What's The BEST Engine for the 2022 Ford F-150 Truck? EcoBoost vs V8 | Exhaust, Drive and Compare
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- 👋 Do you want a V8 in your pickup truck? Let's put the 2022 Ford F-150 EcoBoost head to head with the 5.0L V8 Coyote motor! I know not everyone likes a V6 with twin turbos under the hood of a legendary American pickup truck, but Ford puts the 3.5L V6 EcoBoost in a good majority of their F-150 trucks. The 5.0L V8 is the standard engine tho and is a bit cheaper too. So does the V8 have more to offer than the EcoBoost? Lets compare the 2022 Ford F150 equipped with the EcoBoost vs the V8 and see what is the best engine for the 2022 Ford F150 truck?!
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0:00 Intro
1:01 Engine Specs
2:47 Exhaust Comparison
3:51 EcoBoost Test Drive
7:02 V8 Test Drive
12:24 Conclusion
What's The BEST Engine for the 2022 Ford F-150 Truck? EcoBoost vs V8 | Exhaust, Drive and Compare
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Very simple. If you tow near maximum go 3.5. If you want to keep the truck 10+ years go 5.0. If you tow once in a blue moon and keep your vehicles 6+ years go 5.0
Yeah I can agree with that for sure
The 5.0L has my vote. I'm probably bias because I own one, but I have zero complaints. I've test driven the Ecoboost trucks and they are nice make no mistake, but I just love a good V8 and the 5.0L is a great one.
Yeah it's cool to have that V8 aspect for sure. Really does make the truck have more of that old school feeling
@@BrosFOURRSpeed yeah, was at a red light the other day and a guy was next to me in his mustang. The light went green and he took off and drowned out my radio haha. Took a while before he got far enough ahead of me before I could hear my radio again!!
I bought a 2021 with the 5.0 V8 instead of the twin turbo with the thinking there will be less to break having a classic V8. After my purchase I found out that the new 5.0 V8s have cylinder deactivation 🤕. I hope I didn’t make a mistake… 20k miles so far and my fingers are crossed.
@@cliffmorrison1130 Good luck, I hope Ford figured the weak links in the GM and Ram cylinder deactivation and corrected it in their own version. Perhaps someday in the near future a tune will become available so you can deactivate it.
@@cliffmorrison1130 my V8 is on order. The word is Sport and Tow Haul modes turn off CD. Won’t help gas mileage though….
This is a a real review:
I had a 2017 3.5 eco….Kept up on maintenance constantly and still ended up having issues. Low miles. After 80k miles… it was over. Traded for a 2022 5.0…. Love it. Feels like a truck. Not a large car! My opinion: 5.0L
Thanks for sharing! I guess just depends on what you prefer but most people would take the V8!
I bought my new 2021 f150 XLT 302A with FX4 and sport package last December and eventhough I tested both trucks, I went with the 5.0l with no hesitation. What I like about the ecoboost is that I have the choice to go powerboost and get that generator. If I ever trade my 5.0... I'll get the powerboost. So far I LOVE the 5.0 and how it runs. I also own a 2004 mustang cobra so yeah I'm a V8 guy.
The powerboost is really cool for sure! Can't really go wrong with any of the engines. But the V8 certainly is a classic way to go!
You can get the generator in the Fx4 👍
@@brandonmacon3317 How can I do that?
Just bought a 150 v8 today. Had problems with turbos in the past very expensive to repair replace. One less thing to worry about I want a truck to last 10 years with minimal problems . My last ford did that's why I bought another . Thanks ford motor company for making products that stand the test of time. Brian
Those V8's are certainly bulletproof!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed
some of them are, not all
Got a 2022 Ford F-150 XLT with tow package that has 14,000 lbs. Tow capacity
Eco V6 10 speed transmission,
Really appreciate the power to tow 27 ft camper with no issues.
Had 2013 Platinum with eco boost towed great also
My reason with staying with Eco boost motor was the mpg on daily driving
Oh nice! Great option for sure!
Was it a 3.5 or 2.7?
@@ReynoldsRedBrangus 2.7 can't tow 14k.
I have a 21 5.0. I absolutely love it. It has a 3.73 rear end. I pull 6-8K quite a bit and it does it flawlessly. Now I can say this with 3.73 gears and 93 octane I’ve gotten 5.6 to 5.8 0-60. And it keeps pulling. It doesn’t seem like it runs out of power on the top end either. If I didn’t have a f250 on order I would most definitely be tuning and possibly supercharging it. It has a ton of potential.
Oh nice! Very solid motor for sure in a truck like this. Supercharging it would be awesome! I've seen a lot of people do that
Maybe some headers, cai and port the intake manifold and that's probably another 40hp right there without really sacrificing fuel economy.
Wow!! What do you do for q living If you dont mind. Me asking
What kinda gas mileage do you normally get with the 3.73 gears?
Put E85 in it u will see 5 secs flat
Great review video ! I own a 2016 Ford F150 with the 5.0 V8 and soo far no issues she's been pretty reliable, the price of gas today can get thirsty but @ least it will not be a headache when it comes to repairs down the road.
Thanks! Yeah it's a solid motor for sure! The V6 wouldn't really be any better on gas tho at least
If you haven’t done it yet get ready to replace the water pump after 60,000 miles. It’s a fairly common failure point. Bearings went in my 15 at that mileage.
@@scottyV1000 yea those v8 pumps fail early
I'm so glad Ford still offers a 5.0 NA engine; how refreshing in today's day and age. When my current truck dies, I'm going with the 5.0.
Yeah it is! Nice to see a normal solid V8
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I actually wish they'd do a hybrid. Take my money!
Back in 2016ish I bought a 2015 f150 and felt it had no power at all a few months later some hit me and I bought another but with the eco boost and man it was way better
Ecoboost works for me had two others before this hybrid have been great and plenty of power with good fuel mileage.
Yeah thats a great option for sure!
new 2023 5.0 Lariat FX4 this month. Great deals and interest rates!!!! Purchased from Hilbish Ford in Kannapolis.....Will not comment on my experiences at Mooresville or Statesville, will only say that I had a fantastic experience at Hilbish and got a quick, super good deal!! Loved the comparison. Great job!! I did watch before we purchased and again today.
Considering purchasing a F 150 v8 coming from a tacoma and previous owner of a 2020 3.0 duramax Silverado .
How would these trucks compare ? I’ve never driven or owned a Ford pick up
the 3.5 EB is my choice and just ordered a king ranch. 3rd gen EB already fixed a list of problems, and offers better power and towing capacity- i will haul and tow quite a bit
Oh thats nice to hear! Yeah towing is about the same on these
After my defective oil burning 5.0, I’m going back to 3.5
I have been purchasing F150' since the 80's. I was always a Big V8 guy but in 2015 I purchased the 3.5 EcoBoost & I'll never go back to the V8 unless I had to. The EcoBoost is very powerful & reliable...no problems ever and have 144,826 on at thr moment
Oh yeah? Cool to hear! Great truck for sure
Sport mode on my 2022 5.0 F150 seems to hold lower gears in the 10 speed, in turn keeping the engine in higher rpm range for quicker acceleration. I keep mine in "Eco" mode 95% of the time. It has a cylinder deactivation system but I don't ever feel the transition and not much information as to how it actually functions. 80 miles daily mixed driving commute and my average at 8k miles is 22 mpg in my supercrew FX4. I cruise at 70 for about half my commute but don't hammer it from lights etc. I'm extremely satisfied with my truck. My '15 Explorer Sport Ecoboost averages 16-18 in same scenario but has AWD and 6 speed transmission. Quicker off the line but the 5.0 is a "revvy" engine and loves RPMs and pulls hard when you hit the sweet spot. Same feeling as the 15 Mustang GT I sold. I prefer 5.0.
One of the most unbiased and honest reviews I have watched. I had a 2010 with the 5.4L gutless fuel pig. Ordered a 2016 5L for simplicity and immediately noticed the bottom end lag. Practically no bottom end, dead below 3K. In 2017 I tried the 2.7 which was a great efficient commuter, lacked power towing. Ordered a 2020 FX4 with 3.5L and wow! Bottom end torque for days and decent economy. Like you said drop a $500 5 Star tune in it and you have another 50-60HP in ten minutes. I just ordered my 2023 with another 3.5L Ecobeast. I thought about the 5L and adding the Whipple charger, but those are over 8K now and require a weekend of labor w/ warranty issues. 5L has simplicity and sound, but after 200k of Ecoboost ownerwhip I have faith. Even after going through the cam phaser issues.
A supercharged 5.0 would definitely be ideal for some power! But the 3.5 to me is a great choice especially after a tune! Enjoy your truck!
I haven't owned a Ford Ecoboost but am interested in a F150 with the 3.5L. Is it quieter than the 5L? I want a quiet ride for travel. Also can you explain what cam phaser issues you've had? Thx!
@@dantimber Ford replaced my phasers under warranty. I assume the new design addressed the issue. The V6 is super quiet with a touch of turbo whistle. Much quieter than the V8 which sounds like a Mustang.
@@RinconPilot Thank you! Much appreciated. I'm excited to order a 3.5!
Did you do anything or just add a tune?
Lots of questions on gear ratio for these pickups. The only way these two have the same gear ratio is if they are both 3.31 which is very popular. At that point the 5.0 is rated for 9400 and the Ecoboost is rated for 11300. At max tow the Ecoboost has 3.55 and 5.0 has 3.73 and Ecoboost is 13900 and 5.0 is 13000. I go with Ecoboost due to towing in the mountains. The turbos with forced induction lose much less power than the NA 5.0.
Both can tow about 13k lbs. Found different info from Ford before filming unfortunately. I would assume they have the sam gear ratios since they were both FX4 and 4X4. but I cannot 100% confirm
@@BrosFOURRSpeed the only way they are both around 13000 is if they are max tow. Ecoboost at max tow has 3.55 and 5.0 has 3.73. The Ecoboost only comes with 3.73 with the HDPP or in the Tremor trim.
Yeah the max capabilities of these engines is around that mark. Has to be quipped with the right tow package of course
Bad info Bobby, the V8 out performs the Ecoboost hands down. Go save a tree, tree hugger, I'll be out easily climbing mountains with my Airstream and burning as MUCH gas as possible. Hahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@peterjones4621 way off Petey. The Ecoboost burns more fuel towing and will fly by you and your airstream going up the mountains. For a couple reasons. Turbos negate most of the power loss at elevation and the Ecoboost has 100 more pounds of torque. But the that V8 helps you feel like a man I suppose.
I've had both the v8 and ecoboost. I much prefer the v8, feels so much better to drive
Yeah it does have that smooth N/A engine power which is nice
Thing is, which one is the better truck? Well, the Ecoboost has 90 more pounds of torque, which can be tuned for even more. So that ecoboost may not sound like an old truck, but is the better performer.
Hi, just purchased a 22 with a 3.5 ecoboost. But mine I have noticed a little bit of shudder when I’m parked. It feels like the idle shudders. I’m not sure if you have noticed that on those 3.5L. But overall the trucks drives smooth. Just wondering why it does that. I used to have a 2018. And idle was very quite. I couldn’t tell the truck was on. I took it to dealer and found no issues. Also we cranked on other 3.5 on the lot and they were doing the same thing. Note : the 5.0 does not shudder when on. I did notice that. It dosent do it.
Every ford ecoboost I’ve ever been in has this same issue at idle. My dad and I both have the 3.5 ecoboost and my wife has a ford edge with the 2.0 ecoboost that does the same thing. I have no clue why. It’s annoying, but hasn’t seemed to cause any problems.
I have been a v8 guy forever but my 22 has the ecobeast love if you drive easy 24 mpg but when you get on it its awesome
The 3.5 litre twin turbo charged V6 ECOBOOST is great
It is a good motor for sure!
I have a 2021 F150 5.0 and when its under a load and hits about 3,000rpms it make a racket on the driverside engine bank. They replaced the heads due to oil consumption and the noise it still there. Could you tell me if this one had that noise???? Thanks in advance!
It’s prob just normal for the five oh
Have a 2011 XLT with eco boost. Now have 257000 miles and never had one engine problem. Live in northern michigan where extreme cold can stress a vehicle.
No rust either!? Pretty impressive!
I’m waiting for my 2021 with 2k miles on it. 5.0 v-8. 4x4 crew cab white. Love ❤️ it. I’m waiting for home delivery 🚚
Oh cool! Great truck to buy for sure!
Q. What is the standard gallon tank size for the XL 2021 5.0 V-8. I’m waiting for truck delivery
I believe 26 is standard, and 36 is optional. Only for Crew Cab tho I think
5.0l has my vote in reliability and sound.
3.5l has my vote in smoothness, low end power, mpg and supossely they changed some parts to make it a long term reliable engine (if you take care of it) I mean the 3.5 was a fairly new engine when issues stared popping... now its been around for like 10 years, vs the 5.0 that has been around for ever.. you master things with time, by now its pretty much proven as long as you take care of it and it will only get better with time.... by the way mpg on the 5.0 will be way lower than the eco if towing since it produces its torque on the top end...
That 5.0 is nothing like the 8 of old, variable valve timing, spray coating on piston walls, cylinder deactivation, and dual injection.
Ecoboost for me, unless you you wanna hold to your truck for 20 years, you might wanna stick with v8. But having that,that Ecoboost is a beat!!
I agree with that! I'd rather drive the EcoBoost, but once it's into the 100k range i'd want to trade it for a new one again lol.
You have to pay attention when purchasing to get Tow Package which changes the gearing adds additional cooling to give Eco Beast the edge
Yeah, most towing packages add that which is nice.
You're right and you're wrong. It depends on what trim you start out with the 5.0 is not the base engine for the XL through the lariat the base engine for the lariat is the 2.7 and for the XL and XLT the 3.3 if you have any of the trims where the 5.0 is not the base engine you do have to pay extra to get the 5.0 but it is available
You're right, when I ordered my 2020 Lariat the 2.7 was the base engine at no charge.
Ecoboost all the way for me! All about torque.....I'd rather hear turbos spool than that old schoolv8 sound.
Thanks for sharing! Different engines for different preferences!
I traded in my 2016 Platinum 3.5L Ecoboost for a 2023 XLT 5.0L V8. My '16 served me well for 136K miles.. But I did have coolant leakage around the passenger side turbo which cost about $1200 to fix. This came at about 110K miles. I don't have a heavy foot, so the low end acceleration and power differences are not really noticeable for me. I am indifferent to 0-60 timing. While I've only had the '23 for a few days, I really like the simplicity of the V8 and am looking forward to towing my 5000 pound trailer to see how it does.
Thanks for sharing! Both are great just depending on what you need!
Ford has screwed around with the 5.0 too much the last couple of years. Putting the cylinder cut-out on them is just the final nail in the 5.0 coffin. I owned two Chevys pre-cylinder deactivation with no problems but the ones I owned afterwards never made it to 300,000 and I put 60k a year on for work. A chum of mine is the service manager at a Ford dealer and he told me not to get the 5.0 now where before it was opposite. He's knows whats coming in and filling his shop.
Switched over to a Ford and no problems but I recently bough a 3.5 and its been great.
I know Eco-Boom was a problem but they seem to have fixed the kinks in the turbo's.
I've gotten 2 new F150's and they both have been with the 5.0 engines, I wouldn't have it any other way. That's just my preference and in my opinion is how a truck should sound especially with the Borla Atak exhaust system I got this time.
It's a solid motor and sounds great! Can't go wrong
Borla Atak is obnoxious, sloppy, annoying raspy shit. Much better off with deep & rich toned sound such as AWE.
Loud exhaust is for small wiener dudes.
Coming from a 6.2 Denali, I decided to switch to ford. I test drove the powerboost first and was completely unimpressed. It felt like a Honda civic. The 5.0 felt significantly better to me - and although it has less power than the 6.2 I’m coming from, it still feels more in line with that I’d expect.
Glad that's a good fit for you!
i got a 2022 F150 V8 Fx4 Package and i love it.
Sweet!
The 3.5 EcoBoost does just fine when towing. There’s basically zero turbo lag. The earliest ones (2011 timeframe) made you wait a second or two, but not the newer ones. Longevity is an open question……
and it does have slightly higher towing at 14K properly equipped.
I enjoyed how quiet the 3.5 was and that’s what I ended up getting. 2022 larait
Yeah its very refined feeling. Great choice
On my second F-150 with the Ecoboost, definitely prefer the twin turbo. I do miss the exhaust note of the V8 though.
Yeah I love the sound too. But the turbo really has that torque to make it nice to drive
Now, I'm sure you understand if you want to play rough notes , you just have to pipe it up (simple exhaust exchange pipes (not the entire line) for literally a few hundred $ 'bucks (depending on the system of course) Anyway., not too much overall---- ( but go "experienced" pro. Never just the closest guy to your place out of "convenience" ")
@@BrosFOURRSpeed
and tow
Yup had the 5l, great engine!! But for towing my 28ft travel trailer you can't beat the ecoboost!!
My family and friends who bought a 3.5 (2011 and a 2017) have put thousands into them. The older one put turbos in and the newer one had a wobbled out crankshaft keyway and turbo problems and had to junk the motor. No thanks. V8 for me. I went F250 6.2 and its a sweet heart of an engine and with the 4.30 rearend its fairly quick but not great on gas. If it wasn't for the frontend giving me the death wobble at 17k miles it would have been the perfect truck.
Oh dang. Yeah the old school V8 is just so simple to work with.
Totally agree. I wasn’t impressed with the durability with these newer f150’s, so I went with a f350 6.2 liter. It has 4:30 gears, a Banks power pedal monster, and also a custom tune from 5 star performance. It runs pretty darn well! Who cares about mileage, it’s a truck! 😉
I have a 2019 f150 xlt with a 5.0 v8 10 speed auto. 70,000 miles and no regrets. 17 mpg in town 21 highway on 93 octane. Better performance and mileage on the higher octane. Also drive a 2022 bronco 2dr with 2.3 auto. My two favorite vehicles ever and I've had a bunch at 80 years old.
What are the axle ratios in the trucks? That makes a big difference in acceleration
I think they were actually the same. Can't remember
I had a 2.7 eco boost that had 200000 miles with really no major issues also had a 2011 5.0 that also was great but the 5.0 had a little bit of a strange shake to it but also no major issues
Seems pretty good for the EcoBoost!
I have just purchased an XLT with 5.0 V8. I had the option if the Ecoboost, but no. I have also ordered Rousch gear - Supercharger , Exhaust, Air Intake and Suspension kit. Cannit wait to get it with allvthe Rousch gear 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks for sharing! That should be fun to drive!
I’m looking at getting a truck & I’m torn between getting the F150 3.7 Eco or the 5.0 V8.
I won’t be towing very often, it’s just gonna be my daily driver.
Which option would be better if I want one with the least amount of mechanical issues?
I’ve heard Ecos have a better lifespan due to V8s pumps failing early.
From what I've seen the turbos go out on the ecoboost, never heard of any V8 issues. Hopefully some owners can chime in on this, I wouldn't get either one, so I'm not the one to ask lol. If I had to though...probably the V8.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I ended up getting a Toyota Tacoma lol
I have a 2019 with a Coyote...and it's served me well!
Glad you enjoy it!
I had the 2020 3.5 awsome motor.
But I couldn't trust all that power coming from a small engine block.
The 3.5 also blew away some dodge hemi's.
I now have the 5.0 V8 that I really like and plenty of power, tows my 20' enclosed trailer like it isn't there.
Both engines on a rolling start are great
Just depends on what works best for the buyer!
I own the 2022 Ford eco boost v6 it’s a beast !
Thanks for sharing!
The Ecoboost with the Max Tow package can tow 14k lbs. And the Raptor is the worst F-150 for towing, because of its off-road setup, so comparing your Raptor towing experience does not apply to the normal Ecoboost F-150. Ford considers the 3.5L Ecoboost as its premier towing 1/2 ton for a reason. You should really research this if you're making reviews and influencing people.
His research is just fine hot head. The twin turbo gets HOT, really HOT, chances for it causing a very expensive repair in the future is very possible. V8 ALL THE WAY.
@@peterjones4621 After owning many v8's and currently owning the ecoboost with the Max Tow package, my real-life research tells me the ecoboost is the better towing experience. You're not going to get the torque down low on a v8 which is what makes the ecoboost a better experience. I love v8's, but they don't tow better than the ecoboost, unless you go diesel (which also use turbos). Putting twin turbos on a coyote is an option that I would love, but not very practical.
You're right turbos get hot, but people that are educated and have towed with the ecoboost knows to lock out the overdrive gears to keep the rpm's higher, which limits the use of the turbos and keeps the engine cooler by circulating more coolant.
As far as reliability turbos will wear out faster than NA, so just replace them when they do. If you can't part with a couple of thousand dollars every 150k-200k miles, then you should stick with V8's. For me the better experience for all those miles is worth the maintenance of turbos.
You're 100% right, and it's even more pronounced (the towing differences) at altitude
Agreed if your gonna review it get it right lol
@@peterjones4621 just a couple thousand miles later, knock knock knock you hear in your mornings from that engine (not saying it breaks, but a small engine knock will be noticed)
I bought a 2022 Ford F150 a month ago, the only ones they had on the car lot were 3.5s. I wanted a V8 but they didn't have any. The sales lady said, "well at least you'll get 4 more mpg".
I can agree but how do you drive lol 😂
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@@mataale97 I get a solid 18.0 mpg.
That’s on paper. I’ve had both engines and I get a consistent 19 mpg with the 5.0 on 87 octane while I found I got the best mileage using 89 octane in the eco and it varied from 16 to 18 mpg while I had it. That’s more expensive in the long run.
I just bought my 3.5 2022 it’s pretty quick but I’m done with turbo stuff as I had a 19 2.7 tuned it was a headache… I just bought the truck 1 day ago and at 75 miles in I hit the gas and blew both turbos and wastegate actuators at the same time SOO f250 here I come lmao
Wow that's crazy to hear! The diesel in the F250 is a beast! Good way to go!
I call bs.
@@stevendavies1496 yea that story smells like a bag of rotted fish
I tow quite a bit, so I’m going for the V8. Upgrade the exhaust and intake and you may squeeze a few more ponies out of the coyote and it will sound even better!
Yeah that will feel better with towing. Both trucks actually can tow about the same weight. I was wrong on that. But I like how a V8 feels for that
Most people say the 3.5 is way better for towing with all the low end torque, doesn't have to go as high to get the power as the 5.0.
@@garys2157 that’s true. In fact highest tow rating is with the 3.5 eco boost. That engine has had various problems since its inception. A lot of them Ford has fixed or redesigned. Now the big problem is cold start up rattle that’s caused by the cam phasers. Ford is fixing them under a certain mileage but they’re replacing them with the same parts as opposed to a redesigned part. It makes you wonder what’s next. The 5.0 hasn’t been totally trouble free but it’s been a fairly solid engine. On an interview with Ford mechanics, 7 out of nine said they would choose the 5.0. It’s simpler. Less to go wrong!
@@markreams3192 3.5 EcoBoost with 500 lbs.torque is made for towing. Over coyote
Headers, cai, and port the manifold and you would be doing good!!
I've owned both and like both for different reasons. I currently have a 22 5.0 but overall prefer the ecoboost. Definitely love the sound of the V8 with an exhaust on it. No 6 cylinder can compare in that department.
Yeah I can agree with that. Love the V8 sound! But the EB does seem much more peppy around town
@@BrosFOURRSpeed definitely more peppy around town with better fuel mileage across the board, but it's only about 3 mpg better so really not a huge deal. My boss has a Raptor R and he's yet to even hit 10 mpg. 😂
in exchange, you can hear turbo spool and blow off valve .. lol. i prefer the twin turbos. came from a 5.0 to the 3.5
Definitely go with the 5.0
I have the 3.5 ecoboost and live at 5k feet above sea level. Ecoboost requires 87 octane and regular at this altitude is 85 octane. The naturally aspirated engines like the 5.0 can run 85 with no issues. You’ll save money on fuel and you’ll get all the power, reliability, and sound from the 5.0
But at that sea level the V8 is probably making even less power. Turbo engines can work at high levels easy without loosing power. I don't think a few cents in gas really adds up to make any sort of difference that makes it or breaks it. If you average 15 MPG and drive 10k miles in a year. If you save even 30 cents per gallon. Thats just $200 bucks in a whole year. That's $16 a month. I don't think anyone is hurting to save $16 a month. 3.5 will give you much more out of your $50k truck and make that price of the truck much more worth it's value then having a boggy V8 that high
At 5k my EB runs flawlessly on regular here.....which is 87.
The higher you go the less hp the 5L makes.
The EB performs much better at elevation....just the facts
I would have bought a gen 4 coyote but it has a wet rubber belt in the motor in oil so that's why i didn't buy it but i have a 2021 3.5 and i do really like it hopefully i don't have any problems
Is that something that's been an issue with it?
I haven't heard of issues with 2.7 and 5.0 with rubber belts the 1.0 Ecoboost have issues
3.5 if I don’t plan to own it for long. 5.0 if I want to keep it in the family for at least a decade
You don’t think the 3.5 will last?
I have a 2012 F150 with Ecoboost. Am really satisfied with over all ride an PERFORMANCE, getting 18 around town 25 on open road.
Oh nice!
I thought that the high output 3.5 eco boost could be had with a 14K plus tow capacity? I think one has to have the max tow package and the high output to get that? I think the high output 3.5 also produces 450HP.
Yeah they can both actually tow about the same. The standard EB is 400hp. The Raptor I wasn't comparing
I’m very happy w/ my 2022 f150 3.5l eco and really super happy w/ the FX4 and max tow packages it’s got. I would never buy any engine in its early production years, especially a turbo, but Ford has long since worked out all issues since 2017 and it’s a great engine. As I understand the turbos are NOT an issue w/ this engine, especially if you keep on top of your oil, air filter and coolant replacement intervals. The question is do you like v8 exhaust more or superior power more?
Anybody know what the payload rating is for the 3.5 crewcab?
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Here is my full review of the King Ranch with the 3.5. I mention payload in the vid
He got the max towing capacity wrong. He said it's around 10,000 lbs for the ecoboost. That's true for the 2.7L ecoboost, but he's showing the 3.5L ecoboost. The 3.5L has a max towing capacity of 14,000 lbs. That might have changed his analysis a bit.
Yeah they are both around that 14k mark. Saw somewhere with the specs I said. But that still would change my opinions lol. I like the EcoBoost power for sure better
How do you decide lol..if looking for my first truck.. had my mind on 3.5L ..but I was thinking the V8 might be cheaper along the way as far as repairs is concerned. It's tough.. if it's just 1 mpg difference than maybe the 5.0L . Great video
My same exact thoughts
I think you got your towing numbers mixed up. The Ecoboost has the higher towing rating of the two. It is the flagship motor and will out tow the 5.0 any day of the week.
Yeah the EcoBoost is a bit better with both around 13k to 14k
@@BrosFOURRSpeed a lot better
Definitely go with the 5 L coyote.
Great reliability .
Yeah cant argue with that!
Which one would you pick between the two for just driving wouldn’t really use it for truck things haha
EcoBoost. It has more power which makes it more fun to drive. If money wasnt an issue I'd buy the V8 and put a supercharger on it ;)
The 2.7 is the gem of the bunch. It’s built from ground up with Turbos in mind and has a mostly CGI block like the power stroke. It’s overbuilt to hell and the 2nd gen version (2018) has already proved to be very reliable.
I should definitely check that one out and see how it compares
The 2.7 is a great engine! I had one in my 18 and bought another 2.7 for my 21. Great power for everyday driving, and light towing. I do find myself wanting more for towing my new 27’ trailer. I’ll likely order a 3.5 when the 23 factory orders open up.
Good luck at 70 k miles . Dump that piece of junk before then
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My last two V8s 5.3 gmc and 5.7 hemi both had to have lifters and cams changed before 70k so what’s your point.
@@fjoco1 my point is I didn’t buy a hemi or gmc. It’s all about the design .I get it . I have had some crummy engines
I still go with that classic v8. Sounds like how a truck should sound like. I feel like the v8 will hold up better 200k miles or more than all the wear from two turbos in the ecoboost.
It'd be interesting to see. The 5.0 is pretty rock solid and really won't get worked hard in this truck. I'm sure it will outlast the V6
If you plan to hold on to the truck that long. Research shows average length people own pickups are 3-4 years.
If I was towing though, Id go with the v6, the torque is crucial! I’ve towed with both, and even though the 5.0 sounds better, the 3.5l is my preferred choice.
@@SkyViewAerialProductions yeah I wouldn’t be towing much at all and if I did, it probably would be will within the limits for v8. I’d mostly be using my truck for camping and daily driving.
@@Trevorl-fo7vr if I’m spending upwards of 50k on a truck, I’m keeping for way longer than 4 years. Want my damn grandkids to drive it.
I Loved The EcoBoost But The 5.0L Coyote V8 Is All You Get But You Can't Go Wrong With These Engines.
Yeah they are both pretty cool for sure with what they offer
I’ve had a 2018 F150 king ranch with a 3.5 and I loved it I traded and got a 2020 F150 king ranch with the 5.0 and it felt a bit sluggish before I had it tuned by 11 eyes and put a J LT intake end it was faster than the 3.5
Oh yeah? I'm sure the 5.0 can wake up a bit with a tune. But the 3.5 with a tune is even faster then the 5.0 could ever be. Impressive with what a turbo engine can do after a tune
@@BrosFOURRSpeed the 3.5 is faster to begin with than a five oh
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It’s sad that buying the v8 you have to get a tune on it to begin to make power
Faster not even with a tune.
He’s talking about the high output 3.5 ecoboost the normal 3.5 ecoboost can tow up to 14,000 lbs vs the 5.0 that can pull 13,000 lbs
Yeah these two trucks can both tow about 13k lbs. Was wrong on that
My Favourite Ford F-150 V8
Yeah it's great to see the V8!
Love The V8 Exhaust Note
Oh yeah! Mustang in a truck!
Towing with turbo charging is a huge advantage when in higher altitudes compared to natural aspiration.
I have a 3.5 ECO and have no issues towing my 5000 pound camper fully loaded
OH nice. Well max towing is 13k lbs. So I'd hope 5k is easy lol. I misspoke in the vid on towing
I'd rather go 5.0 and supercharge it. I have a platinum 3.5 eco boost myself but if I could reorder my platinum instead of just buying one off the lot like I did I would order with the 5.0 for the sound and the fact that I could supercharge the engine.
That'd be sweet to have that setup! Luckily there is a lot to do on the aftermarket with the V8 if you add forced induction. You could tune the EcoBoos tho. Won't be like a SC V8, but at least thats something
@@BrosFOURRSpeed With the chip shortage it would be hard to get that truck. I saw a pic of F150's just sitting there waiting to be finished. It looked like they were sitting on a hill. I love my eco boost and I'm happy with it. I just wish I had the sound of the V8.
Wayne: I'm in that boat right now. Been waiting on a Raptor, and the price just went up: my build was delayed until April, and b/c it's a stock order, the price increased by $3300 (was not price protected by Ford). I live at 6500 ft above sea level, do not tow, and go down to sea level and back up a couple of times a month on 3 hour drives. I miss the sound of the flat plane crank V8 in my Shelby GT350, and I am seriously considering scrapping the Raptor and getting a fully loaded Platinum (will hopefully be a better long distance driver, although I'm not sure given that the Gen3 Raptor now has coil overs in the rear), with the FX4 package and the 5.0 engine with a 3.73 gear ratio. I think that should give me more than enough passing power, even with the power loss at altitude with a NA engine. The main question: has Ford solved the engine oil burn issue in the 2018-20202 models
@@SigAXG320 ford fixed the issue with oil burning, they said it was normal, case closed😳
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Seriously, right ? So I now have my 2022 Raptor - had it almost 4 months. Love it …. Best DD vehicle I’ve perhaps ever owned. Problem is my lack of faith in this engine/transmission. A part of me is thinking of selling it by next spring/summer, and getting a GMC 1500 with the 3.0 duramax, primarily for engine reliability and fuel economy.
I have a 2020 with a 3.5 l equal boost. Then my brother has a 2022. With the 5 l. If we both hook on my trailer. The Eagle boost tows it quite a bit better than the 5 l does. The five liter does doesn't want to take the tenth gear with the big trailer
Don’t sleep on the 3.5 Ecoboost. Powerful engine!
Does the 5.0 v8 have cylinders deactivation 2022
I don’t believe it does!
Is the lack of low end torque in the 5.0 due to it being designed for the Mustang? I love the Coyote but it seems like it was designed as a sports car engine and thrown in the f150 as an afterthought.
Yeah I can see that. Would be cool to have a hybrid with the V8. Then you'd get the best of both
5.0l because they hold their value better and the 3.5 has had a lot of issues recently with cam phase sensor's
Yeah I'm sure. That V8 is very solid
I like both but I tend to trade in after 3 or 4 years so I got a 3.5 atlas blue XLT 302a fx4 w sport appearance pckg otw from Michigan! Katskinz on stand by
Oh cool! That should be a great spec for sure!
Great video! I prefer the 3.5 .. half because faster, half because only option in the F150 Tremor ;) Agree, nothing sounds better than a V8, though (naturally, no piped in crap)
Yeah the V8 is a cool option! I'd stick with the 3.5 since it is faster for sure!
In what part of the country is the 5.0 standard. In NY it’s the non turbo V6 as standard.
For the King Ranch the 5.0 is standard. EB 3.5 is optional
thought the ecoboost tops at 14k when configured, and isnt that 3.3l is the base engine when its xl
Yeah both are actually about the same
If you want to tow heavier loads the ecoboost is much better. So much more torque down low when trying the get the load moving . Plus if your adventurous, you can tune the 3.5 to almost 700 hp. There’s just no room to tune a normally aspirated engine.
Yeah true especially with a tune!
I forgot one point the ecoboost made Toyota give up their V8 in their trucks
It depends where I live and what work I’m doing. Pulling a trailer above 2000’ msl the eco is going to be a lot better.
I’ve owned both. My son in law and daughter in law have Ecoboost in an f-150 and Expedition . None of us have had any issues.
Yeah great points!
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Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video!
I'm not sure where you are but the 5.0 isn't the base here in New York State. Its actually a $2,000 upgrade. From the 2.7 liter. Plus when you turbos go out. Well sluggish would be putting it mildly. Woth the 8. It's the 8 and if you have 10k more. Whipple has a supercharger kit that will bring it to 775 hp. Insane. If ford does it will be covered under warranty.
Depends on the trim level to be honest. The King Ranch I had just done a full review on. So that was kinda what I based my info on. Be sweet to put a whipple on a 5.0 f150!
I have owned both. 2013 5.0 Platinum, 2020 3.5 King Ranch 22MPG Hwy, the 5.0, seemed to be working harder. Who cares what it sounds like. On the highway, the 3.5 is effortless and easier, and less fatigue makes the miles disappear. Around town, the bigger torque numbers improve driveability. 3.5 rules.
V8 for sure, I always choose long term reliability over anything, and that v8 is a proben long term reliability engine for sure
Yeah they are pretty solid engines
I’m on my second 3.5 ecoboost. 2015 XLT 2x4 and now 2021 STX FX4. Of course I love V8 sound but the 3.5 is just so fast. Speed wins over noise for me. A turbo 5.0 would be outstanding. Not going to happen though.
I’ll take the eco boost all day. Had a 5.0 in a 16 f150 and it was complete dog. They just don’t make enough low end torque for a truck in my opinion. Had to be revved to the moon to make any power. I guess that’s just the nature of the beast with a naturally aspirated DOHC engine. The eco boost drives more like a diesel with its low end torque and is much better suited for a truck in my opinion.
Yeah I like the low end grunt of the twin turbo for sure! I agree with you on that
The five oh is a car based engine, not that good for a truck that tows
The best explanation of witch is best you see at the pump. The ecoboost is similar to the Ecoboost they tune and put in the 1/2 million dollar Ford GT race car they modify and sell for the streets and to polish allot if you don’t drive it. Yes it is the first motor to win LeMans in 50 year the stock V8 is the standard engine for the Mustang GT!
Towing has to do with throw weight or displacement. For that reason the more powerful Ecoboost works harder when you tow things but still uses less gas then the V8 when towing!
Louder is not necessarily better!
I rather have the F150 Power-boost and yes it is quite but is faster then the Rapture.
Both are great for sure!
why does ford recommend the 3.5 for towing ? , i tow a 23 foot camper with my f150 3.5 and i have no issues with towing at all ...torque is for towing , and the 5oo pound/feet of torque in my truck makes towing a breeze .
They are actually rated at the same weight to tow. I misspoke
Without knowing the gear ratios on each, this is a meaningless comp. A 3.31 ratio on the V8 will give you better gas mileage but much less power lower down the power band c/w the 3.73, and would also be inferior to the 3.73 for towing. The right comp is the 5.0 with 3.73 vs the 3.5 with 3.55 ratio
Couldn’t agree more.
3:31 is the lowest available gear for the 5.0, 3:55 and 3:73 only available with V6.
In 2wd models, btw. I didn't check the 4x4 because I don't need or want it.
True but at the end of the day the eco definitely has more torque at a lower rpm. Every 3.5 I’ve driven at work feels stronger down low than my neighbors 5.0
@@r2ba435 It will naturally feel stronger, read my comment above. The only way to really tell is if the trucks are Identical other than engine, which Ford doesn't sell.
3:02 I'm sold. Thank you.
Whichever one works best for you!
The sound alone won me over. Especially since the v8 with any boost makes the EB seem like a 4cyl
Yeah the 5.0 can do a lot especially if you ad a supercharger!
I am here just pipe dreaming. I sold my truck to pay for my son's eye surgery. I am a Combat Disabled Veteran. It sucks being stuck at home. I would settle for a beat up 1980's F-150 just to have something I could use to take my son fishing.
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I’m pretty sure the 2.7 eco is the base engine, from what I can tell, the 5.0 is a grand or two up charge and the 3.5 eco is a minimum 2k option. This is on the Lariat trim, 3.5 isn’t even available on the XLT and the 5.0 is a 2k option in the XLT
On this King ranch the 5.0 is standard. But in general the smallest engine in standard
Unless they changed things for 2022, I had a 21 F150 XLT and it had the 3.5EB and I absolutely loved it and I flip trucks every 6 months and ya I was very impressed with it. It’s no slouch on the bottom end and mid range. Better suited for pulling that the coyote
@@FYMM69 I would rather have the towing of the 3.5 than hearing a “sound” of an engine. That’s why guys buy a truck, to pull and haul things