.

  • @zevnikov
    @zevnikov Před 4 lety +2

    Marko vrhunsko to delaš. Bravo. Uživam v vsakem tvojem prispevku.

  • @traceyforster7501
    @traceyforster7501 Před 4 lety +6

    Love those Kari dials, I agree best engine turned dials hands down

  • @SamYuri
    @SamYuri Před 3 lety +1

    I try to watch ur old videos everytime I can and I have found this watch today piece of art whatever I say I won't give it what it deserve

  • @Joe-xo3xy
    @Joe-xo3xy Před 4 lety +1

    It's not easy what you do.
    Keep it going, always strive for improvement.
    I think your channel is growing in quality.
    The video was great, I actually have not seen anyone show case a Kari watch in this much detail before, honestly.
    Wish you all the best.

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety

      Hey, I really appreciate all the good vibes and nice comments! Doing my best to bring new watches on CZcams and show them in as much detail as I can. :) Glad you like it and thanks for stopping by! More to come :)

  • @watch202
    @watch202 Před 4 lety +2

    I do love the brand and there watches a lot , to own one would be a dream come true imho . This version is so so beautiful 😍. That rose gold and brown dial is stunning. Another amazing review and such a joy to watch my friend 🤗.
    I see your bringing another grail to the table next time 😱. Can’t wait to see that RG LO 👌🏻😍

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety

      100% Agree! :) Yes next review will be one of my grail watches as well! :)

  • @alexg.1485
    @alexg.1485 Před 4 lety +3

    Great video! Keep them nice watches comming.
    I love guilloche dials. First time I saw one was on my grandfathers Breguet when I was about 9 Years old.
    Now I make custom watches. And I want to learn how to use a rose engine lathe so I can make these amazing decorations on dials and on movements. But it will take me at least a few years to make something close to a Voutilainen dial xD.

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety +1

      Hey Alex, thank you for the kind words! Well Breguet and Guilloche is a great way to start. 😁 Hope u succeed and show us what u created down the line. 👍😊

  • @richardteevan4480
    @richardteevan4480 Před 4 lety +1

    I have my engine turned, multiple patterned Salmon Vingt-8 on right now... My fav watch, a masterpiece. My fav watchmaker! thanks for the video! Enjoyed- Subscribed

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety +2

      Awesome! Salmon is always a winner! 👌👌 Happy you liked it and thank you for watching! 🙏

  • @ron925
    @ron925 Před 4 lety +2

    Amazing review mate! Kari his dials are to die for!

  • @kojiattwood
    @kojiattwood Před 4 lety +2

    I'm in love with the box, wow.

  • @juleswild9498
    @juleswild9498 Před 3 lety +1

    That rose gold chocolate dial combo man... easily my all time favourite Kari piece! A real dream. As for next times watch..I want to say Romain Gauthier for the seconds dial and exposed escapement but I can't identify the left part of the picture.

  • @xtr1092
    @xtr1092 Před 2 měsíci

    nice watch and a nice box love the engine turning

  • @yuvalmor7594
    @yuvalmor7594 Před 4 lety +1

    Really loved the vid! You improved a lot at the shots and the overall organizaition of the video🔥
    Keep it up bro💪

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you! Yes, I am always listening to feedback and try to implement as much as I can :)

  • @richardr8753
    @richardr8753 Před 3 lety

    The rose gold with brown dial is a beautiful combination. I have the same watch with blue dial and white gold case. It came in the same ebony case you showed. I loved your presentation of the watch. Your passion comes pouring through.

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 3 lety

      Awesome to hear that Richard! Blue dial and white gold sounds fantastic!

  • @dxmwatch
    @dxmwatch Před 4 lety +1

    My Grail! Love the details of Case, Dial, Movement!

  • @watchnerds
    @watchnerds Před 4 lety +1

    One more great review from you, Marco! Great work!
    And that piece does suit your blazer well, how long does it take for you to pick up the clothes that fit with that watch? Haha.
    For the escapement, you mean it got two escape wheel, which both driven by the fourth wheel, which function to have more direct impulse from the mainspring to the balance spring without losing much energy caused by the drag and friction in the Swiss lever escapement. It also got less of a surface point which effectively need no lubrication in the escapement thus prolong the life of the escapement itself. It's called natural escapement (échappement naturel).
    Escapement is the region of which the energy from the mainspring is released (hence the name) into the counting/regulator region of the watch, in which the part of the escapement in general includes escape wheel(its pinion is not), the pallet fork and finally the roller on the balance wheel.
    Overall, very fine watch! 😄
    Next one would be Romain Gauthier Logical One isn't it?

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety

      Hey Jeviar. So regarding outfits, I just choose whatever I see fit and sometimes it happens to work. Regarding the escapement, very well said! It's more complicated than your usual escapement that's why I also linked it up in the description for the viewers to research upon.
      Regarding the next watch, my grail RG is coming up yes :)

  • @watchesandart2868
    @watchesandart2868 Před 4 lety +1

    Marko, after Corona ends we need to meet again my friend. Wonderful review. Loving it.

  • @bigblue7091
    @bigblue7091 Před 4 lety +2

    Put so Eloquently Marko , I always leave this Channel like I've just Purchased this Item from you & that's a Compliment". . 😎

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety +1

      haha thanks! I appreciate you being always here to watch it and giving me your precious time!

  • @ewhyte8059
    @ewhyte8059 Před 4 lety +5

    Safe to say Kari is not a master watchmaker.
    Clearly a Grandmaster.

  • @Sur-Ron
    @Sur-Ron Před rokem

    Beautiful watch! Those hands are amazing!

  • @bushcraftsurvivaljackonly7319

    The design and the colour contrast is really nice!!

  • @enjOi47
    @enjOi47 Před 4 lety +2

    amazing content! keep it going man :)

  • @juniortoledo8088
    @juniortoledo8088 Před rokem

    Beautiful watch

  • @andrejtajhman3054
    @andrejtajhman3054 Před 4 lety +3

    Another great specimen amaizing....great presentation..DO are these watches all yours or how do you do this reviews
    VESELE BOZICNE IN NOVOLETNE PRAZNIKE....PA PO PAMETI

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety +1

      Hi, thank you! Some are mine and other people I know are generous to lend them to me for a review. Depends on which one. Tudi tebi!

  • @dgb6355
    @dgb6355 Před 4 lety +1

    Beautiful watch, the guilloche is particularly well made. Not sure where this stands compare to Breguet who is known for the Guilloché Dial.
    It would be great if you could mention the price range.
    Thanks for sharing.

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety

      Well said! Well Breguet has much less hand finishing, different escapement and more industrialised approach.

  • @jwt1035
    @jwt1035 Před 2 lety

    Absolutely stunning.

  • @adolf-8834
    @adolf-8834 Před 3 lety +1

    Yes, the best.
    Strives to make everything in house, too.

  • @eugenejohnson7755
    @eugenejohnson7755 Před 2 lety

    Beautiful watch!

  • @connorwang3442
    @connorwang3442 Před 3 lety +1

    I m re watching this video. I wonder what is the cost to this beautiful watch? In fact I m currently looking to purchase my first high end timepiece and has narrowed to either FP Journe or Grönefeld. I had a 2nd thought after re watching this video. I m keen to hear your opinion Marko. Thank you

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 3 lety +1

      Well you can´t go wrong with either of them. Personally I´d go with Grönefeld because I like their movement decoration and design but each brand that you mentioned has it´s charm. I advise you to go see them all in person and really it also depends on your budget/spending power. This Kari Voutilainen watch was sold as EsperLuxe for I think around 70k USD when the video went live. Here:www.esperluxe.com/shop-online/voutilainen-watches-vingt-8-chocolate

  • @1115asmara
    @1115asmara Před 3 lety

    I like the fact that he uses the Roman numerals correctly. Such as the number IV instead of IIII.

  • @petersampson5202
    @petersampson5202 Před 4 lety +2

    Its beautiful Marco.

  • @golfinguru11
    @golfinguru11 Před 2 lety

    If I had to choose I’d take complications over finishing/hand made but if you can afford both then go for it. Still, nearly 100k for a time-only watch is hard to stomach.

  • @seunbejide4475
    @seunbejide4475 Před 4 lety +1

    Love your content. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

  • @JA-oi4vj
    @JA-oi4vj Před 10 měsíci

    Nice looking watches, and I used to own one, but I feel like I never resonated with it. It felt unsubstantial on the wrist. Quality is great and it should be for the price (time only for 100k USD), but just didn't do it for me. I bought a gronefeld remontoire instead and love everything about it.

  • @johnryan1386
    @johnryan1386 Před 4 lety +1

    The mainplate has perlage, the bridges have cotes de geneve

  • @niklasyu5804
    @niklasyu5804 Před 2 lety

    I want one

  • @Michel-7.7.7
    @Michel-7.7.7 Před rokem

    The Box seem to be a little oversized, a ½ meter long pocket cupboard is quite something

  • @ThCam
    @ThCam Před 4 lety +1

    Beautiful timepiece and don't worry about your French pronunciation it was quite good! Next up R. Gauthier Logical one!

  • @RedwoodGuitarLessonsandReviews

    I thought Jochen Benzinger did his custom dials.

  • @finkejak
    @finkejak Před 4 lety +1

    Damn, that is beautiful...
    How much does one have to pay to become a proud owner of one of those?

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety

      Absolutely, agree 100%.
      It is for sale here www.esperluxe.com/shop-online/voutilainen-watches-vingt-8-chocolate

  • @microbakery9085
    @microbakery9085 Před 3 lety

    Wondering who’s better if compared to Breguet at same price range

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 3 lety +1

      Voutilainen

    • @microbakery9085
      @microbakery9085 Před 3 lety

      Thank you for the reply. Would you state the top 3 reasons why?

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 3 lety +3

      @@microbakery9085 In my opinion better hand finishing, more unique so smaller production numbers and Breguet I think compared to these independents lost it's touch or "why" in the process of the Swatch Group. I'd buy a Breguet tourb or old chrono but the new models and pricing they have just can't compete with independent watchmakers. But as always at the end of the day buy what makes you happy. :)

  • @vincentchampion8986
    @vincentchampion8986 Před 3 lety

    How does it compare to Benzinger?

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 3 lety +2

      It doesn't in my opinion. The Kari Voutilainen is superior in finishing and in-house engineering...

  • @YAYAIL12
    @YAYAIL12 Před 3 lety

    Amazing 🤩

  • @syedayyazhussain8766
    @syedayyazhussain8766 Před 4 lety +1

    Hello sir beautiful awesome awesome watch pls tell me price

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety

      Hello sir. It is for sale on www.esperluxe.com 👌

  • @swatantrachakraborty6004

    Please do a jaquet droz review

  • @bobalexander9869
    @bobalexander9869 Před 2 lety

    great watch- lugs are hamilton of the 50's-- Marko I will email post our w&w meeting at food area - stay safe

  • @varunu4176
    @varunu4176 Před 4 lety

    I request for a video on Breguet 7097BB.

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety

      Something similar is already on the channel: czcams.com/video/3oJH18zpw3o/video.html

    • @varunu4176
      @varunu4176 Před 4 lety +1

      @@SwissWatchGang I just checked, on it. Thank You :)

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety +1

      🙏

  • @gs2162
    @gs2162 Před rokem

    Nearly perfect but I find myself scratching my head about the Roman numerals not adhering to the radial/circular relief line. It just doesn't look right. I am kind of flabbergasted that he would choose to execute the Roman numerals in this way..

  • @deepakshrivastav3370
    @deepakshrivastav3370 Před 4 lety +1

    A video on 2 million dollars patek p.

  • @dahill0780
    @dahill0780 Před 3 lety

    Ironic theres a picture of one next to Marco.

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 3 lety +1

      That's a teaser photo for the next review which was a logical one by Romain Gauthier. 😁👌

  • @emonty62
    @emonty62 Před 4 lety +1

    the hand made in white is meh

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety

      Puts it on another level since "swiss made" isn't to Kari's standards.

    • @emonty62
      @emonty62 Před 4 lety +1

      @@SwissWatchGang yes, I understand, just it being white is meh :-)

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety +1

      @@emonty62 yes, I get what u mean. Would be nice in "gold" maybe or something more subtle. But I think the customer ordered all the specs like this.

  • @pootoori2637
    @pootoori2637 Před 2 lety

    400 likes looks better than 399. You're welcome.

  • @marketmakerstreet
    @marketmakerstreet Před 4 lety +1

    I highly doubt the dial motive is hand made... Yes it is hand-drawn on paper, but the dial is made by machine.

    • @SwissWatchGang
      @SwissWatchGang  Před 4 lety +2

      The guilloche machine is used by hand from the watchmaker and not programmed by a computer. That's what "hand-made" meant for this watch. Nobody makes guilloche literally by hand.

    • @richardteevan4480
      @richardteevan4480 Před 4 lety

      Engine Turned- means an old-world machine--no electric power the machine is hand-cranked, slowly to inscribe the pattern on the dial. it is an art, not a cnc machine nor stamped

  • @anandanil8158
    @anandanil8158 Před 2 lety

    i hate how the 8 does not curve