Want to become an electrician? Lee chose the domestic installer route and this is his story
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- čas přidán 11. 05. 2021
- In this video I talk to Lee who approached me to give his experience on the domestic installer route.
Lee initially paid for the classroom based intense course, as he was looking at just rewiring properties that he would buy and doing them up to sell/rent.
Due to his circumstances changing, Lee found himself made redundant due to Covid and as such, has had to fall back on this qualification which has thrown up a few problems that weren't immediately obvious.
This was an interesting insight into this particular route for me, because I have a lot of questions around the validity of these courses, and the quality and competency of applicants finishing the them.
This is Lee's story and if you are considering this option, then you may want to watch this video before you make your choice, as it may not be right for you.
Lee sounded like an absolutely smashing, enthusiastic and switched on individual, which is someone that will do well for this industry and I wish him all the best on his journey.
I've been doing simple things like adding a socket to a ring or moving a socket. Replacing light fittings and switches, Wiring in a new cooker to replace a broken one, that sort of thing since I was 15 after I did my work experience with an electrician. Obviously not the cooker type stuff at that age. I'm 58. I did do a ton of chasing into walls and putting in capping with clout nails during work experience. Since I did that I set up my own Burglar alarm company (25 years ago) to put myself through college and I spent three years before that as a vehicle accessory technician. I've also been setting up my own computer networks LANs as well as wireless LANs (mainly using Ubiquiti gear). I've always been practical and always done my own DIY. I've even put a new secondary consumer unit in my garage (20 or so years ago) which is fine. I got an Electrician to test it all and connect it to my fuse box in the house. When I say fuse box that's literally what it was. It had repairable fuses. He also fitted an RCD next to the fuse box before the cable (armoured) went out of the house to the garage.
I got onto NICEIC by just having my 18th edition. The main requirement was experience which I had 10 years working with an electrician. I have of course since done extra quals
Practice in your own house first. That's what I do on level 2. I have done EICR, Installed some external lighting and added a few sockets to a ring followed with tests. Next is CU change.
Another great video very interesting and informative
I'm in a very similar situation to Lee. I took a domestic installer course back in 2013, the plan was I was going to leave my career as a chef and me and my father would be buying property to do up and I would do the electrics. Plans changed, house prices went up and I ended up staying in my job for another few years.
this is very useful video. I was planning trades 4U route.
Hi Adrian. These videos are very interesting - thank you so much. My contribution is as follows. Lee is now qualified to carry out domestic installations, currently, after a few weeks of college work (but must have 2 years experiencebefore registering with a CPS), fair play to him. However, I have been in the industry since 1995, C&G 236 Part 1&2 - equivalent to Level 3 NVQ, apparently, plus the C&G 2391and BS7671 - plus other C&G in PAT testing etc. Yet, from 1st September 2021, I won't be qualified enough to carry out domestic installation work, and certificate it, unless I do further training - Experienced Worker Qualification. According to the upcoming new (EAS), Electrotechnical Assessment Specification which comes in to force on 1st September of this year, 2001. Lee, from the video will be able to carry out and certify domestic work - based on his short course qualification. This seems a bit absurd - the disparity - especially considering the time differences working within the industry. What are your thoughts? I am not criticising - simply highlighting another crazy anomaly - and further confusion within the electrical installation industry. Many thanks.
I find these videos really interesting.
This is a great video, well done to the lad for wanting to learn. It is hard for a mature learner to get set on with no experience. I did a traditional apprenticeship like yourself and agree that there will be holes in his learning and experience, no fault of his own. The courses should be tailored better. I have subscribed to your channel, great work mate.
Really, really interesting.
Hi, I have been looking at a domestic installers course lately. The part p defined scope takes five days, and the full scope takes another five days. After watching this video I'm now a bit reluctant to try these courses as ten days in total just seems a bit quick for those two qualifications. What do you think? Each course costs around £850. Cheers.
Hi Adrian thanks for your response to my question on your previous video i really appreciate it. Also i have just replied to comment you made on a Facebook post so i hope I'm not repeating myself but what I'd like to know is should i continue with the level 3 course or can I get an apprenticeship? as a 33 year old i am told by several people that it would be almost impossible to get an apprenticeship at my age also i don't care too much about the low pay at this stage as i just want to get onsite experience which i could use to become a fully qualified electrician. Please can you advise me. Thank you.
Some interesting points made about experience on site with the old fashioned 4/5 year apprenticeships being the most favoured quality route and training, but given circumstances and need to train men regardless of whether they are 16/18 year olds people need the opportunity to get a valid , city and guilds certificate or a qualification in some form of basic training in order for a person to even apply for half decent paying jobs to be able to learn and gain experience first hand , some of us just want to get better than minimum wage not do some quick courses and pretend to by experienced tradesman.
There are plenty of apprentice trained electricians out there doing shocking work.
I'm doing the exact same course of advanced domestic installer just got the last week to do myself. Would love to have a private chat on my experiences and life situation.
I was hoping that that a detailed review of Trades 4U will be given since this is one of the places I have shortlisted to start my Electrician journey. there is a small mention that their actual course is different to what is advertised but there is no further mention.
ts4u have banned me from their premises because I disliked my training experience of their EV course. The fact their Marketing Manager took that action told me all I need to know, I have over 20 years experience. When will industry step in? Never when £££ is all that matters. I feel for anyone taking these courses. I wish I could help help them.
Hi guys I’m adult learner looking to start an evening course at my local college. After watching your interviews I’m wondering if that’s the best route into the industry? The college trains you up to C&G level three in preparation for an apprenticeship. Is that a good route? I’ve tried applying for apprenticeships with no electrical experience and that has not worked. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks for the videos ch FYI I’m 42…
Glad I’ve watched the video, I’m 43 and and was about to apply for the domestic electrical installer course. The course is advertised as a win win, I.e you become qualified, can earn money from domestic installations and also do work for yourself and family, all after a 6 week course. Having watched this video, it seems the course really isn’t sufficient or doesn’t prepare you to a good or safe standard (if you have no previous experience)….with a family and responsibilities it’s not possible to train full time and I wouldn’t be likely to get job experience anyway….guess it’s time for plan B….
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