Troubleshooting and Testing the B&W Continuum Hitch with Their Engineers
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Coming from a B&W employee, I want to thank you for allowing Tyler and Taylor to come out and work with you on the "kinks" you experienced. And also, many thanks for making this updated video.
I'm extremely proud to work for this company and it pleases me greatly when i see happy, satisfied customers using our products.
Again, thank you. Safe travels
That’s unheard of in today’s world that a company would go to that level to resolve an issue. Kudos guys! 👊
Thanks to B&W for addressing a concern the right way, and thank you to you for being willing to give it another shot. They produced something very different to the norm and growing pains were/are inevitable. Glad to see collaboration rather than entrenchment when those pain points present themselves. Look forward to your long term update.
Yes! I agree. Great company.
Just want to say thank you for these Continuum vids! We just bought a 37' tt toyhauler and the Continuum hitch for ease of adjustment due to the weight differences of the toys going to be hauled. We had the dealer install the hitch and they said they had not installed one yet. The 2 hr ride home was not fun. Sway was awful. After getting home I found the tires were at 55psi when they were supposed to be 80psi so that would be a part of the issue but I went to the mall parking lot and found a level spot and disconnected to go over the install of the Continuum. I found the ball was too low and not set 1-2 inches above the coupler so I moved it to the proper hole set. Once connected I did all the measurements to set the proper pressure to achieve correct restoration. Then took it for a ride on the highway and Wow! Before I could only do 50mph and then it got squirrelly and never got over 54mph. Now with correct air pressure in tires and the Continuum set up correctly I easily went right to 65mph and had to keep and eye on speed to not go faster. I only needed one hand lightly on the steering wheel and rode comfortably. And this hitch is AMAZING at how little the porpoising is.
Thank you again for these vids!
I’ve been watching your videos on hitches since last year and I bought one of these B&W hitches before you completed your first review videos for our 700 mile trip to Smoky Mountain National Park. I tow a 5000 pound single axle camper with a half ton F150 with the tow package. The biggest issue I faced with a regular hitch was trailer sway. I think being a single axle makes that worse. I will say that I had the same problem with the B&W all the way to about the Tennessee state line. Felt line the back of my truck was floating and the trailer was everywhere. I figured it was the stormy weather at first. After a while and several psi adjustments I figured it had to be a weight distribution issue. I found a CAT scale and weighed a couple times. The first time I went across with the calculations and psi that I come up with originally, had my front axle of my truck heavier than my rear axle. I started dumping psi until I found a good weight ratio based on axle weights. After testing, my truck handles the best with the hitch set to 900 to 1000 psi. I wish I would have mentioned this sooner, maybe it would have helped you and others out. That being said I really appreciate your videos and love my B&W.
Do you remember what your initial PSI setting was at based on the instructions that you followed? I'm just curious how big of a difference you wound up with.
Initially I was at 1250 psi. Wouldn’t think that would have made a big difference, but I think since my trailer was on the smaller side it made a bigger difference.
@@williamcook2716 1250 down to 900-1000 is a 20-28% change. That is a big difference. Knowing your actual axle weights for tow vehicle and trailer is the only way to get weight distribution adjusted properly.
Just wanted to throw it out there publicly for others, after reading the fb post, I reduced my psi this weekend. It wasn’t very windy (9mph gusts up to 17) and it was the best feeling tow I’ve had ever with this hitch. I was on side roads and jumped on the highway- I used to feel vehicles passing me in a big way and now I feel them a bit, but not constantly correcting every time a vehicle passes me. I would expect to feel them a bit with a 33’ camper. Excited to camp now!
Great to hear!!
That is how a company stands behind its product.
Agreed!
Very cool test you still have may to make a few adjustments big shout out to b@w for standing behind their product thanks Cory 👍
Good folks in Kansas.
I have this WD hitch and i love it. It is easy to install and use.
Appreciate your feedback!
Always!
Awesome job B&W now if lippert will get on board and fix their frame issues
Thanks for the the updated video! I was skeptical as I had purchased used this hitch the DAY before you posted the original video…I just came back from a 1600 mile round trip to Tennessee from NY….. on the way there i was a little floaty at 1750 psi… lowered my pressure by 250 psi over a few stops on my way and settled At 1000 psi ….. mind you it took some finagling because I am on a 10” lifted f250 with rear air bags…… but let me tell you it’s the smoothest most effective hitch I have used.. I just came from an Andersen and this is by far superior….. I’m thinking my truck just likes the tongue weight….and so quiet!
Did you receive a drop hitch being in a lifted truck? I have a 4in lift and I was considering getting this but I was hesitant as I don’t want to put more stress on truck suspension. I’m in process of getting airbags but wanted to get an opinion
Thank you for this video.
Of course!
Great follow up
After much deliberating between the B&W and Weigh-safe I just used the continuum hitch for first time on 800 mile trip, Idaho to Utah and back, interstates, highways and lots of steep up and downhill. 35ft trailer, 8800lbs with 1380 tongue wt, TV is 2500 Silverado duramax. Overall the continuum worked great, no noticable sway with wind, trucks passing etc. I do think setting up via the front axle load restoration method on a HD truck may be a bit of a crap shoot (at least it was for me). In my case the front end rise only about 3/8 inch. Problem is just bouncing the suspension you get at least an 1/8" of variation of the settling point. I did some careful measurements at the CAT scale and think that's a better way to do the setup. With no WD I had +1860 on the rear axle and -480 on the front. At 1500PSI on the hitch that increased the front by 280, decreased the rear by 420 and added 160 to the trailer axles. If I go higher PSI it does seem to get a little more squirrly but there's some much variation in road surfaces, wind, etc that it's hard to say for sure. As an engineer, I think B&W is correct in their FAQ about sway (www.bwtrailerhitches.com/product/weight-distribution-hitch). I think sway is controlled far more by weight distribution than friction in the hitch. It seems like it would take a LOT of friction to conteract sway forces on a 25' to 35' level arm.
A couple of things I've not seen mentioned that I see as advantages of the B&W are 1st, the pressure relief valve they have built into the hydralic pump. I've seen reports of people breaking thier trailers due to excessive forces caused by WD hitches when the trailer is above the plane of the TV wheels, like when backing up a steep incline or going through a deep waterway. The presure relief is a good insurance against creating frame bending pressures. 2nd, it's a simple twist of the valve to reduce pressure when you do have to navigate through very uneven terrrain. One downside I haven't seen mentioned is that's is kind of a pain to remove the composite sping assembly. I often move my trailer around town for service, storage, etc, and don't want to bother with the WD hitch and just tow on a standard ball. To do that safely you really need to pull on off the spring assembly. B&W also seems it indicate you might not want to leave the spring assemby sitting outside in the sun and weather of long periods of time so again removing it is more difficult than other designs.
My other option given my tongue weight was the weigh-safe heavy duty, which I'm sure would be great, but the 147 lbs of hitch to lug around just sounded too painful. Overall the simplicty of hook up, performance and relativly light weight, make this a good choice for me and so far is working well. Sorry for the long comment but hopefully might be helpful to someone.
I have been waiting on this video. I have 36 ft travel trailer 8lbs dry. I'm trying to decide between the b&w and the weighsafe middle weight
I had a small guide rail under my companion 5th wheel hitch snap a bolt I called their customer service to buy the bolt they sent me a couple bolts and a new rail plus they've helped me with parts on my gooseneck hitch when my truck was rear ended they're a great company and all I'll put in my pickup
i know its easy to adjust but its just to sensitive. Have to be strait, right angle, right pitch, i dont have time to get out every 15 miles and adjust the pressure. I will stick to bars on a preset that i put on and just drive,
Yeah I’m with you on that. I don’t expect a super smooth tow and after driving thousands of miles with my e2 hitch that was installed by the dealer 5 years ago, I haven’t touched it once and never had any inclination to do something different
Interesting. I have a 3/4 ton pulling a 34’ overall length trailer. I have a propride and for sway it’s rock solid but it’s long and heavy and porpoises quite a bit. My family is bouncing too much might be my truck’s stuff suspension but I need to try something different.
Try backing off each weight distribution adjustment one turn and see how the porpoising does.
I'm new to the RVing world and in the process of purchasing an Outdoor RV 250DBS travel trailer. With that mention enjoy watching your channel and how you provide an informative experience on RV products. Could you provide an update on your B&W Continuum WDS? Why, I'm leading on purchasing B&W Continuum WDS. Also, could you provide your issues with Weigh-Safe WDS? The dealer I'm working with says Weigh-Safe WDS quality is very poor and they had several breaks. The Weigh-Safe is the alternative WDS.
I’ve not had any issues with the Weigh Safe hitches. As it sits I prefer a Weigh Safe. That said I’ll be visiting B&W in early August. I’ll have more to see from them then.
Appreciate feedback
When I did the measurements during the original install, I had to flip the hitch so that the ball was one hole higher in order to achieve recommended load restoration %. Did not like the towing experience. Not whiteknuckling, but not relaxed either. Trailer moving, feeling semis pass me, etc. Tried everything - lower PSI, higher PSI. Nothing helped.
Then I dropped the ball down by one hole, back to where it came from the factory. And it changed everything. Running at around 1500 PSI also. My takeaway is that in order to keep the trailer more stable, I had to allow more weight on the tongue/hitch, and take some off the frontend. Which - I think? - is also what lowering the PSI does.
Granted, my f350 has aftermarket suspension with full progressive leaf springs, but also airbags. So maybe that changes to recommended load restoration %. But anyways, that’s been my experience.
Appreciate you sharing!
I also have a Grand Design XLS 23LDE and this hitch. When I first set it up, I did the measurements as per the instructions, and I was well over 2000 before the measurements lined up, and I was white knuckling it on the freeway at any speeds over 60. This weekend I lowered the PSI to around 1500 and I was cruising with no issues at 65. To make matters more complicated, my TV also has a full air suspension / auto leveling system, so I don't know how much that is messing with things, but I had it disabled per the instructions when I set the hitch and on my initial runs. I would really like to see B&W issue a completely new procedure for setting the PSI as honestly I have no idea what it should be at this point and I'm just guessing now. The engineers said in this video that your psi was too high, but did they show you the calculations or measurements which showed that you had made a mistake and that 1500 was in fact correct, or were they just trying something lower? My hitch was purchased in March, so I don't know whether I have the original hitch or the "improved" one referenced in this video. Thanks so much for this video!!! I have my very first "long" trip coming up in June and I am / was really dreading it based on my previous performance, but this weekend, and your video, gives me a lot of hope...
I set my PSI per instructions as well. Tyler did not elaborate how he decided on 1500. He simply mentioned it was from experience. I’m wondering if they should take another look as well.
@@WanderingWeekends Well I hope they follow up with you :)
I love my b&w hitch
This will be my next WDH. I appreciate all your Feedback and testing? My wife and i plan to upgrade to a slightly larger TT and using most other WDHs you may very well need new bars for the heavier tongue weight which can be difficult to find? The R3 i have how has too heavy bars and can’t find the right ones so I’m not wasting money on another. The hitch i have came with the trailer so i wouldn’t have bought one that had bars too heavy for my tongue weight.
I also have a Continuum and am trying to dial it in. What about if the psi is too low? What symptoms would B&W expect to see?
Ram 1500 4x4 Limited (air suspension) +
Grand Design Imagine XLS 23LDE
Great question. Hopefully B&W will chime in.
Great hitch my problem with it my driveway is steep I would be really scared of it rubbing other than that I like it
Cory, how would I choose between the WeighSafe Middleweight & the B&W? My incoming trailer is a single axle offroad trailer (6,700#s when fully loaded) behind my rather heavy F150 (6,660#s with just me in it) with an articulating hitch so I need some offroad capability and clearance, or the ability to disconnect the ED part of the hitch, rather quickly for offroad. Based on these parameters, which hitch would you consider the better fit for my needs? Also, longer arms further back on the trailer frame for transferring the weight sure seems like it would create less strain on the trailer frame rails. Thoughts?
Thank you.
Sorry guys, due to W.W. reviews I went with the Weigh Safe. i was 100% ggoing with you guys till I saw the bigger rigged towed like sh.. Just towed home my GD 2920BS with the WS and it was AWSOME.
Tough to beat the WS.
The b&w seems overly complicated to get right imo
Great information, thanks for putting this out there. How is that nee 7.3 treating you?
7.3 is great! The truck’s electronics are a concern. I have to find time to visit the dealer.
Please make a video with the issues and outcome after its taken care of
Will do!
Just a quick question, have they responded about the cold weather and hydraulics, thank you for doing these test
Did they talk about a longer B&W shank in development so we can open the tailgate? That's the only thing keeping me from purchasing one. I've been hearing about this for over a year now... Thanks.
They did mention that is coming!!
I appreciate B&W standing behind their product and the information straight from the engineers.
To me, this hitch is just a bit too complex in design. Easy to adjust is nice, but once I had my old hitch dialed in I never changed the settings. Only time I’m ever adjusting something is with a new truck or trailer, and how often is that? Having to be straight and level to get that pressure right every time you hitch up is just not practical.
Just my opinion.
Either I didn't hear it clearly, or it wasn't stated, but at the end of the video what was the measured tongue weight displayed on the prototype scale? Otherwise great content! I use a B&W stow-n-go (not WD) and great to see the level of interest the company has with their products after the sale. I recognize that "4-lane" test run - my son and his family live a few miles from there. Better not be doing 70 on there in the next county to the west LOL
Haha. The scale was reading 1045lbs I believe.
Yes, Hwy 78 is definitely a speed trap. It’s not bad on 316 though. 🤣
Curious if you could provide some insight here: I have a 24DBH TT and I pull it with a 01 F250 CC. Should I get a WS or a B&W. I like that I can turn sharper and ease of set up with the B&W, but the WS seems better at sway. Just had some concern about pressure on the “A” frame. Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Love the videos.
Would you recommend this if I said I have a 2500HD Silverado and my trailer is 22 feet at 5500 empty and 7500 fully loaded. Is this over kill for my set up? Thanks
Nobody talks about the stress you introduce to the frame with weight distribution. If you don't need weight distribution don't use it.
We have a 3100rd and are currently using the WS mid. How would this work with the larger TT?
If I complain to them about my truck not pulling good, will they give me a new truck??😂
I wish the guys would have explained how to setup their hitch in this video
I agree.
What do you mean by “dirty air”?
It’s a term used in motorsports and sailing really. Basically its turbulent air caused by vehicles in front of you (in sailing its turbulent air caused by the front sail or sails).
How do we get the new version?
If you order now you’ll receive the newer version.
Does it fit with an 8 inch frame ?
Not sure! Click the link in the description box. All of the specs should be there.
@@WanderingWeekends yeah. Their documentation seems to show 7 inch max. I’ll drop them a note. Thanks for the great video update.
So what do you think BW or middle weight WS?
I prefer the WS.
@@WanderingWeekendsI love my middle weight. Only wish I didn’t grab that rubber hood once in a while with tip of trailer coupling
Yep, it does that for sure. Hasn’t ever been a real issue but slightly annoying.
I would love to have one of these, but 2 things prevent me from getting one:
Price over double every other hitch and it won't work on ANY of my trailers!
Dang!
@WanderingWeekends maybe one day a hitch like this will come out that is compatible with triple tube tongues and v-nose trailers.
Just a quick question, have they responded about the cold weather and hydraulics, thank you for doing these test
Would like to try a continuum, but my cargo trailer has center tongue frame