You can use the Epicenter with HipHop music. It depends on the bass frequencies of the bass line of each song. I’ve been using the Epicenter on my system for over 25 years and still have my original subwoofers. Key is, don’t raise the gains so high on the amps, and head unit. Great video!
Thanks for the video. I was wondering why my sundown amp & soundqubed sub was getting hot asf. I started thinking the other day it was the epicenter. Now you've confirmed what I've been experiencing.
I use mine on hip hop all day everyday and it sounds great. In my experiences you need a heavy duty sub that can take the added abuse and If your subs are entry or mid level the epicenter isn’t going to sound great and chances are you will burn up the coils trying to make them work past there mechanical limitations but if you have beefy subs like sundown, dc audio or in my case Fi audio it will perform best.
You just stated "subs that can take the "added" abuse" So already being abused? Subs aren't meant to take "Abuse!" Nothing you stated is factual. Coils are coils and will burn up with abuse...
I use mine on rap , hip hop I love it ! But I don’t turn the epicenter or my music to clipping either, it’s a great piece of equipment just know how to use it
I use mine on rap country reggaeton and reggae dancehall and it sounds good on some songs and i have no promblem with my subs jist my amp it gets r hot and i dont play my music really loud jist enough that i can listen to it
Mine didn’t sound good until I put an epicenter in my system. After there epicenter I got a dsp and wow!!. You have to know how to use the epicenter. Once you learn how it operates
Nice video and to the point. I'm sure lots of users fry their equipment with the Epicenter. I read that for rock music that even though you can turn the Epicenter knob all the way down the unit is still active and will introduce distortion and make the bass sound worse than not having it at all. Does this sound correct? Your video convinced me not to do an Epicenter install.
I have an epicenter I rarely use it. When I do I’m listening to old school music. I don’t know how you can listen to hip hop with it, it sounds horrible!
Understandable fo sho. But I have a few questions with the theory ( when it comes to epiccenter and rap music ) 1) if using aftermarket Android headunit the output rca voltage is around 2 two 4 volts. Wouldn't a epiccenter improve that voltage ? 2) On stock headunit, Wouldn't to epiccenter/line driver help with the bass row off ? I agree turning the nob down with Rap music on is wise and up with old school R&B/ Classic soul is best. Thanks
No epicenter is not for bass roll off. If using a factory radio wanna get only bass there audio control lc2i that has a bass roll off feature. There's also lc7i audio control. For a full system on stock radio gets you rca for mids and bass . There's also lcq1 then last a dsp.
Question: the epicenter uses pfm chips which are essentially subsonic filter chips. So does that mean i can set my mono amps ssf all the way to the left/lowest setting as the epicenter is already using a pfm/ssf chip
So let’s say you listen hip hop, reggaeton and corridos (Mexican Music) Do you have to constantly turn it on and off or is there a way to set it and forget it. What I mean is like having it tuned so that it only recovers bass in the corridos and it does nothing to hip hop and reggaeton while being on?
No. Accubass if to restore low bass roll-off from factory radios in cars. No need for accubass if you have an aftermarket radio. You can stack the accubass and epicenter with each other though. They serve different purposes
Thank you.. Steve Meade blocked me for telling him that when he got his 'special' one. lol well that and for referring to my pair of 18's in the mrk2 Gti 16v as 'twin 18s'. When you been using them as long as I have you tire of spitting out "a pair of 18's in a folded horn" over and over at IASCA events. Epicenters were designed for a purpose to fill in the blank where old studio recordings fell short. Never had customer's with true, full range systems like it once added on.. I started in 77 but finally ran into those by ~1985
This is what you get when you think you’re smarter than you really are. And by the way, there are cars with both superchargers and turbo’s being used together!
Yep! Bad analogy. Basically a fallacy argument. it is possible to combine a turbocharger and a supercharger in a setup known as 'twin-charging'. Utilizing both methods of forced induction can lead to significant power gains. That said, this is a complex engineering task and requires careful tuning to ensure the components work together effectively. Just like adding an Epicenter...
I dont believe you bro! You just dont want me to live loud 😮 and by the way my uncle has a drag truck that is low compression motor equipped with a turbo and a supercharger eith 150 shot of nos.
Call AC to verify my info. They were just at my store 2 weeks ago and I brought up this exact topic. Same shit as redlining your engine. The engine still works. The guy driving the car still thinks he isn’t doing anything wrong. But he is.
@@wiredkustomsmotorsports " The guy driving the car still thinks he isn’t doing anything wrong. But he is." Guess you have never heard of the V8 in the 458, the BMW S54 or the Honda B18C. Saying ignorant things like high rpms ruins an engine just hurts your credibility. Probably explains why you only have 2k subscribers.
Bad analogy. Basically a fallacy argument. It is possible to combine a turbocharger and a supercharger in a setup known as 'twin-charging'. Utilizing both methods of forced induction can lead to significant power gains. That said, this is a complex engineering task and requires careful tuning to ensure the components work together effectively. Just like the Epicenter. It works but you have to know what you're doing and pay attention as to when to use it.
As soon as he said it, I immediately said “ That’s not true” …... I have seen many turbo/Supercharged setups. I’m gonna say he’s not a gearhead and doesn’t know. Let’s give him a pass 😂
Appreciate the honesty. We need more people like this in the world. Not just looking to put money in his pocket
You can use the Epicenter with HipHop music. It depends on the bass frequencies of the bass line of each song. I’ve been using the Epicenter on my system for over 25 years and still have my original subwoofers. Key is, don’t raise the gains so high on the amps, and head unit. Great video!
Thanks for the video. I was wondering why my sundown amp & soundqubed sub was getting hot asf. I started thinking the other day it was the epicenter. Now you've confirmed what I've been experiencing.
Thank you for taking the time to share your experience. Several on this post don’t get it.
@@wiredkustomsmotorsports hey bro great video so when we listen to rap music, the bass knob should we have it turned all the way down?
@@wiredkustomsmotorsportslisten for the bass, if it already has low frequencies keep it off. If the song has no bass at all then use the epicenter
U mind making a video on how to properly setup a epicenter
Yeah, Please!
Thank you for this information
I use mine on hip hop all day everyday and it sounds great. In my experiences you need a heavy duty sub that can take the added abuse and If your subs are entry or mid level the epicenter isn’t going to sound great and chances are you will burn up the coils trying to make them work past there mechanical limitations but if you have beefy subs like sundown, dc audio or in my case Fi audio it will perform best.
Absolutely wrong.
😂yep just installed works great😂
No. This is not what the Epicenter is for.
You just stated "subs that can take the "added" abuse" So already being abused? Subs aren't meant to take "Abuse!" Nothing you stated is factual. Coils are coils and will burn up with abuse...
@@phoqueewe7230 instead of abuse I should have said added excursion brought on by low end response.
I use mine on rap , hip hop I love it ! But I don’t turn the epicenter or my music to clipping either, it’s a great piece of equipment just know how to use it
I agree. When used correctly. Problem is average client isn’t trained in this area.
I use mine on rap country reggaeton and reggae dancehall and it sounds good on some songs and i have no promblem with my subs jist my amp it gets r hot and i dont play my music really loud jist enough that i can listen to it
Mine didn’t sound good until I put an epicenter in my system. After there epicenter I got a dsp and wow!!. You have to know how to use the epicenter. Once you learn how it operates
No no no you can use it on old school rap music too not all but alot of them you can use it, plus RnB music back then
Nice video and to the point. I'm sure lots of users fry their equipment with the Epicenter. I read that for rock music that even though you can turn the Epicenter knob all the way down the unit is still active and will introduce distortion and make the bass sound worse than not having it at all. Does this sound correct? Your video convinced me not to do an Epicenter install.
I have an epicenter I rarely use it. When I do I’m listening to old school music. I don’t know how you can listen to hip hop with it, it sounds horrible!
Understandable fo sho. But I have a few questions with the theory ( when it comes to epiccenter and rap music ) 1) if using aftermarket Android headunit the output rca voltage is around 2 two 4 volts. Wouldn't a epiccenter improve that voltage ?
2) On stock headunit, Wouldn't to epiccenter/line driver help with the bass row off ?
I agree turning the nob down with Rap music on is wise and up with old school R&B/ Classic soul is best.
Thanks
No epicenter is not for bass roll off. If using a factory radio wanna get only bass there audio control lc2i that has a bass roll off feature. There's also lc7i audio control. For a full system on stock radio gets you rca for mids and bass . There's also lcq1 then last a dsp.
Question: the epicenter uses pfm chips which are essentially subsonic filter chips. So does that mean i can set my mono amps ssf all the way to the left/lowest setting as the epicenter is already using a pfm/ssf chip
It’s generally all the way down anyways on almost all builds.
@@wiredkustomsmotorsportsdo u mean its generally all the way down on most builds that use the epi or dont use it?
@@akuma4u subsonic is “generally” all the way Down in most all builds we do.
Can the epicenter be controlled with the bass remote it comes with and if it does can I use that remote with my amp's bass remote together?
You’ll use 2 knobs.
So let’s say you listen hip hop, reggaeton and corridos (Mexican Music) Do you have to constantly turn it on and off or is there a way to set it and forget it. What I mean is like having it tuned so that it only recovers bass in the corridos and it does nothing to hip hop and reggaeton while being on?
No
Thx marc good info.
It is. Thank you. I appreciate the comment
Thank you Mark good INfO
Is the accubass in the audiocontrol dm810 dsp the same as the epicenter
No. Accubass if to restore low bass roll-off from factory radios in cars. No need for accubass if you have an aftermarket radio. You can stack the accubass and epicenter with each other though. They serve different purposes
What if you listen to rap and Mexican music should you still have epicenter or how would you make it work
Epicenter fully in this instance. It has a knob and this knob basically turns it on and off
Issue is when people want it AND STRICTLY LISTEN TO RAP. That’s a huge no no.
@@wiredkustomsmotorsports thanks for the feed back
Old rock, ac/dc, eric ckapton etc slams
Thank you.. Steve Meade blocked me for telling him that when he got his 'special' one. lol well that and for referring to my pair of 18's in the mrk2 Gti 16v as 'twin 18s'.
When you been using them as long as I have you tire of spitting out "a pair of 18's in a folded horn" over and over at IASCA events.
Epicenters were designed for a purpose to fill in the blank where old studio recordings fell short. Never had customer's with true, full range systems like it once added on..
I started in 77 but finally ran into those by ~1985
This is what you get when you think you’re smarter than you really are. And by the way, there are cars with both superchargers and turbo’s being used together!
Yep! Bad analogy. Basically a fallacy argument. it is possible to combine a turbocharger and a supercharger in a setup known as 'twin-charging'. Utilizing both methods of forced induction can lead to significant power gains. That said, this is a complex engineering task and requires careful tuning to ensure the components work together effectively. Just like adding an Epicenter...
Epicenter doesn't boost the music or bass . He has given the wrong information here
Call AC
I dont believe you bro! You just dont want me to live loud 😮 and by the way my uncle has a drag truck that is low compression motor equipped with a turbo and a supercharger eith 150 shot of nos.
Not true. If you know how to use an epicenter it is a great addition to any music, even newer rap or Hip Hop!
Call AC to verify my info. They were just at my store 2 weeks ago and I brought up this exact topic.
Same shit as redlining your engine. The engine still works. The guy driving the car still thinks he isn’t doing anything wrong. But he is.
@@wiredkustomsmotorsports " The guy driving the car still thinks he isn’t doing anything wrong. But he is." Guess you have never heard of the V8 in the 458, the BMW S54 or the Honda B18C. Saying ignorant things like high rpms ruins an engine just hurts your credibility. Probably explains why you only have 2k subscribers.
Bad analogy. Basically a fallacy argument. It is possible to combine a turbocharger and a supercharger in a setup known as 'twin-charging'. Utilizing both methods of forced induction can lead to significant power gains. That said, this is a complex engineering task and requires careful tuning to ensure the components work together effectively. Just like the Epicenter. It works but you have to know what you're doing and pay attention as to when to use it.
As soon as he said it, I immediately said “ That’s not true” …... I have seen many turbo/Supercharged setups. I’m gonna say he’s not a gearhead and doesn’t know. Let’s give him a pass 😂
Why are you walking to no where?
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Not true ....