@@Tugela60 It can't be released onto their copies of Windows without risking a lawsuit. Weird how consumer protections work, and you should vote for them.
It's dumb for general consumers. It's a business type of ability that some company could impose on its employees not something some home user jacking it to porn wants available.
They said it has a limit based on total disk capacity and how much you want to store it. I think it's something like 25 GB per month, and by default it stores 3 months, unless you have a really small disk, like a 256 GB SSD. And bigger ranges were 150 GB or 300 GB, don't remember. Frankly, for this day and age, it's not THAT much. Anyway, apparently if it gets filled, the older stuff gets deleted, so it doesn't overflow over this limit. Assuming there's no blatant lie or bug here, I'd say this is Recall's least concern.
@@Winnetou17 That's still a lot. 75GB is a ton of space. Even on a 1TB disk, that's pushing 10% of the usable drive space after formatting, for an utterly stupid feature. This feature benefits Microsoft more than it does end users.
@@MiniDevilDF True, but that being said, if you DO want the feature, the space used I'd say it's ok. And if you DO NOT want the feature, then it's most likely not because of the space taken. In a way, it would make it even more obvious if it's on when you thought it's off.
The problem with recall is that even if you opt out of it, any business that have your data could have it active. So basically it's a real goldmine for any possible zero day hacks to quickly grab and go with enormous amounts of customer data, medical data, financial data, etc etc. Public computers will also be compromised.
And it's enough just a split second when you try to log in your any of your account (even your bank account..), and you just reveal the password to check it you writted it right, and a bad timeing on screenshot can easily catch that, and good luck to avoid any hacking what get that screenshot.. i know it has a small chance, but keep in mind you do it a lot of times, so it will surely catch it sometimes..
@TamasKiss-yk4st another thing, too, is that it could be used to find out patterns of behaviour by hackers to predict future movements. For example, if holiday details was pulled, then they would know when to target properties for breaking in, both homes and businesses. There are so many ways it could be used badly.
Microsoft should tighten security to a maximum before they even throw around the idea of recall, It's a huge security risk of a feature and you need the most powerful security features backing you up before even considering adding it...
If the 9950X3D gets both CCXs with 3d V-cache it means it's gonna get almost 200mb cache in total!!! I really can't make any conjectures about the impact of this in games... There has never been anything close to that in commercial CPUs.
It’s not gonna make a huge impact in games because not all games benefit from 3D v cache. Also there is a limit to the amount of cache a game would utilize regardless of it benefiting from having a lot of it. AMD needs to improve both their IPC and clock speed if they want to mop the floor with Intel.
This would ultimately not be very effective or true for performance gain because the cache is across an entire ccd. If any practical game could even use more than 8 cores effectively: getting a game to use that much cache is another problem altogether
@@ZackSNetwork they already mop the floor with intel for gaming what are you talking about? The 7800X3D is faster than the 14900k while pulling 200 watts less and also costing less WTF.
It doesn't sound real, because AI tries to sound like successful youtubers. Old mate here, is one of the people it copies. I think he is real, but a lot of the youtube AI fakes sound very much like this, because it's people like him they copy. The "Gee Wiz! We're all special!" gush ~ he's the example AI is copying, or one of them. It knows what works. Seems low key and measured and subtle isn't successful. People who advertised toothpaste and laundry detergent in the 1950s knew that ~
Yeah around 20-30% uplift for the same price you paid last year was a nice period for GPUs. Intel stagnated gains due to no competition for CPUs, caught slacking and now scrambling to try make up for it.
@@asmongoldsmouth9839 I upgraded my 2080 to a 7800XT, so I'm good for now. But that's still way different when you say "go grab a last gen GPU which is now discounted to upgrade your 7y old GPU. Back then I could build a new pc for the same price (used to spend about 800ish euros, with mid tier GPU and CPU) and had a great uplift from 2/3 years prior. Then I had to pay about 1200 for the same kind of mid tier PC. Nowadays? 1500 or bust, with a 600 bucks GPU being the mid tier category and taking almost half of the whole RIG price Oh and I'm talking no RGB or fancy case or anything btw, or the price would be 2k+.
It was run locally. Microsoft are not going to build massive server farms just to host screenshots being taken every few seconds. All that stuff would be stored on your own computer.
I been around before there was a such thing as AMD, Snapdragon and the big boy on the block was Intel headed up by Andy Grove at the time. His motto was "Only The Paranoid Survive." After he left all others were merely riding his success. They got lazy and stopped innovating thinking no one will catch them.... Now look, They're looking more and more irrelevant every single day!.... Never think you are king of the hill even after you're at the top of the hill!
when I see the basic computer skills of people like in the office I have a problem with it existing because most people handling my data in other places (like insurance corporations, hr, government agencies, doctors office, etc.) my data will be in the system within months even if I don't share them.
But there's also been a ton that were spot on. Like Ryzen 9000 specs, Ryzen AI 300 naming and specs, the RDNA 4 raytracing looks accurate, Snapdragon X Elite, and probably 100 more. There were some that were revised, but not too many I'd say were flat out wrong.
@@tringuyen7519 The only issue with that is that the US has restrictions on anything above the 4090D, so I don't even know if they'd be allowed to sell it to China.
@@reiniermoreno1653 Recall gives you waaaaaaay more info compared to just what is stored on the disks currently, since its historical data. Lots of info you entered might not be stored anywhere on your PC... but Recall will save it
Last time I heard some company said they won't invade privacy riot released vanguard for league which should only do things while you are playing league, expect when i start something like Skyrim my cpu shoots up to 100% usage only when vanguard is on, so now league and vanguard are uninstalled
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Eh there were other reasons the asymmetrical chips for the 7950x3d were troublesome aside from clocks. Without putting in the effort to do so various programs didn't take full advantage as it would run them either on the wrong ccd or throttle down to match the x3d since it was using both on the same task. With finagling you could side step this but your average users wouldn't go to such extremes to do so. It ended up making the 7800x3d more preferred for eas of use and desired performance behavior.
Apple and its users are a lost cause. They don't give a fuck about their users and their users are constantly bending over saying "yes, daddy! Take away my consumer rights! Mark it up by 300%!"
We must check for sub processes because I can see the user side of recall being gone, but I'm scared they will sneak it back in just for capturing training data.
Kingpin interview over at Nexus was by far the biggest news of the year for more avid pc gamers and enthusiasts. His work is legendary and can't wait to see his work again
Privacy issues aside I would be concerned with how bloated the APPDATA folder would get in the user profile with Recall. I work in IT support for a health care company and the overwhelming majority of our 20,000+ user machines only have 250GB SSD drives. Unless Recall has a time limit or a mechanism to prune itself Recall will be a big problem if it allowed to just record data forever.
00:18 - Microsoft Recall Feature Gone 03:36 - Nvidia 5080 looks set for end of year release 04:48 - Ryzen 9000 early pricing, Ryzen 8000 price drop 07:46 - AMD making Zen5 X3D better, possible OC support.
Didnt this happen already with another company. All of the sudden, huge backlash and they backtracked, 3 months later it was implemented anyways and NO one said anything about it.
I'm really excited about the recall feature, i was expecting to use it in my windows machine, but it seems like I'll need to wait more, meanwhile I'll be using open recall for sure.
@UnrealProjects 1 day ago Is the AMD Ryzen 7 9700x 8core 65watt TDP have AMD Radeon 890M RDNA 3.5 built-in? Also, is AMD Ryzen 7 8700G 8Core 65watt TDP with AMD Radeon 780m embedded better in terms for gaming than AMD Ryzen 7 9700x 8core 65watt TDP?
@@Shahzad12357 considering it supports pcie 5.0 yes indeed and and does have RDNA 3.5, so the vega gpu must be the Graphics Core Next (GCN) 5th generation architecture, codenamed Vega... which should be about 39% faster than Radeon 780M in OpenCL test...
IF this prices come to EU/DE i have to wait before i buy a new (needed) system :D i actually wanted to switch to the 7950x when the 9000 series comes out. but if the 9950x has a similar price, why go for an older model? bro, thanks for the good news ;) have a nice weekend :D
Stuff like Microsoft doing crap like this is why I tell people that Windows is the biggest piece of malware/spyware you can ever install on your computer.
Something like recall is just plain wrong and a big nono in businesses where the main product is "knowledge". As for the VPN service (any vpn) it doesn't really protect anything. You are handing all your internet data to a private company.
I still dont get who is the market for consumer grade ai. I dont need not care to have assistance on stuff i can easily do myself and I literally know nobody excited for this kind of AI implementation. I feel it is more done to give a feature to move people to change stuff this generation than something useful or really desirable for moat people
The hate against Recall is so stupid. Microsoft owns the OS and could abuse that to achieve the same result. Hackers install key loggers that do the same thing. Recall runs locally and is processed by a local model, making it just as secure as the OS. This is not a reduction in security posture, yet a large improvement in productivity. But people think "oh no, it's taking a screenshot, it must be a security risk!" while forgetting that the OS rendered that screen to begin with.
So happy to see you getting MLID's info out there... he's been on a 99% correct roll for about 5 years straight! But this is from last week, so it's not new info to me... but I still like hearing about it again.. it kinda refreshes the bit of joy I get knowing what presents are gonna be under the Christmas tree :D lol But he JUST put out a new vid like an hour ago, so you might wanna check it out and maybe it'll be good enough for a video next week... I haven't watched it yet because you put more info than he does, and I wanted to hear what you had to say first. :)
I'd be okay with Microsoft releasing a 'Recall' App that you have to search for an install on your own. Sneaking a 'feature' like that in and enabling it by default is likely the scummiest data grab in the history of tech companies and that is REALLY saying something.
It runs on your own computer, not their servers. There is no data risk unless you leave your computer open and unprotected, but if you do that it would be vulnerable in any case.
@@Tugela60 Paranoi is an irrational fear. If I'm wary of an event that has happened in the past a number of times possibly happening again that is not irrational. The recent case that comes to mind as an example of just such a thing happening is the Google incognito mode settlement.
Holding onto 9700k until the 9950x3d. Or the 9900X3D if both chiplets have 3D. 12 cores, 24 threads is plenty but I don't like how the 7900X3D is slower than 7800X3D in many gaming scenarios due to not having as many 3d threads. I imagine if the 9950X3D has 3D on both chiplets, the 9900X3D will too.
GREAT TIMES FOR AMD! My concerne is more with the prices of motherboards... Another smaller one is general related to memory.... huge jumps forward in MHz, big increase in latency, and the benefit of paying much more 0,5-2%
From what i understood, Recall wouldn't work in the vast majority (99.9999%) of computers out there, since it's AI based you needed a Neural Unit (whatever the hell that is exactly) but your GPU doesn't count as one, even though GPUs have been the basis of AI for years now. So this Recall feature can't work on anyone's PC, yet why are they even talking about such a invasive feature? Microsoft is really slow at a adopting new hardware base tech like this, so it makes almost no sense they would add this into an OS when no one can use it. and no Recall wasn't going to be cloud based, it was going to be completely local (as they claim) which means it would take up a VAST amount of local storage and CPU cycles, and other resources that will bog down your PC. It's a dumb idea for many many reasons.
The tech behind 3D V-Cache is almost antithetical to the thermal headroom required to overclock effectively. CPU's are difficult to engineer, and if AMD had this down, they would most likely be shouting it from the rooftops. Being kind of quiet and squirrely about it leads me to believe that the performance jump will be about the same percentage as the previous X3D Ryzen CPU's were to their standard non-X3D counterparts. Still good, but the physics/materials limitations are still there.
Intel always has an answer to AMD when AMD one ups them. File a lawsuit claiming AMD violated one of their patents. They settle out of court in a cross licensing deal and Intel gains the use of AMD's invention. It happened with the 64 bit instruction set which AMD invented. AMD gained access to Intel's threading architecture in the process so I guess it was win win in that case.
If you are a squirrel and forget everything after 20 seconds, recall is just for you... for the rest of the world where memory still is a thing it is NOT.
Does feel like recall should be targeted at businesses and not on a machine you are browsing the internet with or doing anything personal, but even then it needs to be locked down as there is more valuable IP at play.
Imagine you type in your banking password, and maybe you think you tapped 2 buttons at the same time and you click the preview password button...boom...screenshot. Absolute idiotic idea, the other problem though is, how do we know that it doesn't secretly do it, or if it already is a thing that we don't know of. 😡
Microsoft has always emphasized that features/tests that they run on Insider builds may never actually make it into commercial release builds. Lets hope this is one of those that stays in the trash heap.
At this point, I dont even see the practical use for "double v-cache." 7000 x3d is already powerful enough, and most of the heavy lifting are GPU bound unless youre like playing on a 1080p or something. I dunno if it was possible, but I'm hoping for a better thermals/consumption during low workload because these chips can be quite inefficient for idle/small tasks. If they somehow able to address this issue, then Ryzen would be the king of chips with 0 flaws. That would be interesting to see. 😂
I'm excited for all New gen GPU releases so I can get the current gen gpus at a nice price, xdddd I'm still waiting for the 7700 XT to hit the 400€ here in spain
It takes a screen shot every 5 seconds? If it's a png file and assuming it doesn't erase older images that's enough to fill a 512 GB OS drive in less than 3 weeks
Maaan, i just got Ryzen 5 5600 like last year, i am gonna burn this one hard... and now 9000 series ??? What the flip... in what time we are suppose to use these products ?
@Gamer Meld, you can't seriously claim that using a VPN prevents your data from being stolen in a hack as your PIA promotion claims?!?!?!?! Claiming a VPN can stop data being stolen as a result of a hack attack is not only misleading, it is a direct lie. Being a tech youtuber you should know better than making such a claim.
I am more excited over the RTX 5080. Not that I will buy one but prices of other grafics cards might drop. I redently got a Ryzen 7 7700. So no need for another CPU in the next time.
Mmmm, I can't see AMD releasing the 9950X3D with 2 X3D CCD's... They would absolutely caannablize their own 9950X CPU's unless the non X3D variant has absolutely insane clock speeds with a fairly large discount to make it even remotely worthwhile over the X3D variant.
Recall is integrated into Copilot and into their $1400 Surface Snapdragon Laptop. I just watched another CZcamsr presentation about it! So no MS didn't remove it at all!
The reason "Recall" for Microsoft was bad was because the data was unencrypted, that it the real reason for the backlash. If they were to encrypt your stored data and it can only be decrypted on that PC with username and password would that make a difference? Not sure myself honestly.
The admins at Microsoft could decrypt it from the server side too. You would never have a secure machine anyway. Remember: if Microsoft makes an encryption key they can keep a copy hidden away somewhere easily.
No, them storing the database in plaintext is just the cherry on top. No one wants a screen recorder and keylogger in a searchable database, this is something a malware developer would put on a target machine.
@@Hunty49That's one vector but journos reported after testing the build the database was accessible from other user accounts. It's a half baked anti-feature.
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@GamerMeld Motorcycle riding when bruh?
"Recall" is not a problem in the EU, it is simply against the law
Why?
@@GoonyMclinux because it violates Data Protection Directive ( 95/46/EC )
@@EumlOriginalNot if users opt in.
@@Tugela60 It can't be released onto their copies of Windows without risking a lawsuit. Weird how consumer protections work, and you should vote for them.
eu is fascism.
Recall is the worst AI feature that if exploited by hackers could be detrimental to users privacy
Corporate espionage is about to get a huge boost.
The Man! The Myth! The Legend!
It's dumb for general consumers. It's a business type of ability that some company could impose on its employees not something some home user jacking it to porn wants available.
But if you are looking back for a specific gem 😂@@MrMackievelli
@@abhishekmaurya4665 true lol got to find that correct stepsister video
Recall is just an advanced version of a keylogger.
It's a screen logger!
No one is adding to the fact that you're storage is going to be filled up with the new Microsoft AI way back machine.
They said it has a limit based on total disk capacity and how much you want to store it. I think it's something like 25 GB per month, and by default it stores 3 months, unless you have a really small disk, like a 256 GB SSD. And bigger ranges were 150 GB or 300 GB, don't remember. Frankly, for this day and age, it's not THAT much. Anyway, apparently if it gets filled, the older stuff gets deleted, so it doesn't overflow over this limit.
Assuming there's no blatant lie or bug here, I'd say this is Recall's least concern.
@@Winnetou17 That's still a lot. 75GB is a ton of space. Even on a 1TB disk, that's pushing 10% of the usable drive space after formatting, for an utterly stupid feature. This feature benefits Microsoft more than it does end users.
@@MiniDevilDF True, but that being said, if you DO want the feature, the space used I'd say it's ok.
And if you DO NOT want the feature, then it's most likely not because of the space taken. In a way, it would make it even more obvious if it's on when you thought it's off.
then again theres linux... js
It might be like git, just track the changes.
The problem with recall is that even if you opt out of it, any business that have your data could have it active. So basically it's a real goldmine for any possible zero day hacks to quickly grab and go with enormous amounts of customer data, medical data, financial data, etc etc. Public computers will also be compromised.
And it's enough just a split second when you try to log in your any of your account (even your bank account..), and you just reveal the password to check it you writted it right, and a bad timeing on screenshot can easily catch that, and good luck to avoid any hacking what get that screenshot.. i know it has a small chance, but keep in mind you do it a lot of times, so it will surely catch it sometimes..
@TamasKiss-yk4st another thing, too, is that it could be used to find out patterns of behaviour by hackers to predict future movements. For example, if holiday details was pulled, then they would know when to target properties for breaking in, both homes and businesses. There are so many ways it could be used badly.
Microsoft should tighten security to a maximum before they even throw around the idea of recall, It's a huge security risk of a feature and you need the most powerful security features backing you up before even considering adding it...
If the 9950X3D gets both CCXs with 3d V-cache it means it's gonna get almost 200mb cache in total!!! I really can't make any conjectures about the impact of this in games... There has never been anything close to that in commercial CPUs.
Man, I'm waiting to get rid of my overclocked 13600K to finally upgrade my motherboard and buy a 9950x3D or 9800x3D...
wow. so so AMD mogging Intel real good now? how big the uplift is gonna be in gamerinos?
It’s not gonna make a huge impact in games because not all games benefit from 3D v cache. Also there is a limit to the amount of cache a game would utilize regardless of it benefiting from having a lot of it. AMD needs to improve both their IPC and clock speed if they want to mop the floor with Intel.
This would ultimately not be very effective or true for performance gain because the cache is across an entire ccd.
If any practical game could even use more than 8 cores effectively: getting a game to use that much cache is another problem altogether
@@ZackSNetwork they already mop the floor with intel for gaming what are you talking about? The 7800X3D is faster than the 14900k while pulling 200 watts less and also costing less WTF.
His voice doesn’t sound real😭😭😭
what if hes AI 😧
what th are you talking about...u high?
It doesn't sound real, because AI tries to sound like successful youtubers. Old mate here, is one of the people it copies. I think he is real, but a lot of the youtube AI fakes sound very much like this, because it's people like him they copy. The "Gee Wiz! We're all special!" gush ~ he's the example AI is copying, or one of them. It knows what works. Seems low key and measured and subtle isn't successful. People who advertised toothpaste and laundry detergent in the 1950s knew that ~
His mouth moves so much for the amount of words he's saying. It's like an illusion
Dang really? People used to say that they really liked my voice.
remember the times when your next pc would get better component for cheaper? those were the days..
Remember when dinosaurs roamed the earth?
Yeah around 20-30% uplift for the same price you paid last year was a nice period for GPUs. Intel stagnated gains due to no competition for CPUs, caught slacking and now scrambling to try make up for it.
@@NINJA_INVESTORS Tbat has no similarity to what the OP said. But ok.
You could grab a 3070 for $499. (which performed the same as a 2080 Ti that cost $999).
@@asmongoldsmouth9839 I upgraded my 2080 to a 7800XT, so I'm good for now. But that's still way different when you say "go grab a last gen GPU which is now discounted to upgrade your 7y old GPU.
Back then I could build a new pc for the same price (used to spend about 800ish euros, with mid tier GPU and CPU) and had a great uplift from 2/3 years prior.
Then I had to pay about 1200 for the same kind of mid tier PC. Nowadays? 1500 or bust, with a 600 bucks GPU being the mid tier category and taking almost half of the whole RIG price
Oh and I'm talking no RGB or fancy case or anything btw, or the price would be 2k+.
Recall sounds like one of the worst things ever conceived by Microsoft, and that's saying a lot.
It was run locally. Microsoft are not going to build massive server farms just to host screenshots being taken every few seconds. All that stuff would be stored on your own computer.
I been around before there was a such thing as AMD, Snapdragon and the big boy on the block was Intel headed up by Andy Grove at the time. His motto was "Only The Paranoid Survive." After he left all others were merely riding his success. They got lazy and stopped innovating thinking no one will catch them.... Now look, They're looking more and more irrelevant every single day!.... Never think you are king of the hill even after you're at the top of the hill!
Someone once told me, there's always someone trying to better you.
If you value shareholder value more than technical excellence you will lose both in the long run.
Really? You're older than 1969?
@@AndyViant
Using my AMD computer, I calculates he could be in his late 70's.
I have no problem with Recall existing, but it should be off by default and clearly indicated when it's on.
I just want to be able to uninstall things. I don't want edge or recall just being '' off ''. I don't want them on my pc at all !!!
Microsoft: *NO*
I have a problem with it existing.
when I see the basic computer skills of people like in the office I have a problem with it existing because most people handling my data in other places (like insurance corporations, hr, government agencies, doctors office, etc.) my data will be in the system within months even if I don't share them.
@@alphastratus6623 It is also a risk to the elderly, They are super gullible and are prone to scams more than anything
Re: RTX 5080 release this year... I'll believe it when I see it. So many tech rumors this year have been just flat out wrong.
Nvidia is releasing RTX 5080 1st to sell to China. Gamers in the US won’t see the card until 2025!
But there's also been a ton that were spot on. Like Ryzen 9000 specs, Ryzen AI 300 naming and specs, the RDNA 4 raytracing looks accurate, Snapdragon X Elite, and probably 100 more. There were some that were revised, but not too many I'd say were flat out wrong.
@@tringuyen7519 The only issue with that is that the US has restrictions on anything above the 4090D, so I don't even know if they'd be allowed to sell it to China.
@@GamerMeld They will tailor the 5080 to come in just under the limit. Nvidia loves selling America out to China.
@@GamerMeldI doubt the 5080 will be above the 4090D
The NSA, CIA, all other three letter agencies, and many creeps are trying to push Microsoft to keep the recall feature. 😂
They don't need recall, they have the means to dump all your hard drive whenever they want
@@reiniermoreno1653all the more reason to never use Windows or Mac for anything important.
The feds and Microsoft have been doing this for a long time already... it's just now they thought maybe they could roll it out as a feature.
@@samuelcrow4331 imagine believing Linux is secure lol
@@reiniermoreno1653 Recall gives you waaaaaaay more info compared to just what is stored on the disks currently, since its historical data. Lots of info you entered might not be stored anywhere on your PC... but Recall will save it
Last time I heard some company said they won't invade privacy riot released vanguard for league which should only do things while you are playing league, expect when i start something like Skyrim my cpu shoots up to 100% usage only when vanguard is on, so now league and vanguard are uninstalled
So theres a Total Recall of Recall? Huh(elbow nudge)
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Don't worry they'll try to ease it in as future critical security update.😆
I wish Microsoft would use AI to debloat their own system
As a senior manager, i hire developers who, in addition to core competence in programming, care and know about security.
AMD is planning to bury intel new CPU before it even gets released...
🤣🤣🤣
Eh there were other reasons the asymmetrical chips for the 7950x3d were troublesome aside from clocks. Without putting in the effort to do so various programs didn't take full advantage as it would run them either on the wrong ccd or throttle down to match the x3d since it was using both on the same task. With finagling you could side step this but your average users wouldn't go to such extremes to do so. It ended up making the 7800x3d more preferred for eas of use and desired performance behavior.
I suspect Windows insider will be very very very banned in the EU..
Apple has been doing this for years and now people are only complaining about it because Windows is doing it? And no, Apple isn't safer and off point.
The average PC user doesn't care what happens with Apple. Apple users can stay on the other side of the fence 😌
apple users are brain dead usually 99%
Apple and its users are a lost cause. They don't give a fuck about their users and their users are constantly bending over saying "yes, daddy! Take away my consumer rights! Mark it up by 300%!"
I will never voluntarily use an apple device so I don't give a whit tbh
@@spacemeter3001
Correct.
Me too.
We must check for sub processes because I can see the user side of recall being gone, but I'm scared they will sneak it back in just for capturing training data.
Windows 10 was the last decent Windows OS
and that is debatable
There has really NEVER been a good version of Windows. It's all been a nightmare for publishing software. SteamOS, anyone?
Kingpin interview over at Nexus was by far the biggest news of the year for more avid pc gamers and enthusiasts. His work is legendary and can't wait to see his work again
Privacy issues aside I would be concerned with how bloated the APPDATA folder would get in the user profile with Recall. I work in IT support for a health care company and the overwhelming majority of our 20,000+ user machines only have 250GB SSD drives. Unless Recall has a time limit or a mechanism to prune itself Recall will be a big problem if it allowed to just record data forever.
00:18 - Microsoft Recall Feature Gone
03:36 - Nvidia 5080 looks set for end of year release
04:48 - Ryzen 9000 early pricing, Ryzen 8000 price drop
07:46 - AMD making Zen5 X3D better, possible OC support.
Didnt this happen already with another company. All of the sudden, huge backlash and they backtracked, 3 months later it was implemented anyways and NO one said anything about it.
this already happened with Microsoft themselves
ReCall isn't going to be sneaking into a Windows build if you're on an X86 desktop. It only works on devices what have an ARM processor and NPU.
6:18 that said "pre-markup" not pre-market.
I'm really excited about the recall feature, i was expecting to use it in my windows machine, but it seems like I'll need to wait more, meanwhile I'll be using open recall for sure.
Those kingpin cards are so beautiful to me ❤❤❤
mmm... dual Vcache 9900X3D, I'm still holding off for Zen6...
Hey Gamer Meld, it is worth to buy motherboard with PCIE GEN 5 x16 for at least 3 years or better got cheaper 4.0 x16 ?
@UnrealProjects
1 day ago
Is the AMD Ryzen 7 9700x 8core 65watt TDP have AMD Radeon 890M RDNA 3.5 built-in? Also, is AMD Ryzen 7 8700G 8Core 65watt TDP with AMD Radeon 780m embedded better in terms for gaming than AMD Ryzen 7 9700x 8core 65watt TDP?
Qno1=no
Qno2=yes/probably
@@Shahzad12357 ..why would you think AMD Ryzen 7 8700G 8Core may be best choice over AMD Ryzen 7 9700x 8core ?
@@UnrealProjects welp you asked for igpu performance not the cpu itself
@@UnrealProjects in terms of cpu performance 9700x 8c will be miles better
@@Shahzad12357 considering it supports pcie 5.0 yes indeed and and does have RDNA 3.5, so the vega gpu must be the Graphics Core Next (GCN) 5th generation architecture, codenamed Vega... which should be about 39% faster than Radeon 780M in OpenCL test...
IF this prices come to EU/DE i have to wait before i buy a new (needed) system :D
i actually wanted to switch to the 7950x when the 9000 series comes out. but if the 9950x has a similar price, why go for an older model?
bro, thanks for the good news ;)
have a nice weekend :D
Microsoft says, "We can remember it for you wholesale."
Stuff like Microsoft doing crap like this is why I tell people that Windows is the biggest piece of malware/spyware you can ever install on your computer.
And also the reason why people snigger and smirk when you walk by! 😂
Amd should make 32c/64t zen5c for people needed more core instead of buying a threadreaper
perhaps they will? but the question is, how big such market would be?
@@betag24cn yes it depends on the demand of the market and people tends to buy 7950x because its way cheaper than buying a expensive threadreaper
I just hope the next X3D chips aren't limited to Microcenter at launch. If so: I may have to stick with Zen 4 for my next PC build.
I want to know the 9800X3D more actually...
I rather that one ccd was x3d and the other was little core
Today lets glaze amd.
Something like recall is just plain wrong and a big nono in businesses where the main product is "knowledge".
As for the VPN service (any vpn) it doesn't really protect anything. You are handing all your internet data to a private company.
Im waiting to maybe update to a 9950x3d. I hope i dont have to wait too long
I still dont get who is the market for consumer grade ai. I dont need not care to have assistance on stuff i can easily do myself and I literally know nobody excited for this kind of AI implementation. I feel it is more done to give a feature to move people to change stuff this generation than something useful or really desirable for moat people
The hate against Recall is so stupid. Microsoft owns the OS and could abuse that to achieve the same result. Hackers install key loggers that do the same thing. Recall runs locally and is processed by a local model, making it just as secure as the OS. This is not a reduction in security posture, yet a large improvement in productivity. But people think "oh no, it's taking a screenshot, it must be a security risk!" while forgetting that the OS rendered that screen to begin with.
That intro 👏
Killer thought am watching a rap song 🤣
Loved it.
9000 series price goes down as soon as they launch 3D chips. Then I might actually pick 9900X or 9950X.
They won't. The 3D chips can't compete in non game workloads, which is what the vast majority of PCs are used for.
@@Tugela60 trust me, you will see
So happy to see you getting MLID's info out there... he's been on a 99% correct roll for about 5 years straight! But this is from last week, so it's not new info to me... but I still like hearing about it again.. it kinda refreshes the bit of joy I get knowing what presents are gonna be under the Christmas tree :D lol
But he JUST put out a new vid like an hour ago, so you might wanna check it out and maybe it'll be good enough for a video next week... I haven't watched it yet because you put more info than he does, and I wanted to hear what you had to say first. :)
I'd be okay with Microsoft releasing a 'Recall' App that you have to search for an install on your own. Sneaking a 'feature' like that in and enabling it by default is likely the scummiest data grab in the history of tech companies and that is REALLY saying something.
It runs on your own computer, not their servers. There is no data risk unless you leave your computer open and unprotected, but if you do that it would be vulnerable in any case.
@@Tugela60 And you trust them? I guess I see your point, after all a tech giant would NEVER EVER wilfully breach the privacy of its users. Definitely.
@@Frosty-Res Well, if you are paranoid, I can't help you. There are professionals who can however, I suggest you make an appointment with one of them.
@@Tugela60 Paranoi is an irrational fear. If I'm wary of an event that has happened in the past a number of times possibly happening again that is not irrational. The recent case that comes to mind as an example of just such a thing happening is the Google incognito mode settlement.
The recall feature will be back, at least in some form. Stuff like this always comes back
Holding onto 9700k until the 9950x3d. Or the 9900X3D if both chiplets have 3D. 12 cores, 24 threads is plenty but I don't like how the 7900X3D is slower than 7800X3D in many gaming scenarios due to not having as many 3d threads. I imagine if the 9950X3D has 3D on both chiplets, the 9900X3D will too.
GREAT TIMES FOR AMD!
My concerne is more with the prices of motherboards...
Another smaller one is general related to memory.... huge jumps forward in MHz, big increase in latency, and the benefit of paying much more 0,5-2%
From what i understood, Recall wouldn't work in the vast majority (99.9999%) of computers out there, since it's AI based you needed a Neural Unit (whatever the hell that is exactly) but your GPU doesn't count as one, even though GPUs have been the basis of AI for years now. So this Recall feature can't work on anyone's PC, yet why are they even talking about such a invasive feature? Microsoft is really slow at a adopting new hardware base tech like this, so it makes almost no sense they would add this into an OS when no one can use it. and no Recall wasn't going to be cloud based, it was going to be completely local (as they claim) which means it would take up a VAST amount of local storage and CPU cycles, and other resources that will bog down your PC. It's a dumb idea for many many reasons.
I need an 18" all AMD laptop 9000
The tech behind 3D V-Cache is almost antithetical to the thermal headroom required to overclock effectively. CPU's are difficult to engineer, and if AMD had this down, they would most likely be shouting it from the rooftops. Being kind of quiet and squirrely about it leads me to believe that the performance jump will be about the same percentage as the previous X3D Ryzen CPU's were to their standard non-X3D counterparts. Still good, but the physics/materials limitations are still there.
Intel always has an answer to AMD when AMD one ups them. File a lawsuit claiming AMD violated one of their patents. They settle out of court in a cross licensing deal and Intel gains the use of AMD's invention. It happened with the 64 bit instruction set which AMD invented. AMD gained access to Intel's threading architecture in the process so I guess it was win win in that case.
If you are a squirrel and forget everything after 20 seconds, recall is just for you... for the rest of the world where memory still is a thing it is NOT.
Does feel like recall should be targeted at businesses and not on a machine you are browsing the internet with or doing anything personal, but even then it needs to be locked down as there is more valuable IP at play.
I was just about to upgrade from win 10 to 11 and your first story changed my mind
What a total recall!
Imagine you type in your banking password, and maybe you think you tapped 2 buttons at the same time and you click the preview password button...boom...screenshot. Absolute idiotic idea, the other problem though is, how do we know that it doesn't secretly do it, or if it already is a thing that we don't know of. 😡
Intel may just raise the clocks of Arrow Lake to the sky just to compete ... and create more instability and CPU degradation ... LOL
Microsoft has always emphasized that features/tests that they run on Insider builds may never actually make it into commercial release builds. Lets hope this is one of those that stays in the trash heap.
heard all these already on google news
*October 2024 for RTX 5080. I wonder if I have to keep saying this until October. LoL!!*
They already announced it wont be better than the 7800x3D i think these are all for work loads and not gaming.
its strange that microsoft wanted to implement their new feature, what if the ai sees me watching adult videos? what would happen?
One of the best channels to get a recap of tech news related to PC hardware.
If they dont make a version without Recall, im using 10 until possible and then Linux.
At this point, I dont even see the practical use for "double v-cache." 7000 x3d is already powerful enough, and most of the heavy lifting are GPU bound unless youre like playing on a 1080p or something.
I dunno if it was possible, but I'm hoping for a better thermals/consumption during low workload because these chips can be quite inefficient for idle/small tasks.
If they somehow able to address this issue, then Ryzen would be the king of chips with 0 flaws. That would be interesting to see. 😂
...and AMD is doing it with lower TDP's running cooler than those hotboxed Intel chips
Noooo recall was so good and useful and has no security risk as its on device not cloud
I'm excited for all New gen GPU releases so I can get the current gen gpus at a nice price, xdddd I'm still waiting for the 7700 XT to hit the 400€ here in spain
Hello No Microsoft! My wife's butt is always on my wallpaper so I can't let that happen... 🤣 😂...
The app runs locally, so it will just have many images of her butt on your hard drive.
It takes a screen shot every 5 seconds? If it's a png file and assuming it doesn't erase older images that's enough to fill a 512 GB OS drive in less than 3 weeks
Maaan, i just got Ryzen 5 5600 like last year, i am gonna burn this one hard... and now 9000 series ???
What the flip... in what time we are suppose to use these products ?
Your own time, if you need the best you’d buy the best, if your 5600 is powerful enough for your needs then you save your money for years
We need something like x3d from amd in GPU department.
I care for the pricing 3 months after the x3d versions get released 😁
Why doesnt AMD just give each core or set of cores its own 3dv cache?
5080 ... but if they have to be slim. not 3.5 wide ....5080 2slot 2.5 max wide would be perfect
Last week AMD is cooked, this week Intel is cooked. Next week, BBQ is cooked.
@Gamer Meld, you can't seriously claim that using a VPN prevents your data from being stolen in a hack as your PIA promotion claims?!?!?!?! Claiming a VPN can stop data being stolen as a result of a hack attack is not only misleading, it is a direct lie. Being a tech youtuber you should know better than making such a claim.
could care less about the 5080 fact is people keep paying those prices is why Nvidia keeps getting away with those over priced cards!!
I'm hoping to see the 7000 series drop in price.
I am more excited over the RTX 5080.
Not that I will buy one but prices of other grafics cards might drop.
I redently got a Ryzen 7 7700. So no need for another CPU in the next time.
VPNs are not a security feature.
Mmmm, I can't see AMD releasing the 9950X3D with 2 X3D CCD's...
They would absolutely caannablize their own 9950X CPU's unless the non X3D variant has absolutely insane clock speeds with a fairly large discount to make it even remotely worthwhile over the X3D variant.
That title though. Zen5 will have no answer for ARL.
8000g still overpriced. Drop from last gen levels makes no sense for 9xxx. Instead that drop should be for 8xxx.
10:33 10:33 the sweet sound of horrible eevvveerr ❤
Is that Halo API not the new Xbox releasing 2026?
Sadly since the D3D CPU is comming later i wont buy a new cpu yet :(
Recall is integrated into Copilot and into their $1400 Surface Snapdragon Laptop. I just watched another CZcamsr presentation about it! So no MS didn't remove it at all!
I dont know what makes people think that Microsoft didn't already have "recall" working "under the hood"... also that it is not gone...
Microsoft, giving user things they never wanted. ™
The reason "Recall" for Microsoft was bad was because the data was unencrypted, that it the real reason for the backlash. If they were to encrypt your stored data and it can only be decrypted on that PC with username and password would that make a difference? Not sure myself honestly.
The admins at Microsoft could decrypt it from the server side too. You would never have a secure machine anyway. Remember: if Microsoft makes an encryption key they can keep a copy hidden away somewhere easily.
It was only encrypted while you were logged out or powered off. If you were logged in and someone remotes into your PC they could see it all.
No, them storing the database in plaintext is just the cherry on top. No one wants a screen recorder and keylogger in a searchable database, this is something a malware developer would put on a target machine.
@@Hunty49That's one vector but journos reported after testing the build the database was accessible from other user accounts. It's a half baked anti-feature.