Harold Miner: “Baby Jordan” Why This NEXT MICHAEL JORDAN’s Career was OVER at 25 years old | FPP
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- He was given the nickname “Baby Jordan” in college. Not only did he bear a striking physical resemblance to Michael Jordan, he also had similar athleticism and dominated the college game as one of the best USC Trojans in Program History, with Sports Illustrated even naming his as the 1992 College Basketball Player of the year, ahead of Shaquille O’Neal, Alonzo Mourning and Christian Laettner. Unfortunately for Harold Miner when he got to the NBA, he could never get close to the Michael Jordan comparisons. His game may have been too one dimensional, and there were improvements that he could have made, but less talked about is how unstable his time with the Miami Heat was in regards to playing time, add that to the fact that he had a degenerative knee issue which started deteriorating as soon as he got to the NBA, and his short career makes more sense. But Harold Miner was one of the most exciting players during his short 4 year career, as his above the rim play was top notch, leading him to winning the 1993 and 1995 Slam Dunk Contests. He showed flashes, but could never keep it consistent, however, his circumstances were less than ideal, and maybe in another situation, we’d be talking about Harold Miner in a different light. Nonetheless, he handled all of the adversity with grace and walked away from the game in a better financial position than when he started.
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Minor’s dunk contest was dope too!
Robert Pack would be a good idea for another video
I was just thinking that! Underated player in the Nuggets run in the early/ mid 90's
@@RealBreakBreadFilmspack was Solid
That old Nuggets team was NICE!!!!!!!
Yes indeed, I thought of another Denver great, Michael Adams
Solid career
Harold Miner got drafted by the wrong team. I don't know why the Heat drafted him when they already had Steve Smith, Glen Rice and Brian Shaw getting so many touches
I'll always remember that dunk he had against UCLA.
Damn you James Forrest!
It was the worst case scenario for him. Kevin Lougherty was a former Jordan coach and fan boy who was offended by the nickname. It could have worked with Smith at one Miner at 2 and Rice at 3. Miner was ahead of Shaw until he got hurt in 94. I had an issue with Bimbo Coles who I thought was terrible.
@@1D4ever man, how much of a piece of shit do you have to be to ruin someone's career like that just because you're a Jordan fan. I love MJ, but that's just sick.
@1D4ever bimbo coles was a athletic hustle man that was high turnover prone when he played alot of minutes at the pg
Yep!
Facts, and Ron Seickly, if thats the correct spelling...
Injuries suck. I know Harold didn't have the kind of career he may have wanted. But he'll always have a few fans like myself that will never forget him. Especially during the USC years. Appreciate you Harold.
I still have this man’s Miami Heat jersey - got it in 4th grade! Bought stuff baggy back then so it might still fit.
That's awesome. #32 or #4?
Heat fan here since 88. You live in miami? Id love to buy that jersey from you
I have a USC 23 MINER jersey! I used to have HEAT 32, HEAT 4, and CAVS 4 jerseys! (I don't know what happened to them, though)
Miner made me wish I was left-handed, I was always rooting for this guy. I always felt he got the short end of the stick going to that Miami team, his rookie year numbers were solid, on a team that didn't have Glen Rice doing most of the shooting, things could've been different. And also, with today's medicine, I don't know if that "degenerative knee condition" would've played out like that. He would've fared better in today's league, I think, a bit ahead of his time for his own good. Very glad he's doing OK.
Great point. I was rooting for him since his rookie year the start of my tenth grade yr. While Penny and VanExel were my other favorite 2players coming into the NBA around then.
Maybe a Malik Sealy video soon..??
Yes def !!
I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Sonics and Blazers fan. I was SO high on Harold Miner! Getting Harold Miner basketball cards were a big deal, as they were worth money, back then. In 1994, when it was rumored that the Blazers would trade Clyde Drexler for Harold Miner, I wanted that SO much! The Blazers were no longer championship-caliber, and they needed a young prime time shooting guard. I thought Miner could have scored 18 ppg on a bad team, which Portland would have been in 1994-95.
Ha. I still got a 1995-96 Upper Deck Electric Court Gold version of Minor from when I was a kid. Always thought it was kinda funny, given his name.
206 tha CD CAYA Garfield Bulldogs
I'm a few years younger than you. I remember the Miner hype when I was a teenager in the early-mid 90s. The truth is, back in the 80s and most of the 90s, the general public really didn't know or understand what made Michael Jordan, well....."Michael Jordan". It wasn't just the raw talent and being 6'6, it was incredible mental fortitude and psychotic desire to win. There was one radio sports commentator back around in 1992 in my city who called it, they said Miner is 6'4 and Jordan is 6'6, and first and foremost from a physical standpoint it would be hard pressed for Miner to replicate everything MJ did in the NBA, and second and more important, this radio guy knew what most of us didn't, he went on and on about MJ's mental toughness. which as a little teenager back then I understood, but not really. Most people thought as long as a dude can do a leaner dunk, pump fake dunk, or rock the cradle dunk, well he's MJ. That thinking is still around today, now it's more "he's the next Kobe!".
I have a nephew in Seattle named Sean Hollins
@@troytaylor4996 is he a hooper
These mini-docs are great of yours.
I liked the weird wrinkles you used to get in rookie deals. The salaries definitely got out of whack, but it was cool seeing guys value different things in negotiations like more years vs more flexibility. Guys that got picked earlier taking less than others (like baseball picks still do) in order to get other concessions, etc.
I understood the response to how out of whack everything got, but I do get nostalgic when I see stuff like that 5th year clause Miner negotiated.
This guy would eat in today's era because it's a score first European style league. Back then it was a defense first, big man era. So a lot of big time scorers couldn't make
@@djohnson4321 simple
Such a lazy comment. The 90s was the worst era of modern basketball, because it was the expansion era. 6 teams added in 7 years. A flood of bums ushered in a short period of time
@@dantegood2195 Speaking from a guy who probably wasn't even born to have any idea of what he's talking about
@@dantegood2195The Dumbest comment made this year
@@1CHOZN7- The NBA added 6 teams in 7 years between ‘88-95. The play became slow and plodding with all the bad players thrust in the league. Anyone can watch a random CZcams video of 90s basketball and see how bad the talent was then.
The pace was much higher in the 80s and the scoring was as well. Just like now. So you’re saying the 80s game, pre 6 team expansion was bad?
I've been waiting for this one! In middle school he was my favorite player, and I was so sad at how his career panned out.
Me too man - back then as I am now u could only get live sportscenter highlights & maybe be lucky to see 5-6 USC during his 3year career @ USC
That pitta pat dribble was so kold to me...the left hand...he was kold at USC..shot out to Harold miner ...he was smoov!!!!
An article was just written about him on espn as his daughter is now a star athlete
I was honestly really relieved to see that he was responsible with his money and managed to have a good life after his body failed him. Good for him and his family.
As a native Miami fan since before the original arena was being built, I loved HM pick and was so excited after his first season.
Then, in the first game of his second season, I knew his career was over.
He could beat anyone 1v1 but as soon as a second defender showed up, he became a turnover machine. He lacked the vision to pass out of a double team and didn’t have the ability to dribble away as the second defender broke off to attack him. Every team after that first game simply doubled him as soon as he got the ball.
He could not find a way to defeat a double team. That plus he was a terrible defender and below average shooter. Short players were too quick for him and taller players were to strong.
He was a tweener who could jump out of the building but lacked vision and shooting touch. A liability on the court.
Again, few were better than Miner 1v1, but every other aspect of his game was below average. Once they figured him out, his career was over.
Great analysis - B4 watching this vid & reading your comment I was only going off memories how nasty he was but now I know why he never reached his potential
Fitting day to release this on MJ's bday 😂🎉
Best lefty dunker I've ever seen.
Dude never really took off. The Jordan comparison was crushing to some young players.
In baseball, the same thing happened when Todd Van Poppel was being hailed as the next Nolan Ryan.
@@kramalerav True! I remember all of the rookie cards of him being a big deal.
Great video! Always glad to hear when a player, despite shortcomings on the court, was mature off the court and has been able to provide for his family.
He had stupid bounce. You should review Rudy Gay, Josh Smith, Chauncey Billups and Jeff Teague
None of those guys would be considered forgotten.
@@evanjones593Josh smith would be considered forgotten
@@litjay3828 I would disagree.
@@evanjones593sadly josh smith n Jeff Teague are not talked about enough
if you ask me average sums up chauncey billups and star sums up bernard king who's in forgotten player profiles and if you ask me the best scorers ever are #1 legends wilt chamberlain #2 kareem abdul-jabbar #3 michael jordan #4 larry bird and #5 shaquille o'neal
Derek Fisher would be a great subject. Though overshadowed by the likes of Kobe, Gasol, and Shaq He was a stabilizing force on those championship Lakers teams. Like Horry he came up clutch in the playoffs, but unlike Horry he was consistently good throughout the regular season as well. A very productive 18 year career that included an amazing streak of playing an entire 82 game season for six straight years.
Wouldn't say ocer shadowed he fit his roll perfectly he was nice
You did an EXCELLENT job on this video. I liked how you went into deeper details compared to other content creators on his career. Looking forward to more of your videos, most definitely subscribing!
Great video, keep'em coming.
Billy owens, Charles Smith, reggie williams, Elton brand,corey maggette
I'm born raised in Syracuse & B Owens was a beast & I guess he was just lazy after he got that pro $ , a vid in him would be great too - I just saw the homepage & this guy has like 15 vids I wanna binge watch - all my fav players when I was in middle & high school
Being in nys back @ HM college days it was like this mysterious jordan like player , back then no utubing hilights & usc was rarely on so the lore & mystique grew - never knew why he wasnt a great pro , but thanks 2u i know now - so glad your vid came across my feed - really enjoyed it & took me back to my middle & high school days watching following sports - the vintage highlights shown make the content even better - thanks & much appreciated
I was at the rockets draft party when the crowd booed when the rockets drafted Robert Horry over Harold Miner. Yeah i think the Rockets made the right choice
The nickname alone was his undoing. Honestly, in that era, every time a young guard was compared to Jordan...it went bad. They needed to let these dudes develop and become their own players. "The next" (Jordan / Barkley / Ewing / Kareem / Dr. J) moniker undid a lot of promising young talents
Harold miner. Shortest MJ comparison and Shortest video
Rik smits is a player you should cover , if you havent already .
The Jordan comparison was so lazy. Other than the bald head a completely different vibe to his game.
Kendall Gill was more similar to Jordan.
@@FarnzworthIII Not really
@@FarnzworthIII Did you ever actually see Gill play? He played *nothing* like Jordan.
@@FarnzworthIIIGill was accused of copying Jordan’s style quite a bit. So no, they weren’t alike he just wanted them to be
Kendall Gill lives in my neck of the woods. 6' 3" is his height listing. I don't know that he is that tall.
Jordan's 6' 6" listing puts him in a different height category. Particularly if Gill's 6' 3" listing is too much.
Miner's 6' 5" listing is more even with Jordan.
Thank you 😊
Great vid. Harold seems like a solid dude.. deserved better.
Can you do a vedio on "Skywalker" Kenny Walker.
Miner had a dynamic bounce & grace to his iso dribble moves to finishes in the lanes and acrobatic dunks in open court or while in traffic. However the NBA exposed his non-existant outside shot and his lack of conditioning & speed to consistently defend both guard spots. VERNON MAXWELL would be another forgotten 90s player video to do
Yep...Mad Max!!
@daxterclark5092 max built and playstyle was very Similar to John Starks
Marcus Camby or Josh Smith video would be dope
I remember him on NBA jam 🤣🤣💯💯 those were the days lol
This is equivalent of somebody starting to rap n everybody going around calling him da next 2pac it’s always high expectations that break these young players
Brian Grant
Can you guys make a video that covers on Richard Hamilton? He was the leading scorer of the 2004 positions and little is none about his legacy and who he played with
Hamilton? He's not the most talked about player from that team but it's not like he's a forgotten man either. I remember him playing with MJ on the Wizards prior to that and let's not forget the guy made back to back Finals in 2004 and 2005. If fans don't know him, they should.
Also part of the legacy of Jordans terrible GM work, trading him for Jerry Stackhouse
Oj mayo next
I grew up w Harold! He used to practice a lot! Always dunking!
I sat behind this guy at my aunts 70th birthday celebration at the Oregon Zoo. I had no idea why he was there.
Going to Miami and injuries stopped him from being a good player. He’s still my favorite College player of all time.
Todd day would be a good one
Kurt Rambis would make a great video
CUPERTINO HIGH SCHOOL Alma mater! 🫵🏽✌🏽🤗🫡
Do George McCloud and voshon Leonard
Im glad it all worked out for him,he ended up being financially responsible while in the NBA as well as not having to damage his body and he's probably running some kind of business or something! But I think trying to compare anyone to any other basketball legend or any other sport for that matter can and will always make it worse for the athlete that's starting off in any sport! It doesn't always have to be Bird, magic or Jordan though unfortunately,this guy's story was about being compared to Jordan and I think all that b.s. needs to stop and let these people be their own person!!!
I'm a Cavs fan and I totally don't remember Harold Miner playing for the team (and wearing future Cavs player Shawn Kemp's number).
I had his Upper Deck Rookie card back in the day lol
If you haven't, do Michael Adams, he was amazing for a sec in the league for Denver (Nuggets) in the early 90's...
Derrick mckie , ricky pierce and billy owens are some suggestions for player profiles .
He was a fan favorite. Sad that his career only lasted 4 years. Glad to hear that he saved his money and is doing well. Keep on dunking!
If he was playing now he might have been an all star.
Good video...
You uploaded it on Jordan's Bday!😂😂
As a kid this was the first Baby Jordan comparisons I remember hearing about
I met Harold Miner in Vegas. He was super cool
The problem with lottery pick rookies in the NBA is that they were all looked at as saviors to the teams that drafted them. Miner should have been a valuable 6th man at best in the NBA. He never had the type of skill required to be a star in the NBA. I still remember USC losing to Georgia Tech in the tourney.
Actually he was the 6th man as a rookie he started the first half of 93-94 until he hurt his knees
While I was born in Seattle in 1973, one of my WORST life decisions was going to USC for my freshman and sophomore years. Nothing against USC, Los Angeles or California. I am a HOMEBODY, who should have gone to the University of Washington from the outset. But, a good thing DID come out of it: At the recreational building, I got to play pickup with Harold Miner. I threw him an alley-oop, which frankly wasn't hard to do, playing with Joe Schmoes. He also tried to teach me how to shoot. It's fine if he dominates the ball, playing with Joe Schmoes like me. But, when he did that with established NBA veterinarian teammates like Ron Seikaly, Glendon Rice, and Steve Smith, that naturally didn't go over well. "Harold Miner with the ball, teammates be dambed!"
you said you are a HOMEBODY and that TOTALLY ACCURATELY SUMS me up PERIOD because i am were and will be TOTALLY satisfied leaving my home or a MINIMUM of 23 hours a week and i LOVE LOVE going near the indianapolis motor speedway which previously had alicia silverstone ALMOST as much as calling lucky's which previously had denise richards
I had a friend that was a big Harold Miner Fan 😅😅😅😅 I Use To Have A Hollowgram aHarold Miner Trafing Card That's When He Was Playing for USC
He's still one of my favorites.
Glad to see he was okay financially after that. I love to hear about guys being wise and frugal and having themselves set up for a long time after. 12 millions seems like nothing compared to modern day yet its generations of money if used right.
Miner was a vertical/two feet jumper - similar to Vince Carter. MJ was one OR two.
Can you do a felipe lopez vid that kid was as hyped as lebron ( maybe i remember it differently )
Stanley roberts - that dude was just as much a beast as shaq imo( in college, idk why no production in NBA)
Who was a better pro the much hyped Harold Miner or the much hyped Billy Owens?
6:10 Chrees Meels!!
In college he was Baby Jordan but the league is totally different Monster 👻 👽. My guy tho❤
I forgot he played for the cavs 😅
7:59 Does this look like the face of someone whos about to sign a big NBA contract?
I always found it strange that Harold Miners Career and the Career of the Group called Onyx seemed to have a real life connection both big hits was Slam and the both careers were Shiesty to the Last Dayz then after him came an Attack of the bald headz he was the leader of
Chris Gatling please😊
Do a video on Eric Money
Can I get a few teams, Michigan fab five, Chris Webber,jaylin rose, Dwight Howard, think about it
We used to jump and touch signs
good one...why did he switch from #32 to #4?
To honor Joe Dumars he switched after Seikly was traded
ok...neva knew that@@1D4ever
@@Classicbasketballdvds Excellent channel content dude 👌🏾
Among 3 year college players in Pac-12 history, Harold Miner ranks second in points behind some guy named Jabbar
I hope to this day he's OK loved his game
Do Blue Edwards
Fuk yea 4got bout him
That free throw routine was ridiculous
I remember him being listed at 6’5”.
I would sometimes pick him on NBA JAMS.
Cool that he set himself up financially.
I was at school with him at the same time and only saw him once off the courts. I was hoping he would have a long career but Robert Pack ended up with a longer career.... USC is definitely not a bball school....
Nice cat! I'm a cat lover, so I always compliment people who are also cat lovers!
You should do Clyde Drexler
Why?
Hes the reason im a Miami 🔥 fan now...at 12years old i just knew my team had the next M. Jordan 💯♟️ and I don't regret it @ all..
That sucks when he slipped on a wet spot and re-injured himself I mean he could not catch a break. He was one hell of a dunker though.
Highland Elementary Legend.....blessings and well wishes to this king.....
His jersey is retired at Roger Park!
Dermarr Johnson would be a GREAT video.
I see th similarity; but was he 6'3"1\2 or 6'5"1\2??!! Did he grow while n th NBA? ALSO was Kobe 6'4"n highschool and then grow to 6'7" n th NBA?? 🧐
I remember Miner.......fizzle
Byron houston @ ok st would be a cool vid -
How about Tracy Murray and Don MacLean? I thought Tracy Murray would be the next Reggie Miller! I thought Don MacLean had a Tom Chambers like game.
At least Don McLean had a back up career as a musician.
Bye bye mrs American pie...drove my Chevy to the levy but the levy was dry....them good ole boys drinking whiskey and rye.....singing this will be the day that I die 😮
He could fly and could dunk, that is where the comparisons ended as the video said at the beginning.
Miner given that label was his death knell. I agree with another commenter that it was a lazy comparison, but I also put way too much pressure on a guy that I don’t even think had rounded out his game enough to warrant being in the NBA. He just wasn’t good enough.
Can we get a Doug Christie video please?
Doug was a versatile swingman and a Glue tough defender whom was a great team player
He reminds me of Dennis Smith
Do Walter Berry or Fennis Dembo
Yes, FD outta Wyoming - wonder why he didn't pan out ?