The Rise and Fall of Pochettino's Spurs
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After arriving in 2014, Mauricio Pochettino kept Tottenham Hotspur on a steady upward curve. Four top-five finishes in his first four years ended partway through the 2019/20 season with Spurs near the foot of the Premier League table.
So what happened? What went so wrong for Pochettino at Spurs?
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People like to point to Spurs' spending and transfer business but their rate of successful academy graduates in recent years is absolutely abysmal compared to other big teams. That hurts their depth more than anything in my opinion.
What hurts them the most is Levy being their president and trying to control everything.
Spurs U21s just got relegated 😂
@@Steveck072 Spurs U17 and U20 won Premier League Cup still.
@Burst maybe things are getting better at U17 level but no academy player has made the first team at Spurs in years. Was Kane the last one?
Don’t think you should be relying on your academy for first team depth in the first place.
Poch was sacked during the first really tough time in his tenure. There were bad times before that ofc, but that autumn - losing to Colchester, Bayern and Brighton 3-0 - was dreadful. It's at times like that where the chairman's true colours were shown. No loyalty to the great work Poch had done over the years, no real time afforded to let the new signings gel. Poch deserved to see through a proper rebuild (3 signings isn't a rebuild) and he never got the chance.
As with most things with Tottenham the problems ultimately come down to the board.
You said it perfectly.
The board never signed anyone. They were expecting the same starting 11 for all comps like it’s fifa or something
First rough time??
Uhm what?
Lol no. His league form was bottom of the table since the beginning of that calendar year. A fluke champions league run via Lucas bought him some extra time.
@@Megistrus that's true, but I'd say that was down to the lack of investment and refreshing of the squad. Then in the summer ENIC did his 'rebuild' but didn't help him enough
That 2017 team - what a lineup.
I didn't like Walker leaving at the time, but i think he saw the future and it wasn't good.
he saw money mate, cant blame him
@@jamesbissonette still the right decision though. He won almost everything.
@@jamesbissonette and trophies
Now he’s arguably the best Rb in prem history
@@jamesbissonette he saw that the ownership wasn’t ambitious enough and left
Yes, Pochettino is not a perfect coach. But for me, Poch have made Tottenham a different team that we see now. Lucas, Son, Dele (prior to 2018), Trippier, and even aging players like Vertonghen, Alderweireld, and Llorente are showing class.
But then again, as mentioned, Poch had the physical game style which worked if the players are fit enough to keep the same style. As more and more injuries piled up, Poch's game plan just got less effective.
Of course, most people are not gonna read all of this, but to keep it simple, Poch has revitalized Spurs to the point that they are a very different team at the time. Great video as always!
Poch is just pocket size Klopp. They can transform a team, demand high intensity football, and a bit stubborn on tactics.
@@mini-mudkipyeah true, poch is not the best tactician out there, but can certainly turn around the fortunes for the team he ended up with (i hope chelsea will rebound like the good old days)
All of this is true. The video also touched on 2019 summer signings before Poch got fired. He wanted to rebuild the team and it just didn't happen. Poch definitely saw the end of the cycle coming, Trippier wanted out and got sold, Dembele was already gone, and so he wanted to plan for the future. Somehow I doubt the guys Spurs did get that summer were his call completely. Multiple managers since Poch called out issues with club signings vs guys they asked for and didn't get for whatever reasons. Hard to believe that couldn't happen on his watch also.
hes the player who turned harry kane into the player he is right now literally Harry Kane when he graduated from Tottenhams academy went on loan to the lower leagues then was called up ahead of the 2014-15 season. Soldado was playing so badly spurs needed to replace him however pochettino didnt demand to buy a new striker and rather he played a 21 year old inexperienced Harry Kane, a gamble that payed of massively look where he is now
people think that son and kane have always been a duo even under pochettino. No thats not the case. Son and kane were always teammates but they weren't a duo till the 2020-21 season. under Pochettino and even in 2019-20 season they weren't a duo. Mainly because pcohettino had so many other classy forwards like Christian Eriksen (who was Tottenhams main playmaker) and dele alli so pochettino didnt even think about son kane duo. However in 2019-20 season dele alli dropped off so much and Eriksen left for inter so tottenham needed a playmaker, they finished the season 6th but they desperately needed a playmaker and in august 2020 Mourinho decided to experiment using Harry Kane in a deeper role and ever since September 2020 thats when son kane duo started
"I’m not a baby"- Pochettino
"Goo goo gaa gaa", Ruben 'Baby Boy' Pinder
“But I like to keep lemons.”
He'll win feck all at Chelsea! Same with Southampton & spurs 🤡.
"I am a baby" - Ole
thats exactly what a baby would say
Daniel Levy is more focussed on the aesthetic side of things - shiny new stadium, primetime sponsorship deals, flashy collaboration with the NFL, etc. But the behind-the-scenes costs of sustaining a club's success - investing in new players, developing youth products, sharpening the coaching squad, etc. - are somehow on the "too hard" basket.
Spurs' decline is the symptom of their management's hesitation to build for the future and develop the foundation of the team.
It’s funny before the last few years most Spurs fans loved Daniel Levy. He took us from finishing 10th-15th in the 90s and early 2000s to the champions league. He’s just messed up a bit in the last few years.
@@slev6592 he's a good owner but not an elite owner so I think he is just just got bit out of his depth with Tottenham almost at elite levels for a while
@@slev6592 Nope. We liked him because he was able to develop the brand of Tottenham when the brand of premier league football was growing exponentially. As a result of that, we were able to grow, because at the end of the day, money does make a difference. He's never been very popular because he kept on chopping and changing managers from when he bought us in 2001 until he struck bronze with Martin Jol and Comolli and fell out with them later; then he struck silver with Redknapp and a good chief scout in Broomfield (7 years after he bought the club). After that cycle ended, it was another 2 years of chopping and changing. AVB and Sherwood failed. Then, he struck GOLD with Kane coming from the academy, who he wanted to sell, and getting 5th choice Poch (as LVG went to united). 2 good years of recruitment because he struck gold with the DoF appointment (Paul Mitchell) were then ruined after he fell out with him. Levy is an excellent businessman but he is not a football person. Needs to dilute his power on footballing matters and bring in a specialist he backs purely monetarily. He has had multiple footballing directors under different job titles and multiple managers and his success rate with them is abysmal. 2 times he got it right and as a result spurs got European football regularly.
@@trystangovender4827 yeah I kind of agree but there is a part of me that thinks that the current problems are just growing pains. Also building the new stadium was difficult. People saying we are in crisis are exaggerating and if we get a good manager ( and not some win at all costs type who doesn’t actually care about long term development) and a sporting director I think we are in a strong place.
@slev he's messed up more than "a bit" mate 😂
I really do hope Chelsea give Pochettino what he needs to build a great squad in his image, I think he’s proven that if you give him the control something really special can be built at a club
Dude Chelsea have spent 6 billions
How much more do you want them to spend
@@el-youtub3r402 6 billions? Bro what chill they didnt spent 6 billions 😂even boehly didn’t bought chelsea with 6 billions
@@zertoubakhomis8932 welp i got my numbers wrong.
What i meant is that they spent 600 millions this season.
@@el-youtub3r402 only a factor of 10 off 😂
I think Spurs should have looked to re-enforce their team in the transfer windows of 2017 and 2018, cause Pochettino was doing wonders at Spurs between 2015 and 2018. Shame Levy seemed to lack that bit of ambition for Spurs at that time cause on their day they really played well those days.
Cheaper to sack your manager than buy a new team.
owner cant even name you our current starting 11. Chairman has 0 interest in anything football related. Their priority was building the stadium we never needed to generate more long term revenue.
Pochettino is underrated coach. He made a miracle with Totenhem and little money which owners gave them. Before him Totenhem was club for UEFA league. One time they were in CL. After his arrival Totenhem was fife time consecutive member of CL. Finally, Totenhem even plaid in final of this competition. On the other hand he created powerful team which were in a lot of times in the battle of winning the Premier league. Great man, no doubt.
Is overrated, what has he achieved to be underrated? He hasnt won anything and he reached UCL final by luck cos the referees botched the game against city.
@@playthegame7445 true but didn’t a botched VAR, albeit in its infancy, help Liverpool win an early penalty?
I still reiterate that Pochettino starting Kane in the Champions League Final was costly! The biggest game of the club’s history came with the biggest error. He should’ve started with the side that kickstarted the second half comeback against Ajax in the Semifinals: Lloris Trippier, Aldeweireld, Vertonghen, Rose Sissoko, Eriksen, Alli Moura, Son, Llorente
The only people that think that Pochetino is overrated is Tottenham fans themselves, he improved the club massively on a shoestring budget, but because he did not win anything they wanted him out 🤦
@@bongs_esc Yes, starting Kane who wasn’t match fit ahead of Lucas Maura for example was nuts. By then, the squad had reached its peak and needed to be heavily re-enforced.
How he decided to start Kane over Lucas in CL final is beyond me. One man has just banged in a hattrick and the other is walking around on crutches.
You think Liverpool would lose back to back CL finales lol
Lucas gets them into the Champions League Final and is rewarded with a spot on the bench. Dumb move by Pochettino.
I agree it was a bad decision and definitely unfair to Lucas but in the end Liverpool was already miles better than spurs in 2019. I think regardless of the lineup, Liverpool would end up winning that game.
@@mm6461 A bit similar to how Benitez didn't start Crouch in the 2007 final despite Crouchy scoring a ton of goals to get us there. We should've won that game, and would have if we'd been more aggressive. Could be on 7 European Cups now.
Spurs would have still gotten smashed by Liverpool even if Moura started. After that semi-final against Barca, nothing was stopping Liverpool from winning the UCL, the players were way too motivated.
16/17, Spurs were impressive under Pochettino that they finished 2nd and have a new stadium on the way and looking to push on for greatness. However the cracks as started to show. Sold Walker and his replacement Aurier was shocking, Sanchez is diabolical, Llorente was old and Moura despite being a exciting signing was never impressive amid some moments of brilliance. In the 18/19 season, they signed no one amid needing a massive rebuild. Dembele was passed his best, Wanyama got sold due to horrible injuries, Kane and Alli were overplayed to the point of injuries. Yes they made the Champions League final but it was just papering the cracks of a damaging Premier League season. Then 19/20 happened and despite signing new players, the rebuild came far too late and they got smashed 7-2 against Bayern Munich and put up a sorry performance against Brighton. The writing was on wall for Pochettino and after an uninspiring draw with Sheffield United his fate was sealed and got sacked and replaced by Mourinho. The downfall of Pochettino at Spurs came at the 18/19 season and at the same time, the brutal decline of Spurs as a club.
They came 3rd in a 2 horse race mate.
Couldnt have said it better myself. Its impressive how we even made it to the ucl final.
Spot on comment. I often think back to 16/17 where I feel Spurs and Liverpool where in very similar positions. Promising teams but not quite that top level. Liverpool went on to spend big money on van Djik and Alisson and we all know what happened after that. Spurs instead went 3 transfer windows without a signing. For me, this is exactly when they missed their opportunity and when Spurs finally spent big money on Lo Celso and Ndombele, it was already too late.
That stadium couldn’t have been built at a worse time. Worth it in the long run of course, but in the short term it destroyed Spurs’ chances at silverware. 16/17 Spurs had huge potential, that team didn’t get the investment they deserved
Aurier 😂 that guy gave Spurs's fans seizure everytime he played 🤣
Say what you will about potch and his lack of trophies, but that spurs side played some of the best football I’ve seen when they were at their best, just like Redknapp too only 2 or 3 signings away from winning the prem
I think what Pochettino has done during his tenure at Tottenham is very good
Well for Tottenhams history it’s good but for futbol in general he’s only a decent manager that should’ve never left Tottenham for the bigger jobs
@@user-fe1ri7hi2e ... he was fired
They never successfully replaced Dembele. Think that was the first mistake in a litany of transfer errors.
This is the ultimate truth. Ericksen filled a need and contributed but he's not Dembele and I believe they would've won UCL if he stayed through 2019. That's a difficult player to replace for all of the intangibles Dembele brought to the club.
The hope was Ndombele would be that but his attitude and fitness have never stood up to his ability.
Bentancur has been amazing in that role though. His injury is a massive part of spurs falling off this season after a good start
Never replaced dembele, they found a guy named ndombele. Never could find a quality 2nd striker. Should’ve never let trippier go. Winks and Skipp are on in the same. Very different story than any other team. It’s entertaining
Poch wanted to start rebuilding in the summer of 2017. He knew the players couldn't keep up with his style forever. Levy wouldn't do it. Spurs ran on fumes and miraculously made the CL final (and kept 4th place) in 2019.
Yep poch overachieved with spurs
It's exhausting being a spurs fan
No one hurt the team more than Conte lashing out at the players, when his flawed tactics obviously didn't work - despite him trying it week after week hoping for a different result. It removed Conte from a battle he couldn't handle and the players lost their confidence.
Poch is so much better than taking it out on the players when things go sideways.
As a spurs fan, I hope pochettino gets the support he needs at Chelsea, He is clearly a top top manager and can bring the best out of players. As a club Tottenham failed him, and the fans by not investing in the team.
Thank you for covering Tottenham. We had everything to win trophies, but poor investment and a lack of ambition from the board made the club regress.
Couldn't have put that any better. Levy has caused all of this 😞
Or is it the fact spurs don't win trophies? More than likely.
I know this is a bit oversimplified, but Dembele was the one thing they couldn't replace. That man made Spurs tick.
There channel never disappoint with their content loved it already
Its very amazing and feeling relax after watching this video. Thanks a lot..
An amazing 👏 coach ❤ 👏. Amazing. POCHETTINO is a legend in spurs hope he does bits with Chelsea he's so underrated 💙
Please put together a video for the period where José Mourinho was in charge of Spurs, and thank you for compiling this one for the Pochettino era
Amazing information
Wow what a home record that was won 17 drawn 2. Amazing
Tottenham under poch could won trophys if they spent money
This just goes to show how good a manager Poch really is
Couldn't even win CL with the best psg side of all time and now manages Chelsea, mid table manager at best. Wouldn't want him anywhere near my club.
Nicely presented
All this talk of Poch coming to United, I hoped it would not come fruition and the CL final confirmed it. Moura scored a hat trick in the semi and puts him on bench for the Final while Kane, who hadn't kicked a ball in 2 months, started. What even is that!
That's great work 👏👏👏👍👏👍
Quite sad when you look back at it. As an arsenal fan this was one arguably one of the best sides on their day (mind you they even beat Real Madrid). Lloris making crazy saves, Vertonghen and Alderweireld rock solid at the back, Dembele bossing the midfield, Son , Dele , Eriksen and Kane doing their magic. Club owners should remember that while a stadium move can be good, it also potentially ruins a growing squad that have the potential to win multiple trophies.
Pochettino's 4231 system was very good. Its just that he didn't had proper player for the system. In PSG, he couldn't manage the big boys and them bottling UCL was more of indivisual errors than Tactical one. Anyway, I hope Pochettino would have a memorable stint at Chelsea
Best version of the Pitt-Brooke theory that Poch was blameless in Spurs's decline. Doesn't take into account the lack of development from youth, although previous backroom changes--along with poor investments before and after Bale--made an impact. Complex picture that is more than "Poch wasn't given funds for transfers."
What's this theory about?
@@reintaler6355 Basically, "Poch wasn't given funds for transfers." AKA: "It was all Daniel Levy's fault."
History has proven - it is all Levy’s fault - Managers post Poch (including two serial winners) have done a lot worse than Poch.
ok but you missed the bigger point where he wasn't given enough funds to compete with other competitors. Also, there was a development of youth under Poch.
@@grapeappletwist The relative lack of funds is an issue--but not the only one, certainly. Poch had one, if not the most, talent young team in the league (at the pt. when the video started). He wasn't able to develop enough of his young talent to remain successful.
Excellent work 💖🎊🥰👍👍
Poch did more than amazing with them, he was like a legend
If I'm understanding this video correctly, the lack of recruitment and signings by the Spurs board is what truly led to their stagnation. Though it was noted that Pochettino's style was physically demanding and may have factored significantly into the club's injury problems, that doesn't seem to be faulted as a main cause of decline.
I wouldn't mind a video that does an updated overview of Pochettino's tactics. I haven't really been following him since he left the Spurs. How does Tifo find Pochettino's managing of PSG? Did PSG even let him implement his style, or was that perhaps impossible in the face of such immense celebrity-player power?
Amazing ❤️
Fantastic and amazing❤
amazing welldone
I love your review
Nice review..
His biggest mistake was that CL final when he benched Moura for an injured kane. Probably still would’ve lost but starting kane gave them zero chance of winning
Good analysis
Good job👍👍👍👍👍
Outstanding
Mind-blowing ❤️
Amazing 😍
Amazing 😍😍
Beautiful 🤩
It all started from not starting Lucas Moura at the Champions League final
Nah, that CL final was hiding the cracks of a team that was already falling apart. But I agree that Lucas should have started the final.
Amazing video
Beautiful
Excellent
Well played ❤
Sorry to see that the title challenge in 2015-16 and the turning point that was the Battle at the Bridge wasn’t really covered, particularly given the hiring of Poch by Chelsea.
I would argue these problems have never actually been fixed, the cracks have been papered over and it has culminated in all the past and present problems culminating into a massive rebuild needed
Amazing
Moussa Dembélé was underrated and under appreciated. He could have played in any team in the world and been a success.
Awesome 😍😍
0:02 loving these captions
Good job
I'm so glad what has happened to spurs these last few years. Levy and the players wanted Poch out and they've gone backwards
This just goes to show how good a manager Poch really is❤️
Good video
Superb 👍 very good
Wonderful
Superb
Very nice 👍
Well played
Fantastic
Beautiful place 😍
I can't believe tifo can get a video so wrong!
Poch has been looking for a rebuild since 2018
Mitchell left us after the 2016 window after putting in a request for Zaha or mane and ended up with sisokko. But correct he did hand in his notice prior.
We also signed aurier in 2017.
David Webb who left us in 2017 said: There were a few signing levy rejected and could have changed the trajectory of Tottenham.
Ultimately, we had a youth structure but it faded as soon as they realised they are working for levy and levy is the main culprit for all of this.
It was so clear to me that eriksen, son and dembele needed rotation, I really wanted isco in 16/17 season and according to the ATHLETIC, we were very close to signing him.
I strongly believe a better signing than sissoko or jansen or nkoudou would have really given us that push not only for the 16/17 season but for further seasons.
LOVELY AND FANTASTIC ❤❤❤
Pochettino’s key to success was always high pressing and creating a strong bond within the squad. Chelsea will be a tough task for him .
Why?
@@Omegaxxxfly lots of players
@@TheJonBob The bloated squad is being sold.
@@rowland5951 people need to actually buy them first. And those on decent contacts need to WANT to be sold.
@@stephenpalmer9375 by the time now, there already 8 players close to leaving within a week and clubs are interested
superb
Very good 👍
amazing
Needed this. Yes, gutted Poch has gone to them others but I was there for the Munich defeat and the writing was on the wall. Thanks for reminding us of his hard pressing methods and potential player burnout- that could have been offset with squad reinvestment
So- here’s to the great reset. With or without Harry. Club first COYS
Lol what’s there to look forward to as a spurs fan
@@jisunggoat960 you must be Surrey based (I’ll let you cogitate on that)
@@PHDiaz-vv7yo what’s there to look forward to as a spurs fan
@@jisunggoat960 you must be from Surrey- you can try cogitating again on that. Give it a try
@@PHDiaz-vv7yo so there’s nothing to look forward to. You poor guys
Very nice
This video starts at the high point and shows the fall from there, can we get a separate video that actually shows the rise?
Great performance 👏👏👏
Great video. There is an analogy to be made here with the lack of investment from Liverpool (albeit at a higher level than Spurs) who have delayed investing in their team and refreshing their highly successful side. They've started to do that now but it ends up being so costly when you drop into the Europa League and have less money to spend on transfers, and can't attract the same calibre of players. Would Van Dijk, Alisson and Fabinho have joined a Europa League Liverpool in their primes? Probably not
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"Harry Kane has declared himself fit" was one of the weirder phrases I have read. This was before the CL final. What about the medical staff?
That 2017 team -what a lineup
One man solely responsible.
LEVY.
My main consern with Pochettino is wether he capable doing anything else than trying to recreate his Tottenham side. To me it seems like he tried that at PSG, without pieces that fit that actually fit the same idea. At Chelsea he will be also devoit of CB's that are world class at distributing the ball.
I feel that he either needs to learn to adapt as a matchday tactician, or to face another failure.
He’s not a great in game manager either tends to make poor or late subs not reacting quick enough to what the opposition are doing
Very good
2017
What a line up!
So nice
I think what this video implied, but is good to emphasise further, is that Poch could've easily adapted his tactics at any point. He had a great system that probably would've continued to work well IF Daniel Levy had financed more players, and done so early enough to bed them in and create better squad rotation (and, you know, recruited more successfully). However, if that wasn't going to happen, Poch could have pragmatically said "well my physical style is going to run our squad into the ground, then. We'll have to try and adapt to something a little less intense." That's not to say it's Poch's fault but there is probably more he could have done.
Would adapting have worked? I don't know, it would've taken time and could've easily resulted in worse tactics but I sometimes think this is what separates great managers from the best managers. Klopp gradually adapted Liverpool's tactics into something more suitable. Pep obviously is continuously adapting. Poch has a style that works incredibly well but you can't always just stamp your style onto a club and expect results. Is he able to adapt it and innovate in order to match changing circumstances? Not with his time at Spurs, anyway. I don't know about at PSG but I wonder if he learned from the experience
When you suddenly drop your principles, there's a credibility problem. Poch made that team, first and foremost, on the principle that they were going to outwork everyone else. That's what made them good, it's what enabled them to punch above their weight. They weren't good enough, playerwise, to compete at the top end in a different manner. No one can know for sure, but suddenly going back on that would've just as likely as not made Poch less credible to the players *and* simultaneously resulted in worse results, and at a much earlier stage.
@@paulie-g it's certainly possible yeah, that's the big risk of it that we'll never know about. Ideally, he would find a middle ground where it's reigning some of it in to be more pragmatic but only in key moments. Being more pragmatic about pressing triggers and such, finding more moments in games for players to pace themselves...but who knows if that actually makes any concrete sense, I know nothing about management
@@mylittlethoughttree That's the thing - being full on all the time is a management decision, while choosing when to press is a player decision. It removes control from the manager and gives players license to get lazy. It's possible, Klopp has done it, but it came with issues.
That's the thing that made poch great for a while, was that it didn't matter who we were playing, he came at them in the same tactics and mindset and we always worked harder than other sides, it just eventually burned out cus we didn't replace the engine.
@@archiehammond2516 The tactics weren't always the same, Poch is not a completely one trick pony. The mindset and approach were fairly constant though, what you would call 'principles of play'. As a Liverpool supporter, it's not just the engine that went for Spurs, teams also adjusted to playing you the same way they adjusted to playing us, although in our case Klopp evolved things and, frankly, we were often too good anyway (like with some players you know exactly what they're going to do, but you can't stop it).
The one thing I think people miss is that Poch/Klopp/Hasenhuttl/Bielsa hard-pressing teams were incredibly fun to watch and very easy to fall in love with, because we see ourselves in them, in that if we ever got the chance to play for the clubs we love, we imagine we would run and hassle and harry till we got a heart attack. Even when the result doesn't go your way, you feel like the team couldn't have expended any more effort and, on an emotional level, that makes you feel a connection with the players, coach and club. You forget for those 90 mins that those players earn ridiculous money and would happily move elsewhere, it *feels* like they care as much as you do. It's a unique feeling in the modern game. *That's* why those managers/teams/eras are still so beloved by supporters.
Great👌👌👌
Amazing game
That semi-final in 2019 still hurts 😵💫
Cheers from an Ajax fan
Well done
Nice 👌
Well informed
fabulous
Good 💯