Great overview! Just nitpicking, but the ((!)) icon on the 500C is not for check engine, but for the brakes, it lights up when the sensors are triggered. This icon comes from cars, where it's meant to represent a drum brake with shoes on both sides.
I have the 500c on my Bafang Hub Motor bike and BT750c on the Mid Drive. When I bought both of them, I went with whatever display was available at the time. I like the size of the 500c. I have not set up the blue tooth on the Mid Drive bike. Great video. Very helpful.
Biggest gripe about the EggRider or a SW102 style controller is the thin plastic used for hinge pin. Heavy handed people who push the Top On/Off switch hard without supporting the bottom of controller, often break the plastic hinge off.
I really wish there were bafang compatible LCD (like the c965 and c961) that are visible in direct sunlight that include the gauges of the later model full color displays: ie: Speed, Voltage, Watts, WH, assist level, ODO, Trip, battery info ect... Most important thing is being able to see it in the real world, (out in the sunlight).. I have wasted hundreds of dollars (5 color displays) I find that the full color are useless in the sun.. they are LED standard TFT.. Not the sunlight readable TFT. they are amazing to look at inside, sitting in the shade or riding at night (problem is we ride on summer days in the sun).. and that is why all the reviews of the color displays are always done inside. You can't see them outside.. They are also affected by reflection of overhead lighting. PROS: LCD is always readable (w/backlight at night). But those older models don't have needed info: Watts, Voltage, Range, etc... If Bafang came out with a LCD (black/white) like the 965 or 961 with all the latest perimeters of the P860c or the T1, They would not be able to keep up with the demand... Just my opinion... I don't think i'm the only ebiker that bought a full color display, then regretted it because they can't see them on rides. Cheers.. Hope your move has been good. Rob
I'm glad I stumbled upon your videos. I made a custom frame bicycle (looks like a chopper) and I've been thinking about powering it with a Mid drive kit.
I have the inital one that came with the units, a 500c and eggrider. I preffer minimal but cant seem to get the eggrider fully working, so reverted back to the 500c does the job.
I've used the Eggrider V2 for 2 seasons now and I can tell you bluetooth is completely unreliable, takes so many tries to connect and won't stay connected. I love the display, it's small, easy to use, but the app connection is a complete joke.
Thanks for detailing all this info it was helpful. The problem I'm having is knowing what communication protocols are compatible with my system. I've got a 2022 heybike explore and it uses a YL80C Display. I was hoping to go with the 750c or 850c, t1? but I'm not sure if it'd work.
@JohnnyNerdOut Is it possible to add a keyed ignition to the bafang mid drive motors? If so, would you mind doing a video on it in the future? Thank you!
REFRESH RATE: I have the basic 800s and want to upgrade to a color display, but unlike this one, I have noticed that the 850c refreshes the speed every second or two. In contrast the 800s is super smooth and accurate, constantly updating the indicated speed - maybe at several times a second so it looks super accurate and doesn't jump around what speed it is indicating. Are there any color screens that have a high refresh rate?
Great video and informative. I'm looking to upgrade my display that came prebuilt bike with my Bafang M600. I noticed the connector coming out of the frame going to the display is a teardrop shape. When I look at displays to purchase, they make a point of displaying a round connector. Can you point me to a large color display that accepts the teardrop shape? I'm new to the ebike world am not sure what to purchase. Any assistance would be appreciated!
Hi Johny, is it possible to connect these displays to bike with bafang hub motor? What dicates what display can be used? My grandfather bought entry level hub motor bike, which has only led display KD59E with 5pin round connector. I would like to change it for something that shows speed or even better calculate range. Thank you. Have a great day!
Thank you for the video. Where and how do you connect those displays for testing? I also would like to run some tests without connecting each display to a bike. Your help would be appreciated.
Nice explaining the screens thnx, i use the 500C but they only live for around 1 year outside in the rain here in Holland, 3th screen orderd to keep on riding.
Hey Sebastiaan, mijn p860c is er na 18 maanden ook mee gestopt. Alles werkt nog behalve geen beeld meer. Het ligt niet aan de bekabeling. Ik rijd ook regelmatig in de regen, helaas. Slecht hoor dat die schermen na een tijdje spontaan stuk gaan. Ik ben benieuwd of de Dpc18 van betere kwaliteit is. De 600c stond op mn lijstje, maar nu twijfel ik weer. Scherm moet duurzaam zijn er niet om de haverklap stuk gaan.
Well, me, im going to do an attempt to remove the molded p860c screen. Because it's not assembled with screws, I have to carefully warm up the glass of the screen, put something under, to lift it with care. But what will I see there? Waterdamage or burnt components, or maybe a tft flex cable which came loose from the pcb?
I was kinda hoping there was an option for toggles for the pas, programming every thing on the pc or phone or what ever and no display, and or using the phone if needs be. the way I was thinking, once I get everything programmed for the way I ride I would know my range estimates and the display would only be draining power from then on, I don't care about maximum speeds only how i'm enjoying the freedom and scenary... Perhaps the egg is the most efficient given it's also the smallest display so wouldn't be eating the battery up.
My DPC18 is completely washed out, filled with moist after about 3 years of use. I don't see any raincovers for these displays. Anyone know of a rainproof display?
which model offers the most settings and which should i get if i run a 52v or 60v bat??? and lastly why do some have a password and some dont?? i dont really care about prettiest... i want most settings i can access and change like max spends etc!!! when u enter programming mode or setting to remove limitations...i want max performance!!! thanks to anyone that replies!!
@JohnnyNerdOut Hey it's me again! Would you mind doing a video in the future on the Buzz Bars and also...if you get a Lekkie Bling Ring do you need to also get the Lekkie cover for it to work? Your website and Lekkie both have the 40T come with the cover, but the rest of the sizes are sold separately.
Is it possible to connect a bafang display on any e-bike controller? I have a 500w bafang that looks better than the cheap Chinese basic one on my 3000w hub.
ive searched amazon for that egg rider display and all they show is one called sw102...is that the same thing? because the words egg rider show no results!
Holy crap.. this is EXACTALLY what I need! I have one 48v20ah rack-mount and one 52v22ah triangle on a 3000w hub-motor that keeps cutting out under high load! I HATE IT! So, I'ma stick the rack-mount on the back and combine them and should get enough combined wattage to no longer get the cut-out issue. My stupid triangle battery cuts-out for like two hours before it will reset itself! I have no idea how to manually reset it so it will work so I just have to sit there and wait for the thing to power-back-up. So, question, Jonny --- will this make my two batteries work as one 48v40ah? If it DOES then I should get almost 2kw on my 3kw hub and if I keep my controller set down to, maybe, 7 of 9 it might not cut-out. See, how it is is like this. I have the 3kw hub and the triangle battery that's 52v22ah so a little over 1kw. I have NINE settings for power. Setting 1 puts me at like 3mph and won't let more than like 50watts through... setting 9, I guess, goes up to 3000 or 5000 watts! I dunno... 'cause I usually keep it on level 3, which is like 900 watts... and if there's a huge hill I'm going up I set it to level 4! That cranks it up to about 1300 watts output and if I put it on level 5 ... POP!!! Power cuts when I get on the throttle hard and there I am waiting for 2 hours for the BMS (or whatever) to reset and come back! Will using this combiner allow me to crank it up to level 5 or 6 or 7 without cutting out? Thanks man - great channel. I gots to get me a mid-drive for one of my bikes from you now. Looks like hill climbing in San Francisco will not be such a nightmare if I get into mid drive!
Is it possible with a screen to lock /unlock a fast way to enable/disable a legal / not légal mode (legal 250w 25km/h, ou not legal 750w 45km/h)? I know its possible with other than bafang, every time ypu start the bike its legal mode, and you need to activate a manual switch to turn on illegal mode.
Hey Johnny, I just bought a kit off eBay and it has the 600c display, 52v hd. Your name comes up when I turn on the power. Why? Also how do I change programming on this thing? It has been an awful experience without having some manual on how to use it. Please help. Thank you
That is super weird. Perhaps you bought it used from someone who bought it from me? Ya, lack of manuals are the norm for custom ebike components unfortunately. CZcams has become the replacement ☹️
@@JohnnyNerdOut thanks for that. I was able to change the display and use the settings much better now. Yes it was off eBay as open box new and it was unused for sure. It's running great on my 29" Schwinn MTB. I need to upgrade the chain ring it has a 36 tooth. I'd like to go up the 52.
It would be useful to pass on to Bafang the message that they should implement a “panic” button, allowing to limit the speed of the bike to 15 mph. At the very least a quick method to do that. In my country, we are having more and more police controls checking the speed of the bikes. They put the bikes on a rolling road.
Ciao,puoi fare un video anche per il display DM03 o almeno scrivermi la password per entrare nel menu’ advance settings? Grazie mille in anticipo Giordan
I use my bafang on a trike. I am thinking of mounting a motor on my Tour Easy bent. I don't need usb. I use a battery pack to power my phone because I use that for navigation. In my view the battery on the bike is to power the bike and nothing else. I don't even like the light that came with my bafang. Its just going to cut down on my mileage. I have the c18 display. I will consider some other display for my other bent. But the c18 is fine for me. What I would really like to see is a different mounting system. One that would allow me to quickly remove the display if I go into a store. Much like what some lights or bike computers offer. The egg rider is way too small.
@@briankent6164yes that's because it needs battery that is actively clock the time. Things like desktop computer can still work with correct time even when they are disconnected because they have a coin cell battery in the motherboard which tracks that. So yes they are completely useless without this. You can however buy little clocks you can mount on the handlebar or stem.
Very useful! For others looking for reference timestamps & displays covered
@0:00 : Intro
@1:11 : 800s aka c965
@3:40 : 500c
@6:33 : 600c
@8:50 : P850c / DPC14
@12:28 : BT750c
@15:01 : T1
@18:25 : Eggrider
@22:09 : Outro
Great overview!
Just nitpicking, but the ((!)) icon on the 500C is not for check engine, but for the brakes, it lights up when the sensors are triggered. This icon comes from cars, where it's meant to represent a drum brake with shoes on both sides.
Look like a white DMX. Great video.
I have the 500c on my Bafang Hub Motor bike and BT750c on the Mid Drive. When I bought both of them, I went with whatever display was available at the time. I like the size of the 500c. I have not set up the blue tooth on the Mid Drive bike.
Great video. Very helpful.
Great video my new handcycle has the Bafang mid drive. Definitely be upgrading the display when I get it.
Biggest gripe about the EggRider or a SW102 style controller is the thin plastic used for hinge pin. Heavy handed people who push the Top On/Off switch hard without supporting the bottom of controller, often break the plastic hinge off.
Your best video to-date. Exactly what I was looking for. Cheers.
I really wish there were bafang compatible LCD (like the c965 and c961) that are visible in direct sunlight that include the gauges of the later model full color displays: ie: Speed, Voltage, Watts, WH, assist level, ODO, Trip, battery info ect... Most important thing is being able to see it in the real world, (out in the sunlight)..
I have wasted hundreds of dollars (5 color displays) I find that the full color are useless in the sun.. they are LED standard TFT.. Not the sunlight readable TFT. they are amazing to look at inside, sitting in the shade or riding at night (problem is we ride on summer days in the sun).. and that is why all the reviews of the color displays are always done inside. You can't see them outside.. They are also affected by reflection of overhead lighting.
PROS: LCD is always readable (w/backlight at night). But those older models don't have needed info: Watts, Voltage, Range, etc... If Bafang came out with a LCD (black/white) like the 965 or 961 with all the latest perimeters of the P860c or the T1, They would not be able to keep up with the demand... Just my opinion...
I don't think i'm the only ebiker that bought a full color display, then regretted it because they can't see them on rides. Cheers.. Hope your move has been good. Rob
Just what I was looking for, the P850c is the display I want on my bike. Thank you for the video. NICE.👍👍👍👍👍
No problem 👍
I'm glad I stumbled upon your videos.
I made a custom frame bicycle (looks like a chopper) and I've been thinking about powering it with a Mid drive kit.
I have the inital one that came with the units, a 500c and eggrider. I preffer minimal but cant seem to get the eggrider fully working, so reverted back to the 500c does the job.
got BT750 style on an bbs02 and bbsdh . Love to have the usb plug in .
Thank you for the review, very helpful.
I've used the Eggrider V2 for 2 seasons now and I can tell you bluetooth is completely unreliable, takes so many tries to connect and won't stay connected. I love the display, it's small, easy to use, but the app connection is a complete joke.
Has it improved at all through updates?
@@TrippinTaftyno, because as of last news they say it's hardware antenna - related.
thx for perfect explanation each one display
Thanks for detailing all this info it was helpful. The problem I'm having is knowing what communication protocols are compatible with my system. I've got a 2022 heybike explore and it uses a YL80C Display. I was hoping to go with the 750c or 850c, t1? but I'm not sure if it'd work.
@JohnnyNerdOut Is it possible to add a keyed ignition to the bafang mid drive motors? If so, would you mind doing a video on it in the future? Thank you!
REFRESH RATE: I have the basic 800s and want to upgrade to a color display, but unlike this one, I have noticed that the 850c refreshes the speed every second or two. In contrast the 800s is super smooth and accurate, constantly updating the indicated speed - maybe at several times a second so it looks super accurate and doesn't jump around what speed it is indicating. Are there any color screens that have a high refresh rate?
Great video and informative. I'm looking to upgrade my display that came prebuilt bike with my Bafang M600. I noticed the connector coming out of the frame going to the display is a teardrop shape. When I look at displays to purchase, they make a point of displaying a round connector. Can you point me to a large color display that accepts the teardrop shape? I'm new to the ebike world am not sure what to purchase. Any assistance would be appreciated!
Thanks for the video.
Are the different displays compatible with all motors? My bike has a Bafang Ultra M620
Hey, will you ship a completed bike to Los Angeles?
@johnny what about the new C245 display?
Nice video 👌
Great video! Thanks for that! :) It rains a whole lot where I live, so I wonder which 2-3 displays are in your opinion most weather resist?
500c, 600c and EggRider if it were me
Thanks! I think I will go with the 500c🤘🏼
Hi Johny, is it possible to connect these displays to bike with bafang hub motor? What dicates what display can be used? My grandfather bought entry level hub motor bike, which has only led display KD59E with 5pin round connector. I would like to change it for something that shows speed or even better calculate range. Thank you. Have a great day!
Would the 750 run the 60v battery fromt unity. The long tube battery. Ans with a 60v display
Do any bafang displays have a temperature reading on it
What displays will rotate 90 degress
Thank you for the video. Where and how do you connect those displays for testing? I also would like to run some tests without connecting each display to a bike. Your help would be appreciated.
You would need it to be powered from the wiring harness. I just powered up a motor on a bench and connected the displays one by one.
Is there any screen protectors for these ebikes screens as with phones
I have a bafang rear hub motor 250watt would the 850c work
Nice explaining the screens thnx, i use the 500C but they only live for around 1 year outside in the rain here in Holland, 3th screen orderd to keep on riding.
Hey Sebastiaan, mijn p860c is er na 18 maanden ook mee gestopt. Alles werkt nog behalve geen beeld meer. Het ligt niet aan de bekabeling. Ik rijd ook regelmatig in de regen, helaas. Slecht hoor dat die schermen na een tijdje spontaan stuk gaan. Ik ben benieuwd of de Dpc18 van betere kwaliteit is. De 600c stond op mn lijstje, maar nu twijfel ik weer. Scherm moet duurzaam zijn er niet om de haverklap stuk gaan.
Have you taken old ones apart?
Well, me, im going to do an attempt to remove the molded p860c screen. Because it's not assembled with screws, I have to carefully warm up the glass of the screen, put something under, to lift it with care. But what will I see there? Waterdamage or burnt components, or maybe a tft flex cable which came loose from the pcb?
1919 nel display apt 750c non funziona! help
Sold house👊👊💪💪. Be riding up soon. Just hit 3k on ebike. Great video. Me? All I need is voltage,and amps. He he
Any opinion on which displays are best in very bright sunshine?
I have the colored one that has the light sensor and I can see it fine even with my sunglasses on
I was kinda hoping there was an option for toggles for the pas, programming every thing on the pc or phone or what ever and no display, and or using the phone if needs be. the way I was thinking, once I get everything programmed for the way I ride I would know my range estimates and the display would only be draining power from then on, I don't care about maximum speeds only how i'm enjoying the freedom and scenary...
Perhaps the egg is the most efficient given it's also the smallest display so wouldn't be eating the battery up.
I don't have a bafang motor so can I still use these models
My DPC18 is completely washed out, filled with moist after about 3 years of use. I don't see any raincovers for these displays. Anyone know of a rainproof display?
You keep on saying not to follow the battery levels. Then, how should we read the voltage to know when level our battery is at?
czesc znasz sie na licznikach mam nowy kupiony i nie dzialaja wskazniki licznikowbateria i gaz dziala wyswietla sie a przejechanekm nie co jest
I know this was just a brief overview of these displays but do you know how to reset the odometer on the 600c? Thanks
You cannot. Only the trip meter.
Can you include the EKD01/B02N-U display in your review?
I’ll do a separate review of it
which model offers the most settings and which should i get if i run a 52v or 60v bat??? and lastly why do some have a password and some dont?? i dont really care about prettiest... i want most settings i can access and change like max spends etc!!! when u enter programming mode or setting to remove limitations...i want max performance!!! thanks to anyone that replies!!
@JohnnyNerdOut Hey it's me again! Would you mind doing a video in the future on the Buzz Bars and also...if you get a Lekkie Bling Ring do you need to also get the Lekkie cover for it to work? Your website and Lekkie both have the 40T come with the cover, but the rest of the sizes are sold separately.
Only the 40t requires the cover to be replaced as it has crazy offset 👍
@@JohnnyNerdOut thank you sir!
Esiste un display compatibile con bafang m500 che sblocca la velocità di 25 km/h???? Grazie (attacco CAN)
Is it possible to connect a bafang display on any e-bike controller? I have a 500w bafang that looks better than the cheap Chinese basic one on my 3000w hub.
Depends on your controller
Does the 500C and 600C work on a Bafang rear wheel hub?
Yes they do.
ive searched amazon for that egg rider display and all they show is one called sw102...is that the same thing? because the words egg rider show no results!
I have the 500c but for some reason now the display shuts right off and idk how to fix that. I've reconnected the cables and still nothing
Doesn't it have a setting for a automatic off for when not in use
@@ferguson8143 Well obviously all of the displays shut off when NOT in use, but that's not even close to what I'm talking about
Holy crap.. this is EXACTALLY what I need! I have one 48v20ah rack-mount and one 52v22ah triangle on a 3000w hub-motor that keeps cutting out under high load! I HATE IT! So, I'ma stick the rack-mount on the back and combine them and should get enough combined wattage to no longer get the cut-out issue. My stupid triangle battery cuts-out for like two hours before it will reset itself! I have no idea how to manually reset it so it will work so I just have to sit there and wait for the thing to power-back-up.
So, question, Jonny --- will this make my two batteries work as one 48v40ah? If it DOES then I should get almost 2kw on my 3kw hub and if I keep my controller set down to, maybe, 7 of 9 it might not cut-out.
See, how it is is like this. I have the 3kw hub and the triangle battery that's 52v22ah so a little over 1kw. I have NINE settings for power. Setting 1 puts me at like 3mph and won't let more than like 50watts through... setting 9, I guess, goes up to 3000 or 5000 watts! I dunno... 'cause I usually keep it on level 3, which is like 900 watts... and if there's a huge hill I'm going up I set it to level 4! That cranks it up to about 1300 watts output and if I put it on level 5 ... POP!!! Power cuts when I get on the throttle hard and there I am waiting for 2 hours for the BMS (or whatever) to reset and come back! Will using this combiner allow me to crank it up to level 5 or 6 or 7 without cutting out? Thanks man - great channel. I gots to get me a mid-drive for one of my bikes from you now. Looks like hill climbing in San Francisco will not be such a nightmare if I get into mid drive!
8:01 does the 600C display let you change the max speed? Thank you!!
Yes. They all have speed limit options though.
@@JohnnyNerdOut thanks!
How ? I can not do anything with it.
Is it possible with a screen to lock /unlock a fast way to enable/disable a legal / not légal mode (legal 250w 25km/h, ou not legal 750w 45km/h)?
I know its possible with other than bafang, every time ypu start the bike its legal mode, and you need to activate a manual switch to turn on illegal mode.
EggRider can allow two settings to be changed with the press of a button
@@JohnnyNerdOut is it possible to lock that with a pin code a special manipulation ?
Thank you
Hey Johnny, I just bought a kit off eBay and it has the 600c display, 52v hd. Your name comes up when I turn on the power. Why? Also how do I change programming on this thing? It has been an awful experience without having some manual on how to use it. Please help. Thank you
That is super weird. Perhaps you bought it used from someone who bought it from me? Ya, lack of manuals are the norm for custom ebike components unfortunately. CZcams has become the replacement ☹️
@@JohnnyNerdOut thanks for that. I was able to change the display and use the settings much better now. Yes it was off eBay as open box new and it was unused for sure. It's running great on my 29" Schwinn MTB. I need to upgrade the chain ring it has a 36 tooth. I'd like to go up the 52.
Hi can i use any of the displays to replace 860c
Yes if you have the Bafang bbs motor
Do we have anything that tells us the temp of the motor?
CYC motors do.
my bike used an 800s can i use a 850c?
If it’s a bafang it should have no problem
It would be useful to pass on to Bafang the message that they should implement a “panic” button, allowing to limit the speed of the bike to 15 mph. At the very least a quick method to do that. In my country, we are having more and more police controls checking the speed of the bikes. They put the bikes on a rolling road.
Just program the higher assist mode to be under legal limit. They only test the max assistance level anyway
@@sawarinekoilvile945 Good idea
Ciao,puoi fare un video anche per il display DM03 o almeno scrivermi la password per entrare nel menu’ advance settings?
Grazie mille in anticipo
Giordan
Use the chapter feature
🤦♂️🤦♂️
"Check engine" on the 500c is telling you that your brake or shift sensor is engaged.
It can also show all the error codes such as 21h, no speed detection registering which is nice
I use my bafang on a trike. I am thinking of mounting a motor on my Tour Easy bent. I don't need usb. I use a battery pack to power my phone because I use that for navigation. In my view the battery on the bike is to power the bike and nothing else. I don't even like the light that came with my bafang. Its just going to cut down on my mileage. I have the c18 display. I will consider some other display for my other bent. But the c18 is fine for me. What I would really like to see is a different mounting system. One that would allow me to quickly remove the display if I go into a store. Much like what some lights or bike computers offer. The egg rider is way too small.
What mean 21 H in
It means it’s not detecting any speed. Check to make sure the speedometer sensor is hooked up correctly
Anyone think the clock feature on the display is useless. You'd have to set it every time you disconnect the battery
No its saved along with all your settings you have it set for
@ferguson8143 Help me understand! My clock goes back to noon every time I disconnect my battery to charge it.
@@briankent6164yes that's because it needs battery that is actively clock the time. Things like desktop computer can still work with correct time even when they are disconnected because they have a coin cell battery in the motherboard which tracks that. So yes they are completely useless without this. You can however buy little clocks you can mount on the handlebar or stem.
I don't believe that a ebike can go for thousands and thousands of miles. They don't last that long.
I have about 10k miles in my original motor. Bafang BBSHD
Not a big fan of the EggRider, tried it, sold it.
C245 looks like the one to try
Can bafang displays be used with generic controllers or just bafang specific?
Generally Bafang specific controllers