Simon Jordan & Accrington Owner Andy Holt CLASH Over His FEUD With Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney! 🔥
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- TalkSPORT's Simon Jordan locks horns with Accrington Stanley's owner Andy Hold regarding his clash with Wrexham Owners Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney.
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Simon Jordan absolutely correct and nails him. 2600 Wrexham fans, more than covered the policing costs. He tried to fleece them and got caught out.
But in the world of supply and demand, why not get them to pay for their ticket and the police cost. That was the owners point.
And I’ll also note, its not just his club thats doing this.
Also curious if this was a way for Wrexham to deflect attention away from the fans being upset about kit and ticket prices at home lately.
Like he nailed eddie you mean
I think he's just set the price he thinks is right for his club and maybe hasn't factored the increased volume of ticket sales and associated alcohol and food sales into it.
@user-tn8uu2cu8g why should I be a servant of anyone ? Why are you posting here ?!?! Let’s enjoy football WITHOUT religion ! 😳🙄😳🙄
If another club brings the same number of fans but incurs a lower policing cost then why should their fans pay the same as Wrexham.
Anything over £20 for a league 2 fixture is ridiculous
Wrexham charge £24 every week, yet complain when Accy charge £25 because they don’t have multi millionaire owners and sponsors.
@@anthonydeakin3834so why isn't every game 25?
@@johnm725 because they are a club in a relatively poor area of the country, don’t get me wrong, I think £20 is enough for league 2, but the hypocrisy of Wrexham is clear when they charge £24 every home game yet complain that a club with 5% of Wrexhams income charge £1 more. If Wrexham were so concerned about their fns being made to pay £25 then why do they charge £24 every week.
My local team charges £20 and they're in the National League
25 to see charlton in league 1 🙄
Even if you agreed with simon he'd disagree with you
Watch his podcast with Chisora it's hilarious hahaha
@user-tn8uu2cu8g😂 You're not supposed to take all that nonsense seriously 😂
Very true- Loves the sound of his own voice so much that he'll argue to give himself air time. If he agrees...he can't talk as much
Funniest part of that piece was when Simon was praising Andy but Andy then slags Simon off 😂😂😂
Sounds like a money grab to me nothing to do with Police cost
Remember what Ian Rush said “If I don’t drink lots of milk when I grow I will be only good enough
to play for Accrington Stanley !!” "Accrington Stanley who are they?” “EXACTLY"
beat wrexham though didn't they lol
@@nadaduo1765won’t finish higher than them in the league though. That’s what really matters.
He deliberately avoided answering the question directly because Simon got him on the fact that they would have made more money from that game than any other without raising the cost of the tickets.
And he makes more by raising it just like most the big clubs do
@@L1am21 yeah and it's no drama....but don't hide from it lol
He answered the question. You might not understand the answer but don't replace your stupidity with his lack of focus.
Just because Wrexham brings 2500 fans doesn´t mean they they will behave badly, That´s pure nonsense from Mr Holt. He got greedy and got court, pure and simple. Away fans should stay away from Accrington and then Mr Holt will make less money and maybe learn to treat away fans with some respect.
0 arrests. He's making it up to justify his profiteering. Policing bill was £12,000. Wrexham took 2600 fans which would be roughly £40,000. £28k profit. Other clubs who are charged £20 bring around 500 fans and bring in £10k. He's been caught out profiteering and now making excuses.
@@matthewwilliams3789 Plus what they spent in the stadium on food and drink
@@martinjasper7650 correct. He's made a fortune and been caught out.
'its the Phoenix Club'
Behaviour is a part of it, but 2500 fans requires more police than the 300-400 fans simon was saying is the usual away attendance, just because there was 0 arrests it doesn’t mean the cost of policing wasn’t higher. However, I am with simon on this one, the 2000 extra fans would of covered the costs, he didn’t need to raise the price whatsoever
Simon nailed him 😂
Simon got rinsed😂
What were you watching?! 😂
Is this simons burner account?
Get off Simons 🥜 ‘sfor one day
Don’t think so
"It just makes us out to be a thieving club..." yeah, sounds pretty accurate
I’m sure this situation will be documented in Season 3 of “Welcome to Wrexham.” So I hope the producers reference this interview. Great stuff!
Ryan Reynolds did not retweet , he liked the tweet. Ryan & Rob never commented on it.
that still exposes it to all of his followers, you're arguing semantics
@@matthewm3869well said. An inane comment by OP.
Not semantics if the charge is they retweeted it..
In 2008 accrington stanley were going out of business. I am a burnley fan and our then manager owen coyle organised a friendly at the turf and ALL proceeds from the entire game, went in Accrington stanleys purse for them to survive being wound up. You can walk from Accrington to Burnley. I regularly do. They brought 400. So they actually wanted burnley fans to save them not to save themselves. I cant stand them. Blackburn "B" team
Interesting insight.
I wonder if Burnley tickets increase when they get relegated, worst season in history you mugs
@@williams4434 but we won the league on YOUR HOME GROUND. and we'll sing about it forever.
Andy: Revenue per fan
Simon: Revenue per game
Andy Hold screwed them for extra money and was caught out
That was great fun. Fair play all round!
Let's break this down... A guy who looks like the villain from Dune makes a greedy decision. Then, the owners of the club that were suffering the price hike decided to do the opposite. That is literally what happened. Unless the guy that struggles to breathe during a basic conversation can properly explain the financial reality, he shouldn't bother doing interviews 😂
It is worth noting that the Accy chairman puts in his own money to fund a club for the benefit of the community, I don’t agree with the price hike but he’s not some money hungry bloke.
ah yes personal attacks on someone, always the best way to win an argument
SJ had to ask him the same Q thrice, yet either he didn't full understand, coz he's hurt by this episode or doesn't want to answer.
these aren't the ticket prices you're looking for...
Hahahaha ‘villain from Dune’ 😂
Andy started with every match is 20£ then it was categorised all season, but ONLY Wrexham has been increased.
Pretty sure he’s done it for Stockport and Notts aswell but same, but same rules apply all clubs take big followings
27 quid is the price for Swindon fans. Go figure
@Matt-ek8ql No they didn't
please stop your religious propaganda.
Andy thinks like a little fish and Simon thinks like a big fish
Get a room you two 😂
This clown has been arguing with himself all week on twitter 😂 Neither Rob or Ryan have responded to anything. How does this constitute a feud?
If they were worried about trouble. Couldn’t Accrington of just limited the away support?
Man’s gasping for breath with every word 😂
Why get in police for Wexham fans? we used to go to Bangor races every year and the so called Wexham front line were waiting by our coaches and half a dozen of us sent them packing a load of kids
Simons face when he’s says I’m not paying it lol
Acrington Stanley , who are they?
Exactly 😂
😂😂
Damn shame Andy had to contend with a dude who ACTUALLY knows how running a football team works!! Honestly, I'd have had more respect for him if he'd just admitted "Yeah, there's more away fans coming, they'll come regardless, so I'm gonna take the opp for make some extra cash. Stash it in my 'rainy day fund'". Something like that. Not this chickenshit about "Police costs".
Unbelievable. How does a guy like Andy Holt accumulate 5 million quid in life with the maths skills of a 5 year old.
If they'd addressed the concerns about the price hike weeks ago when it first came to light instead of ignoring it, then maybe Wrexham wouldn't have pulled the stunt they pulled. Andy's just whining because he's had his pants down on social media.
4:17 Andy shoots himself in the foot. "That's like saying if you bring a lot of fans we'll lower the ticket price" - yes but you did the opposite, with the same arguement. He said more people cost more money so we raise the price.... so what is his point/arguement?
It's obvious, the guy is trying to cash in, he knows Wrexham fans will pay it so he has tried to fleece them and cash in, but he has been found out, thankfully. He knows and we know they will earn more from this one game then probably 10 games put together if you factor in spending money on food, drinks and services.
At what part did they "clash"?
Accrington Stanley? Who are they?!
“Exactly!”
@user-tn8uu2cu8g Does he support Accrington Stanley?
Regardless if this case I’m sick of Simon Jordan being the oracle of owning a football club. He did it for ten years about 15 years ago and it went in administration.
Exactly, only contribution to the game was to bankrupt his boyhood club but treated like yoda.
Followed Leeds for decades and through the lower leagues this happened to us so many times. Recall a trip to Burnden Park, Carlisle, in the 80s. They drove us past the home turnstiles with the prices above the entrances whereas our prices were more than double. Nice touch.
Yeah used to happen to Forest when we were in league 1 too.
He can't be in a "feud" with Ryan Reynolds when Ryan Reynolds doesn't even know who the hell he is
That's just childish mate
I bet the Accrington fans, all 50 of hem, are looking forward to their next trip to wrexham now.
When he said "no no no no no" i was reminded of the vicar of Dibley dude😂
No no no yes. 😂
😂The ending was priceless
To be fair, I’ve seen Wrexham fans and Swansea fans come to my local club and they are the worst behaved, so I’m not surprised by what Andy Holt is saying!
The bucket analogy he used is possibly the worst ever! 😂
Simon and Jim out of their depth talking about League 2; the obvious question *not asked* to Andy Holt was ticket prices v Stockport County, Bradford City and Notts County (and probably one or two others) where the increase in the policing bill would have been similar.
The accrington Stanley owner sounds like a clown his getting extra money because while there are there they will spend money while there at the ground and his saying no thanks makes perfect business sense 😂😂
Also the chairman isn't saying how much they made from food and drink it's not fair on supporters
Its not just extra ticket sales its the extra revenue that those fans spend in the ground, say they spent an average of £5 each in the ground then they made a huge fortune of the away fans
If it’s cost a extra £5 per head for policing they lose money. Spending £5 isn’t £5 profit it’s £5 turnover, staffing product etc needs to come out of that. Unceasing ticket pricing is £5 extra to cover policing . Sounds like Wrexham charge £24 a game anyway
We were going to boycott food and drink but spent an extra £12
".... abuuucket for a quid" 😂😂😂😂😂
Close that bloody gate 🤣
The most northern thing ever said 😂
I’m an Accrington born lad but i actually agree with Simon on this.
SJ is spot on as always 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Nowt wrong with charging more for “bigger” games. All clubs do it.
It’s £24 in 2 stands but we have a lower price in the other stand which is £22
Thought I’d not dislike someone as much as Simon Jordan, step forward Andy Holt 👏
Kept cutting the bloke off towards the end, when he was about to say something interesting.
Liverpool did something similar when Portuguese clubs were price gouging Liverpool fans. So they reduced the home leg.
We are Liverpool tho , everyone knows we are prickly for these things
@@VR46314 Indeed. Those Shankly socialist values
Conclusion from the calculations below: Accrington Stanley made an extra £69,785 as a result of the Wrexham game (inclusive of increased prices and deducting out the police costs).
@9:15 Police & Stewards Bill - "About £12,000" as Andy Confirmed.
Average Attendance at Wham Stadium before the Wrexham match: 2,437
Total Attendance at the Wrexham/Accrington Game: 5,261 (2,587 Wrexham & 2,674 Accrington)
Average Game: £48,740 (2,437 attendees paying full price tickets at £20) with no extra police costs = £48,740 Revenue (adjusted for police costs)
Wrexham Game: £131,525 (5,261 attendees paying full price tickets at £25) with £13,000 (rounded up) police costs = £118,525 (adjusted for police costs)
Additional In-Pocket Ticket Revenue: £82,785
Additional In-Pocket Ticket Revenue (adjusted for increased police costs): £69,785
Additional In-Pocket Ticket Revenue Broken Down by Source (not adjusted for police costs):
237 Increased Accrington ticket sales over average (2674-2437) at £25 = £5,925
2437 Average Accrington fans paying an extra £5 = £12,185
2587 Wrexham fans paying £25 = £64,675
What's your occupation? I wonder
100% agree with Wrexham
He tried to fleece Wrexham supporters and got called out. End of story
every club in the champ and league 1 regularly did that to us - Sunderland
Same with us at Leeds we’ve payed almost £50 for away days for a few years now it’s all down to greed simple as
Agree with Simon Jordan 100%
Jim's brain switches off when the numbers are discussed. This Andy Hold is at it. Jim runs with the fox and hunts with the hounds. He always says he's for the fans, but when an owner comes on and says he'll charge whatever he wants and if the fans can like it or lump it he sucks up to him! Pathetic.
I don’t normally agree with Simon but he’s spot on here
I nearly always agree with him
I agree with Accrington. These ticket costs aren't just profit but they pay bills which takes from transfer and wage budgets. If he relaxes prices when the price of policing goes up then the balance is off
Whatever your thoughts on this, there's no way the Accrington owner can be as financially illiterate as he's making out.
Andy Holt eats corn the long way !
You should get AFC Wimbledon's owners on sometime. All 4,400 of us.
2 things. Raising ticket prices might actually get less fans to come, and impact revenue across the board. It's not after all a top of the table clash. If he retains the right to raise prices on a whim, surely Wrexham have the right to lower them at a whim?
He doesn't have an issue with their price it's the timing of the announcement.
Tied up like a pretzel 😂
Jim White just cannot hide his contempt for Wrexham. Holt, no matter what you think of his pricing decision, has shown himself to be classless with his conduct and thirst for courting social media. I guess any publicity is good publicity 🤷🏻
Loved this
This police costs, cobblers, is just a smokescreen. The bloke has seen an opportunity to trouser a few extra quid from a guaranteed full away end and chapeau to him for that. It’s the peeing in our pockets and telling us it’s raining, that most object to here.
Rising above it!
Simon is having a laugh.
Ryan Reynolds? Becareful he doesn't bring out his alter ego Deadpool
Or Green Lantern
So they want to stop supporters attending games
Only Wrexham classed as a Category A game and not at the start of the season. Sought to rip off Wrexham fans and he's got caught out by it.
To be fair this isnt his club specifically. Most if not all do this to Wrexham and a few of the bigger clubs in the conference.
He's seen a chance to make money and got called out for it
Who r they???
Don’t tell him that Bradford will charge em £50 a ticket…..Suck it up!
He's being greedy. Simple. He thinks he's being clever.
Let’s call it what it is. GREED.
The top and bottom of it is … you have a choice… go to the game and pay the money OR stay away… it’s that easy, nobody’s forcing anyone to travel to watch football, it’s personal choice.
Called him out and he couldn’t answer it 🤣
You lost me at bookit
Is there a day that goes by without Simon Jordan ‘clashing’ with someone for views
It’s well worth £25 to go to Accrington away it’s a great away day
Good on Accrington probably have a third of Wrexham budget they need to make money were possible to survive if Wrexham fans don't like it don't go
Speaking a lot of sense
Simon's right
That chairman sounds so so tight.
Price gauging fans just because their away crowd dwarfs your home crowd is a snide move, however you try to spin it.
He wanted Wrexham fans pay for his total police bill. Gouging visiting fans as a money-grabber.
"i can charge what i want"
"they started it"
how childish. thank god hes going.
I cant be the only one who scrolls the most recent videos and looks for Simon Jordans latest video with top views.
I pay £15 to watch a good championship team. How are AS charging £20???
Should just boycott grounds that put their prices up, will soon stop happening.
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
🤡
Accrington need revenue to survive, Wrexham need to get promoted before they get the revenue they want, that's the difference.
Wrexham did not take a swipe. Gave a suitable response to a price hike which will benefit Accrington fans. Appears the Accrington owner doesn’t like his supporters.
Accrington are right, it's called the drip down effect, rich club come to town , hollywood boys, loads of money,
Share the money round
Holt is clearly not very clever. Bucket analogy was funny.
Subtitles please 🤣
Accrington have Phoenix Nights Brian Potter as Chairman