Destiny 2: Curse of Osiris Lore - Story Details you might've missed from the first Bungie stream!
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- čas přidán 17. 11. 2017
- Bungie's latest stream for Destiny 2: Curse of Osiris revealed a lot of new story details for the expansion! The DLC will feature Osiris and his ghost Sagira and will feature heavily around the Vex on Mercury! This video goes over the lore and story details you might've missed from the stream!
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The real question is.....
WHERE CAN I GET OSIRIS' FIDGET CUBE?!?!?!
Darkness121 Target
A foob
Darkness121 I prey that someone will do a 3D print of it at some point.
I didn’t know I needed it until I saw this comment
just get 3 magnetic cubes and mess around with them.
So the Vex can finally predict me? Do they have the ability to laugh because I fall off cliffs a lot.
Wastingsometimehere Maybe, but they still won't be able to comprehend the sheer awesomeness of the Guardians' sick dance moves
I think the fact the he sounded so surprised when he said to sagira it can see your light meant that the many many times he's been in the infinite forest they where never able to see her until recently with the whole light explosion and now they can .
Osiris saw that after beating Atheon on hard he wouldn’t get a mythoclass
Forcer 🤣🤣🤣
Lol
Lmfao! He rage quit
And he threw Sagira back to orbit xD
God I miss that gun
I posted this on another vid, but I believe that Osiris didn't realize he walked into a simulation in the Infinite Forest. He probably believed he walked into the VoG in the middle of a raid, not knowing that the Vex can now see and simulate our Light. It's only when he opens the second portal when he sees something to make him question where he is. He then goes to investigate, when Sagira realizes the Minotaur moved. I think the Vex were playing possum, since they have total control of the Infinite Forest. When he realizes that they can see Sagira's light, that's also his realization of where he is, what the Vex have accomplished, and what he saw in that second portal.
Joe Angers i agree
This is another possibility. This or the Vex just leveled up and can now tap into the light source. Not thoroughly wield it as intended by the Traveller though, but at least they made some progress in this area like the Cabal and the Hive had done before them.
Joe Angers This actually seems very plausible
Agreed, we know the vex can manipulate time. To me it seems as though Osiris & Sigera believe it's an actual past event playing out, one of many which they've traveled through time to see some other event or possible parallel events. Also, it maybe just pure mischief...but for what reason would Sigera be taking the time to aim multiple vex weapons elsewhere if it was just a simulation.
Hey #mynameisbyf i thought you might like to know that what Osiris say when he “curse in a foreign language”
It’s actually Hebrew and he says “leazazel” which means in rough translation“what the hell” :)
In the worm haven pvp map gameplay there is a guardian using a shotgun with a Chicago saint symbol and Roman numeral 14 on it. Saint-14 exotic maybe
Yes. It also has the same color scheme as Helm of Saint 14. Metal with purple.
Probably
Byf, if it hadn't been for you hard work with lore videos I would never have picked up D2. Keep up the good work!
Love this video the only thing I have to say is that when you're talking about the Vex and being able to see the light, Osiris was very dramatic and in a questioning context, stating that the Vex could see Sagiras light not his. Segira was the one lit up. so it makes you wonder if something to do with the fact of robotics. I'm literally 2 hours away from finishing my video on the "Reveal Stream" too, so that's the only reason I'm in detail of it. P.s. I usually do "How to" videos, and this is the first time I've done an informational video. I got to say mad props to you Byf... It's taking so long and not nearly the same quality of yours. So much respect for your hard work man. Keep it up
Great video Byf, I'm learning a lot as I watch through your content and am enjoying Destiny on a whole new level as a result.
Good to see you back. Love your work!
Didnt one of the story people say the pulse of light was something the vex knew was coming and hoped it would. Thats what triggered this. Right?
Love you Byf! Thanks for all the amazing videos!
“Deal with it.”
Yeah man his super lasted all of 5 seconds I’m dealing with it.
Carlos Hernandez exactly
Pretty sure Supers in gameplay are limited for gameplays sake.
NPCs use nova bombs and FoHs within 7 seconds. Osiris can control the duration of his super probably.
SathonaBNS I think that's a good point, but why would he want to use it so briefly
Anthony Moua cause he was looking for cover :O idk rofl maybe the 8 story missions in CoO give info about what happend in there
Is it supposed to last longer or shorter?
Love all the Videos you make keep them coming Byf.
Was wondering if this would be coming or not. Wasn't sure if it was necessary after the previous two videos, but super glad you made it!
Love the video. I too would like to see more of the story team in streams too. It would be cool if they would let you do an interview with someone to clarify some more.
Took you long enough to make a video! Lol I glad you did
Excellent work, as always! Also, man I was surprised when Osiris started messing with that "fidget cube." They're in a few places on Io, but when I accidently shot one and realized they can actually be shot and destroyed I couldn't help but wonder if they might be more than just accents to the environment. I'm not saying we'll get to use them, just that it's cool they turned out to be relevant to the story.
Byf, i love Your Work man.
We must deal with the epicness of the DawnBlade, Byf has made it so haha!
But man I wish our Ghost would talk like us, like a few times, on the mini map, he senses a large tough foe he screams out "Behind us Guardain!" or "Look out to your Right, we have a big guy!" type thing
[Swears in Warlock]
Paragon of Honor lulz
It’s IMO that those cubes were keystones Osiris was using. The swearing also imo was a result of sequencing of those keystones he knew and was changed twice before Sageerah approaches offering help. Furthermore Osiris sent her back using another sequence he knew would lead to a time in which ghaul had been defeated and was in a time of ‘peace’ with the knowledge that he’s seen a timeline where Sageerah was with D2 guardians
1:17 just realized that's the Shadow Price, nice to know bungie throws in the little things like that
Looks like im going to comeback to your channel after the story missions. AGAIN!
You sure like using the Leviathan music track in your vids, huh Byf? (don't blame you, it's one of my faves haha)
Great video
Starting from 10:48 when the read light shows up the vex goblin looks up and nods as if to take an instruction to move to shoot sagira :)
The moment Sagira says "Wait... I thought I..." I believe it means that's the moment she finally feels her Light coming back.
I've just realised, just after he says to sagira "it can see your light" you see one goblin perk its head up and start moving to right, could that be a sign that the vex caught a glimpse in to seeing Osiris' next move and it being able to hit sagira?
Good point!
I felt so bad for you when I watched the stream and saw that 10 hours earlier you made a video with that title. i was like "oooooohhhhh that had to sting" lol
Hey Byf love your stuff i hope you read this cuz i think its an interesting question. maybe you have already tought about it or gotten suggestions about the idea but seeing as osiris has been traveling around in the vex system there is something that springs to mind even if he is traveling in the vex system should he not to have been effected by the traveler being sealed by ghaul during the red war and would that not make him lose his ability to hide from the vex whit in the vex system. If he was to lose his light at that point can this be an explanation for why he is able to use the new warlock sub class or did he trough out his travel in the vex system see a future were he learned to use dawn blade and is it possible that being inside the vex system that connects past and future that he was able to connect to the light trough a different time stream. Just spitballing here but if you have not had any ideas on this maybe you will read this and find some inspiration for explaining this in a future vid.
Ya boi Byf got his manly parts tingly when they mentioned story an lore.
You and @Houndish are the best Destiny CZcamsrs out there.
Byf, in the arecibo mission, in the third box room there is a scanable that says someone manipulated it to let exos control the vex network. Could you make a video about this.
You said that they may be simulating a past incursion within the vault but it should also be noted that the striker did his super and ran and in d1 VoG we could never run it was just a slam. Just a thought. Correct me if I’m wrong. Keep up the good work Byf!
That may just be a gameplay change, meaning that in the lore strikers could always run with super. Just like how in this cutscene Osiris using his super for all of 5 seconds and moves around in the air with it very strangely compared to how we can in game. It may all just be gameplay decisions that have no connection lore, after Destiny is a game first.
hope you get well soon
byf I have a question, whats the guy in the back shooting towards the beginning that is a lazer
I did miss some of those facts on the curse of Osiris but I was just trying to finish it though at that point
what if in the new raid lair, the leviathan has taken some of nessus for that royal nectar stuff and they have, in the process taken aboard a high ranking mind that has a link to the collective on mercury and we will have to fight them for calus. dont know how or if this will be a thing but i enjoy speculateing. pls reply, love your vids. keep up the good work :)
A little side note to help reinforce the basis of this video Byf, the scene where you see a Goblin start walking sideways along the stairway at 6:58 is in fact the Vex simulating the ghost's light, as it's able to predict that Osiris was going to throw the Ghost into that portal. Hence, this is why you saw that Goblin take a single pot shot at it. :)
Byf why on the exotic ship eriana’s vengeance is there an Osiris eye on the front?
Did anyone else notice his ghost was the only one to have a name? At least, as far as I know anyway.
Your ghost has a name, same as your guardian. You just need to make them up yourself. And every time someone says "Ghost" or "Guardian" pretend they're saying your names you created.
Mike B. Our guardians name that makes sense for, but I feel like the fact that Osiris's Ghosts name was mentioned specifically might mean something more for the future of our relationship with other Ghosts in the future. Also, wouldn't our ghost have his own name and not one we make up? I could be wrong about that, but it's just a thought.
Logan Abel Maybe in time he'll get a name. Until then, I call mine Sparky. You know, cause Little Light \_oo_/
That point when lore videos are way better than the game itself.
So, this isn't so much a theory but rather a connection I made. The Infinite Forest seems to be a CS Lewis reference. In the Narnia prequel The Magician's Nephew, the main characters have rings that transport the wearer to a strange forest. Being in the forst seems to have effects such as amnesia (although this subsides once you leave) and by using a different kind of ring travelers may use these pools or ponds to travel to worlds that are linked to the forest.
They did say on stream that the 'wave of light' from the Traveller is what triggered the gateway to the Infinite Forest to open on Mercury. So there's a strong case to be argued that the Vex can now simulate Guardians now that they understand what the Light is, as a result of such massive exposure to it. Which could be why Osiris is worried. Now that they can anticipate us, they can alter their plans and create a new Pattern that will negate the one advantage we've had against the Vex up to this point, our unpredicitablity, our immunity from cause/efffect.
Great video Byf, still sceptical about the dlc and if it can pull Bungie back from the brink?
Byf, why did the warlock gear from the vault, mention osiris?
One thing i'd love to see is a "Everything that we know on Dragons". Just a stockpile of all the knoledge we have today. The difference between the different types of dragons, the ahamkara, the hive wyrm gods, savathun's familiar, the bones, the armor pieces, the hunts, the pterodactyls on venus and all that. Since this is a subject that bungie probably won't be updating any time soon would be nice to have an in depth info dump ^^
I am curious as to what your thoughts are on that red "orb" or "eye" we see in the cut scene before Osiris throws Sagira. I don't believe we have seen anything like that. So I am curious what your take on what that might be is?
So with what we know about Osiris is searching for something and add in that one linr that was data mined of Ikora discussing a 4th element. Could radiolarian be a potential element we learn to harness.
Hey Byf you should do a video talking about whether or not Osiris lost his light during the Red War
I was wondering if Osiris being able to sense them honing in on Sigura had anything to do with him being part vex/having vex-bracers
One thing I noticed during the cutscene that I had hoped you'd talk about more in depth:
The moment the "entity" can "see Sagira's light", we see one Goblin move off to the side. Now that only has me concerned due to the one particular mission on Nessus where we access a bunch of vex data caches. They make a huge fuss over telling us how the vex CAN'T SIMULATE our light and how they REALLY like our Ghosts. (As we've seen with Asher's)
The thing is the Vex are a collective mind. I'm convinced that they 100% KNEW that Osiris was going to throw Sagira and moved over to get that shot that strikes her. Why it would still kind of stumps me, assuming they want to capture her, why would they essentially shoot her into the portal allowing her escape? That's only a sub-point though, the main thing is, for whatever reason, I'm convinced that the Vex knew he was going to throw her.
We can even see that Goblin looking at the entity before re-positioning. I'd like to hear your more focused thoughts on this if you get the chance.
Cheers.
Hello BYF I was wondering if you were still doing the raids on Xbox one? I know you were doing them before but I don't know if you stopped doing them or not. It was just that I'm just trying to get through the raid and I ever seem to find anyone who is doing the raid anymore. And I was hoping to ask if you are still doing the raids for Xbox One if you'd be able to help me out?
Anyone know the best way to find new people to play with? Really keen to do the raid but struggling to find a reliable fireteam, any advice would be greatly appreciated.
They probably can't simulate our guardian (hinted at in trailer) because we don't actually get out power from the traveler any more. So that wave of light from the traveler is not relatedly to the guardians light.
Anybody know what scout rifle that is in the background gameplay?
Will you be doing Guardian Radio again for Destiny 2??? Would like to here more opinions on how other ppl feel about D2
Hey Byf, You should have a look at Einstein's theory of space time; an understanding of this concept will greatly improve your theories on Osiris, Toland, and any other such subject pertaining to Nether Realms.
My only problem with the idea that Osiris and his ghost are in a simulation is that why are they able to be damaged/hurt by the vex within the simulation? Isn't it more likely that Osiris is actually travelling through the timelines? That would explain why all the guardians are wearing year 1 gear, why they are seemingly "frozen", and why he was so surprised when the Vex were able to react to his being there without disturbing the other guardians! The Vex are basically omnipresent, so it makes sense that even in our past they would be capable of receiving the ability to see our light after the events of Ghual from our future. I just don't see how even a Vex simulation could pose a physical threat to someone like Osiris, a simulation is after all an event that takes place in theory.
My understanding is that this was a trial simulation/replay of vog. Not any less scary though because it means they would at least be getting close.
I think it's important that Osiris say that the red orb can see Sagira's light, and also she tells him that he is welcome after he activates dawnblade. My first thought to this would be that Osiris has a limited or unnatural connection to the light.
Could you do a lure video on the 1st Hunter?
Wooooo notification squad! Sup Byf!
I thought it odd because I thought Osiris was saying " Sagira, they can't see your Light?" And Osiris had this realization just now to be very strange since Osiris knew the Vex cannot simulate the power of Guardians or Ghosts.
However having it clarified that Osiris notes the Vex are able to see and simulate Sagira's adds tremendous gravity to the situation like you mentioned Byf. However I'd like to point out they can't see Osiris's Light...only Sagira's. Which to me means that they are only starting to become capable of simulating the Light, but haven't finished their analysis just yet.
The dark timeline Osiris saw is likely a simulation or even a "reality in progress" of the projected results of their finished analysis. If the Vex can simulate and predict the paracasual powers of the Light from the Traveller or the abilities of the Darkness they'd have everything they'd need to finish their ultimate pattern.
That pattern is: No Light, No Gods, Nothing else but Vex.
I think the biggest detail was that Sigira's light was seen by the Vex, but Osiris's light was not. This implies two distinct possibilities; A) Although Guardians are paracausal, Ghosts are not and as such can be simulated. B) Osiris is able to mask his light, or he has no light. Seeing as how he used Dawnblade, he would have to draw that power from somewhere.
Sandrock323 Ghosts aren't Paracausal. They channel the light, not use it. They are merely robots that allow us to connect to the travellers light
Hey Byf, you playing on PC? Also anyone know what gun Osiris is using?
Cool,so I wasn't hearing or reading the wrong thing when I first saw Osiris dlc video...can't wait till the 5th....
Osiris's movements, in his super, might have been what manifested the idea of him "being in multiple places at once."
What if there's an equivalent to the vex that worships the light? It may seem far fetched but not impossible to implement, plus it may add depth to why they work so hard to be a law of the universe.
The Vex can most likely now 'see' Sagira's light is tied to both the wave of light/energy and Asher's transformation
Byf, there may be something about Osiris that is being missed even though it stares us in the face every time we look at his. There is a symbol on the front of his face mask that, to me, suggests the Warlock-class symbol but with two triangles instead of three. Could this be something of note?
Hope u feel better buddy
In one of the trailers, Ikora (I believe) said that we are the only thing the vex couldn't predict. Was she talking about us (the guardian character we play) or light in general, and can if the vex can now sense or simulate light, can they simulate out guardian now?
Byf, is there any evidence to suggest that the vex can simulate guardians (plural) but cannot simulate the player character guardian (singular)??
also what is that red thing that sees sagira light?
Also could you explain why we have a vex dlc but another cabal raid???
I still want to know if they used the characters/players that were world's first people who finished the raid.
Maybe the Vex can simulate the Light of Guardians thanks to Cayde when he was trapped on Nessus?
I love the way sagira helps the frozen guardians the way she can : >
I get the impression that the Vex still can’t actually simulate Light (its cause, how it is able to be utilized), but can simulate the effects Light has in the atmosphere and whatnot. This means that the Vex have to rely on previous encounters with Guardians in order to gather data on the Light, rather than simply calculate future variables and causalities, as they can do for the rest of reality (they can already simulate entire universes after all). This is why they can ‘simulate’ the Vault of Glass in this trailer. They are just using old data based solely on the Guardians abilities and their effects, not the Light itself, to attempt to understand the Light. If the Vex had been able to simulate the Light anywhere in the lore’s history, humanity would never have stood a chance against them.
What do you guys think?
Great vid, Byf, Love your content.
I have a question BYF if the vex can predict and then counter their enemies why did they have so much trouble with the cabal on Mars and then the Red Legion? If I'm not mistaken D1 mentioned that it seemed as tho the vex where in fact losing ground. How can that be if they have the power to simulate any and all outcomes concerning enemies besides us guardians?
Stephen Schlitt The simulations merely allow them to know how to defeat the enemy. They still have to fight hands on. The cabal are brawny AF and easily beat the vexes little bodies. The Gorgons and Oracles are the only vex capable of directly erasing things from time
There's an *extremely* simple explanation as to why Osiris has Dawnblade: It's not "new". The lore on the Arcstrider subclass states that they've been around since the Dark Age. They just weren't seen in Destiny 1 "because video game", as Byf likes to say. All of the Destiny 2 subclasses have been around *long before* the beginning of Destiny 1. We just hadn't encountered them in our early adventures.
Geth Infiltrator Thank you, I've pointed this out elsewhere (The Destiny subreddit) but it didn't seem to get much notice.
All of the new subclasses are evolved forms or atleast different extensions of the 2nd subclasses from D1. They are pretty much forgotten arts/techniques were not widely used for one reason or another in favor of Defender, Bladedancer, and Sunsinger.
Can't wait for Our ghost try to have a conversation with Sagira and have her giving us attitude^^
Completely unrelated to the topic but what is the scout rifle you’re using a 2:08
Song Of Justice. A New Monarchy Scout Rifle
Its either the Sentencer IV or the Song Of Justice VI
My name is Byf the gauntlets Osiris is wearing seem to be sunbreakers but are more of a white, vex milk color, kind of color. I'd like to know what you think on this topic.
Has anyone checked whether or not the armor sets match those worn by the world first team for VOG in Destiny 1?
can the vex simulate the other dark forces, like the hive or calus's potentially great power?
i really enjoy saegira already
Remember what Failsafe said about osiris, also she said when she was traped and onther person was also traped as well so that could mean we have to save him.
What scout is that at the beginning?
Hey byf, you do a terrific job fleshing out the deep,rich lore of destiny and by jove your voice even amplifies the awesomeness. Curious to know, do you have discussions with the writing and story team to go through the lore and in your opinion do you think they are well equipped with the knowledge of the destiny universe in terms of lore? I'm might come off a little patronizing pardon me, but I ask out of curiosity because the way the lore is implemented in the actual story so far is severely dry, unpolished and mediocre at best and my reason why I love your channel is you ingeniously craft such a grandiose narrative to this game's profound lore that you manage to capture even the most stoic and apathetic destiny players such as myself.
Bryan walter13 byf does it better
I just noticed that the scout rifle Osiris is wielding appears to be a MIDA design, which I find fitting. When you consider that it’s from an alternate timeline or reality.
Andrew Beehler It would've been more fitting if it showed them pounding the Templar with Gjallarhorn, or pushing it off the edge with Solar nades
I don't think they're simulating Guardians, nor that the "Vault of Glass" is a replay of a previous encounter with Guardians.
I think that this happens shortly after the start of the DLC. A team (such as ours) has found the entrance to the Infinite Forest and are looking for clues as to what happened to Osiris. In our initial incursion, we don't realize we miss him by a moment.
0:25 Striker titan had on skechers
Whats that Häkke scout he's using?
Do you have any lore on hunters?
Byf
Hello byf
I've been chatting on the destiny forums and a thought hit me about Osiris and his less then spectacular appearance in the dlc and wondered what your thoughts or if I've missed or forgotten something that kicks my idea out the window. Below is what I added to the forum chat which hopefully still makes sense.
Could it be that we have not even seen the real osiris? I can't quite remember since the story wasn't memorable but I don't think we actually ever see Osiris as our guardian and even in the cut scene he is inside the forest. Maybe he is so mediocre because that's the only parts of him that can be replicated in simulation. His powers, the radiance and even proper reproduction of his image (we only see the strange yellow light version) couldn't be reproduced because vex tech cannot simulate the light. But it's still the powerful guardian in some respect so the copied personalities were able to kind of break free from the programme to some extent, because Osiris even faked is a powerful and resourceful man. The real osiris is gone and that's why saint 14 is dead too. He knew his friend too well to be fooled by these images so he kept looking and fighting and trying to destroy the vex for their deceit maybe assuming they held his friend. Maybe a slither of the Osiris clones remembers saint 14 and that love for his brother infected the vex just enough for that shrine to be built and forgotten about, so saint 14 can finally get the rest he needed, he deserved and should have had.