How to Buy a Pentax 6x7 67 || Buying Guide
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The four Pentax 67 models - 0:35
Changing the lens and TTL prism - 2:20
Lenses - 5:18
Prisms and finders - 6:34
Straps - 7:04
Lock on/off - 7:20
How to shoot without film - 7:33
Lock the mirror up - 8:37
120 / 220 film roll selector - 8:46
Other things to check on the Pentax 67 II - 9:46
I was looking into these cameras around 6 years ago and thought it was too expensive back then. Boy do I regret not buying one
Haha ! Yup. Right now they skyrocket
Same here. It sucks
YOU HAVE TO TAKE OFF LENS FIRST or you can damage chain
How useful it is to report nonsense you heard from incompetent people?
I did get it wrong.
@@NicosPhotographyShow maybe you should update the video so you don't cause people to break their cameras...
Not even kidding, just followed step by side on this video, broke my chain from the first attempt taking the prism off. camera came from Japan cant even send it back now :(
You guys forget something. The chain ONLY breaks when you remove TTL prism (little arm attached to the prism). In this video he didnt have TTL prism but just a normal one. You can’t break the chain with such prism because there is no needle inside the prism, it’s that needle 🪡that breaks the chain .
What a great video Nico! Thank you for covering everything I was thinking of and so much more!
Extremely informative, much appreciated. Needs more views
Thanks Carson!
I'm not sure you meant it, but re the removal/mounting of TTL prism and lens on the 67 and 6x7, you said the the prism must be removed before the lens is removed (not so), and the lens must be mounted before the TTL prism is mounted (not so). In summary, only when the TTL prism is removed, the lens must be removed before the prism is re-mounted first, then the lens is remounted. This allows the chain linkage to set to its default position first, then index to the lens aperture when the lens is mounted. Always glad to see my favorite medium format system get some exposure. Arguably, there are four normal focal length lenses. The three you mentioned and the 100mm f4.0, which is often overlooked because it is viewed as a macro lens as well - it is a terrific lens, if rather expensive.
Caught that as well. A very important detail.
- remove lens first, then prism
When re-installing, do it in reverse.
- install prism, then lens
Essentially don’t have a lens mounted when removing or installing the prism.
There are two manuals for the 6x7 and only the older one mentions it. Before I bought my 6x7 I watched a couple of videos of this camera and almost everyone got the disassembly wrong...Was really hoping that Nico would get it right.
Good video, tho.
or you could just buy a rz and save the hassle
Yup, looks like I messed up. Going to reupload. Sorry guys.
This. You don't have to remove the prism to swap lenses and you can remove the prism with a lens on. You MUST remove the lens to re attach the prism though.
I think it's also possible to shoot with the back open... there's a tiny bit of the rear door that slips under a catch on the winding column... if you use a small knife (pentax had a proprietary little metal disc thing) under that catch, then you can fire the shutter with the back open as well...
Fantastic video! Thank you very much!
Great info for someone who knows nothing about the camera, but is thinking about purchasing one.
Nico, a very belated thanks for this. Got myself a 67 right now, looks in a very good shape, but still have to test it fully. I got the manual, but your video was exactly what I needed to digest both quickly and thoroughly all I needed to know about this piece of equipment. Got a 150 mm lens with it, to shoot some portraits to start with, will see how it goes. PS: I was a bit worried about the wobbly backdoor, but you kinda reassured me. Let's see if this doesn't produce any leaks. Thanks again!
Super helpful video - thanks
You're welcome!
Nice thanks for the explanation 🙏🏻 I’m going for it :))
Thank you for the advance lever trick!
Great video, great camera!
Thanks Ian.
Good review. Thank you
Very, very good video. I just acquired this camera recently
RS. Canada
Justo acabo de comprar una hace algunos días, pero parece que todo esta bien
Brilliant camera. But what’s another option in a 2x3” 6x7 roll w/ higher flash sync 60 minimum ?
Does the wissen handle offer left hand cable shutter release?
Perfecto, gracias por tu tiempo.
This camera has been a workhorse over the years. Gallery shows? check . Weddings? check . Landscapes? check. Excellent video by the way. I had mine overhauled and cleaned in 1998 and am having to do it again because of what Nico mentions... advance lever/ mirror sticking. True, it is heavy. Exposures longer than 1/60? Use a tripod, the mirror flip, and a shutter release cable. (wished I had known this when young). I came across another Pentax 6 7 whose battery would die quickly. You can take these apart yourself if you are electronically inclined, but after seeing all the colored wires, I quickly realized I was not electronically inclined. I regularly use the 55mm, 90mm and the 165mm. I see 300s available for 149 US$. ?
hi Nico, is Pentax 67ii the latest Pentax medium format camera? And I wonder if they are still producing medium format film cameras. I also wonder what is the dynamic range. What is the best medium film camera in the market for you? Thank you.
Just bought this camera from Japan... TTL Mirror Lock/Up version... Do I put the lens on first, or the prism on first....?! Your video kinda confused me.. In this video, you put the prism on first, then the lens, but while you were doing it, you said it the other way around.. 5:00 mark.
Pentax 6X7 Electronic repair issues, extra backs & parts harder to find?
Hey, thanks for the info! 😊 I’m curious; how bad does the yellowing affect your final image? I am looking to buy a Pentax with the 105. I found one, but it does have the yellowing. I read quite a lot about the yellowing on forums etc. but I couldn’t quite see the effect it actually has on your images.
If it's really really bad, your shooting with an 81a filter. so really not a problem.
Thank you sir
I am new to film camera and have a question about the advanced lever. Does it go back to the original (off) position after winding it (without film)? I see that yours are in the protrude position.
It does go back to initial position only when it made the full turn. If you advance and stop in the middle or in the beginning , or before the end it will stay . You know why ? Because when you load a film inside Pentax 67 you have to advance carefully and put « start » mark to the dot inside camera’s body. Usually the advance lever will be in the middle . So imagine if it come back , oh god how you can install film? You will lose tension of the film. This is why the advance lever will only come back once it made full turn
Nico, I need a buying guide for a Mamiya Sekor Z 110mm f2.8 under 500€
thank you so much
Thank you.
what is the best lens for the first 6x7 asahi
thank youuuu !
I have a 67ii if I remove the prism do I have to still go through the same steps to remove it as the older models?
No, there is no chain in the new version. You are safe ;)
There is a film indicator at the center of the film back. Just set it using the film pressure plate at 120 or 220..
Cheers Nico....Bought a 6x7 non mlu recently and it has the 105mm which has the yellowing in it. I will only be shooting B&W film so before I do will this affect the image quality.
You can reduce the yellowing by exposing the lens to UV light (by using a UV lamp or by leaving it in the sunlight)
@@mrdasboot45 Don't think I would subject it to the New Zealand sun so will put some film through it first and check the results. UV lamp looks like the safer option for the lens if I really have to.
No need to worry about the yellow lens color. Just Shoot!
How do you take care of the electronics?
Sadly not much we can do. I would suggest general care, like no humidity, no extra heat and no big bumps.
This is my dream camera HOWEVER I hate the fact that it needs a battery to operate the shutter. So if the electronics go bad the camera is just done?? That’s kind of a deal breaker for me especially at the price of the thing. Can anybody tell me how reliable these cameras are and if they will survive long enough to make the purchase worth it? Thanks!
The 6x7 mirror-up is the one to get. The 67 version is the same as the 6x7. So many were made that the die stamp for the camera wore out! So the new stamp had a Bold Font 67 printed. This will indicate that it is a more recent made example. So these will cost a bit more, but worth it. Like any modern Digital DSLR or Mirror Less camera. Always carry spare batteries. So the Pentax 6X7 was a precursor to modern day cameras in this battery issue. The silver oxide batteries that I used would last an eternity before being replaced. Unlike the all mechanical 6x6 Pentagon or Kiev 66 SLR type medium format 120 cameras that had all kinds of film advance, internal light reflection and shutter issues. The electronic Pentax shutter is accurate and has NO light reflection or film advance issues, So long as the camera is NOT abused by the user. The SMC lenses were superior to the then current Zeiss optics in terms of sharpness, color rendition, lack of ghosting and very high contrast levels. No wonder they became the favorite kit for Fashion Photographers. Especially for B&W Fashion and Mountaineering photography. A massive collection of lens options to choose: from a 35mm full frame fisheye to a Mammoth Sized 1000mm reflex Super Telescope lens. Solid as a tank that can be used as Street Protection too!!!! Ha! The camera bodies are robust and like a Timex Watch, they take a licking and keep on ticking. The fact that in this Digital Age, these analog film cameras are still in demand and fetch high prices in the used market are all you need to know. There are also techs who will service these camera. Purchase the book: Medium-Format Cameras by Theodore DeSante . It contains a detailed chapter on the Pentax 6x7. A great reference to medium format Analog Film camera from the 1980's. They were a bargain compared to a 6x6 Hasselblad. A new Pentax 6x7 body ran for $400, while a Hasselblad A12 Film Back would cost $600!!! So Pros would use 4-6 Pentax 6x7 bodies to a shoot instead of a modular systems Medium Format kit. Because different bodies were used, you had far less wear on a camera body than using a single body interchangeable back camera Kit.
Nice
Is there a metered prism for the 6x7 or only the II?
Yes, the normal 6x7, 67 have a TTL prism. The 67II has its own version with 3 modes.
Thank you. I’m having trouble finding a metered prism for the 6x7. Any suggestions on where to purchase?
@@ambattistella depending on where you are check KEH, B&H or Kamerastore.
Price has really jumped on these I almost bought one maybe 3+ years ago and it's easily doubled
It’s normal. Pentax 67 isn’t being made anymore . The world’s stock is diminishing, cameras breaks and people looking for replacements. Wedding photographers such as me , need 4-8 back up bodies. The camera is getting rare so the price is jumping yes.
@@Pentax67 to me even just the fact that their advancing mechanism slowly but surely jams up, is hilarious seeing how people are willing to pay for these things. Like, only for that they should cost half of a mint Bronica ETRSi as far as I'm concerned, and still.. people will throw hundreds of € to these.
When you look at the 6x7 transparencies on a light table, only then can you'll understand the need for a 6x7 camera. Not just a Pentax 6x7! But Mamiya or Bronica will do just as well. The Pentax 6x7 SLR design made it a natural progression for someone moving from a 35mm SLR system kit.@@Photo_Cyclist
Are you saying that you need to remove the TTL prism every time you change the lens? That's not what I've seen before: www.pentaxforums.com/forums/58-troubleshooting-beginner-help/372838-advisory-pentax-6x7-67-meter-coupling-chain-ttl-meter-prism.html
You do not have to remove the prism to remove the lens, a major mistake here. Further, you do not have to remove the lens if you are removing the TTL prism and replacing it with any of the other viewfinders (Normal prism; waist level finder, etc). The warning applies only to when a 6x7 or 67 body has no finder mounted and you want to mount a TTL metering finder. Only then, you must remove the lens before mounting the finder, then remount the lens in a normal manner. This allows the linkage between the lens and the TTL finder to properly engage. Conversely, if a lens is mounted (first), and the TTL prism is snapped into place on the body, the meter linkage may not properly mesh with the lens aperture control. (And then break the famous little chain.) It's pretty simple to understand, does not interfere with normal use of the camera and lenses, and not applicable unless you are using the TTL metering prism.
Randall Stewart LOL Nico Llasera did a dedicated video after realizing he said something incorrect about the Prism and the chain. It’s a 6 months old video.
@@toulcaz31 I do not understand why people do not simply read the manuals...check my reply here to Certisette Kotomi
Someone said you need to tale the lens first before the prism... which is which
I have a video on how to do it correctly, I have to remove this video as its wrong.
there is only the 90mm and 105mm lenses available for these cameras?
Nooooo, you can go from a fisheye 35mm to a 1000mm. For example, 45mm, 55mm, 75mm, 90mm, 105mm, 120mm, 135mm, 150mm, etc....
Pentax 67 has the biggest lens selection of any medium formers and 35 mm ...
Is the mlu version better than the regular 67 ?
In timeline the first was the 6x7 non-MLU, followed by the 6x7 MLU, then the 67 and last the 67II. So in theory the 67 is newer and better than the MLU.
Nicos Photography Just one today ! Excited to use, it came with 135mm f4
The 135mm is one of the best and undervalued lenses. Keep it and enjoy the lens for as long as you cab.
No it’s not better. MLU and non MLU are just same cameras and you will get same photos. It’s just the absence of mirror luck up. But that feature is too overrated. And many youtubers don’t know what they talk about. So everyone thinks MLU is way to go.
Almost no one is using mirror lock up. Especially in portraits or weddings , you don’t need mirror lock up feature. Now it’s not because one model is newer that it’s better. You have to pick up the body which is the least abused ... especially close to as new condition. The choice is pretty straightforward : it’s better to pick up non mlu body which is « as new » rather than beaten up or used MLU.
@@Pentax67 dude the price of the 67 has gone up so much. Happy I got mine before
that lens hood
Its the official one. Its pretty big.
The PH-SB 67 is even larger and bigger
You forgot about mirror slap. That baby had a bad recoil.
Disappointed you didn't add text to correct your prism removal sequence. It's a very serious error. You admit the error in the comment but did not see fit to edit the video. This is not just misinforming a camera spec, but it could cause someone to break their camera. Thumbs down.
I actually made a whole new video on how to do it. But this one had a lot of other info. Also I cant edit and reload this video. CZcams wont let me. But I understand the thumbs down.
These things are impossible to find at a reasonable price. You're better off with a mamiya universal if you're really trying to save a lot of money on a professional 6x7 camera
They are getting hard to find at old prices, but they still deliver amazing results. The Mamiya Universal is great but the rangefinder is a pain to calibrate, and this is from my own personal experience.
I shoot with both a Pentax 6x7 and Mamiya Universal. The Universal is unmatched as far as format choices are concerned: 6x4.5, 6x6, 6x7 and 6x9 formats are possible!!! Good shuttered lens selection and a massive amount of accessories to choose from. The M or G adapter lets you use Mamiya or Graflex back devices. The Polaroid back was fun to use with the multi lens adapter (two or four images). You can either use the Rangefinder or a Direct focus adapter. My favorite being the 45 degree direct view finder. The wide angle lens finders are joy to use. These Mamiya Rangefinder cameras were a natural progression from a 35mm rangefinder camera user to medium format photography. Much the same way that the Pentax 6x7 was the progression from 35mm SLR camera user into the Medium Format shooting world. These modular rangefinder cameras replaced the BULKY and Cumbersome Graflex 4x5 cameras of the day. In the analog still camera days, these camera helped to make Roll Film photography popular. I would be re-missed not to mention the Singer or Super High Priced Linhoff Roll film cameras of yore too.@@NicosPhotographyShow
This poor man seems both befuddled and confused. Like he has never used the Pentax 6x7 system!
Im very confused, thanks for noticing.
The heavy tank isn't worth buying.
Lol it's all great until we arrive at the part "don't expect to pay too much for these, the advancing mechanism does break easily". Dude. These things cost around the thousand of €. No dealer on this earth will ever hear your advancing mechanism argument.
So basically I should pay a thousand € for something that is almost guaranteed to jam up sooner or later? What are we even talking about. I'd rather pull the trigger for a Zenza Bronica ETRSi.
I have had a few Pentax jam on me but I got them at half price from todays market. Still can be fixed but pissed me off while at jobs.
i dont understand why this video is still up when theres super super bad, damage-inducing advice (regarding the prism/lens chain)
you also didnt add a link to the strap like you mentioned, which would have been helpful. womp