How strong are the Springboks ahead of Rugby World Cup? | Craig Ray
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- South African journalist Craig Ray joins Shane & Dan on #OTBAM this morning to give insight into how Ireland's Pool B rivals South Africa are shaping up ahead of the Rugby World Cup.
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Craig Ray - Always spot on
Boks started playing the world cup in 1995...won it Three times...write them off at your peril...the pool of players in SA is immense...Rassie developed huge depth in the squad...just a matter of picking the correct combinations.
It really isn't "just a matter of picking the correct combinations".
@@ciaranoconnor4027 Actually, it is.
Umm SA A and B sides have been poor so it won't matter what combination you choose
@@monunyabidness5949 Nope. The players have to know each other inside out. They need to know where they have to be exactly, as per the plays and plans of the coaching staff. The outhalf needs to know where all the pieces on the board are and he can't to that with combinations that are not tried and tested. You lads should step away from the keyboard and stop talking crap at people. Read more, write less.
Springboks have three world cups. Two were clear tin arses and one was legit.
Caleb Clarke got red carded during a Super Rugby match for the exact same action, that's an instant red card
sorry the AG player did nothing wrong
And at least 4 weeks Suspension....for the player and the referee
@@andregeldenhuys7737so why did he get 2 weeks suspension? For his perfect performance 😂. It was reckless and dangerous
Whoa there...do you know how much head contact there is during a match ? Every time an attacking player goes low into contact there is some likely hood of head contact
Jean Klein is massive and must definitely go to the RWC. Same with Andre Esterhuizen
As a Bok fan I would be more confident if we had a better back up to Pollard. Libbok and Willemse are not world class yet. Without Pollard we would have lost to Wales in the semi final of 2019 (19 - 16). One thing currently in our favour is that we are only at our best when we are considered underdogs. Last Saturday against Argentina wasn't that surprising because in almost every game where we are expected to win we are mediocre. It has always been that way. The underdog narrative is growing, which certainly counts in our favour. The more we get written off the more we want to fight back, but at the moment only Pollard can orchestrate that aggression all the way to the final. We'll see what happens in the warm up games, but we could have run out of time for Libbok / Willemse to rise up. I love how open this World Cup is. We live in exciting times.
Agree but not many options for the Boks at 10 right now. Not sure who else there is. Maybe Rob Du Preez?
@@11jsaid63Isn't Johan Goosen meant to be pretty good?
Honest and perceptive, view of where the Boks are! I feel the brains-trust haven't put all their no.10 jersey eggs in the Pollard basket! They've had plenty opportunities to give other 10's the minutes and experience to grow, but chose not to........ With his fitness profile, Handre may not be able to impress his game on the team, in the crucial games......
You were underdogs to most against NZ
@@JacoJohan46664 not sure what's happened with him
They will be a handful as usual. The only concern for Ireland and the ABs with a high phase game is that the likes of Marx and Kishtoff are so good over the ball so a Accurate clean out is crucial.
Plenty of teams have players that are good over the ball. NZ are no slouch in that department.
Both teams are permitted to seal off so they will be fine.
@@jacqloock and the boks don't 🤣🤣
@@murraysmith595 They are penalized if it looks subjectively to the totally unbiased referee (who absolutely doesn’t bear any grudge against Rassie) as if any one of them might perhaps have considered thinking about the idea of considering sealing off, perhaps.
They havent helped SA beat NZ much
Very, very strong except for the minor absences of Pollard and Am which is unfortunate but still the Springboks have a squad that can beat anyone on any given day.
Southern hemisphere 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
Northern hemisphere 🏆
Let that sink in a little bit.
Springboks have small issues to fix.
We have a team. A very good team.
Its just a matter of finetuning.
I trust the leadership to analyse and fix the issues.
Boks...Boks...Boks!!!
I believe the head I jury incident ,the decision was made because who the player was who suffered severe concussion
If that head contact had been a barret or someone from ireland or france the boks would've gotten a red card for sure
There was a similar incident between AB's and Ireland where Matt Hansen was poleaxed by an AB player attempting a block after a kick ahead. I think it resulted in a yellow card. This one was worse than that incident I thought. Definitely a red card to me.
@@kiaoragin I saw the incident,the player that suffered the head injury is a young player.The Argentinian player was older and should know better.
Charging down in such a reckless way is not only a red card and a criminal offence of GBH causing serious harm.
There have always been significant upsets in the World Cup, and I anticipate the same for 2023 . Both Scotland and Italy have the potential to cause surprises. In the 2023 six nations, France only managed to beat Italy by five points, indicating their competitiveness.
It wouldn't be surprising if Scotland defeats either Ireland or South Africa, taking a notable victory. Similarly, Italy might achieve an unlikely win against France or New Zealand. The point is, we should expect unexpected outcomes and shocking results during the 2023 Rugby World Cup.
In previous World Cups, top teams might have escaped with losses in the group stage. However, the current World Cup's setup suggests that any unexpected defeat could lead to top-rated teams failing to progress beyond the group stages.
Italy will finish 3rd in pool A and Scotland will finish 2nd in pool B.
@@JaemanEdwards What an incredible rugby brain you have 🤣Italy... clearly they will finish third, great prediction that 99.99999999% of planet earth would predict, thank you for the revelation and much appreciated. If Scotland finish second in pool B please come back to this thread and demand an apology. In another comment you mention that Scotland will eliminate Ireland in the quarters.... whahahahahaha 😂they can't meet them in the QF's. Go comment on a cooking channel please
@@JaemanEdwards Who will finish 1st in Pool B do you think? Who do you think will fall out, South Africa or Ireland?
@@JaemanEdwardshow many RWC have you watched? I mean I watched RWC since 1995, and I can tell you for sure Italy and Scotland 🏴 are not going to cause any upsets. And Ireland is not beating the Boks and So are the French. Boks top their group and ABs top their group. Wake up people stop wishful thinking
@@gysgijsbers4202 Springboks
We should have dominated since 2019, but nienaber is too defense minded to advance our game. Hopeful that we can do well but im expecting SA to rebuild well in 2024 with the old guard retiring. We have to accept thar we are not at the same level as france ireland and nz right now. If we can peak we will win this wc but i havent seen enough to suggest we are on track.
Springbok here this rugby world cup is anyone game ❤
Never underestimate the boks! They play for so much more than rugby!
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No, please do underestimate the boks.
yes its called cash!
@@iamnutty8471Yea, unlike the rest of the world who play for free.
No worries South Africans will ways massively OVERESTIMATE the boks. One win and ….
I don't see the Boks advancing further than the QF's.
They will probably be either 1st or 2nd in their pool (assuming Scotland don't peak on the day).
In the QFs they face either France or New Zealand - no easy feat!
Then you need to open your eyes and focus 😆😂
No easy fear for France or New Zealand either
No World Cup is easy. But can we really judge what's going to happen in the World Cup by what happened in the warm up matches? After the warm up matches in the last RWC, Ireland was sitting at no 1 on the ranking...
@@mariusmarais9750 Nee ouboet - ek glo nie ons gaan die SFs haal nie!
Same could be said of france and new zealand as well.....wont be no easy feat to face the boks....not in a world cup
SA have a problem with scoring points.
Apparently good enough back to back world cup winners and 4 times world CHAMPS in 8 attempts a 50% strike rate.
Hi Craig !
I imagine the Boks would prefer to play France in the QF, should they get out of their pool. The last two games don't exactly paint a pretty picture.
They will face France as the All Blacks will win pool A.
I agree
Keeping Going.... keep talking your uninformed smack about Our Boks.... for them it's rocket fuel 🚀....
Looking FWD to watching Our Boys playing your "Big 3".... particularly looking fwd to watching them smash Ireland 👍🏻👍🏻
The problem with the Boks when they play NZ is they always have a 10 minute bad patch where they concede a couple of tries
What concerns me about the Boks is their tendency to be caught cold so often in the opening stanzas. Yet we have more than a competitive pack.
Where did Hannon get the 1970’s top ? Bespoke Monaghan tailor or bowling alley ? 😂😂😂
Names on jersies will assist new watchers to the game. i think its a good idea. Also sell more jersies.
me too, been a fan ever since Wales adopted it for a spell between 06 and 08
Grant Williams knock out; i dont agree that any hit to the head should be auto RC. I do agree this was a RC, charge downs are best chest on, there's no reason to turn sideways giving hip-2-head & we've rightly seen RCs for it before. RCs should be for foul play and the experimental "20min then replaced" card should be added. Maybe more complex but RCs are ruining the game. Unlike a YC, a RC in the first 20 min is a totally different punishment to one in the last 20min.
Springbok rugby has been dipping for the last two rugby championship.couldnt beat All Blacks on Ellis park. Backline need big bulky runners.
*PREDICTION* (copy this & edit to reflect YOUR prediction)
QF1 : Winner of Pool C v Runner-up of Pool D ( *Australia* v *England* )
QF2 : Winner of Pool B v Runner-up of Pool A ( *All Blacks* v *South Africa* )
QF3 : Winner of Pool D v Runner-up of Pool C ( *Argentina* v *Wales* )
QF4 : Winner of Pool A v Runner-up of Pool B ( *Ireland* v *France* )
SF1 : Winner of QF1 v Winner of QF2 ( *Australia* v *All Blacks* )
SF2 : Winner of QF3 v Winner of QF4 ( *Argentina* v *France* )
FINAL : *All Blacks* vs *France*
RWC23 Champions = *FRANCE*
Agree with all that except I actually do think Ireland will beat France (so much pressure on France) Ireland will loose then to NZ in the final, watch out for Fiji , Georgia, Japan & Italy for a few shocks or at least pushing teams a lot fitter than people anticipating
Good points on the Women's Soccer team too 🤞🏾
Which of NZ or France would be Ireland's preferred QF opponent?
Personally, for the Boks, I prefer France in the QF.
FRA and NZ are both going to be incredibly tough but FRA in the final? They'll be near unstoppable in front of their home fans.
Think back to 2007, FRA beat NZ in *that* QF only to be beaten by England in the semi and getting pumped by Argentina in the bronze game.
This French group is a different beast but still, would rather get them in the QF.
France is definitely a boogey team for the All Blacks during RWC. France has ALWAYS been the ones to stop the All Blacks from achieving previous RWCs only failing twice. OUR RWC History was written from the first, RWC 87.
THE OPENER for RWC2023 will be the measure....All Blacks will be more battle harden but this is Frances home tournament.
Very hard to know at present which of France or NZ will be harder. They're probably the best 2 teams at present. With Ireland & SA just behind. I think Ireland has a huge challenge to win a quarter final, whichever of the 2 teams they face.
Ireland won't even make the quarters.
@@JaemanEdwards Ireland won't lose against SA and SCO. Could easily top group.
@@LionOnSea The bookies say you're right. But the odds of Scotland beating Ireland were too good to turn down. You won't make much money going with the favourites all the time. And I could see it happening. I made my bet before the master Stuart Hogg was ruled out. I was counting on him to fire that deadly scottish backline into pulling off a big one. If I knew he wasn't going to be there I probably would have changed my bet. I still think they have the potential. Unencumbered by expectations will allow Scotland to play free, which is where they are most dangerous.
The hoodoo is real. It's practically a scientific fact at this point. History is a bigger factor than you'd think. And the pressure on the shoulders of the number one team in the world will be immense. Intense, crushing, unbearable amounts of pressure that will play with their psyche. And Ireland always peak too early. They're as good as they're ever gonna get. The opposition still has room to improve. They beat the All Blacks in an historic series win in NZ, but that was the best Ireland side of all time against the worst functioning All Blacks side and coach of all time. And they still almost took it.
Things have changed..
The ridiculous thing about head contact that is never considered is when a team is 1 metre from the try line, on every occasion there is repeated head on head contact, shoulder to head contact with huge force and impact, makes a nonsense of the occasional debatable rugby incident contact that happens in other areas of the pitch.
Lol, "there's alot to take out of it when you remove the result..."
Yup, thats gonna work 😂😂😂
To be fair though, the same was said about our win over Argentina. We got the win, but remove that fact and look at exactly how we played and it tells a bigger story. So he's not wrong - the result is only half the story. Of course, this will not apply come the knock out stages but we're in the warm ups now.
I think what he means is that the All Blacks scored 15 points in the first 15 minutes (in a stunning patch of play), but thereafter, over the next 65 minutes both the Boks and the ABs scored 20 points each, so the last three quarters of the match was actually evenly matched.
@Karma-qt4ji
The result of any test match is the ultimate story mate, at the end of the day, the ledger now says 62 tests to 38 in favour of the All Blacks.
And mate, it's an 80 minute game, as they say.
@therealmrfishpaste
Sure bro.
See? You've even reduced the dominating first quarter to 15 minutes to make yourself feel better.
Don't play stupid and pretend you don't know what he means. You're better than that.
🏆🏆🏆🏆🇿🇦
For the last few years it been head contact red card, period. It's always like this with SA teams as everyone knows you can't beat them without a ref like this one.
Excuses
Wow, I've never seen a Saffa complain about the ref before.
@@Trajan2401Google:" referee fiasco sends out the wrong message". SA rugby just kept quiet at the time. They shouldn't have and should have exposed NZ and Australia. Two cheating rugby nations. No wonder we could seldomly win playing those two nations. You always employ the same mafia refs on your pay list. All NZ and Aussie refs and French and European refs. Not Argentina or Georgia refs. Argentina saw the same biased reffing against them. Georgia referee told the Aussie referee that SA did no commit foul play, but he just ignored the comment. Went ahead to give card.
Cheaters, not world beaters. SA is better than you cheaters. You also don't want to put SA referees in Rugby Championship because you are afraid that an email might fall into the wrong inbox by mistake. I am sur Marius Jonker is on some pay list because he is consistently poor as a TMO. How can such poor performance be rewarded for years with regular TMO job? Remember, Jonker is SAn. I wish SA will expose you one day and not be protecting you.
@@JaemanEdwardsYes, you're right, we should have complained in 2002 when NZ and Australia send an e-mail declaring that they will make sure we loose games against your two nations. Since then, it was always an unwritten rule. All young referees get the same message. Easy to spot.
Can you believe that we had a player out cold almost dead on the ground and your appointed French referee didn't stop play? That's how much you disrespect our lives even. Taking it too far now, for all to see. But I guess it is just a way to show SANZAR they are following protocol to blow against SA. And you NZ supporters are proud of yourselves for your actions.
@@sbok9481 Conspiracy theory. Interesting. 🤔
Lets be honest. The Bok coaching job is no doubt the hardest rugby coaching role in the world, but sadly even still, the team has regressed since 2019. Im sure Jacques and Rassie know this (and Jacques has never been an international level coach as shown in his results). They would never say it this to us fans though. They will rather die on that sword🙂
That's an incredibly stupid thing to say.Jacques smashed super rugby records as the best defence coach.He win a world cup as defence coach,defence wins world cups as you know.He won a lions series,New Zealand didn't.
Do you really think a team like Leinster would buy a dud coach.
@@markbrown-sb2zm I would be careful saying something is stupud and then going and immediately after that confusing being a defense coach vs being the head coach (completely different hence why he struggles as the Bok head coach). And this one isnt rocket science. Also so you are saying that Leinster couldnt have gotten it wrong? So on your logic, major sports brands have never gotten their coaches wrong ever? Sure you want to go down that path as a counter argument?🤣
No i would say Australia and Wales have a harder coaching job at the moment
@@Trajan2401 the fact that south africa has to select a team based on a skin colour and not purely on merit like other teams, combined with the high expectations of Bok supporters that they win, makes it the hardest rugby coaching job in the world..No other team has both of the above
@@thegoat4124You're right. Selecting on skin colour is wrong. The sooner they get rid of some of those useless white players the better. They need to stop relying on the quota system to make the team.
The Bulls only did that in finals btw.
Looking forward to an All Black Springbok FInal
Yes it's about time we had that matchup in the last match of the RWC
Unfortunately, the RWC 2023 draw is not setup to provide that fixture
Lollipops 🤦🏻
@paulallies Look again mate. It is possible. If all blacks top their group and we top ours we can meet them in the final.
The final that won’t happen.
referencing the grassy knoll . The fact is there is a hi chance that there was a actual sniper on the grassy knoll. The reality of a actual sniper changes the equation, its not a proppability that should be ignored.
We all know Oswald was just a scapegoat
Wouldn’t usually be a conspiracy theorist, but it’s very odd that the US government officially accepts the outcomes of two enquiries (Warren Commission and the House Committee) which come to completely different conclusions about what happened. It’s also very odd how major political/counterculture leaders of that era kept being assassinated by “lone gunmen” (JFK, RFK, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, even Oswald himself).
The Boks talking about defending the World Cup shows the wrong mindset. It is a new tournament and there is little to choose between the top 6 teams. From a Saffer - the AB looks like the form team
The charging of the scrum-half is as simple as the following question: Do we want to encourage this tactic, or not? If not, penalize, if yes, teach kids to do the same, and reward the behaviour.
They are not going to cause the top sides huge concerns. They'll be difficult to beat because of their physicality but they lack flair. If Pollard doesn't play then they may struggle. Scotland will cause them huge problems if they kick badly.
They are not going to cause the top sides huge concerns... whahahahahahahahaha 🤣What do you play on Saturdays, lawn bowls? Whahahahahahahahaha
@@glen1482 Bit of everything. You obviously don't see the frailties in the Boks. Set pieces not as they were. Been given a hard time in scrums. Back line defence missing too many tackles. High ball defence all over the place. Wouldn't be too confident of reaching quarters.
😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 a lot of people sucked into believing the Boks are this..the Boks are that...Rassie the master in deceiving people
@@riaanswart9973 I hope so for the sake of the tournament but they've got a lot of improvement to make.
@@saturdayplayer2492seems like you're one of the few saffas who aren't delusional you can see the writing on the wall
Our defence will get us to the semis and possibly the finals.
Yes I agree. But I’m still set on Semi’s
Your defence hasn't been great lately
The Springboks will be eliminated by France in the quarters.
@@JaemanEdwards That aged well!
I am a Saffa and I for one had no problem with the charge down incident. Our game has become so over regulated that it is almost not a contact game anymore. There was a kick and there was an attempt to charge it down which was partially charged down and then there was the unfortunate contact. Off course he turned in the air as contact between your nut sack and a head can be painful. Let's move - it was the right decision!!
Straight red card. If your block down involves jumping towards the head of an opposition player, that is reckless IMHO
what would have happened in the event he ducked and the attacker went over him and landed on his head. Hardly any one would be safe in this.
Why did he turn his back on the kicker? Isn't that at least reckless?
@@wavecycle Have you experienced the feeling of a kicked rugby ball hitting your nuts😂😂😂😂
The fact that he jumped directly at the kicker carried with it an inevitability that he would make contact with the player whether he got the ball or not. Jumping like that and turning sideways added a danger element to the kicker as opposed to a head on land-and-catch.
The incident was completely avoidable - all the jumper had to do was change his direction 5 degrees to jump past the kicker. That makes it reckless and dangerous and that means he should be red carded. FYI - it would also give a smaller chance of being hit in the nuts with a ball.... so that's no excuse!
Way too soft on the ref, he should have taken his time with this decision and he proved himself unqualified to ref at this level
How strong are we? Not very!
Genius. I had the exact same answer.
The boks are the boks…. Three world cups, they will be ready don’t worry about it…!!!!
I have a funny feeling that Scotland will catch the Bokkes off-guard and pip them. That will be the first big result.
Nah Nah mate we are the defending champions ✌🏿
Scotland's scrap is with Ireland to see who will join the Boks at the QF stage. Both Scotland and Ireland have no history in the RWC. They are both new kids on the block and don't you forget it son.
every World Cup has a surprise or 2. I hope this isn't one of them! :-)
@michaelmoynihan9591 boks and Scotland to go through paddies to blow it against Scots in last pool game.
I think after what happened to Scotland at the 2019 RWC they are going to turn up extremely determined to not let that happen again and are going to be extremely pumped. Ireland and the Springboks are going to be in for an extremely tough time against Scotland.
Why did people in radio think they need to speak differently to normal humans? “I’m delighted to welcome - TO the show this morning Craig Ray”. Why not just say “I’m delighted to welcome to the show this morning, Craig Ray” like any normal person. Never understood that.
Group exit anyone? New history for the Boks, hmm?
hm
Dont bet your money on that😂😂😂😂
@kaalvoet probably won't now haha after what they did to da All Blacks, fair play well done 👏
You got the history part right at least. loads of it: First team to win 4 RWC's. First team to win back-to-back WC's away from home.
@johnjames6620 I was right about new history at least haha
Our guys are just too inconsistent. There is an underlying panic in SA that we may not even make it out the group stages. Look, these Championship games are realistically just glorified warm up games, so I don't want to read anything into them too much. However, we just look so dead with the ball. there is little to no chemistry with our backline. Our forwards, at times look lazy with no real intensity. Again, it may be because they've been encouraged to just go in at about 75% effort, but even then we should be consistent.
Even in the opening game against Oz, we were not that great. They were just that poor. We're doing in 2023 what we did in 2015. Relying too much on the old guard that are, unfortunately, not impacting as much as the younger players would. It's way too late now to try something different. Pollard won't have match fitness in him if he returns and we are not in a group where we can afford a casual start. We have Scotland first, a tough game. Then Romania, a physical game. Then Ireland, the decider.
We have such depth but our coaches I feel have left things too late. I certainly don't write us off. On our day we can beat anyone, but our lack of consistency and any sort of fluid back line play leaves us as serious underdogs. Our kicking game, one of our traditional strong points, has also been shocking. NZ outclassed us in every single aspect with that regard.
I called it a few months back. NZ to win the WC. We will do well to reach a SF. Of course it all matters on what happens on the day. Going to be a very interesting WC.
Boks.are going to win
That decision was a disgrace, straight red card
Marx should be captain
Marx isn't even there...
@@Karma-qt4ji exactly
@@hanoitripper1809 You're confusing me. Marx is being rested along with a good couple of regular starters. Are you saying he should be there or that he should be captain for the RWC?
@@Karma-qt4ji i think he is the best player in the world and should start every game… but if he just being rested that’s ok.. as for captain for the WC Etsebeth, Siya, Marx, I don’t mind
@@hanoitripper1809 I don't think Etzebeth is a great captain but obviously he is one of our best players. How about Kitshoff if Siya isn't available? Kitsie did a good job captaining the Stormers...
Boks living of past glories. France and All blacks miles ahead,
Miles ahead.......really?? Seems like you've forgotten 2019 wcup
As an all black fan all i can say is , dismiss the Boks at your peril. They are our greatest foe and we know that they bring it when we play them. The WC is a knock out series and all it takes is a bad bounce, bad call by the ref or a bad injury and everything changes. The top four are pretty even. france with home advantage slightly ahead.
@@waynerockman1242 exactly 2019
@@martinfarrelly5196 and your point or maybe you don't have one. Past matches determin the ranking......right??
@@waynerockman1242 so where are you exactly in the ranking?
Womens football... when will women pack out stadiums?
Not very.....
I say Boks will lose to the Abs in the quarter finals
I agree
It’ll be France v SA & Ireland v NZ. And my god are SA in for one merciless beating up against the French
@@Will.Flavell it’ll be France and Ireland topping their groups with both NZ and SA bowing out in the quarters
@@PJGFCyeah 12 out of the 16 times the boks and NZ have made out of wc quarters. Only 4 combined for the 9 wc from nz and the 7 wc from sa. They both beat each other once in the quarters so technically only 2 teams have knocked the boks and abs out in the quarters. So you're suggesting that both of them will get knocked out when they rarely do. There is a reason 6 out of the 9 wc titles are held by NZ and SA. 3 each, and don't forget that.
@@jpfowlds5921 thanks for the history lesson. Focus on the now
The only reason people are questioning it is because its an irish ref. Same story as Sexton.
He should of been banned for 12weeks
Sexton wasn’t even on the pitch. 12 weeks me hole.
If it was an All Black they wouldve made sure the ban lasted till the end of the world cup but with Sexton being NH they found grounds for leniency
WR are the NH fanboys
In fact........
WR ❤ NH 🥰
@@Trajan2401
Sextons disciplinary was submitted by the EPCR to the EPCR independent panel.
The European Championship isn't a World Rugby event and they had no involvement in the process or the outcome.
Unlucky better luck next time 😂😂
Poor boks are only as strong as the referee in charge allows them to be...
Cleanest and most accurate team in the world yet get penalized for things the opposition are allowed to do...
World rugby are as corrupt as the South African government...
Bit early to get your excuses in, the RWC hasn't even started 😂
Getting in early with the excuses I see no class 😂
@TheRock90909 no dck head just bcoz we win does not mean there is not a serious problem with consistency....
Look at the facts not your sisters list of excuses why she won't sleep with you ....
Ppl like you should do the world a favour and watch soccer....
Pretty good ..they won it ...
Stop whining.... Chargedowns are an important part of the game and over whistling them will take yet another important part of the game from us...
It's a fast flowing impact sport with split second changes of angles by 90-100 kg hard Men... This emasculation of the sport is starting to mirror western Wokeism..