Destiny Lore - The Shadows of Yor & The corruption of the Weapons of Sorrow!
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- In Destiny's Lore there are guardians that have fallen the the corruption of the Darkness. The infamous guardian "Dredgen Yor" is one of the most terrible of these guardians. The Shadows of Yor have taken after him and have recreated the Thorn, his terrible weapon of sorrow.
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Byf predicted Gambit 15 months ago confirmed: 12:29
+William Pittman Eh, it was a pretty easy prediction to make. I made it too.
@It's Dev5516 I think I can listen to myself just fine. How about you take another look at my comment? Never said I predicted gambit. Said I predicted what Byf predicted.
@It's Dev5516 you just schooled @Michael Henry
Michael Henry if your so tired of this then just don’t reply because then you won’t have to take time out of your day to deal with this crap. Just my two cents, and honestly if you reply to something like this somebody on the internet will find something to criticise.
My question is why did I get the notification that you replied just now.
The story behind Yor, Thorn, Shin, and The Last Word are some of the greatest story telling Bungie has put into Destiny and is definitely a story worth telling as well as one I'd like to see more of. I'm a little sad that The First Curse isn't given a bigger role in the lore. I'd like to see more of it's story as well. As always, a great lore video Byf. Can't wait for more.
Food for thought. Yor grafted the bones of the hive onto his weapon, but they never specify the type of weapon Rose is before the bones are grafted onto it. Could The first Curse, the start of the fall before Yor, have been his weapon before it was corrupted? It's the twin of The Last Word, and Shin and Yor were best friends. Perhaps the weapon schematics were lost because of that twisted past in which he corrupted the weapon into a weapon of sorrow.
actually Jaren Ward was best friends with him xD scratch that part, but it still applies
Hmmm I've never thought about that. It's an interesting theory. The Grimoire for The First Curse is very open ended, but... I'm not sure how much truth can be pulled from that. The Last Word and The First Curse have the exact same frame and style with the only noticeable difference being the finish on the weapon. Thorn on the other hand looks structurally different from either of them. Coupled with Rose being capitalized in the Grimoire as well leads me to believe it was its own weapon.
Where did you find that Ward and Yor where friends at some point? The closest I can find is Ghost Frag Thorn 4 where Yor's Ghost calls him a monster to which Yor replies, "An old friend once saw me as the same. He was right, and, had we met earlier, so too would you be." Suggesting that the old friend he's referring to would not have been Jaren, whom he had just killed, but someone known to him before he met his Ghost and became a Guardian. But then... if someone called him a monster then, was he always fated to become a "monster"? What did he do back then for someone to have called him a monster? Why then, would he be chosen by a Ghost to wield the Traveler's Light? There are still a lot of mysteries around these three hand cannons so I won't dismiss completely the possibility, but I can find more reasons to think of the Rose as it's own weapon than I can The First Curse theory.
Thanks for the interesting thoughts!
perhaps the ward theory was not correct, but as for The First Curse being his Rose, go to Legend:Rezyl Azzir - The Triumphant Fall. Then look at The First Curses description. I think this might be a witty repertoire, but it says "Rezyl’s cannon was loaded and ready to fire as if an afterthought." Then you go to the first curses description and it says " when death is an afterthought".
I actually had to go look that Rezyl card up because I don't have it for some reason.... anyway I saw what you're talking about. Like you said it could be just clever wording but that is a big coincidence that doesn't occur very often in the Grimoire (from my experience anyway). What really gets me thinking though is this line when he's fighting the Knight, "He smiled beneath his helm, then spun his Rose with a confident Hunter’s twirl, before steadying his aim and fanning its hammer one more." That sounds exactly like The Last Word to me. The First Curse does have that "Hunter's twirl" animation when drawn but isn't fan fired like The Last Word. With the Grimoire being so open ended on The First Curse it's a real possibility that Rezyl wielded it once upon a time.
Thanks again for the thoughts and opening up a new frontier in the lore for me to look at.
Does anyone else think that Rezyl Azzir's other weapon, the auto rifle called "Inferno", which was lost when he was captured by the Hive, could be the Necrochasm? It's Grimoire card says, and I quote, "...a lost Guardian's weapon was altered by the Hive in an attempt to fuse their own dark understanding with humanity's mastery of war." This seems to indicate that this gun was once a weapon of a Guardian, much like the Rose. Secondly, the card states that "Any Guardian who comes across the weapon must ask some very simple questions with some very complicated answers: Is your Light strong enough to stand, even briefly, in full gaze of the Hive's abyss? Can it handle what has died and been reborn in those shadows?" This quote seems to indicate that this gun was remade into the jagged Weapon of Sorrow it is today; again, much like the Rose. To me, this tells the tale of the Inferno, a legendary weapon wielded by one of the greatest Guardians to ever live, that became twisted and corrupted by a sinister power, much like what happened to Azzil, who would eventually become Yor.
Thom Beacock wow I never thought of that
I've thought of the same thing . Could be .
I'm calling it now: these Shadows and Shin Malphur's likely involvement with them is just a setup for exotic quests for D2 versions of Thorn and TLW.
Edit: Huh, kinda called it? And maybe the Vanguard weren't too concerned because Shin Malphur is their enforcer to deal with such fallen Guardians.
RAF1172 nope
RAF1172 If only... :(
Well I mean you're kind of right ish
You called it man, you called it.
XD Wow, I'm surprised how you actually predicted that.
Boom...
All of a sudden this is Relevant again. D2 Forsaken about to drop.🤘
"If there was a Weapon of Sorrow the Vanguard would've known about it."
Few years later
"Execute- Order 66."
Going to do a history of destiny video for a school project, and I've been greatly inspired by you byf! Wish me luck!
Put it on your channel. I want to see it when its done
Lord Starfy100 I second that!
ArcticPyro dew it!
You got this!! :)
Wish I could do that for my criminology courses.
On Titan I've noticed that Commander Sloan has asked for what we have on Dredgen Yor. Could that mean anything??
I want to retroactively point out that at 12:37 you called the Shadow's decision their "Gambit." Did THAT ever turn out to be a good choice of words.
After getting Malfeasance this totally makes sense! The Drifter being one of those Shadows and the Gunslinger killing his team. Also the rumor of the Last Word coming back in the next dlc.
@@stormysteph The malfeasance isn't one of the weapon of shadow's. Theres only two.
Itz Seffery three we know bad juju, thorn, necrocasm, malfeasance is an attempt to replicate a weapon of sorrow without drawbacks
@@nickcacciola6677 so is bad juju.
Dude, thank you so much for being such a humble dude that does so much charity work and is totally transparent on where your donations go to. Your videos are of exceptional quality and you’re a great member of the Destiny community. Keep it up, dude!
love this video, i very much enjoy learning about this aspect of Lore. thank you Byf
honestly i love your videos, they're awesome and cool to watch i wish this was turn into some kind of DLC but just hearing it its enough, keep up the good work
Really, REALLY love these lore videos Byf.
another awesome lore vid, this one has to be one of my favorites now
another great telling of the Lore ,always in to hear more of it,especially about the guardians that 1st fought...keep it up
As someone else commented, this is one of my fav stories in destiny. Great job as always, Byf. I would love to hear more about this group, the showdown between guardians of light and darkness, more last word, thorn, and first curse lore. Hell, you could talk about the history of paper clips and it would be riveting.
probably one of your best videos man.Great job
A much more dramatic reading than usual, I love it. Keep it coming, Byf! Also, love the Elder Scrolls font.
Man this is my favorite video by byf! Keep up the videos of the shadows
Great video as always mate, love these lore commentary’s. Especially anything directly related to the darkness or yor.
great stuff Byf.
The tale of Yor and Shin Malphur always puts me in mind if Roland in The Dark Tower though
I freaking love Dredgen Yor lore, nice video bro ^^
yes please do a video on Dregen Yor and his Disciples. I really enjoy your videos and use them to pass the time at work when we're dead.
As always amazing job on the lore
Awesome video!!! Would love more lore of the shadows.
Wicked awesome job as always!
The best lore videos I have seen for any game. And I am a lore lunatic. I watch it all from any source.
Probably one of my favorite videos so far Byf, I truly am excited for the possibilities The Shadows of Yor could provide to the depth of D2’s story. I think the questionable arrival of the Drifter and his embrace of the darkness is a beautiful foreshadowing of what’s to come for our guardians. Because again “Do you really know what side you’re on?” I think the possibility of embracing the darkness and making a choice that can actually effect our characters perception, power and story would be phenomenal!
you always put out great content
Damn, didn't know you had Nebezial provide some art for these lore videos. Been a fan of him since I started dabbling into digital paintings. Awesome stuff, been binging all these destiny lore videos.
gotta love stjephan sejic's art. nice one byf.
I cannot like this video enough!!! keep up the great work.
Sooooooo Good. Keep up the great work man.
Seriously, Dredgen Yor is one of the most interesting character's of the destiny lore. I love these explanations Byf. Keep up the good work.
yes, please more on this! this is my favorite part of the lore!
more on the shadow byf , man I look forward to these lore videos
Man I love your lore videos man. Whenever I have a question about destiny Iore I'm always like, "I wonder what Byf's take on this is". keep up the good work.
I love this Dark Souls/Bloodborne Lore videos style
What an amazing video. You are a master story teller
I want more now of this lore. I just got the thorn also so this will fit me well I love this lore and everything about it especially destiny lore love the video Byf keeps me interested and makes me more addicted to destiny
@MynameisByf that Dawn of War music got me right in the feels
Awesome lore video great job
Great Destiny Lore video, Byf! Your Destiny Lore videos keep getting better! Keep up the great work! I think that the powers that the Shadows of Yor possess will be beneficial in the fight against Gary and the Red Legion. The gambit that the Shadows of Yor took will be advantageous for the survival of the Traveler, Solar System, The Last City, and Humanity in Destiny 2! I hope that there will be more lore regarding the Shadows of Yor, Weapons of Sorrow, and the Darkness in Destiny 2!
Byfs narration in this was absolutely divine
That narration was beautiful.
I'm loving the lore keep it up
Would love more of these!
Love u Byf keep up the work
Dude yes please make more of these videos 👍🏼👍🏼
Dude this shit made me feel some way , I don't even know . the intriguing darkness. Your story telling voice... If that makes sense . just amazing man , bravo , bravo . And I'm a major Destiny fiend. Fascinated by this lore video fr fr
i love this man thank you for the info. its like Dredgen Yor existed in Destiny year 1 when facing thorn was hell and now we have the duplicates.
Ohhh I love this video!!! A new take on an age old question.
Destiny Lore: The Day Byf Uploaded Book of Sorrows: III...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LOL
this was a great video. I would most definitely like to know more.
Just found this video . Great video glad you mention that Dredgen was Rezyl . A lot of people still think he wasn't.
Would love to see more Rezzyl Azzir and Shadow theories. I think they are sacrificing themselves to have an upper hand in the fight against the darkness. ALSO would love to see Worm God lore about the connections between them and the Ahamkara! ^^ love the videos keep being awesome!
Not to insult prior content, but this is your best video yet imo. Succinctly versed and masterfully depicted.
Not too surprising given the content - the deepest and arguably greatest story told in the backdrop of Destiny - but impressive nonetheless.
Cheers!
Hell yes Hell yes Hell yes byf that was absolutely amazing keep them coming like this 👍 😈
Will you be continuing your Drifter series? I've been a long time watcher, and I LOVED the direction you've been going. It made me go back and rewatch these videos
I've been waiting for a Yor video. WOO!
Yor Lore
No , not my lore 😂
god's earthly form
Yor's.. not mine.
Excellent video, P.S thats my fav hunter cloak haven't switched to another since I got it.
Been waiting for the Shadows of Yor story for months now glad you did it it was my favorite piece of lore. Shin Malphur was 90% of the reason I stayed hunter in D1 (and what’s funny is it turned out I was pretty good with last word) Anyway great vid totally worth watching
So I found your videos upon doing research on Destiny 2s Titan sea monster. From there I've been watching them for the past 2hrs and I must say, you should look into voice acting. The way your narrate and the clarity you read the Grimoire cards with is simply amazing. This is now my go to for all things destiny lore related.
That's amazing that you got permission to use Stjephan Sejic's art for your video!!! I know that he is a fan of the content you make, as well as, a fellow Guardian.
byf you make an awesome audible book read.
Great Video!
Great video. Great Narration.
I want more this thorn lore is my favorite and so is anything to do with it and it's master
I like to think that the original idea spark of The Shadows of Yor is guardians who used Thorn in the crucible back in the day. Maybe if Thorn/Last Word never got as popular in crucible as it did so long ago, then maybe we never would have this story. So because of us, we helped build and fueled this specific destiny story.
My theory exactly
YOU HAVE THE PERFECT VOICE FOR LORE KEEP IT GOING!!!!!
I love your videos even though I do not have Destiny 2 yet . and I really love the art work .
i love yors story. it is the best lore ever and i want more byf. i hope d2 does something with dark powers. i want to channel the darkness
DAMN,first minute of the video and Byf goes all edgar allen poe on our asses lol
good vid byf
Congrats of 400k :D
Great video. Maybe the Shadows are the Guardians best hope in Destiny 2.
byf and Vaati should meet up!
Hook up*
more shadows stuff love it
Byf is there ever was to be a remake of the Soul Reaver series they need to hire you as a narrator. You'd be godly. By the way thanks for this video. Loved everything about it and the music made it much more epic.
Amazing video Byf! Hopefully great stories like this will continue in D2 without the grimiore.
Ya know, since lightfall I've been thinking, these derdgen guys might be on to something.
Thorn was my first exotic, and I've loved every bit of lore to ever come out around it
I love this topic! the brighter the flame, the darker the shadows.
Love to hear more
MORE! I need more!!
Please more I love destiny lore.
Really hope this doesn’t get completely forgotten in D2 :( great lore here
I always get excited when I see the name Yor.
More the shadows of lore! plz byflle
My Hunter has become enthralled with the mysteries of the hive, the magics of the ahamkara, and the power of siva.
More yor content please it is my fav lore in destiny
That artworks is so fucking good
I want the opportunity to play as a dark Guardian.
itsybitsyzombie I
Its possible. The new forsaken DLC lays heavily into the idea that the dark and light can be melded together and hard to distinguish what side you really play for.
Probably in Destiny 3 it will let you choose which side you're on.
Then Shin will just paint you on a wall with his golden gun
That’s the point of Gambit
I love your videos Byf, what are you looking forward to the most in D2?
MORE BYF! MORE!
Please more vids on this topic :)
Hey nice use of Dawn of War music at the begining
Are prints going to be produced of these art pieces? That of the Hunter, Thorn in hand is sublime, it would make an excellent poster.
Byf please do more on this group of guardians!! What was Shaxx doing about them? There's a lot still open that we don't know.. but alas such is Destiny haha
id love to hear more lore about dregen yor
Hey Byf. I noticed that there are two of the contraptions that are in the speakers room. One in the tower and one in the Iron Temple. The one in the iron temple is broken and run down but it is definitely the same thing. I thought it was interesting and just wanted to share that with you