How to Buy a Mamiya RZ67 || Buying Guide
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Nico, with the advice in this video, I was able to buy my own Pro II from eBay without a lot of stress. Thank you so much!
That is awesome. Enjoy it and ask any questions you may have.
@@NicosPhotographyShow Can I use Pro II back on an older model?
Yes you can.
@@NicosPhotographyShow When you use the electronic shutter button on the grip, does it support half pressing in order to see what my exposure value will be in the AE prism before releasing the shutter?
I bought an RB 67 new about 1972. I keep very good care of my equipment and the camera and several lens are in nearly new condition. It's nice to know these wonderful cameras are getting the attention they so well deserve.
They really are amazing cameras and systems. Glad you have had it for so long, its not many people that still value them since they got them new.
This was an extremely helpful video. As soon as I sell my Bronica equipment, I plan to buy an RZ67 Pro IID. I had an RB67 Pro SD, back in the early 90's, and I loved it! The photos you get compared to a 35mm camera are incredible! Thanks for all the great tips!
Glad it helped! I do love my RZ67s.
Wait a moment. You are right on the viewfinder not being 100%! I was always confused in how I got stuff on the edges of my frame I thought I had cut out. I'll keep this in mind for the future, I feel so embarrased having used this system for over a year without realizing. Thank you!
Its happened to all of us, keep enjoying it!
We just sold a tilt shift adapter for one of these at the pawn shop i work at for $80 AUD today. I spent hours and hours trying to research the item as it didn't come with anything other than it was sold along with a mamiya polaroid back piece. after hours of searching with no luck, it was posted for sale at the original price it was listed at when we bought it. It sold within 2 minutes. I have since found out it was the mamiya NI701. Bit sick to my stomach that it got sold so cheap, but also happy for the unbelievable feeling the person who bought it must be feeling.
Thanks for the very useful video Nico, the problem of the Mamiya RZ67 is that after you try it you can't do without it anymore, impossible, you don't have cameras like these anymore, today's cameras seem like toys that beep like a game boy, RZ67 forever the best.
Great Video! One thing you have to pay attention to when adapting RB lenses to your RZ body is that some RB lenses (I believe the older ones) have a different flange distance and you'll be able to focus past infinity. Some people have told me that's not a thing but I have an RB and an RZ and I've experienced this first hand. It still works with no issues, you just have to pay a little more attention when focusing to infinity.
literally the exact video I needed
SHD same, i really want to pick one up for Ektachrome
Yes, you are right. The Mamiya RZ67 ProII is a great camera and has no optical disadvantages to my Hasselblad 500c/m. Unfortunately I had two issues with my Mamiya. First the shutter release button stopped working due to a magnetic failure inside the body. Second I had also the "click" noise of the focusing knob because of a broken sprocket. Both failures had been repaired for about 120€. The optical qualty of all my lenses are outstanding.
Far better in comparission to the Hasselblad is the bright and large focusing screen.
Sorry to hear it did fail, but at least it was fixable. I do love the bright and big screen. Will see if I can compare them in equal conditions.
Happy to hear people keeping their camera gear maintained :)
I got to hold a Mamiya RZ67 today at Samy’s Camera after work. I love the weight , I like the sharpness of the focusing screen, and the shutter slap sound is very satisfying. Now I should sell any 35mm camera I don’t use a lot to fund and save up for a RZ67.
Hope you get it soon, its an amazing camera.
I bought a Mamiya RB67 off of eBay a few years ago and I absolutely love it.
They are amazing, never had the RB67 but would love to at some point.
How much did you get it for
Nico, just to add the the part about backs. The older 'Professional' have a frame counter only in the landscape orientation. The Pro II ones have a frame counter in both orientations.
Good one! Totally forgot about that
Love the RZ. I believe you could still get half stops on the older RZ lenses without the half stop detents. Just place the aperture ring between the full stop detents.
I think it does work, need to test it for science sake!
@@NicosPhotographyShow not sure it did, thats why the shutter has 1/2 stop adjustments!, as this was the only way to fine adjust exposure.
Yasser Nicos!
Rather than how to buy, please give us how to use in order to create fine photos.
The art of buying is quite mechanical. It involves removing the credit card from one's wallet or purse. Most of us have mastered this technique and can do it without much thought.
How to take fine photos is a different, and far more challenging subject!
As much as I do agree buying with some know how helps keep the credit card safe and not have returns. I will be making a new series about using cameras to create fine photos.
was using an RZ67 Pro ii at uni today with by 127mm f3.8 and didn't have any problem, definitely recommend it
Its a great camera, just wish it was a tab bit smaller, lighter, but then it wouldnt be a 7x7 camera.
Not sure if anyone asked this one: would you recommend buying a whole kit or would is it a better deal to buy the individual components and build up a complete kit (complete kid being body, lens, viewfinder, and back)?
Great question, following :)
that was funny .... so guys the battery goes on the bottom and lasts for ever don't worry .... 2 mins later ... guys I think I run out of battery ,,,,, !!! lol... sorry Nico.. that was funny ... did laugh a little bit ... but great guide ,.:)
Thats Nico for you, just like real life!
Just bought this (Rz67 pro 2)with 3 lenses, Polaroid adapter, also a nikon f6 with lenses and a bunch of more stuff all in a pelican case for $150. Wasn't sure if it was worth the buy as I'm not a photographer but sounds like I did. Putting for Sale!
Im interested
Interested ^
Also interested if still available.
Terrific survey. Wish I'd seen this when I bought my RZ67 Pro. But, this is my first studio camera. It came with the older AE Prism Finder and older 110mm lens. Have to always make sure the finder/meter is turned off between use or the battery will run dry in my experience..
Great Video Nico 👈👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
you CAN use RB lenses, BUT you have to put the R Z body into R B L mode on the shutter dial, ie put this camera into lens shutter control, not electronic shutter timing!!
👍🏻 some people go to the gym for a workout. You do a video with your rz’s 😁 that would explain you have four? ✌🏻
Hahaha, its a long story, I used to have more. Short answer is one is not mine (the pro II) and the others I use for workshops and have been close to free.
Shit Nicos, I got a RZ literally two days ago haha, wish I could have seen this first! It's pretty beat up but works fine apparently...have to run a film through it yet though.
Hope you have no issues, make sure to share how the first roll go.
good luck :-) be careful, get blurry shots if you don't use a tripod, and mirror-up mode ( lever on rear of camera body--set to "M", "R" lets you revolve the back!)-if you use RB lenses, lift and turn the knob on lens to "M", then insert cable release in socket of knob, as this renders the "shutter" for mirror only operation!!( use cable to fire lens shutter). the mirror has more slap than you think, and the camera is heavy, not a "compact" by any stretch of the imagination.
Thank you!! The video was verry informativ and helped us a lot buying our Mamiya RZ 67s !!!
Great one. This might be in my future.
I'm thinking of buying Mamiya RZ67 Pro II. Very informative video. Thank you.
Thanks!
one thing Nico, there can be a problem with the T setting, as if you set this the lens stays OPEN, until the mode is off, also the M-UP mode, like with the K\L lenses for the RB, just be careful as these can 'catch you out' if not carefull.
Thanks! Your video resulted that I bought one now! haha! Merry X-Mas!
Thanks to you! You wont regret it!!
Thank you for this video, Nico! :) My fav camera, ever!
Thanks! Keep using it lots! Take care my friend.
Great video. I got my RZ in a government auction. I love it but don't use it often enough. Wow, I paid over $1000 for my 180 mms lens from B&H. I should have waited a while.
Yeah, second hands prices have really gone down compared to the new in store prices. But you still have an awesome camera setup.
I paid like 150 usd for that 180mm. Buy them on eBay. Specially from Japan.
Outstanding information. Thanks for this!
Just out of curiosity, where would you say is the best place to find deals on these items? Would ebay be my best bet?
Hi Nico.. awesome channel..!! could you do a video on things to look for when buying a Pentax 67II. Thanks.
A question about pricing: prism finders are going for $300ish and 110m/f2.8 lenses are all going for anywhere between $600-$1k+ on ebay right now - are these overpriced?
really good video man! thanks for the info! very helpful
Glad it was helpful!
thanks for sharing Nico!
Thanks Max!
Thank you very much. Great video!
Thanks Juanjo.
GREAT information, thank you !
thank you so much for this video!!
You are welcome! Hope it helps.
Nice stuff Nico. How about doing one for Fuji GX680.
Not as familiar with the cameras, but as soon as Im back in Finland will get up to date on them and do a video.
good evening Nico s I would like to know the procedure to change the back on the rz 67 go from a black and white back to a color back without missing a pose thank you very much
Could you also recommend a digital back? I have the RZ67 II with a Leaf Aptus 22 I bought used that I used tethered in my studio but it was a fire wire set up and when I updated my computer, the fire wire system (converted to USB) was too funky and undependable. I really miss using this amazing camera and want to find a newer affordable back.
Sorry I cant help you are Im not a digital back user. There is another CZcamsr that has made a few videos on the subject.
Simple question: I've got the money to get a hassy 500cm or the Mamiya rz67, what should I get in terms of investment, system, photo quality, natural colors. I shot mostly portraits, fashion and architecture
I would suggest the Mamiya as its more flexible in my eye plus it has 6x7 and that does better than square and cropping.
@@NicosPhotographyShow that's great to know, I think almost the same, the crop of the hasselblad does not go with me so much as the 6x7.
You wont regret it, except for the size, but one gets to love it too!
This price has since gone up like crazy.
They really have, I must admit they are still worth it.
@@NicosPhotographyShow yes if everyone is buying like 5 of them, no wonder.
Thank you. Very useful!
Excellent video Nicos.
Can you do one on the RB?
I dont own one sadly, so can give many guidelines about it. Sorry. If I do buy one or get my hands on one somehow I will.
Briliant video!
I would say another case for the Pro II is the RBL setting, so you can use RB lenses on the Pro II...don't beleve the Pro has that feature, dous it?
I was super lucky when I got my Pro II. But the Pro (I) is allso a briliant camera.
Anyway as stated grate video!
Now Im not sure, I have to look into it, would be a bummer not to be able to use RB lenses.
I have a RB67 (the big old brother of the RZ67) with 2 lenses and I just bought a prism with a meter in, so I'll keep it a few years more... The RZ67 seems lighter than the RB67.
ohhh noo what happened at 14:06? was it actually the batter? or maybe the multiple exposure switch?
It wasnt the battery, seems it jammed for a bit. Turned it to no battery mode and it let me reset the camera.
Perfect! Gracias Nico ::
Gracias Ariel!
Se puede usar UN Lente canon o Nikon moderno en una Camara de estas? Yo entiendo que es un lente mas paqueño.pero la ventaja de usar UN Lente moderno sin aberracion y con El contraste que los hacen hoy dia.....es solo una idea ..no se
If you have a the Manual Lenses of the RB 6x7, can you still use them with the RZ body if you do not need electronic metering? same question about the backs. Are the RZ backs dependent on electronics.? Thanks. je
The grip doesn't have a hot shoe, correct? So when the grip is attached, one couldn't mount a trigger for strobe units? Is the rationale you would be hand holding outside with available light and anytime you did studio work it would live on a tripod or a foba...
I usually use the pc sync on the lens when using the grip, and connect the pocket wizard to the cold shoe.
Amazing video! As you said the 6*8 back from RB67 can be put on the RZ67, I wonder if the mount on the RZ body is big enough to shoot 6*8. Thanks!
So are you selling the pro 2? Im willing to buy
Giving away a Pro the 31st, here on youtube.
My Rz67 is temperature sensitive. It doesn't fire if it's 60 degrees or lower/ 85+ is this because it's naturally for indoors or Is there a problem???
Yeah, going to change my 645 pro to rz67 ii)
You wont regret it, except for the 10 pics vs 16.
Great Video Nico. Did you try a different focusing screen on your RZ67 ?. I was wondering if a split image/range finder screen would be worth it. Thanks
I used to have it. 100% worth it.
Would love to get some more advice on this model.
What kind of advice are you looking for?
@@NicosPhotographyShow Im looking to add medium format film to my tools. As a portrait photographer, do you recommend the RB67 or the RZ67?
@@scharadlphoto both are fantastic, but for future repairs the RB67 has a brighter future. Im moving into RB67 myself for that reason.
@@NicosPhotographyShow this is great, thanks. What RB lenses are the equivalent to 85mm and 35mm in full frame? This are my fav focal lengths and Id love to carry them over into Medium format.
@@scharadlphoto i suggest the 180mm as a great portrait lens, also very inexpensive. Equivalents on 35mm is not always the same on 6x7. As the aspect ratio is different. But 85mm is around 150mm.
Thanks for this - a very comprehensive overview. I’m tempted by the RZ67, but also the Pentax 6x7 - any thoughts on which to go for? - Peter
I might make a video on the main key differences. But to me its fairly simple. If you shoot handheld Pentax feels easier, but if you need flash Mamiya is the way to go. Either way they are both amazing cameras.
R Z-67 for sure (my opinion), the PENTAX is like a 35 mm SLR, but in a larger format, so when you load film, you are stuck with what you choose for the entire roll. With mamiya, you can shoot ISO 160, 400, colour, B&W all one shot, not wasting any rolls!! as you change the back ( film transport section of the camera) and its LIGHT TIGHT. also R Z is a bellows camera, with more lens choices around, Pentax has heavy lenses, BUT is a FOCAL plane shutter ( a few lenses do have a leaf shutter, but not all lenses); so it depends on style of photography, SLR or 'BOX" style suits different uses, R Z is better for macro & studio (size and weight don't matter here); Pentax has eye-level prism finder, so is better for street/ travel shooting.
andy van - Cheers mate :- )
Nice video with useful information. I have the RZ67 Pro ll and my question is, if I leave the locking button unlocked when not using it for a few days or weeks, will that drain the battery? Thanks.
Thanks, no issues with batteries. I leave it always on.
What type of focusing screen do you use? I’m trying to find a type B rangefinder spot screen and can’t seem to find one anywhere. Even type E is very hard to come by.
I cant remember which letter it is. But I used to have the E and is was AWESOME!
eyyyy🔥 so much fire on this channel #WLVF
Thanks Joka!!
Ok so.. I'm crazy to get a rz67 because I know it can produce amazing portrait and fashion photography. My problem right now is that literaly everything I see on the internet shot with it I don't like. Everyone seems to love portra but for me is too washed out, no contrast, no vibrance, the colors don't pop and it looks just old so I could never do my professional work with it. So my question is.. can I shoot another film that will make it look more like I want or is all up to the lab when they process? Am I missing something I don't knwo...
You can, just expose it at its normal ISO. So 160 at 160, 400 at 400. Then when scanning people are editing a ton to lower stauration and contrast. You can bump it a little and it will look much better. I would suggest testing on a current camera you own and then upgrade to the RZ67 if it worked.
@@NicosPhotographyShow thanks! I guess most people just like that washed out portra look and shoot/edit everything to look like that in post.. I think a rz67proii will not get "old" anytime soon, especially since it can get digital backs with adapters.. I will definitly get myself one
Just wondering did you happen to have a chance using a 135 Film with it? And what film back did you use? Thanks
Never done it, not sure Mamiya ever made a 35mm film back for it. You could use the 120 to 35mm adapters.
I got an offer with a RZ pro II that has a minor issue with the plastic gears of the bellows. The material or time caused a rather eliptic shape that makes the bellow movement a little uneven. Any experience? Or advice for changing / 3d producing new gears?
How heavy is the camera with a wide-angle lens and handle grip? Is it practical to carry around?
Thank you so much for your advice, I just bought me an RZ, along 4 lenses, just need me an eyeview finder and a strap, but I need some help. I cannot find anywhere the panels on the bottom of the camera body. It's these little grip-like little panels that on my RZ started craking and fell off, both left and right and super frustrating feeling the bottom like this, I could see small holes with some cables running through and that's a bit scary for me so I'm using electrical tape until I can find a replacement. Is there anywhere I could buy these ? and would you be able to point me in the right direction? I would truly appreciate your help if not thank you anyway, this is the video that convinced me to get myself an RZ so thank you !
I just bought one myself with the same issue. The grip on the bottom left corner is chipped away but it seems fine. Nonetheless if you find a solution please let me know!!!!! I’ll do the same
@@JT-oc8yt it's a bummer but It is okay once I used some electrical tape. I found some blog were a guy found a replacement for 7 dollars or so.. , he called this number, 9143473300. I still haven't managed to talk to someone about it but I hope this will help. If you get a hold of some with a replacement I'll give you the money for the parts or vice versa.
Have prices spiked in europe? In Germany the prices for the 180mm are like 300 euros.
Not that I have noticed. Here its for 100€ in Europe 10€ shipping and at your doorstep in less than 24h. kameratori.fi/mamiya-180mm-f45-sekor-z-w-en_3
@@NicosPhotographyShow thanks for the quick response, I am too used to buying cameras on ebay.
I was too. Now i only surf Kamerastore. Its not good for my wallet.
What is the lens that can shoot both landscape & portrait?
I think a 90mm could be a good middle point. A 65mm can be a full body shot and a lanscape too.
Hi! First I love your video you explain it well.
So, recently I bought Mamiya RZ Pro II and as your guide seems there are no problem. But, there's something bother me when I change shutter below 250 it has similiar sound or speed as 250 - 400, also for the bulb speed my camera's shutter won't hold the shutter open. Need your opinion, is there any problem with my camera or it actually normal.
You might not have a working battery. Without a battery the shutter only fires at 400.
@@pablovi77 I already put the battery, but still got the same. And I use the normal shutter mode (white dot below the shutter).
That does seem strange, have you tried 1 second? If you want you can send me a video to my email to check that all the settings are ok. Its the name of the youtube channel at gmail.com
So the standard RZ67 body can use the newer rz67 pro ii backs and new Viewfinder??
The backs yes, the finder not so sure. But I could test it out.
Been wanting to get a 110mm lens for a long time but the price has gone up so much.
It can be easier to get a kit and sell the remaining stuff.
@@NicosPhotographyShow I did exactly that! Now I'm happily shooting with pro + 110.
This is my favorite camera of all time, I have the Mamiya RZ67 Pro II, with 5 lenses, two backs and a Polaroid back. It’s an absolute pleasure shooting through that huge focusing screen, although it’s hard composing with the waist level finder, since the image it’s flipped. I’ve taken some of my best photos with it. www.flickr.com/photos/32577294@N06/albums/72157665277233632 the last 8 on that album are with this camera.
I share your love for the system, my favorite by far.
How would you compare the RZ to the RB? Why is the RZ preferred? Thanks. Great content.
The RZ is electronic and the RB mechanic. That is the biggest difference. I like the RZ a little better for some reason, but dont think less of the RB.
RZ can be equipped with tilt-shift adapter, in which case you need to use short-barrel lenses. RB doesn't have that option. IMHO that is the most important difference between RB and RZ.
Very true.
Which prism has the biggest viewfinder coverage?
Nicos, I have a Mamiya RB 67 SD. It has my 50mm lens stuck on it. Any advice as to how I can get it off?
Is the shutter open or closed? Could be a shutter issue that made it locked to the body. I would suggest a CLA somewhere.
@@NicosPhotographyShow Thanks for the advice. But, what is a CLA? Al
A CLA is Clean Lube Adjust. A check up.
Hi Nicos, do you know if the prism finder of the Pro II is compatible with the Pro I ? What is the difference between both finder version ? Is it worth it ?
Im not 100% shure. As the Pro ii has half speeds but the pro i doesnt.
@@NicosPhotographyShow I'll do some search and tell you what i found.
Awesome
@@crimsonbehelit Hi! did you find out if it's compatable? i'm interested on buying one for my RZ67 pro :)
@@unrealrebeca8308 Unfortunately, I found nothing.
can you put the Pro ii back on the pro i body?
Yes, its possible.
Hello, looking for a 110mm for my Mamiya, any clue where I can find a store? thx
Its not that easy, I recommend you check Kamerastore, Keh, B&H and Adorama for them.
@@NicosPhotographyShow thx :)
pleas do vido bout mamia
I will do one very soon.
@@NicosPhotographyShow thank
11:19 I have seen a few RZ67 body photos online where the threads/teeth on the focusing knob are broken/worn out.
I have seen ther pics too, still havent seen one in real life or heard of any friend that uses one that has such issues. So I wanted to make it clear it can happen, but a few negative "reviews" end up making it have a bad name, if that makes sense.
Is the body made of metal or plastic?
I would say metal core and plastic exterior. But not 100% sure.
How to focus accurately
Hi, Are you sure that we can use RB 67 prism on RZ 67?
I will make 100% sure if they work asap.
Oh I am sorry I have rz67 pro ii, so I was thinking about that.
This or the 645 Super?
Whats the blue ring on the lens for?
Its the depth of field scale. You need to adjust it by hand, but if you are looking for sharpest pictures its practical.
Nicos Photography Show oh ok, so it’s just a scale but doesn’t really do anything
@@adrianz3233 exactly. A passive chart.
Did you mean “half stops?”
Probably.
When they don't even know what half stops are...
Luckily I’m 6’2 230lbs and chop fire wood with an ax for two hours a day, so I’m not worried about heavy
Damn, yeah, this camera will feel great with you.
Nicos Photography Show great I need me some medium format
*coarse and fine focus
Words dont always come easy, thank you!
18x usd for body only... Sounds like heaven now
Mamiya best 6x6 camera? Hasselblad fanboy triggered!!
Hao I debated these too cameras for so long... eventually went Hasselblad for the smaller travel size and no electronics. Bellows close focus for portraits on RZ67 would be nice though and larger negative... and cheaper prices!
@@bthemedia I went through the same process and agree with you on those points. The RZ could be a nice option however, I also chose the Hasselblad for it's small and classic design. Think both systems are great.
Not the best 6x6, but man the features it has add a lot of value for my work. Will make a video showing why, but most of it is bellows, and cheaper lenses.
Exactly my thoughts! I couldn't settle for either so I have both. ;)
The Hasselblad is to me the smallest SLR system and that is a huge plus.
Nico, why do you own so many RZs for? You don't need so many, do you? Think about THE OTHER PEOPLE
I teach film photography workshops, also dont believe all you see on the internet, they are not all mine. ;)
@@NicosPhotographyShow Ah ok, fair enough then :D
amazing video, but the sound of the lens (the one shot this video on) focusing is absolutely infuriating at least for me
Im sorry that got in the way of enjoying the video. The mic was pretty far away from the camera but will try to minimize it for future videos.
How much you selling? lol
The only thing I would sell in this video would be the tshirt ;)
hahaha
I've been scammed so much on ebay. All of them were broken bodies
So far I have been very lucky with the Mamiya bodies from Ebay. But I understand it can be frustrating.
@@NicosPhotographyShow I was hoping the video would have tips on buying the correct one. I've even paid close to 1k for an RZ67 and still find out it's not working
As I havent had issues with buying I wouldnt feel prepared to give much advice. Sorry.
@@chrishipop5 Where are you buying from? I see a lot of cameras coming from Japan. I have never purchased a camera all the way from Japan but the Japanese have a good reputation for taking care of their gear (of course I can't validate that).
@@Being_Joe I was getting crap stuff from american spots, but I finally got an RB67 instead and it works for me
you bought it for 100 dollars, but now this camera in ok condition goes for 2000 dollars, so your point doesn’t stand anymore
The buying advice doesn’t change despite the price. But yes, prices have changed a lot. The camera itself hasn’t changed or the lenses.
This information is still relevant regardless of price. You should think about the logic of any comments you might want to make.