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What happens with you connect a toner to a line that is already connected to an Ethernet switch? What's behind the results you get? And what's the difference between an analog and digital toner? Find out here!
You can order a Fluke Intellitone Pro toner and probe here:
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This is by far one of the best educational videos I have seen on how to trace cabling, even though the presenter is all over the map with his presentation and could have been a bit more organized in laying out the information he has done an exceptional job in cover the topic, so you may have to watch the video more than once to understand every thing completely.
This is great. You answered all my questions and none of the other videos did.
Notification Squad 🔥🔥
Love your videos...You deserve a lot more subs and views.
Very nice job. Thank you for taking the time to put this together.
Wow. Excellent contribution to the community lol great detailed review. Thanks 🙏🏻
I just got an intellitone and this video was very useful in helping me understand how to use it, and much about ethernet in general. Thank you!!! I'm subscribed and will be looking at more of your videos!
This is a very informative video. Explained the concepts very clearly. Great job.
Always a welcomed sight to see an upload from you... but two! Wow!
I owe you one. I was trying to tone out a phone line in an apartment building where we offer VoIP phone service, but my "Pro-sumer" (Sperry) toner was getting too many false signals to distinguish the actual pair from induced pairs. (These were on the far end of the longest 25-pair in the building.) After a couple unsuccessful hours, I ran out of time, and had to reschedule for the next day. Our new subscriber was gracious, but I was embarrassed.
The Fluke 3000, which I ordered after watching this video, was delivered that evening. When I went back the next day, it brought me directly and unambiguously to the correct pair. Lesson learned! Thanks FN.
@Hoo Mantew I mean Fluke 3000. I was tracing copper pairs, not Ethernet.
This is super cool. I have the Intellitone but everyone I work with has analog toners and I didn't know you could tone a live circuit just by disconnecting one lead.
Awesome and informative thanks for the great video, also subscribed.
Love this man I always cont figure out why my tone would stop when plugged in to a switch. I work for a phone company and another company runs cat 5 in houses we borrow there wire all the time haha but they leave them plugged into a switch outside. Haha
very nice explanations, thanks alot
Love the ninja cat!!
Biggest mistake people use with tone generators is they do not check for continuity. They throw the rj11 in a data port (rj11 is there for phone lines not data) not realizing its putting tone down the blue pair which is connected on the switch end. I use a stripped patch cable (with brown pair cut cuz its poe+) and use the alligator clips and put tone down different color wires. As long as the colors different you wont have continuity and youll have a strong tone thats easy to locate and is easier to locate (in my exp) than sending tone down 1 wire and grounding the second. I have a triplett fox and hound that also does the tone change when continuity changes and use a rj45 with the wires shorted to test the end to confirm its the correct line.
Also you see alot of these dirt cheap all in one toner probe kits on amazon like the Elegant. I tested them and they basically have a weak am radio in the probe (not an inductive amplifier like tempo tripplett and fluke, hence a much lowe price) and send a high voltage tone (7 volts on 8 wires instead of 3-4v on 2 like tempo and fluke) down all wires. but they go down pairs that do not have continuity on the switch end so they do sound loud and not hard to locate on a patch pannel. The downside is lots of cross talk. Its not hard to narrow down on a patch pannel but in a bundle it was impossible, and a short battery life in the tone genetator. Theye make an ok once in a while tool but thats it. Not a tool to use if you do this kinda thing regularly.
The amount of times I watched this video and never noticed the cat
Hello! Do you have any additional information on the packet which gets sent out by the Fluke toner? Is there a website/document you could refer me to? Thank you!
I have to understand which cable is which in a derivative box inside a wall. I can easily unplug cables at the switch side and plug that end in the toner, but at the other end of the cable it might be plugged to a access point that I can't easily reach. Is it safe to use a digital tone and probe when one end of a cable is connected to the tone and the other end of the cable is connected to any possible device, say an access point or a smart tv etc?
excellent
İve got 20PCs at school with Keystone patch panel....and i dont have any tools at the video.....damn...how i will solve it in 2 days
Is the Psiber Data Systems CTK1215 Tone Probe similar to the Fluke Intellitone? If not are there any other digital tone and probes on the market similar to the Intellitone?
Why there isn't fluke networks ms2-100, cableIQ, Linkrunner 2000 AT?
This is an awesome video!
Just curious - in the video around 11:00 onwards, there's a document on the screen that appears to show the Fluke Intellitone protocol, along with the headers etc.
Are you able to share where this document came from, or where we can read more about the protocol?
I'll try and dig it up when I get a chance here soon. I was sent the document directly from Fluke. I had called them before making this episode as I was looking for a good explanation on how the Intellitone worked and what made it different from everything else. The funny thing was that the person that designed the Intellitone at Fluke is no longer there and it's now at the point where the remaining staff don't really seem to have a solid understanding themselves! LOL So, they sent me the documentation they could find and called it good. I believe you might be able to find this PDF floating out there on the interwebs but I'll still see if I can find my copy in the next day or two.
@@FiberNinjaStudios any luck?
What’s the functional difference between the intellitoners with the 4 yellow lighted icons like yours and the ones with I think I’ve been seeing 1 or 2 yellow icons? Pretty sure I’ve been seeing them with the same model name - Intellitone 200 pro. I’m aware of the 100 pro. Can you explain the different models if possible? Or point me to where- I can’t seem to come across any literature. Even on fluke website. Thanks
That's actually a great question. I'll have to try and explain the differences in an upcoming episode. But for now, here's what I have documented as the added features that the 200 model has but the 100 model does not:
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IntelliTone Pro 200 Kit (adds the following functionality)
• Identifies and diagnoses 10/100/1 Gb Ethernet link connectivity with NIC/hub indication
• Identifies and diagnoses POTS with Line 2 POTS service and polarity
• Verifies twisted-pair installation with CableMap capability which identifies common cable miswire
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Frankly, I don't even know why the Intellitone model 100 even exists. The cost savings is just not worth the features you lose. If you're that strapped for money for test equipment, I wouldn't be looking at Fluke products in the first place. Hope this helps!
Thanks FN, that’s what I wanted to hear. Sounds like a do it all tone and probe kit. I install isp as well as pots. Can this be used to identify live wires perhaps without knocking out dsl voltage?
@@sjdj408 It can definitely be used to identify live wires. The larger of the two pieces with the 4 different states shown on the device are a terrific method of determining live and dead circuits. Will it knock out DSL signals? Maybe. But the fact is that if a tech like you or me is on the site testing the line, I'm pretty sure the DSL line is either already down or at the least not working too well to start with! To my recollection, I don't ever think I've had any problems with DSL carrier signals after using this device for troubleshooting. But, again, I'm not usually there when the DSL is working without any issue!
Having this tool is fantastic for both POTS and beyond. Because of the fact that it can jump from analog to digital testing, it takes the place of several devices -and the digital tone and probe function of the Intellitone is one thing that no other tool can do!
@@FiberNinjaStudios This should be a nice compliment to my TS52 test set, thanks for the information.
Yeap, and you can listen regular voice calls, jejejej on the punch blocks.. ;0)
Your cat must always sleep at the top of the shot I assume 🤭
you have a break in the line, or you may have the wrong pairs.
If you are unsure you can short them out so you know 100% its the pair you are looking for.
Kitty!
How come you stopped making videos 2 years ago?
Its a long story -and it's still developing right now. I'm working on a return to the channel but things just keep happening. Presently, my entire channel got demonetized after being accused of "reused content" which is absurd. I'm fighting with them now for about a week with little hope of getting back my income.
What benefits does the digital tone have for alarm wire, if any? Thanks
I don't see it having much use for cable systems not using Cat5 or 6 cables. It's just not designed for it.
@@FiberNinjaStudios so even if I'm working with a rats nest of wires, it won't be useful?
It would be no better than a conventional tone and probe set. The "digital" features the Intellitone device offer nothing that would benefit your situation unless the cabling is a category type. Alarm wire does not have a twist nor is it connected to a network switch.
@@FiberNinjaStudios Okay. We do work with twisted pair as well as 5e/6, so I still would benefits, but not for 4/2 pair. Okay. Thanks for the fast response.
@@FiberNinjaStudios question: what does validating the cable shield do for you?