SVS vs RYTHMIK... | This vs This S:1 E:6
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- čas přidán 23. 03. 2022
- SVS subwoofers are known all over the world. When you think subwoofer you almost always think SVS. Its no doubt these are the popular guys around town but what about Rythmik? Many of you are wondering which truly are the better subwoofers. I'm here to crown a winner. Only ONE can win...
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Well put and very formative.the BEST audio channel on CZcams.well done Nigel.
Nice review - I had SVS PB2000 and moved to Rythmik E15 - not exactly a fair comparison but love my Rythmik subs especially for music and how they integrate and simply disappear - they dig really deep and are tight and articulate - SVS has great apps DSP but with a good AVR/processor it’s rythmik all the way for me
FV18s are equally strong for HT and music. Rythmik blurs the line between ported and sealed by allowing either to play intricate notes. Once you use one, you notice the mids much more than any other sub, except maybe my Rel HT/1508s, which slams but doesn’t go as low. My PB-3000s (sold) were strong and musical too. I’m not going to choose between the two but I own Rythmik FV18s and FV15HPs and I have a SB-1000 for my wife’s office space. I’m an SVS fan but at this juncture, I’m rolling with Rythmik.
I had PB16 Ultras before my current dual FV18 Rev2 with paper cone subwoofers. For me the Rythmik goes lower, hits harder in the mid bass , more nuanced, and is not localized. I honestly can't think of any way that SVS beats Rythmik
As a long time multiple SVS owner I now feel more confident that my new theater will feature dual Rythmik FV18s. Plus owner Brian has spent a lot of time answering my questions on their patented Servo designs. Incredibly knowledgeable, I just wish they had more piano gloss black options, and an SVS like DSP app. Since my theater will be largely rock concerts i feel the musicality of the Rythmik without sacrificing HT Slam make this the right choice for me. Appreciate your channel, thanks.
Great video and explanation! Keep up the good work!
p.s.: The word you were looking for at 6:57 was regress, not digress.
I've never owned an SVS sub, but I own 2 sealed and 2 ported Rythmik subs. Sealed for music system, ported for HT. As you said, they are outstanding for music in their speed and articulation. The ported do very well in a large, open space for HT duties. A friend has had several SVS subs. One was either the SB-4000 or SB16-Ultra...... not sure since they look identical, and after that he had dual SVS cylinder subs. He was never completely happy as he couldn't get them to sound "right" for music. He now has dual 15" sealed Rythmiks and loves them. His first love is music, so take that FWIW.
I have an SVS and Rythmik, both 12's and I lean more towards Rythmik more, just ordered the E22 and will be hear next week
I'm rocking a single F18. BEST decision I've made for my system. Piano gloss finish for the WAF. I own a PB 1000 but thinking about selling and upgrading to a Rhytmik F15.
I have started with the PB 1000 a few months after that SVS came out with the PB 1000 pro. which I now own. I am debating upgrading to a bigger sub in my new home. I am looking toward a Rythmik so your review is very informative. My issue before I make any changes is I have not gotten my PB 1000 pro tune in my room because of my home is located near a busy street. When I move I can do a more listening review.
So 4 months later how did things go?
I own dual Rythmik F18s. Makes my damn house sound like it's coming apart, but it's such clean bass. I would take them over any single SVS sub
Just a suggestion, I had an HSU sub and found that sub to be great for Music as well as movies. Would love if you could test their subs vs Rythmic & SVS.
I think the rythmik has less room decay because its a servo sub, and it has dual opposing subwoofers that cancel out each others standing waves inside the box.
Good review I never had either the svs sub or rhythmic but I always wanted to get svs subs because of their great reviews so I can't comment anything on the rhythmic subwoofer
How does it compare it to the SVS SB16? Does the G25 have the same output?
G25 has double the surface area and bigger size. It will move more air and it sounds better.
svs runs a freakishly large voice coil in some of their subs, i was wondering if anyone could clue me in on how that effects efficiency cuz it seems like svs needs to be driven with some power. generally thats a good thing, but if ur trying to run a whole a/v on just 1 15amp circuit, you gotta start thinking about compromises.
"If you haven't heard a rhythmic you can't tell me it's better than a rythmik," absolutely, totally agree! But that same saying applies to cables. If you haven't heard just how quiet a room can become with shielded cables. You can't tell me shielded cables don't make a difference. In fact sonically speaking there are occasions where I unable tell the difference whether my setup is switched off or it's actually switched on but just on pause 🥳
Does anyone know if the Rythmik f18 would be around the articulation of the e15
If they both use servo technology and the same driver, yes.
I had the SVS PB13 Ultra and the PC 13 Ultra together and they were beast that shook my room and the entire house! Ultimately they were just too big for my room when I got a large pair of M.L. Electrostatics. I've also had a pair of SVS NSD12's that were impressive in their own right. However, I've happily settled down for the last few years with my pair of SVS SB 13 Ultras. I'm sure the Rythmik subs are great as I've owned many Velodyne servo subs that they share the same tech as. However the best sub I've owned is the Velodyne DD18+ which I think is still one of the best subs ever. Now Velodyne is back in business and their Digital Drive Series subs are nothing to play with. Maybe you can be the first to review the DD18+ or the DD15 and see how it stacks up against these 2 companies. 🤔
I'm still on the fence on which sub to get. Looking at SVS, Monolith, Rythmik, and PSA. I'm about 60% movies and 40% music. I'd prefer to a ported sub. In your opinion, which makes the best ported for music?
Rel
Rythmik is known for their ported subs sounding like sealed. Monolith, Rythmik and PSA are all very articulate. Monolith has customer service issues. Rythmik and PSA have much better CS.
Hmm, well I have never herd a rhythmik subwoofer, but that is because they are not offered at my local retailer, such as Best Buy. So I will have to go by default to SVS since SVS, has the distribution side figured out, as well as good products…
Yeah I have not heard of the sub b4
Do they ship to England?
They do but I don't know that they will at this very moment with the global economy as it is
One thing you didn't talk about was the price. While sound is the bottom line, how much it costs to get is also relevant.
What settings do you gave to get to 12hz? Rumble filter off? Low damping? 12hz setting? I have dual E15HP2s, which is basically the same as a G25, per Rythmik, but I can only go down to about 17hz.
All 3 of those and I'm in normal mode. Home theater mode
@@Kpaceguy Have you tried is rumble filter on, high damping, at 14hz? If so, what was your experience?
@Dean Kim i have. It's necessary if you listen at very very high volumes and need that protection. Rumble filter lowers the volume of the ultra low frequencies but I keep all of it off since I'm never at high volumes in this apartment
@@Kpaceguy I noticed that it really limits the excursion. I guess you’ll know if it’s too loud if it distorts, I just don’t know what is considered very very high volumes.
@Dean Kim yeah it's more based off driver movement than spl
Think I will end up with a pair of F15HP. Remember guys, movies have music too, its more than just release the kraken!
I'm thinking between the pb 2000 pro vs the rythmik fvx12 I'm mostly movies and like 5% music
What one did you buy I am leaning to Rythmike fvx-12?
I tried dual PB-3000s and now own dual FVX12’s. No comparison. Rythmik all the way.
@@dustincastillo3195I bought the FVX12 and the subwoofer is unbelievable. I thought I would have to have two of them but I tried one first the output is so good I going to just use one now. For music it sounds like its coming out of my speakers. If you have a wood floor buy the SVS Subwoofer Isolation feet. It will take 90% of the vibration out of the room and you can turn the subwoofer up more.
Best Subwoofer for the money!
I know this is not the brands above but can anyone give me any feed back on starke sound sw15. Thanks
Stark sound makes great subs their 15 reaches down to 7 hz. I own 2 F18 rhythmic, 2 of the SVS 1000 pros in the office and 4 15s from Starke. The Starkes are not as accurate but sound great. The sw15 would be great in the theatre which is where I have mine, there are 2 behind my theatre seats and 2 in the back corners my F18s are the front subs. Sw15 go low and are great theatre subs. You can also catch the sw15s on sale. I prefer the sw15s over SVS in my theatre. Shane on Spare Change has a great review in the sw15s.
@@alcozar5905
Thank you. I did check out the spare change review. I may try these out. Thanks again
@@alcozar5905 Is the Starke any good for music or would Rythmik be a better choice? Thanks
@@michaelcampbell9459 Rythmik all day!
@@alcozar5905Looking to buy two subs. Either two stark sw15 or two rhythmic f18. These would be only home theater could you give me your opinion on which you would prefer as I can’t demo either. Thanks for your time.
I had PB16 Ultras before my current dual FV18 Rev2 with paper cone subwoofers. For me the Rythmik goes lower, hits harder in the mid bass , more nuanced, and is not localized. I honestly can't think of any way that SVS beats Rythmik
What does the paper cone upgrade do to the sound?
I'm currently running dual sb-3000 in one house and I have sb4000 in my other house. Rythmik are super intriguing. I talk to a few of my friends that own them. I think I'm probably going to JL for my next upgrade though. We'll see
Jl is the worst performance to price sub out there besides rel. Stick with rythmik and psa at that price range. Go jtr or funk if you can increase your budget. Nothing from jl or svs will come close.
@@Ctripp2448 Strongly disagree but you're entitled to your opinion. PSA, jtr and Funk are of no interest to me. I agree JL are not cheep but you get what you pay for
You owe it to yourself to get a Rythmik subwoofer. I had PB16 Ultras and now have dual Rythmik fv18 subwoofers with paper cones. I would never go back to SVS at this point.
@@joshdekubber3631 it is not opinion it is a fact. Funk and jtr is on a different planet than jl. I have heard and owned all the above. The best sounding rooms I have been in was funk and jtr by far. Jl makes good subs but at the same price they get walked on easily. You get what you pay for with funk and jtr
@@keepingupwiththejones2933 I think Rythmik makes fantastic subwoofers. Quite a few of my friends own them. I'm not a fan of ported Subs for music or HT but I feel like Rythmik is the only exception. I'm going to check out my friends new F12's soon. I think they are a great company with great products. I just haven't found anything in their lineup for my personal taste
Hey Kpace guy you keep in mind you had a SVS ported subwoofer I own both ported and sealed SVS sub and it is normal that the ported sub is not quick as the sealed Rythmic sub you have because they are ported if your rythmic sub was ported as well I guarantee you it would not be as quick and transient it is right now . The SVS sealed subwoofer they are quick articulate and transient they stop and start playing back in second . So both brand or good sealed are good for music and ported good for movies.
Rythmik ported subwoofers are more transient than sealed from SVS. All about the design and implementation of the servo technology. From your comments it is clear you have never listened to Rythmik subwoofers or you would not be making the comment. Not a knock against you. You will understand once you hear a Rythmik subwoofer.
I'd be interested to hear your opinion on a pair of the svs3000 micros. Do you think that's something you might wanna tackle?
If I can get one
Nice video, and you have the Rythmik sub I would own if I ever decided to give them a go. Have you ever auditioned SVS flagship sealed SB16-Ultra in your space? I know you had dual PB-4000s, but a sealed 4000 or Ultra SVS subwoofer has a distinctly different sound signature. Very much in the same realm as your sealed Rythmik. 😎
I would love to compare the two
You say it's better for rythmik music, but there are also those who use it for movie , is it just for music? ?
I use my rythmik for both
I would disagree with your comment that you don't need articulate bass for home theater. If you didn't need it you wouldn't be so opposed to going back to the car that doesn't have keyless entry and remote start. Remote start forever 😭😅🤣
I've tried SVS a few times, I really want to like them, but their products really just aren't top tier. The amps are not particularly high quality and have a nigh noise floor. I ended up migrating towards Rythmik and they are simply amazing!
I run three different systems: Klipsch 7.4 with dual SB16’s and dual SB-4000’s, SVS 7.3 with triple PC-4000’s and a SVS 4.2 Music Only System with dual SB-3000’s. You stated you heard all SVS subwoofers-what did you think of the SB16’s? I have never owned or heard your subwoofer so I cannot cast a vote. As far as customer service, I do not think there is a real comparison. To really dual in your subwoofers, you need to have at least measured / proper placement-I had my systems calibrated with REW and minidsp 2X4HD’s.
Sb16 is incredible with what it can do given its size and being sealed. You wouldn't know it was sealed if you didn't know what was in the room
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Rythmik is so much more articulate than SVS and it just blends in.