The Rythmik L12 - Small Package: Big Punch
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2020
- My apologies to those who have already viewed this vid. I had to make a couple of edits and reupload it.
For more information pertaining to the L12:
www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/...
www.rythmikaudio.com/L12.html
My Setup:
Receiver: Yamaha RX-A2080
Mains: Polk Audio Signature 60s
Center: Polk Audio Signature 30
ATMOS: Monoprice 6-1/2-inch Kevlar 2-Way In-Ceiling Speakers
Rears & Satellites: Monoprice Caliber In-Wall Speakers, 6.5in
Subwoofers Front: Dual Rythmik FVX15s
Subwoofers Rear: Dual Rythmik L12s
TV: Samsung Q7 75”
Player: Sony UBP-X800
Follow me on IG: Polkfan17
Music Clip: Daft Punk ft. Panda Bear - Doin' it Right 4:24
Movie Clip: Joker 6:17 - Zábava
finally joined the Rythmik family after more than a decade screwing around.
dual F12s. why did i wait? this is bass heaven. i’ve owned half a dozen different subs before this.
not the same.
Rythmik are in their own special, hidden league
Yessir! Welcome to the fam. Congrats 👏🏾
awesome. Have you ever tried or owned an SVS subwoofer? Can't decide between the two brands.
I have owned SVSs. I'd choose Rythmik all day. I had a pair of PB1000s. SVSs are nice but overhyped and overpriced. You get more for less with Rythmik. I upgraded these L12s to a pair of FVX12s in my main HT setup, but moved the L12s to my living room setup. My latest demos will allow you to hear the L12s perform.
@@PolkFan so you have all ported then in your main setup. Can't decide between dual E15hp2 in front and one F12 for rear or go with the V-Ported Rythmiks versions instead.
@Professor5180 Just my 2 cent. Go ported. Because Rythmiks are direct-servo subs, you get the best of both SQ and SPL worlds. The ported subs are just as articulate as any sealed sub, and you get more SPL from them, which is the cherry on top. Having both Rythmik ported and sealed, 12s and 15s, I can attest to the SQ of all of them. They all are articulate and clean, and all are also sub 20hz performers. Measured and proven.
Thank you for describing this vs the 15". Exactly what I needed.
Anytime 👍🏾
I’m not normally impressed with this type of vid but I stumbled on yours when hunting down info on the L12 , and boy oh boy with my headphones in this sounds amazing, well done with the recording and set up my hat is off
Big Thanks! Much appreciated. 👍🏾 Check out my other demos; it gets better. 😉
Feels good to hear bro as always. That song was a bonus.
Hello! my brother. I just saw that video. I thank you very much for testing with the song "Daft Punk" that I suggested, it is one of my favorite songs, it has a very good bass extension, I listened with the earphone, feel the long and short low frequencies perfectly, the Frontal Subwoofers and rear played very well, I love low frequencies. Their new Dual Rythmik L12s rear subwoofers worked well in conjunction with the Front Subwoofers. I loved listening, thank you so much for the demo, make more videos, a big hug from Brazil 🇧🇷😃🤙🏻
Any time my man. Thanks for being a long time supporter of the channel. 👊🏿🎶😎
Sounds solid 😀
Hello, ordered the second L12, should be with me early next week, thanks again for all your help and a great review
Very nice!👍🏾 You're very welcome. Enjoy your system.
Having 4 subwoofers must sound AMAZING 🔊
The bass is incredible. Heavenly deep and clean bass.
Hell yeah !!!!! So smooooth .... SO ARTICULATE... Loved it !! Thanks.....btw I thought u were just JOKING around !!! The Phoenix of subs !!.. ha ha
Another recommendation for using mini-dsp with your subs and getting them dialed in.
We converted a room to a listening room last year and took delivery of two L12s and loved them over the REL t5is. First time with dual subs but taking the time to get them setup with mini-dsp+REW is well worth it. I just can't go back now.
Right, I know the feeling. 💪🏿
Do you think the smaller REL T/5 would be ok for a small to medium sized bedroom for music only, or still go with the larger L12?
@wilw900 That REL would be perfect for that type of system build. It's a quick, articulate, musical sub that has a small footprint. The L12 would take more space and dig deeper, which is good for movies. But it's not common to have music notes down into the low 20s and below. So there's no need for the larger sub in that scenario.
I highly recommend getting a miniDSP HD to time align all 4 subs and applying a house curve.
Thanks for the tip. I'll look into that.
Hello, i have the two L12S in house now, they really are sounding good, thanks.
Awesome! Yeah man, dual L12 will make a bit of beautiful noise. Glad you're enjoying your system. 👍🏾
@@PolkFan yes am sure, your videos were an inspiration, Thanks again.
Anytime my man. 😊
Thanks bro..good info
Anytime.
Polkfan to Rythmik fan....wow.... Thanks for the demo bro.....
😄 I don't discriminate. I'll always be a Polk fan. Rythmik is just on another level with the subs.
@@PolkFan Ys it is....
Bro have u ever tried svs?
@@rahuldevpv7415 I had dual SVS PB1000s before my HTS12s. The only thing SVS has in the price range of the L12 is the PB1000 and it doesn't come close to this sub.
@@PolkFan thanks bro
Hi, so instead of getting another HTS 12. How would a pair of these compare to a pair of HTS 12's? Or would the FVX12 be better? Thanks again!
Always go dual. If you're gonna step up to dual FVX12s, that's an expense that you'd have to except. The Rythmiks are cleaner than most. So if you want some of the cleanest audiophile quality bass, Rythmik is the way to go. But the dual HTS12 setup is badass too and won't disappoint - trust me when I tell you. I miss them. You can have dual HTS12s for the cost of just one of these more expensive subs.
Just to let you know that the L12'S are really sounding really good now, i have mono blocks running them. 👍
Nice! Did you ever resolve that humming issue?
@@PolkFan no not really, have to live with it, not that loud.
@@anthony2010707 Gotcha. Glad you're enjoying them. I'm loving mine too. Gottem hitting so clean, and well integrated.
I am a very huge fan of Elac, Jamo, Bose, Klipsch, Martin Logan, Polk, Kef and Etc...
I will bring it all back on 😃😀
I see you 😊
I'm building a big cinderblock sound stage thing and swapping my sb1000's for rythmic L12's, i had the sb's hooked up with an rca splitter to a single sub pre-out. Question: do i need a reciever that have stereo sub configuration? Or does both subs playing same signal not sound much different?
Thanks!
LFE runs the same signal to all subs so you can run the splitter with no problems - given both subs are up front. What makes a difference when connecting multiple subs to multiple connections is in the case where you're running subs in opposite positions - such as front and back. In those cases having multiple outputs or a way to control the subs independently is important because the subs could work against each other and diminish your response as opposed to improving it. For subs closer to you, the timing is different than those further away. The phase also plays a big role based on the position of the sub. My rear subs are in an inverted phase, while my front subs are in a normal phase.
In short, keep both up front, you're good to go.
I finally decided that the next sub that I add is going to be a Rythmik but I do really wish they would make their website a little easier to navigate. Check out the song "Chocolate Chip Trip" by the band Tool on those subs. You will be in bass nirvana also the song "Party Time" by Kurtis Blow.
Yeah, you can clearly tell their resources are focused elsewhere. They make kick ass subs but a website that doesn't represent them well. I'll check those songs out.
Need some advise. If you had two L12s only, do you ever think you'd want/need more? Trying to decide between two L12s or two L22s (2 single subs or two double subs).
I think it depends on the individual. I'm used to my FVX15s which are larger and ported providing bigger output. The output level of the L12s alone is pretty decent but for me, being used to the larger ported subs, I think I'd want more. If you're looking for a "huge" output, the L22s or even a pair of FVX12s would be your better route. Don't get me wrong though, a pair of L12s can fill a decent size room. My room is roughly 20x20 and they fill my room while nearfield. I haven't run them upfront so I don't know how they'll perform from that position. Also, all of Rythmiks subs sound similar so if you were leaning toward sealed for the tightness, you can get that same tight accurate response from the ported subs as well. That's the beauty of a servo sub.
@@PolkFan Thanks for the advice!
@@jworthe Anytime.
Great video man. Came across this on trying to decide between the Polk HTS12 or the Svs PB1000. Which do you think had deep bass to pressurize the room, slam you could feel but was still clean. Thank you
I had duals of both of those subs. The Polk HTS12s for the win. They'll get into the low 20s and hit way harder than the PB1000s. They'll definitely pressurize better. The PB1000s have a slight articulation advantage and will play 20hz with ease. Don't expect much above 40hz with the PB1000s. They're clean but lack that punch that you wanna feel. The HTS12s will bring that thunder that'll rattle the windows and you feel in your body. Make sure you go dual for the best experience.
@@PolkFan thanks for that... I'll have to start with one for now and work my way up.
@mhelenesephoto Excellent!. I completely get it. Piece by piece. System building takes time for most of us. You'll love and appreciate it in the end. 👌🏾
Which is more advantageous, two L12s or one Fvx15? The prices of L12 and Fvx15 are high in my country, with L12 costing 985$ and Fvx15 costing 2178$. To use them for movies, it's best to purchase two of these or one fvx15. As someone who owns both of these, could you share your thoughts? thanks!
Rythmik's ported subs delivery a combination of SPL and articulation that'll make anyone fall in love - morso than the sealed subs. However, two is always better than one. My personal rule is to always go dual. It'll be more advantageous to go with dual L12s , as opposed to a single FVX15. You'll get better dispersion, smoother distribution, and optimal integration.
Hi
Do you have measurements of the room with room eq wizard ?.
Does it have acoustic treatment ?.
Written with google translator.
Regards
I don't use REW. I use an SPL meter to level match the subs before running calibration and let my Yamaha handle the rest. Yamaha's YPAO does an outstanding job with the sub calibrations. Having the ability to logically configure the subs for a front and rear layout, it EQs the subs separately to a flat response; sets the dB level, and time aligns them. I do have a little acoustic treatment in the room, not much though - enough to minimize the echo.
@@PolkFan Thanks for answering.
When you can,take measurements so you know what you have in your room.
I would put the closest listening point and having a dedicated room it seems,I would put at least acoustic treatment in first reflections (panels of 20-25 cm at least) and in corners between 40-60 cm.
If you are a handyman,with a very moderate investment you will do very well.
If you approach the listening point, say 1 meter or more, you will notice it by ear and the measurements will reaffirm it when you see the Filtered IR (ETC).
Regarding the treatment that I tell you, you will see what a noticeable change in hearing and then reaffirmed with the measurements the T20 and T30.
I encourage you that the next step you do in your living room are those that I comment on.
Later,it would be to put an eculization much more powerful and customizable than YPAO.
In my case,I use Equalizer APO in multichannel and parametric equalization (Neutron Player app) in my 2.1 where the source is a mobile.
I use the Tascam DR05-V2
Regards.
Thanks very much for your video, i love the sound of the L12'S a lot, i purchased one recently and wanted to purchase a second, how do you connect your amplifier are you using line in left and right, thanks.
Outstanding! They're awesome subs. When you get the second, you'll really enjoy them. The second sub is a game changer. For connections, I run my L12s in conjunction with my FVX15s. Everything connects to my receiver. Having two LFE ports, and multiple configuration options, I initially had both 15s on one channel configured as front, and the L12s on the other channel configured as rear. I used a Y splitter on both channels to run two subs on a single channel. And that worked out great for me. I now have a MiniDSP 2x4HD, and run all four subs into the MinDSP, which connects to my receiver using a single LFE channel.
@@PolkFan Thanks for your quick response, i have a sony receiver with dual subwoofer outs as well so i will be using this for the subwoofer left and right also there is a audiolab stereo system that i have so i will use the preouts into the line in on the subwoofer for right and left channel respectively, i am not familiar with the mini dsp i will have to check this out.
Yeah, it's not really needed, especially with Rythmik subs because they are already tuned with a relatively flat response. But it can definitely improve your bass response in certain situations. Taking in the account of room acoustical challenges, multiple subs, lack of control through your receiver, etc. Running four subs in my setup was the reason I bought mine, and I really like it now. But TBH, my bass output was already good from just the receiver calibrations. It's better with MiniDSP but not a night and day difference. I did a video showing the calibration results of before and after. Check out my video titled Do I Need MiniDSP, if interested.
Okay thanks for your reply, appreciate all your help.
@@anthony2010707 Anytime!
Another great video! I placed my F18's in opposing corners and have wall mounted JBL 530's as heights and 3 pairs of JBL 590's running Front stage L/R and Suurounds + Surround back with an Emotiva C2+ CC. There's a 5 channel Parasound powering the surrounds, Emotiva XPA3 Gen 3 front stage, and 2 Emotiva BasX A2 powering heights. Pushing the signal is a Onkyo TX-RZ3100 in preamp mode. The F18's hit hard and sound great i found i wanted some quicker bass for movie gun fire and explosions to round out the sound. Just ordered 2 L12's as well. Going to try opposing corners so there will be a sub in each based on REW and minidspHD i might move them to sides depending on measurements. Its been a year since post and I'm curious what your opinion on them is after long term use.
Thanks man! Damn dude you have a serious setup. I've made a number of upgrades since this vid. Now running the R700s and R400 front stage, powered by the XPA3; four ES15s for surrounds; OMW3s for ATMOS. I have my dual FVX15s up front, with my L12s near field, managed via MiniDSP 2x4HD. Still running my A2080 - solid receiver. Still loving the L12s. You simply can't go wrong with Rythmiks. I found that by reversing the phase of the L12s, I get an overall cleaner response and can set a more gradual slope on the HPF, cut at 18Hz. Ran so many sweeps and found the sweet spot for my room curve - beautifully flat response. Having a sub on each corner of the room makes for the best integration and sounds so amazing. The L12s hit with the same articulation Rythmik subs are known for - solid, deep thumps and work very well on their own. The FVX15s bring the thunder ⛈️ . All four together - Simply Marvelous.
@@PolkFan thanks man! I love your setup as well and have enjoyed watching your system upgrades. I did all mine at once as I upgraded from an old system ive had since 07 only upgrading AVR over that time. I got it all when I thanked another post you did on isolation feet. So I've been enjoying it all for about 30 days. I had a problem with one of the F18's out of the box and Brian was great to work with and even did something very generous on the plate amp warranties on both units. Im really sold on them I just wasn't sure if the L12 was going to be enough from a WPC standpoint to add the effect I wanted. Nemo likes this sub as well and I saw your response on that video. Do these use the M10 bolt as well? I was going to add isolation feet to them as well. Or will the bolts with the kit work? I literally just ordered them late Friday night. Like you I want the appearence and brand to match. The cones aren't as pretty as your 15's or my 18's so ill leave the grill covers on. I also like to listen at high volume i just wanted to be sure they could keep up and give me enough output to blend with what I have. I appreciate your channel and always replying!
@@johngentry5885 They keep up well with my 15s. Altimately, it comes down to the proper configuration. If you level set them (using an SPL meter), and make sure all of the subs are hitting the seating area with the same db level, you'll have consistent levels between each sub throughout the theater. I too like high volumes and surprisedly, the L12s will hang in there with the larger subs - under proper configurations of course. Before my current config, I had them at normal phase and no HPF. I noticed at higher volumes they'd start popping with those 20hz and below scenes. I then added the HPF cut at 18hz with a steep slope and that helped, but I'd still get those pops every now and then (high volumes). Flipped the phase, which in my room works better acoustically, and now the response is beautiful; they'll keep up with the 15s at any volume level; absolutely no popping. Nothing but pure clean, well integrated bass.
For the feet, I just left the OEMs on there so I'm not sure what size bolts will fit. I have the L12s in the back corners so they're not as visible, plus they're sitting on the area rug and have some isolation.
The L12'S.
Dammm i kno that bass is extra smooth 4 subs
Blissful audio man. Having clean sounding speakers is one thing. But awesome sounding bass is addictive. It Changes the game.
Well I just ordered one of these bad boys I wanted a sealed sub and it was down to 2 choices I think the build quality on this sub is the best why I chose it
Trust when I tell you, You'll love it. Set the volume knob to about 2 o'clock, use the LFE port, PEQ off, and set it to Music mode - yes even for home theater. That'll give you the cleanest articulated bass. After setting it up, run calibration and enjoy.
@@PolkFan awesome thanks bro yes I can’t wait 😊
Just got mine and set it up it’s a beautiful sub and looks and sounds high quality I even want a second one already
@@danemoreno88 Ahh, very nice! 😃 Yes, I say it all the time, dual is the way to go for any setup. One is always good, but you're not done until you get the second. I really enjoy of sound of the L12s, nearfielded, without the 15s. Kickass subs. I measured them too. They'll do everything they're rated for too. 18Hz, no problem. I have mine on a high pass and cut them at 20hz; that way I can give them the beans and they'll hang with the 15s.
@@PolkFan sweet yea this is my first real sub I’ve had onkyo htib subs and a Polk 505 before this rythmik I already emailed them to see if I can get the second at a discount for buying dual subs within 45 days I followed all the steps and it sounds great I listened to it and with music it dosent miss a beat it’s fast clean like it should deep bass and no sloppy mess or booming the only question I have is the shipping weight is listed at 58 pound and mine weighs 52 boxed up I’m not sure if they changed something recently
Hello, do you know how you would connect two L12s to a stereo amplifier coming out of the preout?
Very simple. Run subwoofer cables from a set of preouts to the LFE ports of the subs. Very much like a receiver. Connect the red port to one sub, white to the other and it should work out fine for you. In addition, you would need to use the PEQ, phase, and crossovers on the sub for fine tuning since these things are eliminated in stereo amps.
I thought LFE was just dor av receiver, i was wondering if i just have one preout on my amplifier but two subwoofers, how can i solut the single to the two subwoofers?
No, the LFE port on the sub isn't specific to AVRs. On Rythmik subs you can use either the LFE or the Line-In connections. Either will provide a different response range, with LFE going deeper for HT use. If you have only a single preout available from your amp you can split the signal using a Y cable, plug the single end into your amp, and two separate cables going to each sub independently. Use this to split the signal.
www.amazon.com/dp/B07V2QBVQS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_DCNXRTAQFVQFEN8Z4WGM?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
One more question for you, when you are playing the L12 as a stereo pair, how do you set the phase in relation to each other?
I always set the phase to 0. Only in odd situations would you reverse the phase. In most cases 0 phase works perfectly. You could play around with it and see if it sounds better integrated when adding a little reversal to it. Try keeping them the same, whatever you do to one, do the same to the other.
Okay thanks for all your help, please stay safe.
I tried the one sub with the stereo amplifier from pre out I think there is more output using the receiver than the stereo amplifier.
@@anthony2010707 What stereo amp are you using? It's possible that the voltage is different but let me check.
Am using a Audiolab 8000S at 60 watts, but i will be getting a power amplifier soon,at 100 watts to run the two subwoofers, going to run in bi amp mode, am in the UK by the way.
Where did i can buy rythmik subwoofer in india in their website show there is no shipping to india
Sorry man, I hate to hear that. Rythmik is a US company with limited international shipping. If they don't have your country on their website they're not available to you.
I found one rythmic sub in chennai , max audio, Guindy.
He said rythmic has come for his review. It is base model...
I did a subwoofer test comparison against q acoustics, mission sub, rel, xtz and rythmic. Rythmic blew all these subs with just 200 watts and 10 inch driver..it was so small but easily integrated with mains.
Cost was 79k for base model..he said it starts at that price...
I'm seriously viewing rythmic to be my next sub..I already have velodyne impact series but its nothing close to rytmik integration..
Hello sir, do you still have the rythmik L12's, have you ever thought of upgrading from these, thanks.
Hey what's up man. Yep, I still have them. Still sounding excellent as always. At one point I wanted to upgrade them to a couple of E15s but not because I'm dissatisfied with them, I wanted 2 more 15s to match my front subs. The idea of having 4 15s... crazy. But from a dollars and sense perspective, I felt it wasn't worth the investment. The FVX15s are awesome alone; the L12s augment them and make the LFE even greater; investing in another 3K worth of subs for something that's already phenomenal didn't add up so I decided keep them.
Thanks for your usual prompt response,, i was thinking of upgrading mine but decided to hold on to them a bit longer, i can't really fault them.
@anthony2010707 Exactly. They're great subs. The only thing you can ask from them is more SPL. And that only depends on the space. The articulation is superb; they hit clean down to 18hz, not much to complain about. Also very hard to meet or beat at the price point. I don't think I'll ever steer away from Rythmik subs.
Svs pb16 ultra give more effect than this ?
This sub being sealed and servo will be more accurate an detailed than the PB16. Just like with my FVX15s, the PB16 will be louder, and cost much more. You could buy four of these and not spend as much as you would on just one PB16.
Hello, have you noticed a low hum from the subwoofer amplifiers especially when it is quiet at night.
Yes! At one point I did. It's a ground loop. You have to make sure the subs are plugged into a source with a good ground. Also, the cable could cause it. I upgraded my power strip and cable and now I'm whisper quiet - absolutely no noise. There's devices that eliminate ground hum as well.
Sorry but, are you saying that the subwoofer amplifiers are dead quiet, i have both plugged into the wall socket on either side, i notice even it is switched to standby i still hear that low hum, not high but it is there.
@@anthony2010707 Yeah, the amps are dead quiet. That hum comes from a ground issue. For trouble shooting purposes, unplug the audio cable and see if it goes silent. Then move one sub to a complete different location in the house and plug it in to see if it's making any noise. If it's the house's ground you can use something like this: Ebtech Hum X - Plug-Style AC Voltage Ground Loop Hum Eliminator + Cleaning Cloth www.amazon.com/dp/B07W682STV/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_KNSR5Y6FH3FZFE1GG2Z4
If it's the audio cables you can use something like this: rolls Hum Eliminator (HE18) www.amazon.com/dp/B004E4LU0W/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_R9MQBYJV4QM34GG0YYJ8
Okay thanks, it's not audio, its electric, i will try another location and see what happens, thanks.
Just to let you know that subwoofers are quite solid in the bass, very good so far.
I have a 12.17 xtz ported sub and thinking about adding a L12. Many advise not to mix port and sealed. Since u gave mixed both do u feel it integrates well with the ported sub
Yeah, I think the idea of not mixing is complete rubbish. Having a mixed setup, I can tell you that they all mix very well and seamlessly. I have the L12s nearfield, which actually sounds better than the 15s nearfield; and the 15s upfront to bring the ruckus. Proper calibrations is the key. I get a lot of tactile punch from the rear and the deep thunder upfront. Mixed together is glorious hard-hitting clean bass.
@@PolkFan Thanks I’ll give L12 a try
You're very welcome! Anytime. Enjoy. 👍🏾
Btw how did u integrate 4 subs and tile align them with ur mains? Mini dsp?
@@navinsamuel2005 I do have a MiniDSP 2x4HD, however before getting that I just ran Y splitters with the rears on one LFE out and the fronts on the other. The cool thing with my receiver is that both sub outs are independent and configured separately. It allows me to configure them in a front and rear config, time aligning them and everything. So the Yamaha calibration was doing very well before the miniDSP. I did a vid about it and showed a graph of the Yamaha calibration vs the MiniDSP and the results are very surprising.
Think that the subwoofers have just come alive, i can feel them, even a low volume..
Yeah buddy! They'll get even better in time. 👍🏾😁. Those are 18hz subs so they'll dig deep with authority.
Yes they are good, wanted to step up to a more expensive rythmik but Brian wouldn't oblige because of the hum issue he said i was having. 😔
I never had any ground issues with my 15s. Could be something just with the L12s. The humming on mine was so low you could barely hear it. And I was able to get that bit squared away - now they're dead silent.
hello sir, i was considering upgrading to the L12-400, just the one up.
I'm not sure if that model is available. LVX12 400? Perhaps. Either way you can't go wrong with Rythmik. All of their subs have the servo technology and performance like none other.
L12-400 its the sealed subwoofer, 400 watts amplifier.
@@anthony2010707 Yeah I can make sense of the name but I didn't see an L12 with a 400 watt amp on their site.
@@PolkFan It's the F12 400
@@MrStewbee There you go. That must be what he was referring to but saying the wrong name.
Hey I recalibrate my system
Left... Center... Right calibrated to 80db
My Surrounds 77db
My Subs 84 db
With my Spl Meter....
I've never tried it. I've always relied on the Yamaha calibration. How far off is the YPAO from where you manually set it?
@@PolkFan real far .... i set my spl meter at 80db c weight slow response..
Make sure all ur speakers levels are set to 0db... then calibrate ur fronts to 80db
Calibrate surrounds to 77db
Calibrate LFE 84db
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@@PolkFan I sent u the link
@@49ers50 I don't have a meter but I'll get one and try it out. Interesting. Thanks for the info.
Please demo blu ray news concert Metallica & san Francisco orchestra 👌
Which song?
Bass thunder
@@bernus3414 Man I'm not finding a Metallica song with that name.
The memory remain