How to Install Starter Shingles
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- čas přidán 17. 04. 2020
- On today’s video of how to shingle a roof, we will be going over the installation of starter shingles along eaves and rakes.
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First time shingling...this series extremely helpful. You explained how to and why without talking down to us, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
@YourAverageRoofer hey dylon,I was wondering for places where high wind is a factor. Is there any other addition steps you have to do so the first layer of shingles don't blow off..or is a starter strip good enough..?
Full Tar Adhesion sounds like a metal band.
Great video!👍🏼
You really nailed this tutorial! I do a couple of small roof repairs a year. Laying the tar strips together makes total sense, something I wouldn't have thought of. Thanks! 👍🏻
Nice video! I have roofed my share of farm buildings but it's infrequent and I tend to forget how to roof in the in-between times. This was a great refresher! Thanks for putting this out there!
Same. It's only every decade or so I actually roof lol
Great video series! I couldn’t have reroofed my old shed by myself without this awesome video series with so many detailed tips.
You cover all the basics. Glad to see you know your stuff.
Thanks again Dylan. This video and your "How to properly start shingle courses" helped me today with our new garden shed
I just noticed he gave us the bird at 2:15. I'm just starting this part on my shed. Very good video.
i like how you point out some of the common mistakes like joints lining up and the leaks that can cause along with nail spacing. a screwed up my first room simply because i didn't know nails should be 4-5" from a joint and really no less than 3. water creeps towards the nails when they are right next to joint lines and 5 years later you have the drips and nails that look like they were submerged in salt water
I'm 60 years old and looking to re-shingle my farm house to save on labout costs. Never don it before. This video was awesome! I don't think there's anything 'average' about your quality of work. Well done!
I'm in the same boat as you. Too bad we don't live close by so we can help each other. Mine came in a 32K to remove a layer of cedar and asphalt on a 1700 sq ft home that is 4/12 pitch with a long ranch roof with no alcoves or anything. I just turned 70!
Thanks for the video. I have to put a roof on my shed tomorrow and this helps a lot. Little nervous about getting on the roof though.
Very easy to follow your instructions. Great job.
Wow, what a fantastic tutorial on how to install starter shingles! 🏠👏 I've been wanting to tackle this project myself, and your video made it look so easy and straightforward. Your step-by-step instructions were clear and concise, and the visual demonstration really helped me understand the process better.
Thank you Dylan you're a great roofing instructor for the DYI!
You guys are lucky , in central FL we need to nail dripedge every 4 inches and put tar on it all around , difference is we don't put starter going up, it's way faster that way
Dylan,
Thank you for making these videos. Extremely helpful for a novice like me.
@youraverageroofer great video very helpful, the only tip i have for improvement is on your starter strips on the corners put the bottom starter then gable one over the top so just flipped from how you did it. Water runs downhill. Really great video though!
Good vid. Very well explained. And you explained why you DONT do things. Such as not lining up the shingle and starter lines.
Andrew Bortolini I always try to explain why not to do certain things and the consequences of doing so, just helps with understanding from a students point of view.
Of course you always start your starter with a half so it wont fall even with the finish shingle
@@Average_Roofer can i spread turbo polyseal over the nails to stop leaks
I’m not a professional roofer by any means but I’ve never put my starter upside down. This is an awesome video
great video. thank you for taking the time to help the common person to try to do it yourself.
Good job man, I watched your shingle video too, very good as well I will be doing this tomorrow morning so I really appreciate this clear video.
Needed a refresher since i haven't done roofing since AIT very informative and easy enough for a soldier to get
Thanks for this series I'm using your videos to do shingles on my shed for the first time ever
Thanks for this bud, I’m helping a friend roof a small shed tomorrow and I couldn’t remember if you put the nails in tar strip or not.
You are very professional with your attention to detail.
Very helpful! Starting a small roof soon and this was much needed! Thanks!
You have the best videos! You tell and show without all the extra talk some youtubers do. Thanks
This was nicely done. Good production values. Clear, unhurried audio.
Hey just wanted to take a moment and thank you for the instructional videos you make because they have been a big help to me, you are my go to. Thanks again.
Jim P
I'm not in to hand nailing, but it's very satisfying watching and hearing this guy do it.
Thank for the detail information, great video explaining the methods used and why.
You are an above average roofer. You have your own CZcams channel!!
Don't sell yourself short.
You are an excellent teacher.
Amazing tutorial man! Keep up the good work!
This guy seems like the best roofer
Extremely useful video and strait to the point . Thanks !
For a novice homeowner learning, this was is what I needed. I didn't like the cutting of shingles on the roof. In regards to the starter strips in the corners, how about cutting them at a 45 so you get less of a bump on the ends? Thanks for the video, no BS, well done.
If you prefer to cut the 45, do it. It won't be noticeable if you don't tho
Yes very helpful thank you. Can you or have you made a episode with shingling in valleys? Thanks again time to smash the like button
These are some really great points!
Thanks for your videos man. There are helping me… A LOT!!
I’m trying to roof my little tiny chicken coop with remnant shingles from friends. Tried to start today after doing tar paper and the drip edge. Its not pretty but... I’m learning. I tried starting the shingles today and realized I just be missing something and it was the starting shingles. Lol. Your videos are super helpful. Thanks. You also just taught me how important the tar strips are. I’ll send a photo if it works out. Thanks again.
claymonsterpottery send your finished photos via email to YourAverageRoofer@gmail.com 👍🏼
I found your video to be on point and precise. You will laugh, but I watched your videos prior to roofing a dog house. If I am going to do something, I like to do it right, even on a dog house.
I staple them in with my hammer tacker saves nails. Quicker application and the nails from the shingles fasten them down. No dragging the air hose around. Thanx 4 your video.
Look at all the great comments this is getting! Keep it up. I am looking for all the things I can do wrong now. I know there are tricks and tips that people get from experience. Looking under rocks for them.
STRAIGHT TO THE POINT AWESOME!
Your vids are so much more professional than the bdr
Great video, very informative!
Great video! What do I do when I get to the ridge?
Thanks for the videos! Great help.
That was a great video!
The best way to start the starter shingles along the corners at the rake and eave is to 45 degree cut both starter strips. Then they both are flush with each other. There both flat on the roof and the tar strip will contact itself to both shingles firmly.
Just what I needed today.
Thank you so much! I purchased the started shingles and thank to you I feel confident that I can shingle my gazebo. Any additional advice for an octagonal shape roof? 🙂
You are so welcome!
thanks so much for video. branch just fell through my roof. so i have lots of work ahead of me. now to learn how to do the sheathing.
There is is a video on my channel for that. I’ll tag a link to you.
czcams.com/video/wnPsUNeENFA/video.html
You have some great videos! I have a question on the starters I noticed you ran the gable starter first then overlapped at the bottom wouldn’t you run the eve first then run up the gable just so water would shed properly? Thanks
Thank you for your experience and knowledge
nice video, very well explained and why!
Yes ! Simple and practical
Very, very helpful. Thx for posting this.
Now I know what my roofer did wrong.
Great video. Thank you!
On the Gable end the starter strip should probably be on Top of the lower one because of the path of water
Interesting..hmm..as it flows it should go..well I guess 905 is Ontario, Canada! it's probably a base that is covered which doesn't matter..I take the 3 tab shingles en just cut umm! but who says ya can't get out a caulk gun with a roofing tar tube in it! (shouldn't HAVE to I guess!)..and did he build that roof to MovieSet this Presentation!
I don’t think that matters as much as the paper and flashing underneath it. I believe you’re just as like;y to have wind-driven water moving in at this location. If water happens to drain down under the shingle above the starter strip AND under the starter strip (you probably have other issues to deal with), the paper and flashing are still going to drain water off the roof.
Would it be better to put the rake edge shingle on top but cut out a sliver at its bottom to expose the other shingles tar? I know a great deal of consideration goes into overlapping the roof materials correctly so just wondering if there's a way to have these overlap that way too
Thank you, very helpful!
Great teacher !
THANKS ,BUDDY ....GOOD INFORMATION !!!!!
Getting ready to do roofing on my shed and your video was very helpful! I Hulk smashed that like button!
Thien Nguyen Thank you! If you need any help or advice feel free to DM me on Instagram @youraverageroofer
@@Average_Roofer Dylan, how long should the nail be and how long should it protrude through the roof?
This is really helpful man, thanks!
Glad it helped!
Great video what do you do at the ridge? Just butt the two gable starter strips at the ridge? Or should one starter strip go over the ridge
- Gundy to be 100% honest. You can do it either way. As hip/ridge shingles are going to cover it regardless.
Last time I shingled a roof,we just rotated the shingle 180°, presto! There's your starter strip! Of course you offset the first row so the seams doesn't line up.
Never heard of a actual "starter strip" before!😁👍🇨🇦
Doing it your way the tar strip is not on the edge of the roof.
Bottom course would not seal and could potentially blow off.
@@contractorjay5062 . Double nail,and we are in a little clearing in a forest, but far enough so a tree can't hit the house.
Don't get half the wind that's at the road beyond our little sheltered spot...
Only lose shingles when I shovel the roof,don't know when to quit and leave some snow on top of the roof!🙄
Biggest problem is we suffer sun damage on the back,front roof wears fine...🤔
Thanks for advice. Finished product.
Came out great. I tried to add a photo . Didn’t work. Thanks
Very very good. Thank you. I will do as I see.
Thanks a mill bro great video I did it on my kids playhouse
Keep up the great work
Thank you!!
Thnx man great vid.
Great Videos Thank you so much now am like a pro
Would suggest using a self adherring waterproofing membrane on the eaves and gables. They should extend the the starting edge of the drip edge in case you are in snow country and have gutters. The underlayment should lap the drip edge in either case to prevent water from running back and soaking your deck.
gary24752 use ice and water shield along all eaves, gables and valleys making sure they cover 18” inside any heat bearing walls. Under the drip edge along eaves. And over the rake edge metal.
@@Average_Roofer In your earlier video "How To Install Drip Edge on a Roof", I think you said the opposite ... in that video, I think you said the drip edge goes under the underlayment (or ice & water shield) along eaves and on top of the underlayment at rake edges. Please clarify because I want to make sure I understand correctly. Thanks.
Gracias from Texas
Any time
What about the tar on the shingle? Will that not adhere to the upside architectural shingle?
Awesome vid
Great video
My question do I have to put starter shingles up the gable
What is the reason to put starters up gable lm replacing the sheeting and shingles
I’m building a chicken coop with a lean to frame roof. I’m assuming I just need to run the drip edge all the way around but should I start my starter strips on one side like you did? Is there anything special I need to do at the top of a lean to?
Would it be wrong to miter the rake and eave starter strips at the corner so that the tar strip is consistent all the way around?
Good job Dilly
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We just had our roof reshingled on Saturday. On the quote, it said that there will be 2 bundles of starter shingles. But when I saw the actual job being done (I took pictures), I noticed that they installed architectural shingles flipped the other way (rotated 180 degrees) on both the gable and eave ends. They are Certainteed Landmark. Does not using proper starter shingles void the warranty in any way?
I recently cleaned out gutters on my roof. I noticed that there was no starter shingles installed. The first course was the first full shingle. I also noticed that this first course overhung the drip edge anywhere from 5/8" to 1". This caused that first course of shingles to droop over (bend, curve, whatever) in the hot sun. The home builders roofer said they were installed per manufactures specs. Any opinions out there?
The one inch overhang is normally used when you have a 1x2 trim board fastened to the facia to cover the flashing.
I like watching your videos but on the starter strips what do I do when I get to the peak of the roof do I just wrap it around the top and continue down the other side
wondering the same thing. did you find out abd if so can you share the awnser with me
Good vid man
So many videos show the starter strip as a shingle rotated 180 degrees. This puts the adhesive tab five inches away from the bottom of the first row, increasing the chance of wind lift. Cut the tabs off if using a regular shingle as a starter and install with the adhesive at the roof edge. This video clearly shows the correct way a starter strip has the adhesive at bottom of the first row.
I got to redo an old front porch roof. It's in constant shade. Does the adhesive still melt, work ?
@@LiftingwithGrandpaCharlie Most asphalt shingle manufactures require that a specialized adhesive is manually applied to each shingle if temperatures are below 40 degrees Fahrenheit. If shingles are applied below 40 degrees without the specialized adhesive, the manufacturer will void any warranty. Above 40, no problem.
@@brianw612 Thanks !
Very good video I'm a framer and I want to learn how to roof👍👍👍👍
Anthony Z I will be doing 2 videos every week on how to install roofing systems starting with shingles and moviegoing up to metal and flat roofs.
Hey man. Great videos. Im a framer in Ottawa. About to do my own roof at home, first time doing shingles.. If I were to use just the regular shingles i have in bulk as my starter strip, could i not just put a bit of roof cement down to make up for no tar strip? I was also hoping to reuse my flashing..Seems to be in good shape still. Is that doable you think? Appreciate the content bro keep it up!
You can reuse the flashings, and you can user shingles for starters.
Just ensure the tar side it up. It’s not the end of the world as you could use any shingles as a starter. It just helps with wind resistance
@@Average_Roofer Thanks man appreciate the response. Just finished my roof. First one ever. Went very well. I think ill do some more sometime!! You got a new subscription 👍🏼
thanks for knowledge good videos
I know it's probably a bad idea but what's your thought on architectural shingles on a double wide with 2x2 trusses ? Otherwise I guess it would be good old 3 tab shingles.
It's not a bad idea. The weight difference is insignificant
Hello, when adding another starter shingle. Do they overlap or go up against one another?
No overlap. Just butt in tight.
I've always wondered why not put tar strip facing down?
Better at the bottom if your starter glue can bond with the shingle glue. Up north nails hold down the starter, and the starter and shingle glues bond together. Down south we put roofing cement on the drip edge then lay starters in it, so the cement and nails hold down the starter, and shingle glue and starter glue bond together.
I did I roof on a garage on my summer cabin, and I failed to put down a starter strip, dumb mistake I know but never done a roof before, any adhesive you would recommend that I go back to adhere that first course?
Shouldn't the gable starter overlap the eve starter?
Love the info and tips. I've done a roof or two, with other people. Not my every day job. But I was taught to overhang starters and shingles 1 inch off drip. Any particular reason you do a quarter? Or what would you say could be bad or good about an inch?
It's an eyeball thing. I bet his 1/4 inch ends up being 1/2 inch most of the time. I wouldn't go more than 1 inch though. Heavy rain can overshoot the gutters, and gutters are difficult to clean if you can't fit a gloved hand into the gap.
When the water runs 1 inch past the drip edge metal, gravity and momentum constricts water from turning 45 degrees creating a second drip edge. If the forces of the wind turn the water , the underneath metal drip edge blocks the water.
@@CardinalEgan gloved hand? Just use your hand and save your gloves.
I never did more than 1/4". No need.
Did u do a video for the ridge cap install?? I looked on your channel and didnt see a video
SKYNET recording it tomorrow.
So is the drip edge suppose to be installed under tar paper or ontop
Would it not be better to have the gable starter strips go over top of the eve starter strips? That way if water gets on that gable strip it has a way out instead of going under the eve strip?